5 Things Drummers Should Stop Overthinking! 🖐🏾😩
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- Опубліковано 15 чер 2024
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"Masters are masters because they remain students"
Love it Rob 👍
« Albanian unicorn wood » 😂😂
By far the best sounding wood for your drums!!!
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Also an excellent band name! 😆
The Albanian unicorn tree is officially extinct! Too many unicorn trees were logged.😭
Finest tone on ANY drum !! Albanian Unicorn ..... for the discerning drummer !
I’ve been drumming for 27 years. He’s right.
I will say exactly the same thing...Rob is right. Just keep playing and enjoying. Dont ever get discouraged bc you encounter a better drummer...just appreciate and use it as inspiration to teach yourself new skills.
Have fun!!! Playing drums is so much fun just keep playing ( no matter what “haters and so called “Experts “ are saying) Trust me they will Always think they know more than you.....
35 years here and totally agree.
Hi Rob, this is exactly the point. Sometimes we should do the same in our lives - don't think too much and don't take ourselves too seriously.
As an older cat this is one of the best drum tips videos for up and comers that I've seen on UA-cam.
@11:30 "JUST ENJOY THE PROCESS" - sage words from Rob Brown.
Nobody, and I mean NOBODY has ever accused me of thinking too hard before. So, thanks for that Rob.
Your so lucky maybe I should move else where, is haters in Orlando much coz I'm from the other side of the🌍planet✌️cheers that's the Coolest thing I've herd all day.
"When you hit 'em with a stick, they're going to sound like drums."
Rob, I think you just provided the BEST advice on the ENTIRE internet with that statement.
I am a guitarist primarily. I recently got back into drums after about 10 years of no playing at all. I’ve appreciated your videos. They’ve helped me stay inspired to jump behind the kit a bit every day.
Then you have come to the right place, with the right guy. Beatdown is the inspiration!
Excellent videos n advice we all need to follow..ty Rob
As a drummer who recently took up guitar. Thanks for the inspiration!
just dusted off the guitars during the pandemic in 2020, due to the loss of my best friend who played guitar. Two years on, and my whole family has been learning how to play drums together! We have healed through the power of making music as a family. Thank you for your incredible teaching and guidance on your channel!
Guitars are fun (I've played since I was a kid) but DRUMS RULE!!
Playing for 20 years, took a 8 year break. Now I feel like a kid again, loving the journey and those little victories. Just enough the moment. Great channel, discoved you a couple months ago. 🥁
you're in the right place!
No more breaks this time! In all seriousness I'm glad you picked up the sticks this time
James, I wholeheartedly Agree with you. You said it Right!! I'm 70 yo, retired, and "resumed" playing drums after 50 Years. I didn't play since our HD Buddies Garage Band disbanded in late 1969. Took initial lessons in 1966, maybe 6-8, and learned primarily By Ear with the Garage Band (which never got out of the garage). After disbanding, I lived in apartments with my parents, had nowhere to keep a drum kit (we called it Drum Sets in my day). So, after getting a Cheapo Gammon Kit form of all people , my wife of 45 years in 2019, I started to play again. I had to Shake Off a lot of Rust, but the basics came back pretty rapidly. I always played Air Drums. Now, I play about an hour each day to My Music : Petty, Beatles, Stones, Clapton, Mellencamp, CCR, Steve Winwood, some Motown, Rascals (Dino Danelli was my first Drum Hero {Ringo and Charlie Watts too} , The Animals, Hollies, Cars, Talking Heads, etc. I'll probably not be playing for other than Pure Enjoyment (hey you never know....a Geriatric Band could be in My Future , if the Arthritis doesn't finish me first), but find great pleasure getting to play successfully to any of these tunes , keeping proper time, and engaging with the Music. Playing gives Me a certain Satisfaction in Life. I tend to be a OCDish about many things, and I'm trying to Not let That Happen with playing Drums.... Rob's advice is well taken: Enjoy The Ride ..
I'm weak in English, but I understand you very well. I like your style, humor and life position. Watching your channel is really funny. You are great drummer and blogger. Thank you for your videos
Your English is good 😎👍☺️
Rob, you taught me how to tension my toms and kick instead of “tuning” and for the first time ever they ALWAYS sound fantastic ! Bless you, man ! 👍🏻
The one person who gave this a "thumbs down", is probably overthinking what Rob is saying.
RIGHT, lol
"The more fun you have with it, the more succes you're going to have" should be the best advice for any situation in life, thanks Rob.
Another thing many people stress out about is taking breaks/not having any motivation. I've had entire months without picking the sticks up once and honestly, sometimes that's just what I need to refresh my motivation and then pick up where I left and keep going. It's okay! It does not destroy any of your progress.
"The only thing that stops you from being a master is if you quit." Late but just had a gig I wasn't super proud of and really needed to hear this. Thanks my man.
Rob, I'm 67 yrs old been playing off and on since I was fourteen. There isn't one of those 5 things that I didn't over think along with hundreds of other things. Drove myself nuts and I still fall into the trap, there is always something else I will find to over think. The difference now is I realize I'm doing right away and pause for a few minutes and regroup and be patient .i will eventually be successful at what I'm trying to accomplish on the drums, even at my age, believe me when you get old you will over think that too. " am I to old to learn something new and challenging"Is my brain working to slow" "am I forgetting to much," are my hands and feet going to deteriorate soon." On and on. Nothing's really changed. When the student is ready the teacher will appear, just like you did Rob. Your the teacher I need now and because of that I'm playing at a higher level than I have ever played, all I had to is learn things I am still capable of. Rob your teaching me 90% of the complicated methods is a waste of time for guys like me and I'm getting a little short in that department. If it's to much trouble it ain't no fun. Being enlightened just means lighten up. KISS. That's what works for me
Thanks, man - I'm trying to stay focused on being "musical" - and playing WITH and TO something - (drums as a solo instrument really don't do it for anyone for any significant amount of time)
In my humble opinion, you are clearly one of the best drum teachers on UA-cam. I always get value from everything that you post, and I've been playing drums for almost 60 years. Thank you, Rob Brown!
Man, I kinda needed to hear this. I especially like the point about wood types. I have what I consider a mid level Yamaha Stage Custom Advantage kit. Having to share my kit on tour, I've had so many compliments on how good they sound by guys that had way better quality kits. It's all in the tuning and heads! However, the one thing that Rob said that really brought it home is that drumming is a lifelong thing. I've been playing drums "off and on" for over 40 years. I learn stuff everyday from all levels of drummers. One game changer I learned recently is fulcrumming with your middle finger. I was always taught to fulcrum with my index finger! Using my middle finger as the fulcrum seems to give me more control and power. It was an eye opener! Anyway, thanks Rob for putting this out there. The best quote ever is "Masters stay masters because they're always students". I'm not sure I'll ever master drumming but I'm definitely a lifelong student
"Enjoy the process of learning" Profound statement. I finally jumped in and started recording my own stuff, drums and guitar, had no clue what I was doing, did exactly as this man says, enjoyed the little victories and enjoyed the process. Still learning and having a lot of fun doing it. I can honestly say I've never enjoyed anything more in my life than learning music and creating my own. Your doing God's work here Mr. Rob Brown. I appreciate you.
Everything Just have to be Fun. Without Fun you can quit It. You said It. The best teacher ever.
Basically, just play the drums, man! I wholeheartedly agree! I've only been playing for about a year and a half, but I can't help but smile every time I sit down at the kit. Wish I'd started years ago. 🤟😎🥁
My number 1 teacher ❤️ thank you for what you're doing Rob, I'm better drummer because you're my inspiration and I learn a lot from your lessons🥰
Yes! This right there! ☝️☝️☝️
Rob Brown is my best drum teacher of all time!
Amen to all of this!
It's like a vindication of the stuff I've dismissed throughout my life. When drummers get all focused on certain technical aspects, and I'm like "man, I've had my kit recorded so many different ways, you'll hear two different versions and swear it's not the same kit".
Once the kit is tuned, mic'd up, run through an EQ, all done by studio engineers, the wood type of your toms isn't going to have THAT much to do with the sound.
Rob reminds me so much of my first (1 of 2) drum teachers, and he used a 2 mic setup, one overhead, one kick. And he ended up playing with some pretty big projects (RIP).
Thanks for this great, great video!
This video should be posted in every social media drum group! The amount of time I see people debating about these topics that’s time they could be using to practice to get better! I love the part about wood it’s drives me nuts!!!
How!? How it is possible to make every single video so helpful, relatively short and interesting at the same time!? Magic...
You're so on point about shell material and all that. I see drummers online talking and arguing about shell material and drum brands and I find it so absurd. Drums are so simple and I never ever tell apart two drum brands if blindfolded. And I'm sure as hell when people listen to songs they will not be able to say if it's Tama or DW, or if it's birch or maple. Because they all sound the same. The heads, drum sizes, tuning, the room the drum is in, microphones, production, mixing and the player make all the difference when it comes to drum sound, And you can achieve any sound with any drums by working with those things.
A +20yr break, was overthinking everything, Cymbal type to how I was sitting on the throne.. Let it all go during this Pandemic... Made a 180 move away from overthinking/stressing in life period. I also stopped listening to music I know/knew. from when playing Tom Sawyer or fool in the rain to Watching you bye Slave, stroke for stroke meant you were a good drummer. Since the 1st lesson in 4th grade, all I've been doing is playing other people's work. I didn't learn to create. Now, I feel free to create.. Amazing what happens when we stop overthinking so much..
100% Amen to that, this is so true. I few years ago I realized myself that I always practiced replicating others rather than finding my own sound. It’s hard to explain but once I stopped overthinking and made it a goal to improvise, it’s turned my drumming around 180.
The piece of advice that really stuck with me, was when my instructor said "Don't think about it, just do it." That mindset has been the key to most of my progression in drums and is still helping me learn to this day!
Totally. One thing helped me.. Learn other instruments, even better, write songs! After all, drums are one aspect of songs, and you'll really get a handle on where your drum style fits, and stop the dreaded over thinking. Love and respect!
I needed to hear that. I'm a beginner and I've been playing for over a year now, and I overthink when it comes to practice time and what to practice.
My thoughts exactly. It's not the drum. It's the person behind the set. It comes from the heart.
As a GenXer I appreciate your approach. I watch channels and read reddit drum posts and the angst underlying them is so intense and regimented it gives me panic attacks. It's insane the over thinking out there now with the "you gotta do this for 2.76532 minutes then you gotta do that for 3.675444321897 minutes or you're wasting time!!!!"
Good God if that was around when I was learning I'd have quit years ago. People have got to chill out and just enjoy playing.
You're a voice of sanity in a world of anal retention.
yes Rob ! you are right just be yourself when playing your kit. I have been also been playing for over 50 years and everyone has there own style and the big thing I found do not try to copy other drummers and play.everyone has their own way of doing and playing. Learning everyday!
Some people like to make things seem complicated as a way to get people to turn over their money to learn “the secrets.” I appreciate the way you keep it simple and how you debunk the myths. You free people to create and to progress. (Don’t blush.) And the use of echo in this video was hilarious!
I've been playing for 5 years. I definitely needed to hear your fifth point today.
Thats what i like about your channel rob , no bullshit , been playing for 30 years , worked at steves music in mtl, and youre spot on , all the time. Great stuff man.
All you say man is right don't over think just remember have fun playing drums because for me playing drums is fun
A teacher once told me something that always stuck with me. He said, "If you start thinking you start stinking". Ok he was a golf instructor but it work here too.
Rob, I’m a DW guy, I have a DW collectors kit and a top of the line PDP kit, they both sound incredible and of course I’d choose my collectors kit for most situations, HOWEVER once you have the correct heads on the PDP kit it doesn’t sound much different than the 8k collectors kit, actually in some situations as outdoor gigs the PDP kit sounds better. I’ve never been into the whole tune your drums to pitch of the shell concept, I’ve always tuned to what my ears tell me, these turning gadgets will drive you crazy and take time away from your practice schedule. Hopefully younger drummers take to heart everything you’ve mentioned, every point you’ve mentioned is spot on! Great video brother!
I think something to add to the progress point would be to not overthink learning a new song or skill. When I started drumming it was mainly when I was younger and couldn’t afford a kit. I didn’t play alot after high school and just started playing again because I could finally afford a kit.
When I started playing alot (10 years later!) I would get discouraged because I couldn’t play a Rush song I’d heard a million times or i couldn’t do that fill in another song. I couldn’t play that exercise perfectly on the pad right away. Then I had a long conversation with my significant other. She told me something pretty amazing. Why does it matter if you can’t play it right away? It’s a hobby enjoy it. And I did. For most of us, we aren’t drumming professionally so there should honestly be no pressure.
I recently got Steve Gadd’s new book Gaddiments and am loving it. I’ve had it for a few months and am barely on page 4 but I’m getting through it slowly. Overall though I’m enjoying every second of it. That’s what matters. Thanks for the inspiration Rob! 👊
Thanks. Rudiments( Single, double, paradiddle, flam, multistroke, change left and right). Playing exacty like sheet music or the record. Basics of reading/notation are simple: each hit is a dot for a drum or cross for a cymbal.
Shit like this is why Beatdown is basically the best drum teacher EVER!
Yes!!! These are solid and invaluable truths. Masters stay master by being students. Deep thoughts.
one of the best videos I've seen on youtube regarding drumming and maybe something that should be on the short list of videos for newcomers. The amount of time I wasted trying to perfect tuning was WEEKS long. The amount of time I wasted trying to find the right "second kit" also weeks. Trying to find the perfect practice regiment, worrying about small things that just bogged me down instead of trying to have fun...just a ton of truth in this video. Thanks for making it, wish I had seen something like this a few years ago hahaha.
Ooo wow! I have been playing drums in 48 years and you just said what i have been thinking for many years.
Thank's!🙂
Dude! I struggled for years trying to tune my drums to my liking. Every time I spent more time then I wanted to and ended up with a less than desirable tune. UNTIL I watched your three videos! I kind of shrugged at first but thought OK, I just got a new kit and need to put the heads on anyway, what the heck! Well, I am here to say, I HAVE MAXIMUM THUMPIFICATION! Lol … seriously, it took me no time to tune and I loved the resulting sound! Now, I look forward to all my Beatdown videos! Thank you sir for simplifying drumming! I doesn’t need to be that complex! 🤘🏻
This is part of many reasons why you're among my favorite drummers of all time. Many thanks, Rob!
"Masters stay masters because they are always a student" Words of wisdom thank you for that. Learning never ends
i respect you bro so much, i really want to get into drums, im 27 years old, and i feel like i achieved nothing in life. I feel this primal desire to become a good drummer, and vibe and listen and learn and separate drums in every song i listen to, whether its electronic or not. I want to become good enough to feel happy from myself. Thank you for these videos, they help clear your mind from the fog that surrounds people with these type of desires. i need to keep improving
Have FUN!!!!! Don’t quit! The best advice ever !
I completely agree with what Rob says.
Especially the part about progress.
Hi there mr Brown, i still remember at one of the best advices i got from all the videos i've watched (on youtube) in the last 3 years since i got my drums was about How and What to Practice for diferent people, for me it was practicing anything other than music on the Pad watching TV, on the drums practice my songs, It worked for me. And now i feel much better knowing that took you 3 years to start practicing stuff. Teen Spirit, Black Hole Sun , Song 2 and now Dont you forget About Me, each song with diferent styles, speeds, small chalenges that made me realise that practicing was really necessary, 3 years lates i started to give my self to practicing while watching Netflyx and such. Thank you so much Mr Brown.
120% agree with You, Man! I play the drums for the last 25 years, I studied classical and jazz drums too.
I played a pretty cheap standard Pearl Mirror Chrome snare with a 20" Gretsch Catalina shellset, and once I purchased a fancy DW snare for my first big festival mainstage gig. It sounded the f*cking same! I sold that DW snare one day later :) LOL
I ended up with a Pearl Midtown shellset with a Carl Palmer signature Ludwig piccolo snare, and I am happy. I think its more important to practice and SERVE the songs what I play. And having fun of course, because music is fun. Always :)
Respect Mr. Rob!
Ahh man, it took to my 40's to really enjoy practicing. Now I can't get enough time on those things! I'd go all day if I could. First 25 years I played strictly metal. Now I play funk and soul, and I love it. It all comes with repetition and time. Enjoy the ride!
Amen to all of that, especially the tuning. For anyone who hasn't seen them i would thoroughly recommend watching the Beatdown tuning method videos and spending a little extra on getting some decent heads for your toms (Evans for me, all day, every day...). I'm still playing my "starter" kit and honestly see no reason to upgrade. Snare is a different matter, but even then all you have to ask is "does this sound how I want it to sound?". And when you find the one, you just know 😁
Great video Rob. It’s not the destination, it’s the journey.
I agree with all these points. I think the lighting in your room is a bit dark
I, like Rob, started many moons ago by cranking my stereo as loud as possible finding a radio station and started playing along with whatever came on. It worked, but I really made giant leaps when I started playing with other musicians.
The single most important thing that Rob imparts here, in my opinion, is
HAVE FUN!!!!!
Ive been fooling around with guitar in my spare time and getting extremely frustrated, then the other day someone said to me
“Just ENJOY PLAYING YOUR GUITAR!!!”
The most humbling beat down Ive ever gotten, it changed my guitar playing literally overnight.
Our prime objective as musicians is to have fun and make sure people are having fun watching us.
The overriding theme that Rob states in all 5 of these, and its my biggest problem, is
STOP OVERTHINKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I appreciate that Rob talks about the psychological side of becoming a better drummer, and not just the physical/technique side.
That was the great video -you answered some of my questions, but most important time playing- im almost 4 years in. I love it because i have so much to learn
Let me summarize. Get started. Get started. Get started. Progress, knowledge, and skill will follow.
I'm so guilty of overthinking the Moeller method and practicing with Vic Firth Magnum sticks ( heavy sticks) in a continued effort to strengthen my weak hand and improve my playing in general and I'm grateful for your perspective on drumming because your lessons have helped me improve so, thank you Rob :)
“Just enjoy the process. . .”
Well said, Rob. Thanks for your words of encouragement!
Thanks a lot for saying what had to be said.
I’m sure I’m guilty of over thinking at least half of these things.
WOOD TYPE: Thank you for that tip! I do think we buy too much into "the warmth of X material" and "the projection of XX material." There are subtle differences, but most of us are playing in bars and small clubs, it's not noticeable. I still remember a guy years ago in a band we opened for using a old Tama Swingstar, that he tuned just right. It also helped that he was really good drummer and it sounded good.
Love it. Dead on. Agree on all points. Been playing drums since 1997. Drums is a lifetime endeavor. Enjoy the ride.
Very informative, and so refreshing to watch a video that encourages simplification rather than over complication. Honestly, the 5th point had me let out a sigh of relief, "masters stay masters, because they're always students". Staying in love with the process is by far the most important aspect in the pursuit of mastering the un-masterable, an instrument, (in my opinion), thanks for this video!
I've been drumming for a long time and been watching drum videos for a long time. This is one of the most important drum videos I've ever watched. Period.
I love this video, I don't see how this video will make any drummer angry, everything you said is accurately on point.
Thank you, Thank you, Rob Brown. I have not ever overthought those matters. I have known many drummers who do.
Needed to hear this Rob. Appreciate ya 🤘
I take your word for it... not just because you're a pretty cool guy just quietly... but you can play, and you can prove these concepts time and time again in your videos by playing them yourself
Love your channel Rob. Thanks for the tips.
I love the way you think BEATDOWN that hole mic section in this vid was so honest and beautiful you have my respect.. all my practice pad exercises are from BEATDOWN vids....I agree with everything you said in this vid!!!!
Great vid man, totally agree.
“We’ve added 2 1/2 plies of Albanian unicorn wood”🤣🤣🤣
I’m looking at you, DW……
Great video as always Rob!
Thanks for all you do
Wow. I am fairly new to this channel. Rob has such a great attitude and delivery when it comes to his videos on drumming and the whole thing about learning the drums and the many things that surround drumming. I have gigged many times. I think I have the knack for drumming and yet, I can only say that I am pretty much an average drummer, and I just turned 60 years old. I have played since the age of 15. Now I watch this beatdown Rob fella and I am pretty excited to work on improving my drumming skills based on his tips, and so far I am having fun doing that. Rob is Canadian too. That seemed to be important to me, and when I confirmed that, I was really happy about that. We can be proud about this Canadian fella, Drumming wise and personality wise. Wonderful!
Thank you very much really needed this!
Always solid content Rob - much appreciated!!
Excellent video, Rob! I really appreciate everything you do for us.
I always enjoy and feel encouraged watching your tutorials and your hoodie is fab!!
Beat down is the man! My drums sound amazing thanks to you. Thanks so much! I was totally overthinking it for years!
Great video rob, thank you you so much
Love that you simplify everything, much appreciated Sir.
I’ve always had the same thought the same thing about the kind of wood drums use. It’s really all about the heads
Good stuff. Will check out the tuning videos.
You are the man!! Thank you for everything!!
Love your content Rob! My fav drum channel on youtube!
I completely agree Rob, dig this. I teach as well and the one I'd like to add is theory/notation. I've had "the talk" with most everyone on how it's not the most complex if you don't over think it.
That’s a pretty good one to bring up. My teacher had me go through a couple books, but he would sit down and show me how to read those two exercises or whatever it was for that week. But, he would always say not to worry about this stuff too much, just focus on playing it well.
Awesome!! Keeping it real. Love the beard too!
Thank you so much Rob! 💛💛💛
Very well said, Rob. Good job.
Once again you are spot on !
Great video Rob!! BTW, that beat on your intro always gets me hyped.
Great advice thanks!
This is what I needed rob thankyou so much your absolutely right
Totally spot on Rob! Great advice.