Very good analysis, a lot of people getting started will save a lot of time by watching and listening to a very good instructor! You have had great teachers, and it shows in your work! Thanks to all the folks who share their knowledge with others! Stay safe out there my friend!👍👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏🙏🙏🙏
Thanks for the kind words. You are correct in the fact that I had good teachers! I wouldn't be where I am without several good teachers sharing what they know. I have this channel simply to help others.
While I've been taught to dress my bar and keep the chain sharp and tightened properly, nobody ever explained these kinds of failures could happen. Many thanks - will pass this information forward to my friends! Cheers from Sweden!
@@tinmanssaws Nice Video! In my opinion it's not the heat, that kills the bearing. The main cause is the chain tension. The heat supports the aging of the shaft seal, but it doesn't influence the bearing. ( try to think of a bearing in a glowing turbocharger) . The high tension on the chain means a heavy load in only one direction. i guess the needle bearing of the sprocket was also in a bad condition?
@@allroundgenie1987 can you coke the bearings in a chain saw? You sure can in a turbocharger. Think of the operation of each, one is lubed with 50/1, and the other straight oil. Lots of differences.
Good video. Learned a ton. Keep the chain sharp, run proper fuel mixture with good oil, make sure bar is going oiled properly, clean the filter, and properly tension the chain. If you follow those general rules the saw should last decades unless there is a known defect.
Excellent video for us newbies at working on saws! Love the failure analysis. New Sub from over at Buckin Billy and will definitely be watching your content as well
Exactly. You described what my new MS391 did. Was not oiling properly, got the bar hot, got the clutch hot, got the lower end hot, and then boom. Stihl rebuilt it for me but, the saw just did not like milling...oiler insufficient. Stihl bars seem not to oil very well and matched up with a stingy oil pump, not a good match.
Great analysis, I agree PTO side bearing failure should be no more than the mag side. I can't stress enough the importance of running a sharp and properly adjusted chain. Also just my opinion is another reason these bearings fail is a lack of oil which as you know not only lubricates but also helps to cool again this is just my opion. Great Video My Friend
I should of showed the exhaust port. Ill bet money I know which oil they were running.. The lack of oil in the bottom end is apparent, something I forgot to metion in the video. The muffler was full of oil though which was strange. Oh well I'll order stihl bearings and gaskets and get the bottom end sorted out..
100% awesome illustration/ conclusion of the Small Problems become Big Issues! Thank you for explaining the process... Eye opener/ Mind Blowing Conclusion!
This is another outstanding video! I would not have noticed that wear line on the piston skirts. If I'm honest, I would have likely overlooked that glaring evidence of the bar having been overheated. NICE!
I buy blown up saws to study them. You can learn so much about how a saw lived and died by studying it after its blown up.. I've gained so much knowledge by starting with blown up saws that i dont think id be where i am if i started with good runners..
@@tinmanssaws this video well demonstrates that. Where do you get your blown up saws? I live in northern NV, so there is not am abundance of them locally.
@@SonOfLiberty1984 I buy them all over. Some i get locally, some are from far away etc etc.. Just gotta look around and let people know you are looking for saws and soon enough you'll have a shop full of them.
Wow! The things you learn the hard way! I'm glad I saw this before ruining another saw. After all these years... I wish I had back all the saws I scrapped. Excellent analysis! I've come away with a greater understanding of saws. I can now treat my new saw with some care and diligence, while using my old saw as practice for rebuilding and porting. Your videos are like going to saw school. Thanks, Tinman!
Spot On tin man Spot On. My dad was a logger and boy his pet peave before passing this year was your explanation. Luv you channel. I’ll pass this info to my son. Keep it up.
You were explaining how a crank seal and or bearing can fail which you are correct , i would like to add that sometimes when a saw gets pinched in the cut it can pull on the chain which pulls on the crank putting pressure on the crank bearings and you can hear the rpms drop so if you don't turn the saw off right away that pressure wears on the bearings burning them out.
When the Husky Xtorq's first came out, I bought a 372xp. I got an afternoon out of the bearings. In my case it was shitty bearings and they gave me another new saw and I haven't had any issues.
Thanks again Tinman. I am close to having watched all your vids now. Instructional and entertaining. I envy those who are yet to have seen em....lucky buggers!
Great videos, I enjoy them, I've got a few saws been sawing for 20 years after watching your videos I've been tuning a chinease timberpro, it's a husky replica 58cc I've ported it deleted the base gasket shaped a ram stack between the carb and air cleaner, and now I built an expansion chamber using the original muffler it took a bit of work my first attempt gave good power at extremely low rpm and weak at top end so I re worked it now I have great power throughout and the end of the exhaust is dry so no fuel is waisted, the saw originally had 3.5 hp and now it feels like my sthil ms362c which has 4.8 hp, great inspiration from your videos. 👍
In stihl manual it tells you to slack the chain after use if you have retensioned it at operating temp. As the chain cools it gets even tighter and can damage the crankshaft and bearings.
I watch Buckin and the Ironhorse. They both have mentioned you. You have a great channel. I have the MS460, the 461's older version. Its an animal. I did a dual port and had it tuned, what a difference!. You will like that 461 alot for anything you throw at it. Like the content and the explanation you gave! Keep the videos coming.
Hey Tinman. Thanks for these videos, I learn a ton from your channel. I Recently picked up a low hour 461 manufactured in 2020. I can tell the clutch got very hot previously. The clutch drum and the clutch itself have bluing and darkening. I couldn't get the e-clip off (ended up breaking it with pliers) but the rest of the components came off no problem. The saw runs fine. The piston looks good aside from a little wear at the bottom of the skirt on the intake side. How much of a concern is this past overheating if it didn't blow up the saw? Aside from the discoloration on the clutch drum / clutch, there are no obvious signs that it happened. Does this have implications for the life of the saw? What else should I be checking based on the condition of the clutch?
nice video man and a lot of people forget to double the oil on first tank on new saws witch my opinion is important that's what I learned in school. but total agree with keeping chain sharp let chain do the work no need to be pushing light or hard on pto side my thoughts.
This is great advice but allow to add to keeping chain sharp and not too tight. Always check and refill the chain oil. I almost burned mine because I assumed the oil was still enough but then the chain locked and I didn't know how I was running it on empty oil. Scary stuff. Could have been an expensive fix
I got given a 461 that was found in the middle of the road(it fell off its ride to the dump). Being run over by a large excavator caused its failure, all I could salvage were piston, oiler, coil and a a couple other small parts.
@@tinmanssaws Oh ya! The young lady that was running the excavator saw her chainsaw fall out the door, but the mountainside was so steep she couldn't stop! It don't matter if it's Stihl, husky, or whatever, they all fare about the same when you run them over.
I work for local government we can’t get aftermarket parts and the manufacturers price their parts to expensive to repair so we usually just wind up tossing them into the dumpster for salvage. You wouldn’t believe the stuff we throw out. Sometimes the tech’s make out. On that deal.
Looks as though you made a good purchase. I'd guess the chain was too tight half of the time and from the look of the bar just above the adjuster hole to the top there was plenty of slop once the chain was good and hot! I'm thinking the bluing on the clutch facing and drum are from nearly stalling the chain in the kerf. It's amazing how many folks will dog in and only pull about half the ideal rpm due to the load they're putting on the chain, dull or not! There is a happy balance to be achieved. I love seeing a saw walk through a log at an optimum rpm and sling'n chips... The desired Happy Balance! Bless'ns to ya, Tedd
Awesome video! Thank you so much for explaining the “why” behind all the rules I was taught as an early sawyer. I will be sharing this with any new sawyers I train! Just curious, how/what are the physics to a saw running more lean when it gets hot? Does it induce pre-ignition or something (Which maybe would explain the piston slapping around in the cylinder like it did???), and then too much oil is burned up running the RPM’s up and not enough unburned oil left to lubricate?
is it possible that all the problems started because of the missing clutch spring? Noticed the discoloration is mostly on the part of the clutch with no spring
We used to run them 461s 460s and 462s cut and timber in West Virginia. They run they run OK but I’d rather have a 372 or bigger husky. They run a whole lot better than any of the 460s.
I picked up a 350 several years ago that had been rebuilt but the case was melted where the pto bearing sits, so it leaked and I had to get a new case. It was run hard, dull, and dry.
hi, does the chain not stop with this damage even when idling and the engine dies when I engage the chain brake? the clutch bell has already been renewed, unfortunately without success. it is also an 461 thank you
Excellent failure analysis. There is a lot of different opinions on over-tight chains. So what is the Tinman’s recommendation on the right amount tightness? Thanks for the great information.
also if the chain was hot when put away it will shrink when cool and will also bend crank and destroy bearings on that side as i was told please correct me if wrong
@@tinmanssawssomeone told me it would happen to a correctly tensioned chain if it was done while hot then allowed to cool ( couldn't see that as it normally only takes about 5 mins to cool) does the heat of the bar have anything to do with the chain tension ?
Mr. Tinman, my nephew has an older Stihl 048 AV Electronic saw. 1 day it quit running on him so he brought it over to me to fix. I did some mucking about and came to the determination that the coil was bad, I got to asking around to my local saw shops for a coil. they weren't much help. so off to E-Bay for a few questions and got a newer style coil. I also pulled the flywheel and checked to make sure that everything was clean and that's when I discovered the electronic ignition module under the flywheel. I do not know how to test that to see if its good or not. I did an OHM test on both the new and old coil and got the same results. Can you perhaps shed some light on my issue. Thanks for your time
Hey so not sure if you will see this? Seeing it’s an older video I don’t no anyway tinman man I just snagged another 461 and I am gonna follow these ones you posted . So yeah here’s to not blowing it up!!!
That’s a $1200.00 usd saw. What kinda nitwit does that to a piece of equipment? Probably the same kinda guy that whips a rented mule until it collapsed. Great buy for you!
When you figure of the cost of the chain saw into the hourly wages, things get real expensive. Mechanical training needs to be more than a 30min. lesson ‼️
You have the state working probably young kids that don’t really want to be there probably and they run a dual chain with a chainsaw wide open and ride the clutch trying to get it to cut trees is the reason why that all is probably tore up as bad as it is if you’d give that to somebody that knew how to run a chainsaw that chainsaw would run for 25 years or longer
pardon, any clue where to get an ms271 top end? easy to find the piston but not the cylinder :(... supposedly is a 44.7mm for the ms271, would it be possible to use a ms270 top end which supposedly is a 47mm?
That looks like a newer saw ... I'm commenting at very beginning... shouldn't be having failure already...??? Ha ha I should've waited... government equipment gets abused
I've learned more in the last 26 minutes from this guy than I have in 50 years? I've always had questions as to problems with my saws ? Thanks Tinman.
Very good analysis, a lot of people getting started will save a lot of time by watching and listening to a very good instructor! You have had great teachers, and it shows in your work! Thanks to all the folks who share their knowledge with others! Stay safe out there my friend!👍👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏🙏🙏🙏
Thanks for the kind words.
You are correct in the fact that I had good teachers!
I wouldn't be where I am without several good teachers sharing what they know.
I have this channel simply to help others.
I'll second that, being a noob!
While I've been taught to dress my bar and keep the chain sharp and tightened properly, nobody ever explained these kinds of failures could happen. Many thanks - will pass this information forward to my friends! Cheers from Sweden!
Excellent video buddy, great explanation of the transfer of heat from the bar to the bearing!
This is the number 1 failure I see in my shop. Its too bad cause it doesn't need to happen.
@@tinmanssaws Nice Video! In my opinion it's not the heat, that kills the bearing. The main cause is the chain tension. The heat supports the aging of the shaft seal, but it doesn't influence the bearing. ( try to think of a bearing in a glowing turbocharger) . The high tension on the chain means a heavy load in only one direction. i guess the needle bearing of the sprocket was also in a bad condition?
@@allroundgenie1987 can you coke the bearings in a chain saw? You sure can in a turbocharger. Think of the operation of each, one is lubed with 50/1, and the other straight oil. Lots of differences.
Good video. Learned a ton. Keep the chain sharp, run proper fuel mixture with good oil, make sure bar is going oiled properly, clean the filter, and properly tension the chain. If you follow those general rules the saw should last decades unless there is a known defect.
Hay friend you hit the nail on the head excellent observation and explanation
Keep it coming 👍
Man I would like another lifetime just for chainsaws. This life is just too short. Seize the day. Thanks for the videos.
I too am kinda obsessed with chainsaws, they are just so cool and badass.
Amen to that, Agreed
Well said
Surfin the tube every once in awhile you find gold....Tinman your gold
What a great instructor you are my friend. Even pros should take notes. Very good for us all to see this, don't be an over tightener. Thanks Tinman
Excellent video for us newbies at working on saws! Love the failure analysis. New Sub from over at Buckin Billy and will definitely be watching your content as well
Exactly. You described what my new MS391 did. Was not oiling properly, got the bar hot, got the clutch hot, got the lower end hot, and then boom. Stihl rebuilt it for me but, the saw just did not like milling...oiler insufficient. Stihl bars seem not to oil very well and matched up with a stingy oil pump, not a good match.
Great analysis, I agree PTO side bearing failure should be no more than the mag side.
I can't stress enough the importance of running a sharp and properly adjusted chain.
Also just my opinion is another reason these bearings fail is a lack of oil which as you know not only lubricates but also helps to cool again this is just my opion.
Great Video My Friend
I should of showed the exhaust port. Ill bet money I know which oil they were running..
The lack of oil in the bottom end is apparent, something I forgot to metion in the video. The muffler was full of oil though which was strange.
Oh well I'll order stihl bearings and gaskets and get the bottom end sorted out..
@@tinmanssaws I run Lucas synthetic at 40:1. Am I on the right path there, or what do you recomend?
100% awesome illustration/ conclusion of the Small Problems become Big Issues!
Thank you for explaining the process...
Eye opener/ Mind Blowing
Conclusion!
Great vid! It’s great how your camera can focus right up in tight like that to show the play.
This is another outstanding video! I would not have noticed that wear line on the piston skirts. If I'm honest, I would have likely overlooked that glaring evidence of the bar having been overheated. NICE!
I buy blown up saws to study them.
You can learn so much about how a saw lived and died by studying it after its blown up..
I've gained so much knowledge by starting with blown up saws that i dont think id be where i am if i started with good runners..
@@tinmanssaws this video well demonstrates that. Where do you get your blown up saws? I live in northern NV, so there is not am abundance of them locally.
@@SonOfLiberty1984 I buy them all over. Some i get locally, some are from far away etc etc..
Just gotta look around and let people know you are looking for saws and soon enough you'll have a shop full of them.
Wow! The things you learn the hard way! I'm glad I saw this before ruining another saw. After all these years... I wish I had back all the saws I scrapped. Excellent analysis! I've come away with a greater understanding of saws. I can now treat my new saw with some care and diligence, while using my old saw as practice for rebuilding and porting. Your videos are like going to saw school. Thanks, Tinman!
funny
Fantastic Video Tinman !!
Great explanations of how this saw was abused and ultimately failed !!
Love it when a journeyman shares his knowledge. Excellent
Paul from Iowa, I need to talk to my Wife to get her to bid on saws, you have a Good Woman!!!
Spot On tin man Spot On. My dad was a logger and boy his pet peave before passing this year was your explanation. Luv you channel. I’ll pass this info to my son. Keep it up.
You were explaining how a crank seal and or bearing can fail which you are correct , i would like to add that sometimes when a saw gets pinched in the cut it can pull on the chain which pulls on the crank putting pressure on the crank bearings and you can hear the rpms drop so if you don't turn the saw off right away that pressure wears on the bearings burning them out.
You did a good job pointing out the abuse on that bar and the resulting failure.
I like getting the bar with any blown up saw I buy..
It tells me a lot about how the saw lived and died.
Loved this one. Wish I had seen this a month ago while figurering out my 311 stihl with a 24 bar
When the Husky Xtorq's first came out, I bought a 372xp. I got an afternoon out of the bearings. In my case it was shitty bearings and they gave me another new saw and I haven't had any issues.
Thanks again Tinman.
I am close to having watched all your vids now. Instructional and entertaining.
I envy those who are yet to have seen em....lucky buggers!
Wow thats impressive!! I don't think I've even watched them all 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Tinman's saws 😂🤣😂
Great videos, I enjoy them, I've got a few saws been sawing for 20 years after watching your videos I've been tuning a chinease timberpro, it's a husky replica 58cc I've ported it deleted the base gasket shaped a ram stack between the carb and air cleaner, and now I built an expansion chamber using the original muffler it took a bit of work my first attempt gave good power at extremely low rpm and weak at top end so I re worked it now I have great power throughout and the end of the exhaust is dry so no fuel is waisted, the saw originally had 3.5 hp and now it feels like my sthil ms362c which has 4.8 hp, great inspiration from your videos. 👍
In stihl manual it tells you to slack the chain after use if you have retensioned it at operating temp. As the chain cools it gets even tighter and can damage the crankshaft and bearings.
I watch Buckin and the Ironhorse. They both have mentioned you. You have a great channel. I have the MS460, the 461's older version. Its an animal. I did a dual port and had it tuned, what a difference!. You will like that 461 alot for anything you throw at it. Like the content and the explanation you gave! Keep the videos coming.
Tin man awesome video . Very helpful for troubleshooting a saw , like to see more videos like that .......
Hey Tinman hope you’re doing well today I found your channel from Ironhorse great to meet you 👍🙏✌️💪 Great Explanation Thank you
Hey Tinman. Thanks for these videos, I learn a ton from your channel. I Recently picked up a low hour 461 manufactured in 2020. I can tell the clutch got very hot previously. The clutch drum and the clutch itself have bluing and darkening. I couldn't get the e-clip off (ended up breaking it with pliers) but the rest of the components came off no problem.
The saw runs fine. The piston looks good aside from a little wear at the bottom of the skirt on the intake side.
How much of a concern is this past overheating if it didn't blow up the saw? Aside from the discoloration on the clutch drum / clutch, there are no obvious signs that it happened. Does this have implications for the life of the saw? What else should I be checking based on the condition of the clutch?
Very cool video!! Great information and makes sense!! Thanks for sharing!!
So run it like you stole it, Aye? That got hot! Another great video.
nice video man and a lot of people forget to double the oil on first tank on new saws witch my opinion is important that's what I learned in school. but total agree with keeping chain sharp let chain do the work no need to be pushing light or hard on pto side my thoughts.
Very cool ! I learned a bunch !
Thank you- Scott
Great video, interesting information. Thank you.
cheers mate , big hi from sydney australia , not many people porting saws down under , commercially anyways . great vids .
This is great advice but allow to add to keeping chain sharp and not too tight. Always check and refill the chain oil. I almost burned mine because I assumed the oil was still enough but then the chain locked and I didn't know how I was running it on empty oil. Scary stuff. Could have been an expensive fix
I got given a 461 that was found in the middle of the road(it fell off its ride to the dump). Being run over by a large excavator caused its failure, all I could salvage were piston, oiler, coil and a a couple other small parts.
Thats crazy, she got squished real good!!
@@tinmanssaws Oh ya! The young lady that was running the excavator saw her chainsaw fall out the door, but the mountainside was so steep she couldn't stop! It don't matter if it's Stihl, husky, or whatever, they all fare about the same when you run them over.
A very good informative video. Thanks.
Thorough commentary thank you.
I don’t want to start anything but what oil and ratio do you prefer please?
I work for local government we can’t get aftermarket parts and the manufacturers price their parts to expensive to repair so we usually just wind up tossing them into the dumpster for salvage. You wouldn’t believe the stuff we throw out. Sometimes the tech’s make out. On that deal.
Great video, great analysis of the saw!
Makes total sense, thanks for the explanation!
Looks as though you made a good purchase. I'd guess the chain was too tight half of the time and from the look of the bar just above the adjuster hole to the top there was plenty of slop once the chain was good and hot! I'm thinking the bluing on the clutch facing and drum are from nearly stalling the chain in the kerf. It's amazing how many folks will dog in and only pull about half the ideal rpm due to the load they're putting on the chain, dull or not! There is a happy balance to be achieved.
I love seeing a saw walk through a log at an optimum rpm and sling'n chips... The desired Happy Balance!
Bless'ns to ya, Tedd
Yeah I got lucky on that one. Saw runs really well!!
Awesome video! Thank you so much for explaining the “why” behind all the rules I was taught as an early sawyer. I will be sharing this with any new sawyers I train! Just curious, how/what are the physics to a saw running more lean when it gets hot? Does it induce pre-ignition or something (Which maybe would explain the piston slapping around in the cylinder like it did???), and then too much oil is burned up running the RPM’s up and not enough unburned oil left to lubricate?
is it possible that all the problems started because of the missing clutch spring? Noticed the discoloration is mostly on the part of the clutch with no spring
Good video how do u like to remove your aluminum transfer from your cylinders??
Ironhorse sent us over
We used to run them 461s 460s and 462s cut and timber in West Virginia. They run they run OK but I’d rather have a 372 or bigger husky. They run a whole lot better than any of the 460s.
hi there lots of good advice thanks john
I picked up a 350 several years ago that had been rebuilt but the case was melted where the pto bearing sits, so it leaked and I had to get a new case. It was run hard, dull, and dry.
hi, does the chain not stop with this damage even when idling and the engine dies when I engage the chain brake? the clutch bell has already been renewed, unfortunately without success. it is also an 461
thank you
That is a pretty sporty saw, thanks for sharing, good info! Port that baby and wake it up! Stay safe buddy!👍👍👍👍🙏🙏🙏🙏🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Great explanation.. love this video
Thanks, I appreciate the feedback.
I wish I had the knowledge to rebuild chainsaws thank you for making theese videos
Excellent failure analysis. There is a lot of different opinions on over-tight chains. So what is the Tinman’s recommendation on the right amount tightness? Thanks for the great information.
Hello, I remove the muffler in this saw?? 😮😮
that clutch looks like it heated up where the spring was missing... any idea why one of the springs was not there?
Just found a 2020 461, no m-tronic. I snatched it up right away!
461 is a strong saw, I'm liking mine so far.
Love your videos man so good!
I agree w what youre saying about operator error,,,
He says bought at auction, where? I’m looking for a project just like this a bigger stihl that needs a complete overhaul.
Where do you bid on your saws?
also if the chain was hot when put away it will shrink when cool and will also bend crank and destroy bearings on that side as i was told please correct me if wrong
Ya know I've heard that but honestly I've never seen it.
I tend to not run tight chains so I will never be testing that theory..
@@tinmanssawssomeone told me it would happen to a correctly tensioned chain if it was done while hot then allowed to cool ( couldn't see that as it normally only takes about 5 mins to cool) does the heat of the bar have anything to do with the chain tension ?
Good job...👍... makes you wonder .... but not to much when the operated didn't hand over any of his cash to buy it...dgaf
Where can I go to see these saws
Mine just started leaking oil. Is that normal? Imma take it apart and try and fix it.
Leaking oil from where?
So if you don't normally buy saws at auction, why did you buy this one?
The price was right.
can u hone these cyl's are they cast alum...
Yes you can use a fine grit ball hone carefully..
Hey tin man I’m looking for a blown up MS 361 if you could help me with that
Great info. Thanks
Love the diagnose videos
please can you do a how to port on a ms500i
Mr. Tinman, my nephew has an older Stihl 048 AV Electronic saw. 1 day it quit running on him so he brought it over to me to fix. I did some mucking about and came to the determination that the coil was bad, I got to asking around to my local saw shops for a coil. they weren't much help. so off to E-Bay for a few questions and got a newer style coil. I also pulled the flywheel and checked to make sure that everything was clean and that's when I discovered the electronic ignition module under the flywheel. I do not know how to test that to see if its good or not. I did an OHM test on both the new and old coil and got the same results. Can you perhaps shed some light on my issue. Thanks for your time
Tightening the chian while hot and then storing it.
excellant analysis!
Hey so not sure if you will see this? Seeing it’s an older video I don’t no anyway tinman man I just snagged another 461 and I am gonna follow these ones you posted . So yeah here’s to not blowing it up!!!
Damn that saw looks almost new
That’s a $1200.00 usd saw. What kinda nitwit does that to a piece of equipment? Probably the same kinda guy that whips a rented mule until it collapsed. Great buy for you!
Government owned saw, the guys running them don't care because its not theirs.
Thank you, this really helped
Excellent!
Very cool.
I tried doing failure analysis in a nutshell. Too cramped for me.
When you figure of the cost of the chain saw into the hourly wages, things get real expensive. Mechanical training needs to be more than a 30min. lesson ‼️
You have the state working probably young kids that don’t really want to be there probably and they run a dual chain with a chainsaw wide open and ride the clutch trying to get it to cut trees is the reason why that all is probably tore up as bad as it is if you’d give that to somebody that knew how to run a chainsaw that chainsaw would run for 25 years or longer
government employees being lazy on a job and not taking care of something? I never heard of such a thing
Sad that a nice saw got ruined just because someone was to lazy to take the time to do proper maintenance !
Yeppers, but then it ended up in the saw lab and now its in my personal fleet!! Win for the Tinman!!
Clutch was missing a spring
Yep it was
powerfister 0:16
why would hotter make auto tune run more lean?
pardon, any clue where to get an ms271 top end? easy to find the piston but not the cylinder :(... supposedly is a 44.7mm for the ms271, would it be possible to use a ms270 top end which supposedly is a 47mm?
Not familer with athils saws..mechanicly
My names ben..have to use other channel..been attacked by hackers..exctra
Too tight too much stress!
That looks like a newer saw ... I'm commenting at very beginning... shouldn't be having failure already...???
Ha ha I should've waited... government equipment gets abused
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