Reacting to the Green Bay Packers losing in the regular season finale to the Chicago Bears
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- Опубліковано 7 січ 2025
- On the Green 19 podcast, Dominique Yates, Tom Silverstein and Ryan Wood break down the Packers' 24-22 loss to the Bears to end the regular season 11-6 and now set to face Philadelphia in the NFC wild card.
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I don’t think this team can get much further under MLF. He’s had near prime Rodgers for a couple seasons, fell short. Regressed dramatically with Love and the offense. Consistently mismanaging big games. I think MLF’s seat should be getting warm, especially if we see the same thing next weekend.
That's what seems to be the picture being drawn. He'll get another year as he has earned it but there is a limit.
Agree with both - not quite hot seat time, but one more year of it and we're there.
He’s got a year left.. let’s see what he does with it!
I haven't had faith in Lafleur since his first couple playoff losses, same old things keep on happening over and over
Same
Yep I agree
But everyone wanted to blame 12. He is soft and his teams play like that
Loves accuracy is worrying.
and decision making.
If you mismanage a playoff game, you can find yourself on the hot seat. IMHO, this offensive line is a lot better at run blocking than pass blocking. And watching the Lions pressue Darnold as opposed to what we did shows a level up.
Truth is Love is no better than an average player. Now he even seems injury prone, skittish and inaccurate in the cold. All that dunking on 12 and now look.
All the interceptions early spooked Love. He’s playing way too conservative.
Truly one of the most depressing Packers games I have ever watched. The coaching preparation (or lack thereof) and the decisions by MLF, the last play call by Hafley, and I could go on - they are simply indefensible. This team is a hot mess right now and heading south with bullet. Can they beat the Eagles? Sure, but it’s unlikely this can all get fixed in a week, and it shows much deeper problems with the coaching staff. And they are NOT going to beat the Eagles with a running game and defense. The primary reason for a good running game in the NFL is to set up gashing, play action passes - and that’s just not happening.
Face it, Love isn't "it". The sooner the better that is realized the better.
Too late now. They paid him a boatload.
True Love is spooked by the terrible early season interceptions
something is not right with his play
The players don't know when to run out of bounds or stay in.
Hilarious, there favorite phrases are we have to be better and we need to clean it up.
right on, they say this every week, yet nothing changes.
reminds me at the end of Mike Sherman era😉
@@MarkRizzo62 then the first play of the next week - penalty!
@@Jungla694 Yup, no improvement of any kind
The meaning of insanity at this point - same process or mistakes over and over and over !
Total opposite of 2023 season: went in with momentum and red hot. 2024: going in stone cold without momentum.
Make sure not to ask Lafluer a tough question in press conference. He'll lose it.
Brian Gudekenst and Matt Lefluer would do themselves a big favor by listening to Spoon Silverstein ... I think with his wealth of knowledge and many years of Packers experience covering the team he knows as much about the team and that he is a wise owl to listen to and to contemplate what he says.
Great name!
Not sold on Jordan Love at all
Lafleur is making the same coaching mistakes from before, he preaches, "we need to clean this us", but as the leader, he doesn't himself. I wonder if this is affecting Love's development??
I'm questioning Ryan's take on Jayden Reed being good. He has been below average to bad the second half of the season.
He can't beat press/man coverage often enough
Since LaFleur promoted Bisaccia to assistant head coach it has been a dumpster fire. Rich B can't even field a decent special teams unit, now he is in LaFleurs ear offensively and defensively. LaFleur took the blame, but Bisaccia needs to immediately say to LaFleur that McManus can hit it from 55. Without that assurance LaFleur doesn't have confidence, then plans to go for it on 4th down. Finally Bisaccia yells let's kick, and LaFleur runs McManus out. But already stopped the clock.
Lost the game on special teams, lost the game on clock mngmt, lost the game by only rushing 3 and playing prevent on 3rd and 11.
Fire Bisaccia, Get Saleh working with the defense, not the offense, and get Luke Getsy out of Green Bay(you seriously brought in Luke Getsy weeks ago?) LaFleur has too many cooks in the kitchen, and he stupidly listens to all of them. The offense is a complete disaster.
Fire Bisaccia before going to Philadelphia. I am serious with that. The special teams assistant can take over. You have six days LaFleur, to make changes and make things work. If you don't, and crap the bed in Philly, your seat is on fire.🔥
Get it done little man.
I think this is the worst Packers team I've seen under Lafluer.
Quit the 3rd/4th and short hard count BS too. OMG, that is so weak. These sweeps end up with Reed against 4 defenders. Maybe they've seen the tape?
What happened to the "best young receiving corp" in the league ?
2 guys are glass houses. Alexander and Watson. Some guys bodies just can't take the rigors of the NFL and the packers have a few . Musgrave also.
I'd like to see Love hit someone in the chest with a pass on 3rd down and short, just once.
Matt Lefluer and Adam Stenovich have the least imagination for the offensive scheme as anyone in the game ... They must have found a playbook from the 1950s in some attic at Lambeau Stadium ...
Rich is getting paid too much for this mess. Let him go.
Didn't the bears just fire their coach for being an idiot? The Packers should follow suit.
No, the Packers just keep hiring the coaches that get fired! They are all LaFluer's buddies. New York Jets head coach Robert Saleh joined the Green Bay Packers in a "fluid" role to help with the offense. Lotta good that was!
Don’t ever do anything the Bears just did!😂
LaFluer not getting it done. He doesn’t even “clean up” his coaching mistakes! Love has regressed and looks unsure and inaccurate back there. He’s definitely not Favre and Rodgers quality
I think saying "We have to be better" will take care of it.
😂
why don't you reporters hammer MLF in his excuse riddled presser's like you do on these POD cast ? You reporters are as soft and inconsistent as the Packers
So well said
You're damn right
Finally, you guys are starting to call out LaFleur for his clock-management and play-calling issues. HIs problems did not get turned around after the NFCCG "field goal" decision against Tampa. He often panics during time management, gets locked into game plans, can't hardly make a correct challenge. This is not a one-time thing.
No one touched the Love is inaccurate statement....just a yeah....heads in the sand
Since LaFleur promoted Bisaccia to assistant head coach it has been a dumpster fire. Rich B can't even field a decent special teams units, and now he is in LaFleurs ear offensively and defensively. LaFleur took the blame, but Bisaccia needs to immediately say to LaFleur that McManus can hit it from 55. Without that assurance LaFleur doesn't have confidence, then plans to go for it on 4th down. Finally Bisaccia yells let's kick, and LaFleur runs McManus out. But already stopped the clock.
Lost the game on special teams, lost the game on clock mngmt, lost the game by only rushing 3 on 3rd and 11.
Fire Bisaccia, Get Saleh working with the defense and get Luke Getsy out of Green Bay. LaFleur has too many cooks in the kitchen and he stupidly listens to all of them and the offense is a complete mess.
Fire Bisaccia before going to Philadelphia. I am serious with that. The special teams assistant can take over. You have six days LaFleur to make changes and make things happen. If you don't, and crap the bed in Philly, your seat is on fire.🔥
Get it done little man.
One thing that I think everyone is missing is the fact that Jordan Love is one of the worst athletes at quarterback in the NFL ... The man CANNOT run ... It's a factor that can't be fixed either ... He has 12 yards rushing in the last 4 games and ZERO against the Bears last weekend ... Aaron Rodgers at 41 years old is still a better athlete and he isn't close to what he used to be ... Think of the advantage the Bills with Josh Allen and the Ravens with Lamar Jackson or Jalen Hurts and the Eagles have over the Packers and a living statue ... You are supposed to become a cement statue after you retire, not while you are still playing ... This is a major disadvantage the Packers will have for the foreseeable future !!
I think he could be an effective runner, just to keep the defense "honest", but he REFUSES TO RUN, which is why he should be benched until he does. Didn't they take this into account before the big contract?
@denniswagner2391 ... You are right Dennis ... The Packers can't run the run , pass option that most teams can .
Jordan has a good arm and moves well in the pocket ... And no doubt Tom Brady had a great career and he couldn't run a bit .
Tom Brady couldn’t run either. How many rings does he have?
@@bigtuna9529 ... I made that point earlier.
Love isn't going through progressions. Under center play action? There's a lot broken. Nailed it with pass rush, corner, pass rush, situational coaching, and Love. Is he that guy? Is Lafluer fit to be a coach?
Couldn't get to Darnold either. All day back there. So, one might think they'd bring a heavy blitz here and there....nope
Packers have a very deep Receiver Room but it'd be nice if there was a veteran in that room to help the group "Grow Up"
Deep in potential but not in performance. Right now, they are middling at best.
Jordan Love has regressed. The Packers gave Love the MASSIVE contract & the truth is... Love is not very good. The Packers will go as far as Love takes them. (that's not very far) Love needs to go back to quarterback school. He has lost his ability to throw with any accuracy. Good quarterbacks hit receivers IN STRIDE!! The ability to make EXPLOSIVE PLAYS! Love has no accuracy. He cannot hit any receiver on the run. What happened? Love will be done in Green Bay after next season - if he doesn't improve. Love is one of the highest paid quarterbacks in football. He wanted the money, he sat out.. and now he's checked out! Where is the accountability for a massively OVER PAID, POORLY-PERFORMING Quarterback. The Eagles will destroy this team. Tragic!
I expected the Pack to come out and look sharp. Tune up to be ready for the playoffs. Play clean. Play sharp. None of that happened. Pull starters AFTER you've achieved that, not before.
How many winning teams don't defer the kickoff when they win the coin flip? I understand when you're playing on the road in a very loud stadium trying to quiet the crowd but when you take the ball and go 3 and out you've not really messed up
Flus did the SAME THING, when he gave the Wash. Commanders a play for the Hail Mary. Dummy. Feel for the Pack? NO, you have to play the Eagles at their house because of coaching error.
Go Birds 🦅🦅🦅
Bears should have beaten them both games. Fly Eagles Fly GB one and done. 😂😂😂😂
Should’ve would’ve could’ve. The Bears could’ve made it to the playoffs if they would’ve won like six more games. So close
@@danalmos1978 And Cheesheads are one and done in Philly.
@@electric8668 Pack in playoffs again! Such a good feeling! Any team can be beat any given day. Just ask Cowboys fans about that.
A week from today, will be saying the EXACT same things.
You CANNOT put 3 players 25 yds off the ball and leave the middle wide open. I thought WTF are they doing. Looked like the Browns.
It is darkest before the dawn.
Your dead on Jordan love is not a very accurate passer, weather throwing deep or crossing patterns or whatever
Thats true o line is not playing well the last 2 games
Bears suck? Newsflash brother packers suck! one and done baby one and done. They’re lucky to be in the playoffs. They’re not half the team they were last year and they’re certainly not getting hot at the end of the season like they did last year. The fact of the matter is you say the Bears suck while you’re fingertip away from being 0-2 against the Bears this year and you have identical, NFC North records, 1-5!
Packers still own the Bears! 26 and 5 the last 31 games they played against each other. Pack is going to the playoffs again! Teams that suck don’t make the playoffs.
Get back to me after the Philly game lol
Why, no matter what happens in that Philly game ain’t gonna change the fact that the Bears still suck
Bear down!
They got film on love now and mlf hasn't adapted and stayed a step ahead.
Exactly. Defenses know Love is going to run, no matter what.
Can we finally say it ! This team is NOT loaded with talent. The offense sucks and the defense is loaded with first round busts! They have said for 3 years we have four #1 receivers and that bull crap. They can’t get open vs man to man and they can’t catch the ball. Lefleur has gone backwards and his play calling is ……!
Start Malik Willis vs eagles please, let Jordan Love rest I don't think Malik Willis is anything under Jordan love I think they're like the same level or willis can possibly be even better than Jordan Love if he gets developed with the passing game but he's been playing on a very high level
Agree with spoon, too many talking in his ear,????
Bears fan here but not to act the fool. I also like the Pac. Blame whoever but the fact remains that the Pac is 1-5 within division and easily could have been 0-6 or 2-4 all because of FGs. Face facts Pac cats, this version of GB is missing something from last year. Love has not elevated his game to a consistently high level, he has holes in his game. The rest of the offense has some real nice talent. The defense has also slipped. How can the Pac only generate one sack vs Chicago? How come every other opponent figured out to get in Calebs face early and ignore the long ball? Not the Pac though. I have to question the DC and what he brings. What the hell was that defense vs the Bears on the play that put them in FG range? That play screamed of "Eberflus level" screw up. Seems the Pac is not that far ahead of the Bears in coaching screw ups. That fake punt embarrassed the Pac. Here is how to sum up your season - Lots of hat but not much cattle.. Hope Watson recovers - even we Bears fans like him. This is fixable. See ya next year.
you lost me at Pac
LaFleur is a long way from a good coach
Bla, bla, bla their vacation begins the 12th. Mediocre team at best. 😅😅😅
Packers could have drafted Jalen Carter.
No they couldn’t have. Bears had the #1 overall pick, then traded with Philly to come up one spot for him.
Well football is football you better have a short memory and go into playoff mode and sometimes it seems like a rerun we use to watch everything becomes the same between McCarthy and lafleur they do such same things
But it is just a sport so much more to look at for the new year and the nfl still trys to pull the garbage agenda around also football is not the same to much has changed not for the better
Negative Nancy Tom should be good on this one
But for a blocked field goal, the Bears would've besten the Packers teice. Get off your high horse.
Creative offensive mind ? Nope. Get the OC from Detroit.
Call Jon Gruden
I don't think he'd take the job
LaFailure
Thank god Ryan Wood picked Philly to win. He is always wrong. Positive in the Packers favor. I can not take Mr. Pink sport coat. My god is he a pathetic and clueless clown.
Cheese with whine!
Love this. FGB
Since LaFleur promoted Bisaccia to assistant head coach it has been a dumpster fire. Rich B can't even field a decent special teams units, and now he is in LaFleurs ear offensively and defensively. LaFleur took the blame, but Bisaccia needs to immediately say to LaFleur that McManus can hit it from 55. Without that assurance LaFleur doesn't have confidence, then plans to go for it on 4th down. Finally Bisaccia yells let's kick, and LaFleur runs McManus out. But already stopped the clock.
Lost the game on special teams, lost the game on clock mngmt, lost the game by only rushing 3 on 3rd and 11.
Fire Bisaccia, Get Saleh working with the defense and get Luke Getsy out of Green Bay. LaFleur has too many cooks in the kitchen and he stupidly listens to all of them and the offense is a complete mess.
Fire Bisaccia before going to Philadelphia. I am serious with that. The special teams assistant can take over. You have six days LaFleur to make changes and make things happen. If you don't, and crap the bed in Philly, your seat is on fire.🔥
Get it done little man.