A lot of people get caught up using multiple exercises to train the same muscle groups with the same movement patterns and this is horrible for maximizing your gains. The key to building a bigger back is knowing which exercises target which parts of the back to ensure you are ALWAYS GROWING WIDE & THICK (giggity). This video will clear up a lot of confusion and by the end you will know WHY you are incorporating these two movements in your routines! 💪 *CLICK THAT NOTIFICATION BELL SO YOU NEVER MISS AN UPLOAD!* (0:17)- VERSUS SERIES PLAYLIST ua-cam.com/video/qia2yOo6VJo/v-deo.html&list=PLacPhVACI3MNwwM_EgqLrM6B69N_8uiVE&index=1 (3:04)- 7 Dumbest Barbell Bent-Over Row Mistakes Sabotaging Your BACK GROWTH! | STOP DOING THESE! ua-cam.com/video/WkmlAp776Bk/v-deo.html&list=PLacPhVACI3MMi2Q2moATxKCm-ZaQ-ixk5&index=6
ScottHermanFitness Love your videos Scott. Been using your advise and workouts since I was in high school and they have help me reach my fitness goals. They have also helped me maintain my size while in the military. Love what you do, nothing but respect
Seville Dias athlean is dumb sometimes (like his calf video) some of his videos require to use some unconventional and wierd things, then he tries to sell if and say 'athletes use it so buy it faggot'. Scott is better, jc has good stuff for rehabilitation though
I've been watching your videos for YEARS now and I just wanted to thank you for all the good information and staying natty. When I first started lifting I was confused why some guys progressed so quickly in size before I realized they were juicing. You are a perfect example of how a natural progresses in size and I appreciate that you don't give your viewers shitty information and a false reality of progression
Great video Scott! I tend to do T Bar Rows on back days where I lift heavy, because it's easier on my lower back after doing heavy deadlifts or rack pulls. For that reason I prefer t bar rows, but on days where I do high volume I tend to throw bent over rows In instead of t bar rows. I like both :)
Awesome tip about about bending and chest placement in bb bent over rows.. Have been lifting for 6 years and couldn't notice why lower back fails before lats! Thanx a lot Scott!
drake man that's great logic man....someone needs to workout their brain to understand when you have pain your body is telling you to stop immediately.
This is why you should train body weight and bar only for months before actually loading weight. Most don't cause they are embarrassed at the gym lifting only the bar. Start at home with the basics push ups,pull-up,dips, star jumps, sprints ,jogs, core work. When you start finally lifting you understand form and when you break it!
Love the video Scott! I just started using the T-Bar Row in my back workout days. Will continue for a month to see improvements but I'm 110% certain I will see changes! Your form correction is point on and I always follow you for correcting my posture! Great work!
damn, thanks for the tips!! all of this time I've been going on bent over row without bending my body enough for this exercise, and I've just realized that it's wrong, thanks Scott Herman
great video, been doing both exercises on my routine; gonna start doing pure chinups followed up by them T-bar rows and finishing up with some trap shrugs. Can't wait for them gainzz!!
Great stuff - obviously there are platforms and attachments that creates versatility to the T-Bar. You can easily increase the range of motion beyond the Barbell. You can also push down (if the handle is in front of collar) against the T-Bar set-up to depress the shoulders and engage the lat
Thanks for the videos, great information. A quick tip for the lifters, you can sit the barbell on the rack and lift it from there when doing barbell row, that way it won't put as much pressure on your lower back. For T-bar row, try to find something like pieces of wood that you can stand on and do T-bar row, it won't limit range of motion of the exercise. I prefer the T-bar row like Scott just because I can put less weight on the bar (I'm lazy). If you want an even easier and less fatigue, try single dumbbell row. It'll produce less fatigue and more isolation, at least that's how I feel.
There is a variation of the barbell row that came out before the Yates row. It's called the Pendlay row, great row especially for beginners but advanced athletes shouldn't forget about it either. It's basically a overhand row where each rep is done from a dead stop, like a deadlift. *Oh and don't forget the amazing meadows row. That's probably the best for lats specifically*
Back and shoulders are my favorite by far to work out and the T bar row is a beast for back. Especially the rogue platform type. Major gains! Great video Scott. Informative and enjoyable!
Been working out for awhile but have always felt like my technique was bad, After watching youre videos i realized how bad my technique has really been, I wanna thank you so much Scott Herman for helping me realize what i was doing wrong, I feel like now i actually have thepotential to be as muscular as i really wanna be. You the man Scott Herman, I really apreciate all youre videos, They helped me out tremendously and i wish i had of seen youre videos alot sooner!
Excellent presentation that proves deep insight of the subject matter.Explanations are clear, innovative and allow several options.Thanks,really great work.
love your video's, persistence, and info. Been watching, used your advice for chest, and back tonight, and worked so hard i threw up. great workout. ty and keep up the hard work
Thanks for the awesome informational video again, Scott! :) So I guess I'm fine as I've done T-Bar Row to my belly button and Bent Over Rows with overhand grip ;) Also, when you think of it in simple terms, T-Bar Row enables for more weight because the bar is more of a lever. TEAM VEGETA!
Really love all those different details between exercise you try to point out. And just realize i might have done them all wrong by training same muscle group. Defintely will check out your program!
Back is my 2nd fav muscle group to trained which I trained twice a week. Even tough i practice rowing frequently thanx for the tips specially how to eliminate hack tension
Yates row is reverse grip, its always been reverse grip. In an interview, Dorian Yates explained why he preferred reverse grip saying it gave him a deeper pull.
I love T-Bar Rows, they just feel great when your are performing them and when you are finished. I love that you can safely use a lot of weight to overload the muscles.
I started doing T-bar rows for the first time this week. My max is six 45 pound plates at 3 reps. I am more comfortable doing 5 plates. I can do at least 8 and I'm already seeing more results than I ever did doing rows.
Hey Scott! Do you think you could do a video comparing the different sweeteners in foods and supplements (sugar, aspartame, splenda, sucrose, glucose, fructose etc) Interested to know your thoughts on the positive and negatives of each
T-Bar row for me. Works like a beast isolating your back. I got a cheap T-bar row bar off amazon and I feel more burn than using your hands like you are doing at 1:49. Overall its probably good to switch up and use both.
You can use D-handles to extend the range of a Bent-over row, you also benefit from a medium or medium-to-wide semi-supine grip to hit the lower lats BUT also hit the rhomboid and you can also rest your upper chest on the back edge of a reclined bench, or simply be lying on it, and even use dumbells.
Cool Video Scott like always! I was just going to do back tomorrow so this video was really helpful. I'm going to do the T-Bar row for some serious muscle gain! Thank you and keep up the good videos!
I've been doing supersets, dropsets and the cheat recovery method for over 4 months on all my exercises and duuuude people been thinking I am on roids..Thank you so much Scott
Hey scott, Thanks for the great vid. Can you please suggest any exercises i could do at home with some weights to isolate the upper back? ie rhomboids, traps etc.
Just do some rows to your chest with dumbbells Jaspal! That will smash your upper back! Have you checked out my 12 week home program? That will give you some ideas too! muscularstrength.com/12-Week-Home-Program
ScottHermanFitness I LOVE THAT YOU REPLY. THANKS. also I do not have access to a bench, so should I just do them standing up? Thanks again Scott. You and Jeff Cavaliere are my heros.
Jorge Gonzalez no that is not correct anatomically. The role of the late are to "bring the humerus back into the body". Both movements of done correctly do both.
ScottHermanFitness also the bent over row engages your hamstrings, core, abs, traps, lats, biceps, and shoulders during the exercise. The T row engages more of the Biceps than Back. Pull ups with Weight hit the Back better than the T Row.
i like them too but as for me best rowing is on some "machine" with support of torso because you can fully stretch at bottom and on the top you can have best contraction, ideally some kind of reverse shoulder blades bridge (and relaxed lumbar spine). although there are in game also traps and others i like the full contraction. but good machines for this are quite rare, most of them, including hs, are worse than just barbell alone...
I've been doing the T-bar row for 3 months and I much prefer it to the Bent over row. I don't enjoy the motion of the BOR and like how I can overload my back with the T-bar row.
I would suggest the Reverse Grip T Bar Row apparatus that has a pad connected to it that you can lean on. Some gyms have them and it's my favorite for a great lat and bicep workout.
if you really want to get the most outta that stretch from the tbar row get elevated enough that at full stretch the weight doesn't touch the floor, use bands, and have a slight rounding of the upper back. and for those who get wrist or shoulder problems from underhand rows buy some specialty bars if you like, something like; neutral grip, semi underhand or semi overhand, ezbar, rotational handle, or bars the provide a built in buffer (decrease rom to save the shoulders if youre already fucked), or use dumbbells or kettlebells.
i always like first then i watch the video. because your videos and the way you present them in a positive way gives me all kinds of good information and feelings - u are amazing man keep doin what u do
Pullups emphasize the rhombus muscles and lat pull down machine emphasizes the lats. It could also be a form thing. Crossfitters can do 100 "pull ups" in a row, but none of them would even engage the back. If you are kipping on your pullups then that's your problem right there. I would try to use an assisted pull up machine to see how much you can pull up with strict form (if you are kipping). Your assisted pull up weight should be similar to your lat pull down weight.
resop3 no kip what so ever I keep my legs completely straight I engage my core, retract my scap, use wide grip for lats and I pull straight to my chest
Well.. if you are doing pulldowns AFTER your pull-ups.. that would be why too. Pulldowns are a bit different.. for example, the weight is in front of you.. whereas with bodyweight pull-ups the weight is behind you. Don't be too concerned about it.. just keep working on building your strength in both areas and as Resop said, make sure there's no kipping so that you are using just your back.
ScottHermanFitness thanks for the advice now let me ask you this, in your honest opinion is it better to do 20-30 pull-ups with weight or 50-60 without sometimes I find myself doing 60 normal strict pull-ups 6 sets of 10 other times I find myself doing 50 pull-ups but variation such as Lsit, archer pull-ups that's sort of thing and other times I do 20-30 reps with weight. I know my back is strong because of the amount of pull-ups I can do with ease, but my my back doesn't exactly look like I can jump up on a bar and do 20 strict chest to par pull-ups
Another difference is that the pull down machine is close grip (at least the ones I use are). I have the opposite problem, my wide grip (arms in the same plane as the body) is less developed than my close grip (arms in front of the body). I can do 80 lbs on the pull down machine but only 60lbs on the wide grip cable pull down. However, it's all good. Just use the weight that you can maintain strict form on and eventually things will work out.
I do my best! Thanks for watching!! Make sure you check out the 12 week programs available on my site so you can get ready for my Cheat & recover program! muscularstrength.com/Full-Workout-Programs
A lot of people get caught up using multiple exercises to train the same muscle groups with the same movement patterns and this is horrible for maximizing your gains. The key to building a bigger back is knowing which exercises target which parts of the back to ensure you are ALWAYS GROWING WIDE & THICK (giggity). This video will clear up a lot of confusion and by the end you will know WHY you are incorporating these two movements in your routines! 💪 *CLICK THAT NOTIFICATION BELL SO YOU NEVER MISS AN UPLOAD!*
(0:17)- VERSUS SERIES PLAYLIST
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(3:04)- 7 Dumbest Barbell Bent-Over Row Mistakes Sabotaging Your BACK GROWTH! | STOP DOING THESE!
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ScottHermanFitness,
Praise Jesus.
As long as you hit your macros with food.. you dont need supplements my bro!! You are ok!
ScottHermanFitness
Love your videos Scott. Been using your advise and workouts since I was in high school and they have help me reach my fitness goals. They have also helped me maintain my size while in the military. Love what you do, nothing but respect
always giving good advices thanksssss scott
ScottHermanFitness *giggity
I guess Scott is the only UA-camr with over a million subs that replies to most of the comments on every video. *respect*
Thanks my bro!!
Seville Dias he's also the only one that really links his videos in the description
👍
I also noticed that. But i think thats just because of his majestic hair
Yes. He is. The other ones dont care about us.
Will be cumparin' tha bahbell bent ovah row, vehrsis tha t-bah row
BAHbell rows ah HAHdah than t-BAH rows.
but befah we STAAHted...
Bruh
Best accent ever .. don’t hate
@@infiniteg7852no one's hating weirdo
SCOTT IS TYPE OF DUDE WHO SLEEPS WITH HIS SCAPULA RETRACTED..😂💪💪
Back gains while sleeping bruh!!!!
ScottHermanFitness Scott man i like your videos can u tell something about what u think about decline bench press..💪
Lmfao
its a great addition to a chest routine.. but not required!
Wrong Channel bro. Lol go comment on Athlean-X.
Switched to T-Bar Row and saw crazy results in just three weeks. Back training is one of my favorites.
Better to use a T-Bar than a Baw Bell.
@@thunkjunkT-bah
I used last 2 weeks T bar rows.I grow my back and lats. But, barbell last month I started and not excellent
ScottHermanFitness and Athlean-X are two of best fitness channels on UA-cam. Would love to see them collab on a video.
I am sure we will one day!
Seville Dias so fucking true !!!
ScottHermanFitness Have y'all ever met though?
Seville Dias athlean is dumb sometimes (like his calf video)
some of his videos require to use some unconventional and wierd things, then he tries to sell if and say 'athletes use it so buy it faggot'. Scott is better, jc has good stuff for rehabilitation though
jeff nippard too
I've been watching your videos for YEARS now and I just wanted to thank you for all the good information and staying natty. When I first started lifting I was confused why some guys progressed so quickly in size before I realized they were juicing. You are a perfect example of how a natural progresses in size and I appreciate that you don't give your viewers shitty information and a false reality of progression
This video is amazing, no detail was left out, very thorough and informative. Thanks Scott.
T Bar Wins In My Opinion, Puts Less Stress On The *BAHHHHHHHHK!!!!*
hahaha nice man nice!
You would want a stressed back, that's how you strengthen the core. I'd do row before then t-bar. BOOM! build that big back baby!!
@@oap81 exactly 💪🏼🔥
cringe
Do a full body vs split Video please!
you got it!!
ScottHermanFitness Appreciate it. ;)
ScottHermanFitness full body vs split vs one muscle group
Great video Scott! I tend to do T Bar Rows on back days where I lift heavy, because it's easier on my lower back after doing heavy deadlifts or rack pulls. For that reason I prefer t bar rows, but on days where I do high volume I tend to throw bent over rows In instead of t bar rows. I like both :)
yeah both is great as long as you know how to utilize both movements!
Dude Scott massive respect for all this content❤️
Thanks man!! Means a lot!
This is quickly becoming the only channel I come to for pointers and advice.
I do bent over, overhand, barbell rows. I've never felt limited by my lower back or leg strength.
Guess that means you've been doing them right!! Nice!
I switched from barbell rows to T-bar rows and my lower back feels so much better
I find the T-Bar row works better for me by far
yeah it is a beast movement!
ScottHermanFitness yep! Could you do any videos on forgotten tricep exercises? I'm tired of doing the same stuff all the time:/
overrated
@@lorcan8484you literally comment the dumbest shit prove it's overrated because others here saw great results in a shorter time with these
12:16 answers the video title.
baaaahbel
BAHHHHHHHBELL BROO!!
did u get the accent later in life, cuz in ur oldest videos u dont have one
Chris S He was hiding it
never gets old lmao
+Nick Wright wtf is going on in the comment section? lmfao
Thanks, been doing these lately but didn't realise my mistakes.
Happy to help!
I love your channel. No bs. Just genuine sharing of knowledge.
I do weighted pullups for my lats, and yates row for traps/rhomboids. Works really well.
awesome! I bet you see some great gains!
Awesome tip about about bending and chest placement in bb bent over rows.. Have been lifting for 6 years and couldn't notice why lower back fails before lats! Thanx a lot Scott!
hey hey!! my pleasure!!!
Yates row is the way to go for me, as I hurt my back a while ago and nervous to bend any further.
Sorry about your back bro!
drake man that's great logic man....someone needs to workout their brain to understand when you have pain your body is telling you to stop immediately.
This is why you should train body weight and bar only for months before actually loading weight. Most don't cause they are embarrassed at the gym lifting only the bar. Start at home with the basics push ups,pull-up,dips, star jumps, sprints ,jogs, core work. When you start finally lifting you understand form and when you break it!
Skill issue
Love the video Scott! I just started using the T-Bar Row in my back workout days. Will continue for a month to see improvements but I'm 110% certain I will see changes! Your form correction is point on and I always follow you for correcting my posture! Great work!
tbar rows is my favourite.. love the pump i get from this exercise after a set back feels like it's on fire haha
Scott you have no idea how much I am addicted to your channel, love these
damn, thanks for the tips!! all of this time I've been going on bent over row without bending my body enough for this exercise, and I've just realized that it's wrong, thanks Scott Herman
but before we get staaated....
SMASH THAT LIKE BUTTON! haha and turn on notifications :-D
Already did so years ago my dude......
great video, been doing both exercises on my routine; gonna start doing pure chinups followed up by them T-bar rows and finishing up with some trap shrugs. Can't wait for them gainzz!!
Thanks Scott, I will incorporate to my workout alternatively... Love from Tajikistan.....
Scott's the kind of guy that contracts his bicep when lifting a cup of coffee.
Got to take every chance to get a bicep flex in!!
I don’t think anyone can lift a coffee cup without engaging the biceps even a little?
Easily my favorite trainer to study form from online. Look forward to each vid posting!
Great stuff - obviously there are platforms and attachments that creates versatility to the T-Bar. You can easily increase the range of motion beyond the Barbell. You can also push down (if the handle is in front of collar) against the T-Bar set-up to depress the shoulders and engage the lat
right on Paul!! there are always more things you can do!
I didn’t think about using 25’s instead of 45’s 🤦🏼♂️. That is a great tip thank you 👊🏼.
6:01 , Cersei said ' POWER IS POWER '
Pahhwahh is Pahhwahh
Thanks for the videos, great information. A quick tip for the lifters, you can sit the barbell on the rack and lift it from there when doing barbell row, that way it won't put as much pressure on your lower back. For T-bar row, try to find something like pieces of wood that you can stand on and do T-bar row, it won't limit range of motion of the exercise. I prefer the T-bar row like Scott just because I can put less weight on the bar (I'm lazy). If you want an even easier and less fatigue, try single dumbbell row. It'll produce less fatigue and more isolation, at least that's how I feel.
"Before we get Staaaahted!!!" Yassss, love the videos mate. Keep up the great work!
Thanks man!! More coming for sure! if you ever need help with a program, join my site! muscularstrength.com/Full-Workout-Programs
There is a variation of the barbell row that came out before the Yates row. It's called the Pendlay row, great row especially for beginners but advanced athletes shouldn't forget about it either. It's basically a overhand row where each rep is done from a dead stop, like a deadlift.
*Oh and don't forget the amazing meadows row. That's probably the best for lats specifically*
Back and shoulders are my favorite by far to work out and the T bar row is a beast for back. Especially the rogue platform type. Major gains! Great video Scott. Informative and enjoyable!
I love these two rows. And do them both - with variations.
if you know how to use both, that is best!
please make a video on stretchmarks
how to treat them, and what precautions should i take so that i dont get any in future.
I have some stuff on my site.. check out red light therapy!
Stretch marks are the scars of warriors. Wear them with pride!
Justin Chung yep
Been working out for awhile but have always felt like my technique was bad, After watching youre videos i realized how bad my technique has really been, I wanna thank you so much Scott Herman for helping me realize what i was doing wrong, I feel like now i actually have thepotential to be as muscular as i really wanna be. You the man Scott Herman, I really apreciate all youre videos, They helped me out tremendously and i wish i had of seen youre videos alot sooner!
6:02 love that sentence,
“Knowledge is power”
Power is power
Excellent presentation that proves deep insight of the subject matter.Explanations are clear, innovative and allow several options.Thanks,really great work.
love your video's, persistence, and info. Been watching, used your advice for chest, and back tonight, and worked so hard i threw up. great workout. ty and keep up the hard work
Glad a dude that's natural can get people's attention..dude is great
Thanks for the awesome informational video again, Scott! :) So I guess I'm fine as I've done T-Bar Row to my belly button and Bent Over Rows with overhand grip ;)
Also, when you think of it in simple terms, T-Bar Row enables for more weight because the bar is more of a lever.
TEAM VEGETA!
DAMN RIGHT TEAM VEGETA!
Really love all those different details between exercise you try to point out.
And just realize i might have done them all wrong by training same muscle group.
Defintely will check out your program!
happy to help!! will look forward to seeing you on the site! muscularstrength.com/Full-Workout-Programs
thanx for the video scott bro.
You are very welcome!!!
Back is my 2nd fav muscle group to trained which I trained twice a week. Even tough i practice rowing frequently thanx for the tips specially how to eliminate hack tension
Nice video Scott, it opened my mind up about the back exercises even more. Also reckon you could make a video on leg press vs squats?
Happy this helped and yes I will add it to the list!!
aaaaaahh! I don't know why but I never thought about using smaller plates!!! thanks for that tip!!
Yates row is reverse grip, its always been reverse grip. In an interview, Dorian Yates explained why he preferred reverse grip saying it gave him a deeper pull.
Dorian has recommended an overhand grip since he tore his bicep with the reverse grip
after 9 yeas, i still love this dudes accent
Another great tip, bent over t bar rows work well using small 25 lb plates, it allows you a wider ROM and additional contraction. 🤘🏼
Um.. did you watch the video my friend? I did say that :-D
ScottHermanFitness sorry brotha, had to fast forward the last half so I missed it! Great tips on adjustment of where you're pulling too
I love T-Bar Rows, they just feel great when your are performing them and when you are finished. I love that you can safely use a lot of weight to overload the muscles.
I started doing T-bar rows for the first time this week. My max is six 45 pound plates at 3 reps. I am more comfortable doing 5 plates. I can do at least 8 and I'm already seeing more results than I ever did doing rows.
Thanks for clarification. I'll alternate these two exercises for back day.
Yeah, T bar rowl works much better. That’s why Arnold prefered this excersice than the other 1.
I liked how comprehensive this was
Yes! I have wanted this!
Well I am Happy to deliver!!!
ScottHermanFitness love T Bar and using a big stack of 25s
yeah.. unfortunately in my studio I only have 2 haha
ScottHermanFitness damn only two! Any time frame for the cheat and recover program?
ScottHermanFitness I was wondering why you only had 2 25s on the bar
i do both on back day, but i personally prefer the t-bar row over the bendover. good vid buh, very informative
Hey Scott! Do you think you could do a video comparing the different sweeteners in foods and supplements (sugar, aspartame, splenda, sucrose, glucose, fructose etc) Interested to know your thoughts on the positive and negatives of each
I can certainly add it to the list!
T-Bar row for me. Works like a beast isolating your back. I got a cheap T-bar row bar off amazon and I feel more burn than using your hands like you are doing at 1:49. Overall its probably good to switch up and use both.
Do Decline Press vs Chest Dips
will add it to the list!
You can use D-handles to extend the range of a Bent-over row, you also benefit from a medium or medium-to-wide semi-supine grip to hit the lower lats BUT also hit the rhomboid and you can also rest your upper chest on the back edge of a reclined bench, or simply be lying on it, and even use dumbells.
I do both of these on back day!.
Great video as always bro!!
Thanks Abe!! Means a lot! If you are ever in need of a new program be sure to check mine out! muscularstrength.com/Full-Workout-Programs
Cool Video Scott like always! I was just going to do back tomorrow so this video was really helpful. I'm going to do the T-Bar row for some serious muscle gain! Thank you and keep up the good videos!
+Joshua Duran yeah man and utilize that cheat and recover too!!!
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Twenty-five pound plates for more range of motion..... now that's clever!!!
I've been doing supersets, dropsets and the cheat recovery method for over 4 months on all my exercises and duuuude people been thinking I am on roids..Thank you so much Scott
Hey scott, Thanks for the great vid. Can you please suggest any exercises i could do at home with some weights to isolate the upper back? ie rhomboids, traps etc.
Just do some rows to your chest with dumbbells Jaspal! That will smash your upper back!
Have you checked out my 12 week home program? That will give you some ideas too! muscularstrength.com/12-Week-Home-Program
ScottHermanFitness I LOVE THAT YOU REPLY. THANKS. also I do not have access to a bench, so should I just do them standing up? Thanks again Scott. You and Jeff Cavaliere are my heros.
Dude, it’s freaking awesome how you explain how the muscle group works first then go into the workout variations. Great info! Appreciate it.
hey scott, what do you think about meadows row & one arm barbell row? are they effective for thickness?
For sure! I use them in my training as well
u just stand on one side of the bar and grab it for a row bro!
thank you, I was doing both. but now I'll just do the t-bar. I liked it much better anyway. a lot more natural
IMO the Bent Over Row builds a bigger Back, plus it increases your Deadlift and Pull up Strength.
Jerre Frazier Jr it doesnt increase your pull up strength, theyre completely different movements
why would a back movement increase your deadlift when the deadlift is performed with hip and leg drive?
Jorge Gonzalez no that is not correct anatomically. The role of the late are to "bring the humerus back into the body". Both movements of done correctly do both.
ScottHermanFitness the Bent Over Row adds stength to the pulling function on the deadlift. The longer ROM= more muscle activation
ScottHermanFitness also the bent over row engages your hamstrings, core, abs, traps, lats, biceps, and shoulders during the exercise. The T row engages more of the Biceps than Back. Pull ups with Weight hit the Back better than the T Row.
I do both. They are amazing. I can feel my back muscle moving
Hi Scott can I get a random pin because it's my birthday? 😁
No, but Happy Birthday anyways my bro!! :-D haha
ScottHermanFitness ahaha thanks!
Very nice! Especially since i didn’t know how to set up the t bar row!
Glad this video helped you!!!
Inspiration
thanks man!
Tbar row is my absolute favorite exercise
I like pendlay rows the most haha
yeah Pendlay Rows are awesome too!
i like them too but as for me best rowing is on some "machine" with support of torso because you can fully stretch at bottom and on the top you can have best contraction, ideally some kind of reverse shoulder blades bridge (and relaxed lumbar spine). although there are in game also traps and others i like the full contraction. but good machines for this are quite rare, most of them, including hs, are worse than just barbell alone...
I've been doing the T-bar row for 3 months and I much prefer it to the Bent over row. I don't enjoy the motion of the BOR and like how I can overload my back with the T-bar row.
dumbbel is the best imo :
-great range of motion
-you can progressive overload it with huge wieght
-safer for the back
I would suggest the Reverse Grip T Bar Row apparatus that has a pad connected to it that you can lean on. Some gyms have them and it's my favorite for a great lat and bicep workout.
if you really want to get the most outta that stretch from the tbar row get elevated enough that at full stretch the weight doesn't touch the floor, use bands, and have a slight rounding of the upper back. and for those who get wrist or shoulder problems from underhand rows buy some specialty bars if you like, something like; neutral grip, semi underhand or semi overhand, ezbar, rotational handle, or bars the provide a built in buffer (decrease rom to save the shoulders if youre already fucked), or use dumbbells or kettlebells.
+nope nope yeah elevation is great for that stretch man!! Nice!!
nope nope rounding nope
i always like first then i watch the video. because your videos and the way you present them in a positive way gives me all kinds of good information and feelings - u are amazing man keep doin what u do
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But I'm a lady!!!
Thanks for all the videos Scott. Love them! Deep insight and clear guidance.
Happy to help your gains my brotha!!! If you are ever in need of a new program be sure to check mine out! muscularstrength.com/Full-Workout-Programs
Can u make more back vids?
sure can! If you are ever in need of a new program be sure to check mine out! muscularstrength.com/Full-Workout-Programs
T Bar Row Is Great I Have Achieved Thich And Wide Back With This Excellent Movement
So I can do 20 pullups in a row, I am 150LBS but how come I can't use the pull down machine and pull down 150LBS once???
Pullups emphasize the rhombus muscles and lat pull down machine emphasizes the lats. It could also be a form thing. Crossfitters can do 100 "pull ups" in a row, but none of them would even engage the back. If you are kipping on your pullups then that's your problem right there. I would try to use an assisted pull up machine to see how much you can pull up with strict form (if you are kipping). Your assisted pull up weight should be similar to your lat pull down weight.
resop3 no kip what so ever I keep my legs completely straight I engage my core, retract my scap, use wide grip for lats and I pull straight to my chest
Well.. if you are doing pulldowns AFTER your pull-ups.. that would be why too. Pulldowns are a bit different.. for example, the weight is in front of you.. whereas with bodyweight pull-ups the weight is behind you. Don't be too concerned about it.. just keep working on building your strength in both areas and as Resop said, make sure there's no kipping so that you are using just your back.
ScottHermanFitness thanks for the advice now let me ask you this, in your honest opinion is it better to do 20-30 pull-ups with weight or 50-60 without sometimes I find myself doing 60 normal strict pull-ups 6 sets of 10 other times I find myself doing 50 pull-ups but variation such as Lsit, archer pull-ups that's sort of thing and other times I do 20-30 reps with weight. I know my back is strong because of the amount of pull-ups I can do with ease, but my my back doesn't exactly look like I can jump up on a bar and do 20 strict chest to par pull-ups
Another difference is that the pull down machine is close grip (at least the ones I use are). I have the opposite problem, my wide grip (arms in the same plane as the body) is less developed than my close grip (arms in front of the body). I can do 80 lbs on the pull down machine but only 60lbs on the wide grip cable pull down. However, it's all good. Just use the weight that you can maintain strict form on and eventually things will work out.
With Ehlers Danlos, I find much less injury potential in the tbar row at overload intensities than the barbell row!
Great video!
sir I am having headaches while working out please tell me some solution to this problem
everyone says u reply to most of the comments
rishabh gurwala Drink more water because you might be dehydrated
Brendan S bro i daily drinks at least 2 litre of water as nowadays I'm using creatine
rishabh gurwala breathe the right way. If you hold your breath your head will hurt after a while
Maybe you are not drinking enough water?
Thank you Scott for putting somuch effort into your videos :)
I do my best! Thanks for watching!!
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On my back day :)
+Mahatma Diandrasara yeah bro yeahhhhhhhhh!!! Get that back!!!!
Its funny coz i get your notifications while i was doing t-bar rows 😂
One of my favorite UA-camrs... Could you do one video about squats variations vs leg press variations please?!
Nice video bro..
Thanks man!!
I think the answer is BOTH!
-but alternate weeks when you do them, nothing wrong with exercising in that manner.
Scott, I smashed the like button on my phone and now my phone is cracked. Can I get a pin?
didn't go all the way through the phone????? no pin.. lol :-D
ScottHermanFitness shits expensive bro. Whatever it takes, right babe!?!