Dumbbell Shoulder Press VS Barbell Shoulder Press | WHICH BUILDS BIGGER SHOULDERS FASTER?
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Welcome to another instalment in my VERSUS SERIES! Last time we compared the Incline Barbell Bench Press VS. the Reverse-Grip Bench Press. If you didn’t see the article, you can check it out HERE. Today we are going to be comparing the BARBELL SHOULDER PRESS VS the DUMBBELL SHOULDER PRESS.
To begin this comparison, let’s first discuss the muscles that are primarily involved in both movements which are the anterior, middle & posterior deltoids. These muscles are responsible for shoulder abduction, shoulder flexion and shoulder extension. You will also be activating your triceps brachii and biceps brachii during each movement as well. Remember that your triceps assist in the pressing motion during the movement and are active throughout the full range of motion. For your biceps brachii, especially the short head, these muscles will act more like dynamic stabilizers throughout the movement.
Some other muscles involved that will act as stabilizers during the movement are your rotator cuffs, traps, lats, teres major and minor and rhomboids. You will also be activating all the muscles in your core, but how much activation you will have will change when doing the exercise standing versus seated. With that being said, in this article we are going to primarily focus on the seated version of both exercises, but I will still briefly mention some of the differences in muscle activation in the standing versions of each exercise at the end of the article.
Seated Barbell Shoulder Press
For this exercise, all you need is a bench and a rack (if you have one, you can also use a seat that is already in an upright position with back support). To get started, you’re going to sit down and keep your feet flat on the ground. If the bench you’re using has an option where you can put your feet on the pegs, I’d recommend doing that because you want to make sure that your butt and your back stay against the back pad throughout the entire range of motion. Anything you can do to ensure that you don’t slide forward throughout the movement is going to help you out. What happens when you start to slide forward too much is that you start to turn the movement into an incline barbell bench press. If you start in an upright position, but slowly slide forward to the point where you’re arching your back excessively and pushing the weight up, there’s no support for your lower back and you can severely injure yourself.
The reason why most people will slide forward is because they want to lift heavier weight, so just drop the ego, use the correct amount of weight, and you won’t risk injuring yourself. With all that being said, you do want to have a SLIGHT arch in your back, just make sure that your glutes are touching the bench and your shoulders are touching the bench. Once in place, you’re going to grab the barbell about 2 inches outside of shoulder width. If you grab too close as you do the movement, you’re going to be recruiting a lot more triceps into the exercise, and you don’t want to do that. Once your grip is correct, you’re going to unrack the weight and then once you have the bar over your head, you’re going to have to turn your elbows forward slightly. The reason is because if you were to keep the barbell where it was previously and bring it straight down, the bar will hit your head. By turning your elbows forward slightly, you can bring the barbell down to the top of your chest and yes, you’re doing full range of motion. After touching the top of your chest, you’re going to press the barbell back up, and lockout back at the top of the movement with the barbell OVER your head, not out in front of it.
Another thing you can do to keep this movement nice and fluid is you can keep your head up a little bit. You can tilt it up slightly and that will help make sure that as you bring the barbell down it doesn’t hit you in the face and when you press it back up, it won’t hit you in the chin. Keep these things in mind when doing this exercise, and you’ll have proper form!
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He starts to answer the question here: 5:44
Thanks !
Thank you man..
Jers Compilations bless u son
lmao attaa boy
thanks mans you saved me a precious 5 mins :43 seconds
Yeah I did some bahbell pressed and then I got my haircut at the bahber shop and got drunk at the bah
stupid x2😂😂
Did you tip the bahtendah
My favorite nursery rhyme is “Bah bah black sheep”.
HAHAHAHAH
Why does this guy talk like that haha
Thank you very much Scott! Your videos are informative and personally inspiritional too. Keep them coming 👍🏾
Great video on elaborating both with their pros and cons.... looking forward to more of this series
Thanks Robert! more coming for sure!
Love the fact you go into loads of detail in these videos, gain so much knowledge from your channel, keep it up! :D
glad you like these vids.
Thank you for talking about the pain section. My shoulder got messed up years ago in a lacrosse game and it's going to be messed up forever but doesn't have to stay weak forever. No one seems to talk about what to do when you have some type of injury like that and what to do instead. Thanks man
sorry to hear that Matt.. this video will help you too: ua-cam.com/video/OENxC3bgAEs/v-deo.html
Great video as always. Love how detailed you explain it and also good job on the video editing, transitions where fluid and well timed to help really gain the most of this video!
thanx bro!
This video was more than helpful to me and I appreciate everything that was covered. Thank you!
Overhand barbell row VS Underhand barbell row.
YES!!!!!!
Same difference as with pull-ups and chin-ups.
Chin-ups and underhand rows will work your biceps more, while pull-ups and overhand rows will work your brachioradialis more.
+Evoo you can also move more weight since your grip is better underhand
just works more your biceps,,,tho chinups activate more your upper-inner lats
when you doing both, you will see than underhand is like a drag curl which hits the long head of biceps. check the drag curl exercise. their dynamics are really similar. So overhand will offer more back engagement. If you struggle to grip the bar during the movement, arrange the angle of your torso accordingly.
1) Uploaded on my shoulder day, perfect timing
2) a fitted stringer? Blowing my mind with that thing Scott lol
1) You're welcome :-D
2) I love this stringer! I have it in red as well. It is from LASC
Love detailed explanation of how and what works..very helpful, thank you!
Love these videos bud, super helpful. I love how you break it down and look at it from different perspectives.
Thanks bro! They take a lot of time to make, but I really enjoy teaching you guys new stuff!
wtf is baaba and dumba press?
hehehehe
Something wrong with your fuckin ears? He says bahbell and dumbbells.
When the Bostonians threw the British tea back into the water, they also accidentally threw in the letter R. That is why people from Boston are completely unable to pronounce the letter R in any word.
Here's my previous few sentences in Bostonian.
When the Bostonians threw the Baahdish tea back into the waadaah, they also accidentally chucked in the lettaah AHH. That is why people faahm Boston ahh completely unable to paahnounce the letter AHH in any waahhd.
Notice how they would have to say 'chuck' instead of 'threw'? This is because someone from Boston is completely unable to say such a word. Their mouth would literally bleed even attempting it.
Bretton Stano - I can't stop laughing at your comment. :-)
Lol
Some of the most informative fitness videos on the internet in this series. Really great work Scott!
thanx for the positive feedback bro!
Thanks for the great video man. It's great seeing all the research and work you put into these. Thanks again!
Yet another Scott Herman video packed with information. Great stuff!
This was real helpful thanks ! I had heard that before, regarding it being better to perform it while standing. One can use dumbbells to correct strength and muscle imbalance as well. So standing dumbbell seems to be the best choice overall, with some barbell change now and then for variation.
Also : good tip right at the end, as I'm having a left shoulder issue right now, so I'll definitely be giving the neutral grip a go during my shoulder session tomorrow night 👌
Scott is a great dude. Thanks!
You are very welcome bro!! Would love to have you join our online community too! It's free! www.MuscularStrength.com!
You are the guy who made me realise my mistakes and helping me to get a proper direction on my way to achieve a proper aesthetic look.. Thank u bro. always thankful to u..
This are real advices on -how to do-, to the point he is breaking down all the information of the muscles activated in each exercise and how to perform them correctly preventing injuries. I like a lot these videos and this versus series are very rich information. Thanks and congratulations!!
Thanks man! Means a lot brotha!
This guy and Athlean-X are literally the only real guys out there.
Buff Dudes...
OmarIsulf, Alan Thrall and Eliott hulse too
if elliot actually did good videos nowadays
True
Kali Muscle
Do leg press vs biceps curl
only if you upload a video of you bicep curling on the leg press first :-D
@@ScottHermanFitness lmao😂
Thanks for breaking it down for us Scott. Bring on the gains!
Love the amount o detail in that Versus series. Congratulations Scott, and thank you!
"ON THIS BAAAA"
haha
you forgot the H! BAHHHHHHH! ;-D
This guy makes best videos about workout, trust me! :D
agreed!
Thanks bro! Means a lot!
Thanks for this video, you covered all the points and more for what I was looking for ✌️
Love these advices. Thank you a lot, I was looking for this information since forever...
Love this series! Can you do one one lunges? Back vs forward vs stiff leg
added to the list!
Dumbbells are most beneficial for aesthetic purposes, more muscle damage, less chances of injury. barbell version to help do other pushing exercises. Got it! thnx man, u da best !
Pretty good way to sum it up, thanks pal!
mo ANDthe beast hmm no? They are both equally good at muscle damage and build up, barbell just target less the posterior deltoids, barbell is really good to gain mass and strength dumbells for muscle definition. If you have shoulder injury look at alternative workouts for deltoids aslong as you do the exercice with right form barbell wont magically fuck you up.
@St. Petersberg can overload easier with barbell
@Michael Davis Do it one arm at a time that way you use both arms to get the weight into start position.
lots and useful information as usual Scott, thank you for sharing. ..
looking solid by the way
Thanks Cesar! Been training hard lately. Feels good to be back on track with my goals!
Great video. I just got my dusty barbell out this weekend to incorporate it into my exercise routines and saw this. I'm going to do both so hopefully I will benefit from both dumbbell and barbell.
"but before we got stahted.."
lol cracked me up
Thanks Scott for another great and informative video! I did not know that the dumbbell shoulder press recruits more muscle in different areas of the shoulder as compared to the barbell shoulder press. I prefer standing dumbbell press because it feels more athletic and requires core activation and stabilization.
+Danny Adams happy to help bro. I hope these videos keep giving you guys the tips you need to maximize your gains in the gym. Keep training hard bro!!!
i really like how you actually name and show the muscles.
Nice job with your videos, I appreciate the explanations and the delivery.
Latpulldown vs pullups! Good video Scott
yuppppp pls
Both. Start with pullups ( 5-7 sets) then go into lat pulldown straight afterwards (4 to 5 sets). Works great for me.
I feel pull ups are better but both are great exercises
Do them both
Added to the list!!!!!!
1:30 am, never too late for some gains
An experienced and informative shoulder work-out video covering perhaps all aspects of shoulder muscle recruitment. Thanks for sharing Scott!
You are very welcome Ronnie! Thanks for the support!
Very informative. Thanks for all of the info on both of these exercises. Thanks for uploading this helpful video.
That shirt is doing him NO favors
Ellen Joan it looks awkward as hell
Looks like he’s about to do ballet.
true
Hu
Did my best to REALLY dig deep into these exercises to make sure you guys get the right information. As you can tell, they take A LOT of editing.. but totally worth it if it helps you with your gains! If you have a suggestion for the next VERSUS SERIES leave a comment below! and if you want to show your support for these amazing videos, sign-up for my 12 week transformation challenge an take your gains to the next level! :-D muscularstrength.com/twelve-week-transformation-challenge
+KDuB9I6 check out Omar Isuf's channel too, he had a video recently about some accessory workouts to the squat. At least until Scott posts something similar to what your looking for!
yeah that is a good idea, especially because 99% of the woman at my gym do all their butt exercises wrong... :/
Appreciate all your hard work.
'Thanks Paul!
How deep did you dig to use that fake accent? I think your videos are great, informative and very useful. But why are you doing the fake accent thing?
Awesome information that I needed to hear. Thanks so much!!
Great information bro. Thanks for taking the time and making the videos.
BAAAAHBELL
lool :-D
bah bell
haha
Thank you so much for the helpful tips. I'm taking my NASM CPT Exam next week and your videos make it so much easier to understand than the book!
I bet you are going to crush your test bro!! If you ever want to learn more, join us on my site! The forums have lots of great information! www.MuscularStrength.com/forums
Great video! I appreciate you addressing those of us prone to shoulder injury.
awesome! glad you liked it.
bahbell
TheLambientTwinkie g
stupid😂
TheLambientTwinkie pmsl it never gets old lol every vid i watch of his i always laugh at the BAAAABELL
Dumbbell flies vs. cable flies
id believe he'd say something along the lines of Jeff Cav..... "DONT DO DUMBBELL FLYES"
Arnold Schwarzenegger said one of the top three exercises to do is dumbbell flys lol
+Andrew Trudeau not sure if you're joking but anyways dumbell flies are great as long as you do them properly.
Dumbbell. Far better squeeze of the pecs
YES
Thanks for the in-depth, and very practical, commentary.
you are very welcome Luis!! Keep training hard! Would love to have you join our online community too! It's free! www.MuscularStrength.com!
I really like how you clear it all up in the end. cheers, Scott!
Thanks bro!! Do my best to help you guys out!
How about dumbbell lateral raise vs cable lateral raise?
added to the list!
Basically, unless its a squat or deadlift, dumbbells>barbells
might be true
I read that there was a study that showed more gains for barbell bench press compared to dumbell bench press.
Not true at all lol, BB standing overhead press is always gonna be better than a seated DB press
Progressive overload is easier on barbells due to being able to make smaller increases with 2.5lb and lower plates. As well, barbells are easier to set up in the proper position with the use of a power rack. But dumbbells will give a better range of motion.
The real answer: Use both.
Damn if that were true then my 3 heads wouldn't be developed if all I did was standing OHP!
Really nice tips Scott, been following since my first day on 2011. Finally I know the answer why my shoulder finally hurt during barbell overhead press.
Lets keep the natural gainz 🤙
What a great video Scott. Incredible. Great information.
what if i do both?
You'll have aneurism's
Man I feel you’re going WAY too deep especially on that dumbbell press. With barbell shoulder press when you bring it all the way down you lose tension on the heads and start putting major strain on tendons and rotator cuff. I’ll always go to parallel and just go slow
Great video and explanation! Thanks so much for sharing!
Super informational. Awsome video man
It kills me when I go to the gym and I see literally nobody do this with full RoM. It's always down to 90 degrees if that and then back up. Eats me up too as they throw on lots of weight (135-185 usually).
Close Grip Bench Press vs. Tricep Pushdown (I'm pretty sure the Pushdown works all three heads of the tricep, so that seemed logical to me)
Great video as always!
meh why not,if its used for bodybuilding and not powerlifting,using partials is fine. Some people feel their muscles more that way.
+PrimeFitness that is ignorant dude. How do you "feel it more" when you skip out on MORE muscle activation by not going full range of motion? It just doesnt make sense and all you are doing is creating weakness in the areas you don't train.
added to the list!@
+ScottHermanFitness as i said,strengh weakness dont matter if you just want to build muscle,and depending on which part of the lift you are only using,theres more time under tension with partials. Locking out on Press exercises usually will require little to no chest or shoulder,only triceps. However if you dont lockout on all your reps,your chest or shoulders will remain in constant tension without resting.
why do you care so much on how others do their exercises? you should just be focused on yourself and your own workout when you go to the gym, not others
How the fuck did Scott know today is my shoulder day?
Same
Natural or roids?
Who still wastes time in the gym with just "shoulder" day lol. Chest day on Monday too? Lol
+Roof1975 What?
+Eric Escobedo Basically he is saying that you are an idiot if you only tain 1 muscle group per day
+Andres Mendez I dont though. today was back and shoulders day.
Great video as always, Scott!! Thanks for doing what you do.
You are very welcoem Josh!! Have you joined our community yet and made a free profile? Lots of great info! :-D www.MuscularStrength.com
Very lucid and very helpful. Thumbs up
An OHP with a barbell should have a straight bar path. You should move your body (head) around the bar. Not the other way around
I cringe every time he pulls the bar behind himself after locking out...
+White Ninja yeah I'm thinking the same thing . that's and injury waiting to happen as you go up in weights
Yeah one rep too far back and your shoulders are gone
Yeah he seems to be pushing it too far back, it looks like a jerk, not a press. To my eyes, anyway. Scott obviously has reasons to do them that way, but they don't look like presses. Imo.
Scott, I'm getting certified as a PT and you can't imagine how I value your videos and explanations. You're so wise and I love complementing my studies with the info you share in your channel. Keep on the good work!
Absolutely great knowledge and teaching. Thank you
This video reallly helped me, sooooo glad for the VS series
Thanks bro!! more coming! Leave those suggestions!
I will bro! :) u have an awesome day man!
Front squat vs High back squat vs low back squat
vs sumo squat
Hasn't he done front squats vs back squats already?
BOOM!! already did dude!!!!!!!!! ua-cam.com/video/SikPnfUDMxs/v-deo.html
but how do you set up for standing dumbbells.
Great video!! Keep them coming!!
I really enjoy these vs series videos! SO much to learn!!!
Thanks brotha! more coming! Leave those suggestions!
why do i feel like you're forcing that boston accent?
Exactly I watched his vids from 2011 he sounds totally different
Made it even funnier with Sound manager Realtek HD Karaoke mode +4/-4 ... :D
+Yara Hejazi you're deaf you can hear his normal accent come through in this
I came down here to see if anyone else noticed that!!
Jers Compilations iv noticed it and its fair annoying becuase it sounds fake. i picked this video to watch because it mentions Baaabell
i actually can lift more with the dumbell version, its quite strange.
Daniel Chachanashvili same here
Daniel Chachanashvili I'm guessing instability from the barbell
Your back is lagging behind
elaborate
If anything, just gotta train more on the Barbell version some more, your muscles aren't used to the weight and shoulders staying in place, I was able to get up to 75lb dumbbells, but could barely do the barbell with 10lbs on each side at first, after a few weeks, I am now back up to at least 135lb Barbell standing shoulder press
Wow. Thank you for doing the research. This video is gold to me.
your comparison videos are awesome...
Scott im 46 years old and i also having been lifting for years the wrong way and the wrong attitude .i wish i also new and heard this video when i was 14 when i started by now i would have looked like these juiced up physique guys by now doing it naturally with time like a fine wine . I saw you in person at the w in nyc and thought that guy looks fit and still looks great in clothes ,so at 46 im being inspired by young guys like your self ,which ive always felt that the young with the right attitudes always find better ways to evolve on everything ,thanks sooo much pointing out the bullshit about these physique guys on juice and creating a false image that most of us cant achieve in a healty way ,i like that you talk about Mind, body and Soul ,that you have to be first and formost happy with your self and love your self because then these crazy physique guys dont determine what your supposed to look like ,im not saying that they also dont put in hard work and give it a 110% because they do ,they really do ,its a life style and i respect them for it ,but that is not the norm for everyone and peiple have to be able to be happy with them selves to except real and healty progress with living a everyday normal life. That has to be the first step mentally to go into fitness first before anything and you bring that !!!
which one does sheep prefer? baaahhhhhbell
Amazing video. Thanks so much Scott
Great video, informative as always! Thanks Scott!
Thanks Laura! Would love to have you join our online community too! It's free! www.MuscularStrength.com!
so if I want both strength and mass, should I do both the exercises standing?
definitely!
Any tips for people with loose shoulder joints who injure them easily?
rotator cuff training maybe
There are a variety of shoulder stability warmup/exercises you need to be doing before every chest/shoulder workout. Behold the power of google. Or talk to your doctor about a physical therapist so you prevent needing surgery. Labrum repair surgery is awful.
really a deep study you are giving for us , thanks a lot for the videos and keep doing.....
That is absolutely Superb advice. Great video.
T-bar row vs Barbell row
+Jake Parker oh I like this one. Havent done a back one yet!
+ScottHermanFitness Yeah, like in terms of creating most mass and thickness in the back which would be best, should do a video! :)
you got it!
Great advice, what about behind the head?
Save your shoulders, they'll thank you.
by it's perfect for mobility
by it's perfect for mobility
Beyond Fitness Not really, especially if you it with heavy weights. Many people avoid doing it because they don't have proper mobility and get pain the in the shoulder.
Well then, don't go heavy
thanks Scott. The video is awesome and exactly what I was looking for!
Happy to help Ranjeet!!! Would love to have you join our online community too! It's free! www.MuscularStrength.com!
Awesome video and informations, thanks a lot!
I dont own a barbell so dumbbells it is.
i swear the boston accent was never this thick, or am i losing my mind
It's ridiculous and kind of annoying but it's free info so I guess just deal with it
+tite732 haha I'm not complaining, just made me laugh a bit. Baaabell
I explained my accent in my 800,000 subscribers video.. check it out :-D
+Russell Darch it's not so much the accent but the fact that he use to speak regular English before lol.
love the vs stuff thanks man
Thanks Ivan!
Once again, very informative !! Thanks Scott.
You are very welcome brotha!!!
Why don't you just do both????
+Jake Parker why dont you watch the damn video before leaving a comment that is answered in the video :-D
too much
+ScottHermanFitness too far bro
+ScottHermanFitness Yep! You addressed Jake's question mid video.
+ScottHermanFitness I wasn't hating, I'm a subscriber, I had written that before watching the whole video and as its a comparison video didn't think you were going to touch on that
lol. scotts accent is real pronounced here
superb video Scott...thank you, really informative.
Thanks so much Tom! Doing my best to help with those gains!!! Would love to have you join our online community too! It's free! www.MuscularStrength.com!
Underhand Grip vs Overhand Grip for the Barbell Bent-Over Row.
Both have their place as both hand grips recruit different muscle groups brotha use both
Jonathan I've always been taught that a supinated grip (underhand) is best for lay activation. I usually do a superset of both grips though @6-8 reps each.
Scott Herman fitness vs Kali Muscle
Who is stronger. BAP BAP BAABELL
I think comparing me to a known juicehead is kinda lame... lol
+ScottHermanFitness BRO I like you u keep it real ... With real advice ... U will do well on UA-cam. Good job!
Your VS is great keep it going!!!!!!
Good day! Sir Scott Herman, i always follow what you did in the video and the results is great. Thank you & Godbless
Did he say baaabell? Lol
noo.. you forgot the H! BAHHHBELL! :-D
+ScottHermanFitness oh twue! Lol keep it the good work Scott!