To transform child welfare, take race out of the equation | Jessica Pryce
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- Опубліковано 6 жов 2024
- In this eye-opening talk about the impact of race and neighborhood on foster-care decisions, social worker Jessica Pryce shares a promising solution to help child welfare agencies make bias-free assessments about when to remove children from their families. "Let's work together to build a system that wants to make families stronger instead of pulling them apart," Pryce says.
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Yes 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 “Let’s create a system that wants to make families stronger instead of pulling them apart”
Ted talks, but does Ted ever listen🤔😔
I think the argument to be made is Ted allows others to talk and facilitates a way for other people to listen to those people who come to talk. Whether that fits the definition of listening or not is debatable.
Ted by nature is just a stuffed animal that people come and talk to while being filmed via camera. Ted by nature will always be a liberal bear. Because the goal is showing the entire world talks that further humanity as a species. I don't know what right wingers really expect from Ted....by nature he is designed to disappoint them but they keep expecting he won't. Let's get TEd's cousin Ed in here, Ed talks, designed around a populist approach of 1 group over the other politics. Well that's not really fair for me to say, but right wing these days = populist, pure bred right wingers shouldn't have any inherent issue with ted talks...they shouldn't be threatened by ideas.
Hey Ted, could you link sources in the description. Would help a lot with raising the quality of arguments.
Ted is not a source of information, is about people giving ideas
If you want sources you need to go and ask the speakers about the sources or look for them yourself
I'm not attacking you, I'm just telling you that ted was never about info as much as it is about ideas
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@@MechanicWolf85 yeah, but if the talkers just linked the studies the reference, it would make things way easier. And it is nearly no extra work for them. For most people Ted is a UA-cam thing, not talks given in real life, and then that would be useful. Especially fot students as a starting of point.
They most likely will not and you will need to dig further and find out yourself on the internet u might be surprised by the study better than the video imo
+DarkFlame ShadowNinja
Link to study? =P
"Blind Removal"
This is amazing and would make all the difference in the world to a lot of people. 🏆
Wait are you saying we should remove all blind people? O.o
Unfortunately blind removal has proven to be unsuccessful over the long run. Check out the data in Nassau County, where the approach was touted. Disproportionality continues to be very high.
I was thinking 'oh god' when she mentioned subconscious racist bias but that was actually quite a pertinent well put forward (perhaps proven) example. And most importantly a beginning of a solution.
Treestump Amen
Nigel Reed i think it is important for people to understand that subconscious discrimination does happen and anyone even you or me can fall prey to it regardless of our best intentions. However i don't think it is helpful for people to demonise and attack people who have fallen prey to subconscious discrimination (like social justice warriors often do, unlike social justice activists) because most people who do fall prey to it have the very best intentions and can get defensive. I personally do not know how we can confront these sorts of prejudices, because many people will get defensive, it is difficult to see because it is subconscious and it is difficult to remove because it is subconscious. I personally worry that i am subconsciously prejudiced, but i do try to stop myself being so if i can. I think one thing that could be helpful is to change media coverage on minority groups, but i'm just some random guy on the internet, and i don't know
Treestump that's interesting, hadn't heard of such tests. Where did you find it so i could possibly do one or look into them to see how reliable they are
Treestump thanks, will check it out
I am on the right and I agree blind removals sound good, black and white case workers must be honest though or they are harming the children and they could be accountable for what happens to the children in this life and maybe the next (If you believe in that).
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I would agree in principle. However, this video is the equivalent of a sound bite. How have the children involved within the Nassau county example, faired in comparison to those elsewhere ? Is the difference attributable to the difference in practices ? Wasn't this video about implied bias ?
Amazing discovery and a great story! I don't think I could ever do this job simply because I feel like my heart would break seeing some people live in such poor conditions. And to add on top of that the fact that I would be biased and separate the family just because of the race... That is even worse.
But having a friend who works in child services, she is sometimes so angry with the system that has many flaws, such as deciding to not take children out of horrible families because there is not enough evidence.
HUMAN RACE.
"Race is a concept that was INVENTED to categorize the perceived biological, social and cultural differences between human groups," said Harvard professor Evelynn Hammonds. "Race is a human invention."
Martin Luther King, Jr. Quotes. I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.
She says take race out out of it but this was all about race, specifically one color vs a second color - as if there are only two colors.
No. There was no attack against any races, here. It was a talk about removing racial bias altogether. And it was after proven results.
cant cure stupid. you'll just have to stay that way.
Great presentation. Let's be thankful that they are doing this work. It's so easy for people to comment here. Listen up and learn something.
Mal Taumoha'apai the only thing to learn is she is just pushing her racist agenda
Devon Tracey's "Racism of the Gaps"
TBucker It's Wacist!!
fucking love AIU. His style of video is epic.
Are there any links to these references she is using, particularly the blind removal data 5 years down from 57% to 21% for black children?
Amazing. This is very relevant throughout the world. I’m in Australia and the blind removals process should be implemented here. First nationals Australians are overrrepresented in foster care and juvenile detention, as are African Australians and Pasifika Australians!
I think a lot of places naturally push minorities into positions of poverty. People in poverty have a tendency to commit more crimes, and when its people of this racial background committing a large number of crimes, their backgrounds disregarded, it looks like a racial problem. My state Oklahoma has one of the highest native populations in the country, of course also one of the highest drug incarceration and lowest income places in the country. We have a different problem, where we imprison more women then all other places(that register it) on earth.
Theres a lot of factors that go into these situations, racism created a socio-economic divide between races, that divide caused crime to grow, breeding more racism. This racism caused a more standoffish and violent bender in a lot of youth black culture, which breeds more racism. When I say it breeds racism, I mean on both sides. its this circle of socioeconomic bullshit feeding into racism and vice versa. The millennials, and gen Z, might be the generations to start reversing this trend.
The foster care system messes a lot of kids up, I would know, I was in a mental institution and met quite a few. Also they told us they used the institutions as a half way house for the kids when they didnt want to deal with them, or had nowhere else for them. That wasnt the kids saying that, that was staff. I think the blind evaluations will help keep kids out of the system more often, but it's only a small sub problem of the clusterscrew that is socioeconomic driven racism in America.
The lie peddled is that these broken children are the result of a dysfunctional government.....when the truth is that it is a result of broken families. Their is no psychological substitute for a thoughtful mother and father. Men have become trash, and women have fallen to meet that....thank you atheism and moral relativism
There are more white poor people in the US than there are black poor people, so whats your fucking point ??
@@dimebagmetott666 well thats not factually accurate and itd be pretty hard to determine what you even mean. I would say on average predominately black communities have higher rates.
the richest black area View-Park Windsor Hills,CA has a higher crime rate than the poorest white area Beattyville,KY
Jordon Hodges,
If atheism was responsible for the increase in broken families, you would expect there to be more broken families where the parents are atheists.
All the evidence shows that exactly the opposite is true.
Atheists have much fewer divorces, much fewer teenage pregnancies, commit much less crime, and have a much larger average income. All these contribute to having a healthy and stable family, unlike belief in a magical daddy in the sky.
Irrational beliefs lead to bad decision. This includes family and parenting related decisions.
What an eye opener. Problem/solution. Would love to see other states adopt this.
Removing race out of the equation ? Sure, good idea. But the neighborhood ? How is that irrelevant ? When I grew up, my parents let my brother and I wander alone unsupervised for kilometers around the house.
Had we lived in a sketchy neighborhood instead of the country, the behaviour would have been irresponsible instead of being good parenting. The neighborhood can mean everything. Considering how parents should behave.
Definitely an eye opener and perception changer. Thank you 🙏
So the blind removal reduced removal bias based on demographics. The important question to ask has to be was this in the best interest of the child? That is what needs to be addressed here, not the basic idea of bias.
It sounds like it, per force, reduces removal based on useful information -- they have to sanitize so much to remove potential for bias that the information left MUST be incomplete.
“High numbers of black kids going into foster care”. Well madam, if one thing is true it is the fact that more black children are born into single mother homes and more black children are raised in communities where fathers are near non-existent. The issues isn’t the child welfare system, but the welfare system that is in need of a complete overhaul. Stop rewarding single family households and start rewarding complete family structures.
It actually sounds like that's more in tune with what she wants to do eventually. Focus on the situations and circumstances - such as the family structure and available opportunities, and not just the popular social barriers of today (ethnicity, location, etc). By starting here, with "Blind Removal", it helps get the "system" refocused to start seeing the root problems instead of just making quick decisions based on census statistics. Sort of like putting blinders on a horse - the horse is more cooperative because it isn't getting scared or distracted as much.
I think this is also where her mention of AI and machine-learning comes in. They sound like buzzwords until you realize the entire reason people make decisions based on zip codes and ethnicity is because it's genuinely easier and quicker than doing the thorough research. Having AI do some heavier analysis where people tend to get lazy can help produce higher quality results, potentially.
That easy. Way to go OP
How about we stop penalizing children for the shortcomings of their parents and by the way, society as a whole? Welfare is not a “reward.”
I don't know how to take what the OP said... Welfare should only be for complete families, or should be made to only help complete families? I.E. Mother, father, child\children?
Gotta say I've know many mothers that had become single because of abusive relationships, and it seems more than the OP thinks.
Heck my mother and father split because of sexual abuse that involved my father and older sister... And little sisters too.
But that would make my mother single, and I feel you would be happy to know that my family NEVER received help because we lived in Mississippi and the "Good ol' boy" system favored my father, and after we had to leave the women's shelter had to right back to the monster because of lack of help.
Years later in another state my siblings and I ended up in foster care. So I'm not crying on, I'm just saying that the OP is going about is assessment with how he feels and thinks and not realty.
My family got what you said was good, and was overlooked in the process. A surprising amount of the kids who came to the house I lived while on respite would talk about backgrounds similar to mine.
Galloe Thank you for sharing your REAL experiences. You show a level of resilience not everyone has. People get so caught up in ideology they forget that real people are involved. People are messy. They don’t alway fit into neat statistics. For me it comes down whether you believe that ALL kids are deserving of a certain level of care, regardless of whether they’re parents are providing it.
Race is never in the equation, you are putting it in
It's easy to tell the people who wrote comments WITHOUT listening to the end 😏 Implicit bias anyone?
The idea of blind removal is a great idea! Race should have no impact on weather or not the state decides if a parent/parents aren't worthy of having kids and takes them away.
Does blind removal prevent people to judge based on previous offense and therefore don't take into account the cumulative abuse? Race is not automatically the cause of everything.
This needs to be done everywhere, not just with child welfare.
If you like making decisions with little information
@@jahenders you're a fool if you think race makes any difference.
I think you should have titled this single mother welfare
Spoiler alert she's describing a white home. Now ima finish the rest if this cause it's that obvious they wanted us to think "their black"
That said we really need to take race out of it and give everyone an equal opportunity to get help.
"they're", not their.
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You didn't watch the video did you?
Her example does not take racial biases out of the equation because the worker who goes into the home still has biases, and those biases will come through in the report unless there is an intense training that instructs workers how to write or give a report that contains only facts and nothing else But I do think it's a very good start.
She didn't provide proof the kids were being abused. She just said the kids have a bed, the kids have a roof over their heads and only issue was them lacking enough food maybe? If the bias of the system is the problem, by all means remove that from it but that family didn't sound bad enough (with THAT description) to be removed . People all over the world have much worse conditions than that.
We all know people have drugs and guns no matter what their ethnic background is, but it is fairly well stated in statistics that some ethnic backgrounds are more heavily dependent on illicit activity than others. Regardless of how this came to be, when a family is deemed dangerous it will have to do with where their income comes from, and what that means for the childrens environment, and if statistics show that one ethnic group is more violent then it doesnt sound "wrong" if these ethnic groups are more often deemed unfit to raise children.
Not only that, but IF children are left where it is dangerous for them, this is more dangerous for those childrens future. It doesnt matter what statistics show when someone looks at a situation and sees if it is dangerous, they have no choice but to make another statistic.
If you take out neighborhoods, you should question whether that is reasonable. All data points to blacks self segregating and building high crime low skill environments. Clearly, it's in the interest of the child, the actual intent of the intevention and long term integration to see more black kids in foster homes.
Wait, so she’s arguing that CPS should become less racist and leave more black kids in high risk situations?
Treestump Right, but her argument was that the racial inequity led to the advantage afforded to white kids to remain in a high risk situation. That is the opposite of an advantage. But that assumes that all the situations were identical. What if the black kids had a greater frequency of being observed in higher risk scenarios? The lecturer does not provide data on this point but instead uses a silly story to attempt to guilt the audience into believing that they are too biased to question her argument.
"When a race has a history with a different race, many hold that history against them, even if they do things differently"
And don't get me wrong... I love the idea, but imho changing 1 side of a coin doesn't automatically change the other one...
Beautiful. Excellent Jessica Pryce💗
In Australia we have the opposite problem... Aboriginal kids get removed far later and experience far worse abuse before they are removed into care. It's almost like we bend over backwards to avoid racism, and this ends up allowing kids to be even more traumatised.
This is pretty excellent. This system could potentially shift the entire landscape of welfare and race-based poverty.
A really good idea.
Okay, how about this, instead of complaining just work hard. Just like I had to do for 25 years
Why does that woman havd 4 kids of she can't maintain them?
I thought that the correlation between implicit bias and actual behavior was scientifically debunked.
Wait, how do you test for implicit bias if there is no behaviour difference associated with it? Genuinely curious
When would a black person have a conversation without talking about race?
I hate the ppl that come into your house to take your kids or see if your kids are alright because 99% of the time they are wrong
Sound to me like she has VERY poor judgement. Bring 4 children into this world and have no way to support them .
Then you run your mouth about bias . I don't give a damn if the woman is black or white or whatever . Keep your legs together until you find a partner that loves you and help support the children you conceive.
What she's advocating is contradictory to identity politics? Why are there so many dislikes?
because she calls everybody I implicit racist. also I placed a dislike because I think that the neighborhood should matter (also the neighborhood has nothing to do with race, so her hole argument goes kinda down the toilet).
Ben Holz In which part of the video did she call everyone an implicit racist? I think she said implicit bias
bias against a race is racism. it is just a different term because the race card is overused. bias can be used in different context but in this one it clearly means raceism.
U WOT M8
HUMAN RACE.
"Race is a concept that was INVENTED to categorize the perceived biological, social and cultural differences between human groups," said Harvard professor Evelynn Hammonds. "Race is a human invention."
Martin Luther King, Jr. Quotes. I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.
It’s also known that black families are given less financial funds to foster children
Thank you!!!
There are serious questions that need to be addressed and from my experience, they are not touched because of the threat of being perceived as "wrong". If a person lives in poverty, should they have multiple children? Is free birth control, contraception, and pregnancy prevention education available? These are "right" questions! I would like to read some feedback.
The nuts never address this
An informative and enlightening Ted Talk!
"Justice is blind not heartless"
Issue with this is it’s that every dark skinned person I know forcefully put race into the equation Neither I nor any of my white friends have
I was thinking how she didn’t talk about relying on welfare and what not
But the blind evaluation was a good idea.
But why she slip in AI all of a sudden, I love earth but man I just trust humanity with AI. ( it could just be movies and video game that put this fear in me but.. anything possible) plus the more technology and automation the less jobs.
3:05 Yes. All children deserve to live in a home that is not infested with rats. If the mother did her best and failed to care for her children, that's sad.
All people should have the opportunity to be employed at a fair wage. The state should provide a social safety net and decent housing for those who need it. But when these things don't happen, it's not about what the mother "deserves", as if her pride is more important than other people's lives. It's about ensuring the well-being of the children. Leaving children in a rat-ridden slum with someone who cannot provide for them would be worse than breaking up a family.
No it isn't lol the state should do all it can to place her in adequate living to keep them together. Taking children away causes a high amount of harm to both the children and the parents. Especially when its racially biased. Also foster care is fucking terrible and they don't even keep track of the kids after the first foster home.
Casos que nem sempre tomamos conhecimento
Relevant part at 5:00
just sat through a training that she presented, she is a victim promoting racist
@Puna Sutto 😎 you Are Right
Is it possible to observe the children at play and interview them while the parents are there as well as privately with a variety of open ended questions? If u are a child advocate, u will make this a law. I will be implementing this. Any other ideas on helping the children have a voice?
Hey Ted. Anytime you want to talk about inequality come to my job and I'll show you all the minority people that got promoted not because of their skill but because the color of their skin.
I'm so tired of this race-baiting it's so old already.
@Treestump no I hear just fine it's the same message if you're white you have an advantage if your black disadvantage.
I told you that's an old song that everybody heard already nobody wants to hear it no more be the American people are tired of it.
@Treestump what do you think there's a hundred and ninety-five dislikes almost half I think we all got the same message
dude he stated his opinion as contrary to urs and stated he's american. ur wasting ur time
preach🙌
Numbers, out of nonexistent research, or without rigourous parameters, like how do you measure what situation is worse or better?
I don't understand because i don't know english😢😢😢who's i can??? Please
Google translate?
Dack Hacksaw that's right!! But i can't use it because i don't use how😢
Jason Z i want know!!
Thank you for this talk and for all that you do for the most vulnerable. Unfortunately, no surprises here. We have much to do in all areas to achieve a post-racial society. Even the nicest people with the best intentions can harbor implicit bias.
Is that all you got?
We have racial equality it’s that people blame their shortcomings on everyone else and that my good sir, is pathetic
Yea build victims instead of go getters
grey head You are entitled to your opinion. I don’t think the facts back you up. But I respect your opinion.
Ricky 18 lol what? Please write out a complete thought if you want me to respond in kind
"I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it.
In my youth I travelled much, and I observed in different countries,
that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they
provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the
contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer.
There is no country in the world where so many provisions are
established for them; so many hospitals to receive them when they are
sick or lame, founded and maintained by voluntary charities; so many
alms-houses for the aged of both sexes, together with a solemn general
law made by the rich to subject their estates to a heavy tax for the
support of the poor. Under all these obligations, are our poor modest,
humble, and thankful; and do they use their best endeavours to maintain
themselves, and lighten our shoulders of this burthen? On the contrary, I
affirm that there is no country in the world in which the poor are more
idle, dissolute, drunken, and insolent. The day you passed that act,
you took away from before their eyes the greatest of all inducements to
industry, frugality, and sobriety, by giving them a dependence on
somewhat else than a careful accumulation during youth and health, for
support in age or sickness. In short, you offered a premium for the
encouragement of idleness, and you should not now wonder that it has had
its effect in the increase of poverty."
-Ben Franklin
Interesting "solution" but these social workers seem to forget why most kids that come from disfunctional families are black. Welfare is the problem that keep the poor poor.
So the 1960’s didn’t happen? COINTELPRO which has already been declassified didn’t happen? Mass incarceration, red lining, and gentrification have all been ongoing contributors. But let’s just ignore that I guess.
Well given that there seems like there is a father yes I thought they were White.
While sounding reasonable, it appears that have such a "blind removal" review would entail eliminating so much information that the board would be making a far less informed decision. Consider -- there could be no pictures of children to judge their physical well-being, no pictures of the home that showed anything suggestive of race, no description of the neighborhood so you couldn't consider whether the neighbor is a pimp or a lawyer, etc.
Hola
3:05 "Does that mother deserve to have her children taken from her?" THE ANSWER IS YES! Stop reproducing if you are too much of a failure of a human being to take care of your kids then you shouldn't have any!
Wow
This Blind Removal Meeting system sounds a lot like a trial by jury. You've got your case worker who examines the evidence and has rules for deciding what evidence is presented, and the committee who makes a recommendation based only on that evidence that follows the rules. It's worked for centuries, and they've found a way to apply it to their situation. Even better, they found a way to do it without lawyers!
inb4 someone yells at me for not mentioning race in my comment.
Yea but you don’t talk about how people just depend on welfare and don’t work out of it ...
Because the way welfare works, many actually lose income by working, because they dont just subtract from your welfare what comes in your check, they subtract more. Lets say you're a single mother in a low income area with 3 kids from a failed marriage, and one was unintended. You get on welfare, and let's say you're getting 1000 in welfare a month. It's barely enough with rent and your kids are usually hungry. You go get a job at the local Burger King because it's the only place that will hire you with your background of little education. Your check brings in 400 dollars every 2 weeks, and your welfare drops 500, so you now have less money than you did before
ur country is fucked then if that's how minimum wage and welfare work. It's not wonder people would blame those suffering under the system rather than the system they themselves depend on for survival. peeer peeeeer down on the little people. Its a question of is there a way to "work" out of it? If there is...then the point stands. If there isn't, ur just being cruel by blaming them for depending on welfare. like falling into a pit and not having a way to climb out.....why waste resources and hurt urself trying when u can just wait for the rain to pour and an apple to fall from the apple tree overhead.
Thumb down for the racist speaker.
Nuck Fibbaz boi
propoganda worth spreading.
In before all the hate comments from alt-rights who are gonna auto dislike after seeing the thumbnail and see the word race in the title.
Your weave is too tight.
Good job making assumptions, you just kicked the can further down the road.
@Rogerandi Noire At what point did I state that she shares the same narrative as me?
@@steven_duller3841 Check the first reply to my original comment for a clear example of making assumptions. Try again
@@Maxfr8 I wish I had weave, would give my hair more options tbh. Nice try though
One day will be stop her... Speak every think. 💖💖
Her idea is great, it is sort of a peer reviewed to make the process more scientific. AI is probably not even needed, a network wehre the employees could review via internet would be enough. This way someone working a thousand miles away can do the review and that distributes work better across staates.
If you can't afford one kid, don't have three of em. That's a big part of the problem right there.
Foh
This is how you make an actual difference. Take notes #Kaepernick.
@dev0n james No! Kneeling is a cop-out. Nothing positive has come from it. Only more resentment. I'm completely admiring this woman.
And what if i imagined they were white? You lose me at the point you ask that question. You lose half of the people you want to speak to. Not a good approach. and whats with the rats? lol weird way to spin your arguments.
This was just pure nonsense! I'm embarrassed for this woman..
Ted, you are going to lose your political impartialness with this left-wing bias^^
going to lose?