Great choice on killing off Shaw. Cause if there is anything Aliens fans love it's killing a previously established character offscreen in a silly anticlimactic way after they have survived a ton of shit in the last film.
Who gives a shit about Daniels?Katherine Watered-Down???Let me say something nice about her father Sam Waterson-Love him in those Woody Allen films like Crimes&Misdemeanors,September,heck,Capricorn One is better sci-fi than Covenant,and it has The Juice!!:)
PS: The planet David bombs is most likely NOT the Engineer's home planet (described as "Paradise" by Ridley Scott). Several clues point to them being another race created by the Engineers. The fact that they all assemble in one arena and cheer upon the arrival of a single ship, there is no technology on the planet other than a docking station, they barely resemble the Engineers we saw in Prometheus, and the colony itself looks like ancient Rome (with not a single communication tower or any air defense system). Also the fact that David is clearly stranded on the planet hints that there are no other ships available for him to use, thus he tricks the Covenant into landing with a distress signal originating from the Derelict ship he crashed. I don't think we've seen the Engineer's planet yet, and this is confirmed by Damon Lindelof who says Ridley Scott's idea for Paradise is nothing like what we saw in Covenant.
Thank you! It's like people can't really follow logic anymore. Looking at these Proto-Engineers I think it is also very evident why the real Engineers wanted to exterminate humans. We didn't evolve how they wanted us to (into Proto-Engineers), and like the invasive weed in any gardener's flower bed it must be plucked out by the roots to ensure that it doesn't overgrow the desired cultivars.
Interesting Biblical section at the end. The reason Weyland orders David to bring him some tea is because David quickly discerns that he is immortal and Weyland isn't, Weylands shonky human ego doesn't like this bare fact and he tries to regain control of his impending doom by ordering a steaming mug. Which was probably Davids first clue that humans are ridiculous. Great Video :)
my daughter shut this film down in one thought. Strange planet, nothing ever documented, no known Flora or fauna...yet off they saunter without helmets.
and the glass window on the space ship rig at the end, that was so thin the alien smashes it with its face. but that glass supposedly survive entry into a planet atmosphere.... that glass would have needed to be like 6 inches thick
Most of them even. If they all died in an event as simple as crashing while trying to land i na storm three people would be left in charge of the entire operation. Oh and if that happened they would've lost what was apparently their ONLY shuttle. Maybe send the durable expendable android that can't get infected with diseases down there first?
I think the Engineer plan for any race they created getting to that planet was 1 of 2 things. 1. If they reached that much technology, they'd be accepted into the engineer race and granted a longer life. 2. If you go too far and explore the galaxy , you will be destroyed for questioning your existence and then the entire race would be wiped out. ... From the engineer/ Weyland scene in Prometheus, I'm guessing it's my 2nd theory. ( or something else entirely) That what I love about Prometheus, it makes me ask questions and have to come up with new / different answers.
For me the scariness of Covenant wasn't the jump scares and slimy aliens. The scariness was David's sick sexual abomination dreams. His unholy mixing of Shaw, who he said he loved, with devil octopus henti. I got the same feeling in my gut seeing the drawings in the scroll room of his dreams that I get when you hear about the worst serial killers. Like not only do they kill, but they played with the bodies. David played with the bodies
Absolutely agree. The creepy sketches of shaw's face with the missing jaw and alien-like thingys coming out was the only scary imagery. The fact that David loved her and then did all these twisted things to her. Kinda like the Jack Nicholson in the Shining... the idea of someone who loves you and you love back, but they lose their mind and want to do messed up things... that's truly scary.
BLUE LED I think David isn't able to truly feel or convey love, though he is capable of understanding it conceptually, he was never able to reconcile those two things. Whether that's a byproduct of artificial intellience or a malfunction I'm not sure.
Facts that NEED to be established for posterity to address the biggest grievances of those "outraged" by this movie: 1) David did not wipe out the Engineers. 1a. The people we see him annihilate didn't even look the same as the Engineers we saw in Prometheus. 1b. Developing theory is they were another subsequent race created by the Engineers, like humans, but closer to the Engis' likeness. Compare functional design differences between mystery civilization and us vis a vis Engineers, to those between David and Walter vis a vis humans. 1c. Even if they were Engineers (questionable) it is highly dubious David wiped them all out. There must be more out there. 2) David did NOT originate the xenomorph. 2a. Just because we see him evidently create an ovamorph (egg) does not mean he was the first to do it. Engineers could still have done it tens of thousands of years before. 2b. It is clear David learned things from being on board the Engineer's ship 2c. Keen eyes have pointed out the less biol-mechanical appearance of the "xeno" (ostensibly) in Covenant. It appears slightly more organic with more muscly sinew and ligature, and behaves slightly differently too, e.g. faster gestation. This could make sense because the original organic matter it spawns from was samples of Shaw's body. Whereas the classic xeno from Alien 1979 is from an engineer who seem to have fused bio and mechanical, OR - Fun new theory: we will find out that the classic xeno comes from David himself. I think he may be the original "space jockey" from Alien, after evolving biomechanically, growing larger to match his god-complex in the next chapters. What do you guys think?
spot on about the creation of the xenomorph, like yeah he may have 'created' them in a loose sense, but its more recreation, and the biggest tell of that being the case is the beginning piano scene where he reinterprets "entry of the gods into valhalla" to piano, along with his general unhinged brain which attributed the wrong author to Ozymandias. He thinks its Byron (himself) but its really Shelley (engineers) in that regard.
You can take it or leave it though. IMO what Scott is doing with these prequels is way better than any of the post-Aliens stuff. And also way better than the inevitable Alien reboot that you already know FOX so avariciously craves. I know they are flawed, yet they remain the most interesting expansions on this franchise since 1986. I admire the ambition and am with Scott all the way. What I'm thinking is that David becomes godlike, capable of increasing his form factor as well as evolving AI - becoming even larger and more powerful than the Engineers depicted in Prometheus. This could explain why the space jockey in Alien is substantially larger than any of the Engineers. People assume the original space jockey from Alien to be an engineer. I think it's David after going through some kind of evolution we'll see in the next film. This will also explain why the classic xenomorph is more biomechanical - because it spawned from an semi-organic android, rather than the xeno we see in Covenant, which is more organic. I think there could be a big battle between the returning Engineers who may ultimately have to ally with humans to take on David and his army of xenomorphs and other abominations. And remember, there's also the theory that the Engineers were always divided amongst themselves into two camps: one which favored the humans, and one which sought their eradication.
Exactly. I pointed this out too in other threads. They clearly want to demonstrate that David is flawed and not infallible. Reason it is good to emphasize the point you make about David mis-attributing that poem (song?) is that it hints that David might have also been mistaken in who he was bombing, presuming it was the Engineers, when it could really be another subsequent race spawned by them. This is an ingenious misdirect and really rewarded repeat viewing of both Prometheus and Covenant. There are layers to these movies yet to be revealed.
Great insights here. I love the biblical parallels you explore. I won't be able to watch either Prometheus and Covenant the same way again. Awesome job
LOL wow this is circle for me!! Promethean is the first video I saw on your channel and I subscribed the same day. Congratulations for five years of UA-cam and kick ass content 👍🏽 Also amazing video ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ (5 stars) It's what I choose to believe.
here is my take on why ridley scott still tries so hard, it is really simpel but if you have ever tried to create art you may relate to this: Aliens and Blade Runner are THE two most successfull movies of his career in terms of "this will continue to move people after i pass away." but they are famous not for his direction. But the amazing designs of their world. Alien 1 and Blade Runner are amazing worlds that completly capture the ideas of the concept artist behind them who in the long run will be remembered over ridley scott. H.R Geiger and Syd Mead, and knowing this eats away at ridley. I'm a concept artist and looking up to these guys just hoping to be as influencial or even as good as these guys is what i thrive for, not being even 1% as good as them makes me angry at myself, drives me to put out more and better myself.
And the reason it was so iconic and legendary was because of the unknown. When you find out it’s just more AI run amok revenge story it drops off a frackin cliff of disinterest. And trust me Covenant was not what fans wanted.
I think after covid we kind of now understand that there WILL be that stupid guy who hides the zombie bite, who gets everyone in the 'safe zone' killed, and nerds have been WRONG, complaining about 'THAT GUY' for years. What I'm interested in, is, if that's the Engineers homeworld. WHAT if, it's a bit like Earth in the Dune universe? They had this vast interstellar empire, conducted horrific biological warfare on a scale we can't understand, but their homeworld, was largely irrelevant in the grand designs of their empire. So it wasn't as advanced and was more dependant on, or even worshipped those who did go to space and fly around.
Finally!!!! Yes waited 5 years for this review!!! I will probably enjoy this more than Covenant 😍 Screw male rompers, worse than the man bun!!! I think without seeing some of the promotional extra scenes it really hurts the viewing experience. The one with the crew helps with character development and the other fills in the blank omg what happened to Shaw and David. Another huge red flag was when Ridley Scott was bragging about making the film on a tight budget. When you hear a director bragging about that it does not bode well. Long live Space Brain!!!
44:46-58:20 saved my day, thank you :D I´d like to see you interviewing Ridley Sott, maybe some day? ....prettyplease? OT: “Bless the Maker and His water. Bless the coming and going of Him. May His passage cleanse the world. May He keep the world for His people. ”
I always thought the black goo in Prometheus was a bio-accelerant, an everyday tool used for a number of purpose Ex: terraforming,, accelerated healing/adaptation and others. A gift from the Engineers to humanity that could end all disease and famine if used right. Like acetylene torch not meant to harm but in the hands of a child all it can do is harm. The Engineers left it on a distant planets in hopes that when we were advanced enough to reach it we would be wise enough to use it.
lowercase21 It could still happen, the motivations of the Engineers are unknown as is the black all we have are characters speculation nothing definitive. PS: Witch do you prefer David created the Protomorph (the movie) vs David re-create them from Engineers created Ovomorphs (A.K.A "Xenomorph Eggs") (the book)
Roby the MythosMan I thought Prometheus was too unrealistic about a plot why I mean humans from the aliens it's so far apart in believability. And then that Old doctor actually wants to go and bring one of them things back to life? This guy is clearly way past retirement I mean what the fuck he opens the clear coffin isn't the thing bites off his face despite his nose or something. Hah. I may not remember it right but it was freaky fer sure! That alien didn't even wait to get an introduction, "hi thanks for releasing me from my 5000 year sleep, my name is engineer Bob & im freakin hungry ah uh ohhhh..." The engineers & human theories were just way too out there with not enough story woven in to make sense. It just made these people seem like idiots for going through it. Making friends with an alien in these films is when you know your scientist dad has dementia.
DamnTheBeavers Covenant was a piece of shit. I've never been more offended watching a movie. It's was a disgrace. Ridley Scott sold out his integrity as a filmmaker. Disgraceful!
My guess is, David is the dead space jockey in Alien. He sacrificed himself to birth an alien Queen that went on to lay all the eggs. That's why the aliens of the original series are biomechanical: the perfect synthesis of organic life and synthetic.
James Worrad only issue with that is that the space jockey is about 10 feet tall ala the engineers. I'm hoping the engineers make a return in the next film if only to set up Alien
AVP wasn't terrible. It was aware of what it was and just a good old guilty pleasure. I'd definitely watch it over ressurection. However, The second one may have well been Freddy vs Jason.
I think David was supposed to represent Lucifer, Walter Michael the Archangel, hence use of him asking Walter would he rather serve in heaven or reign in hell?
theHarlequinCat Creations Yeah there were a lot of implicit and explicit references to the bible, that one cbg19 didn't mention, just thought it was relevant to mention.
I think it was a disservice to the alien as a creature "the perfect organism" was just made by David. Would've been better if there was still some mystery to it.
Izzmonster I still don't even see how David's facehuggers are all that perfect, or the xeno for that matter: the black goo literally just gets into your body and bam, neomorph. No waiting, no implanting, it's just born a few hours later, without the need for triggering eggs to hatch
I just love when Faris (the pilot of the drop ship) panicks and then gets a gun against the alien and basically runs with a loaded gun, slips on a pool of blood and shoots the ceiling :D that was such a slapstick that I thought I'm gonna die of laughter :D this entire moment with Fairs killed me :D her smashed ankle, falling from the stairs and next shooting the alien like "just shoot it and don't worry about those oxygen or other gas cylinders or other vital parts of the ship". Those people were trained for 10 years and well... they could as well give those money to the charity, because if fate of humanity depends on such people...
Drinking game: after every failure to follow protocols.1. Failure to retract solar sails 2. Failure to establish planetary exploratory safety procedures 3. Failure to establish proper quarantine directives 4. Failure to define command override preparations5. Failure to define emergency command during hostile hostel 6. Failure to properly psychologically vetted crew 7. Failure failure I give up....89
Goddamn, an hour?? Nice! *settles in, expands mind* I cant believe the Prometheus video was 5 years ago? Time flies when the videos are this awesome. ^_^
One of the best things about the original Alien was that Ripley was the "no, we need to follow quarantine protocol" character. It's such an annoying trope that the responsible characters are bad/misguided.
Ridley Scott is trying to tell a huge biblical story in what is effectively just a space monster movie. To schizoid - one moment David is making pompous speeches about creativity and the next moment someone is being face-fucked by an alien. At least Aliens vs Predator new what it was trying to be (not much) and didn't try too hard to have greater pretensions.
I've not found any reference to Shaw actually coming out of her cryogenic chamber alive or even conscious. This may explain David's actions in destroying the inhabitants. The reason maybe that something happened to Shaw and even though she was alive she may have been brain dead from an incompatibility with the chamber. This then caused David to take revenge.
Thanks. I couldn't understand why none of the YOUTubers who reviewed and assessed this movie never mentioned this. I assumed that I had missed something. I'll see if an informed fan comes up with something a little better in fleshing out that idea.
The comment about the crew is EXACTLY what I wanted. I want to see the crew do everything right and still fail because the threat they're facing with is beyond human!
Ridley invalidated every previous alien film, including his own, with Alien Covenant. No queen, cause fuck Cameron, no AVP (which was fair enough), and original alien cause that engineer (with the burst outward chest) was FOSSILISED! ergo, those eggs were old, far older than a few years, long enough for the ship and engineer corpse to fossilise. Loved your Ripley essay and made me re-evaluate the man, but he still must have read these two scripts and and thought them good...
Tony Paulazzo if you remember in the movie, Oram asks David what the Ovomorphs are waiting and he says "a Mother". i think that the Queen will appear in the next movie. also i think that that the planet of this movie is not the real engineers planet, because the inhabitants looked different. and also i think David didnt create the xenomorph, but recreated by learning more about the enginners.
yeah nothing that happened in prometheus/covenant outright rejects a queen, and they still havent fully addressed exactly what happened with original space jockey. Also as far as "fossilization" goes, that wasn't exactly proven, was just dallas saying “Alien life form…Looks like its been dead a long time…. Fossilized. Looks like its grown out of the chair." He didnt definitely determine anything with making that observation, so maybe it was, maybe it wasnt, but again - nothing has been explicitly explained or shown regarding the original space jockey's origin. We know it shares similarities to the engineers in appearance, similarity in style of ship, had eggs in its cargo that created a similar creature to the one seen in covenant (main difference is biomech features in alien, not seen in covenant xeno) but no definitive "this space jockey species is {blank} and arrived because of {blank}" We can make educated guesses, but i'll wait to see what they do to ultimately get there, before i dismiss everything with limited information.
I went back and watched Alien (for the first time in years) and you're right, it was more an observation and my memory was mixed up with Giger interviews about that room. Giger had envisioned the ship and pilot as biomechanoid in nature (flesh on top of the bones on both ship and character which had decayed after thousands of years). As for the queen, I guess Ridley is gonna answer that age old question: Which came first; the egg or the hen? Peace.
Is it weird that I fear all of these new Alien films are going to over explain the Xenomorphs to the point that they will lose their horrific mystery and frightful allure? Can we leave no franchise alone anymore? Or am I just bitching...
Watching this one again. You blew my mind when you mentioned that your Prometheus review was 5 yrs ago. My wife and I love your channel. Feeling great to have been subbed for this long 👫❤️
As dumb as AvP is, it at least had the decency to NOT kill any major characters from other films offscreen. So bonus points vs Covenant and Alien 3. Plus, it had Lance Henriksen. Alien Covenant has zero Lance Henriksen. The quality of an Alien franchise sequel is proportional to the percentage of Lance Henriksen, which is why Aliens is the best sequel, it had the highest percentage of Lance Henriksen.
AvP was PG-13 trash that killed most characters offscreen, maybe not returning characters, but characters nonetheless. The only truly good Alien movies are the 1st and 2nd.
If you actually say that AVP was better than this film. A film with a good lead(David) and general sophistication that again, like Prometheus, leaves the audience pondering, you've solidified Ozymandias.
Prometheus comes out and everyone was like "Fuck this, where's the Xenomorph? This sucks." Covenant comes out and everyone is like "Fuck this, where's the Prometheus stuff? This sucks." All of the people that bitched that there was no Xenomorph in Prometheus and that it wasn't enough of an Alien film pretty much brought this on themselves. I still thought it was better than 3, Resurrection and AvP 1 and 2.
Here's a mystery for you: At no point in time during Prometheus do any of the characters, either through exposition or dialog, explain to Shaw what the black goo is. My theory is that it's because it is a poorly made movie.
The fascinating thing about Ridley Scott is how much faster he has been working since his comeback film in 2000, Gladiator. After that, he equalled his directing output from the previous 23 years in the next ten years, and hasn't slowed down since. Something changed or clicked in for him. All he said about it was, that he thought he had worked too slowly in years past.
We didn't get a xenomorph creation in this film. There is literally a large xenomorph pictograph in the canister/alter room in the movie Prometheus. They are RIGHT THERE! CARVED INTO THE SHIP'S WALL!
I've realized that Covenant is a giant condescending "fuck you" from Ridley Scott to the fans and critics of the Alien films. It feels as if David and Walter are the devil and angel, respectively, on Scott's shoulders throughout the film. One telling him that the audience is worthy of consideration and the other telling him that they're garbage and not worthy at all. The last few minutes of Covenant tell us all we need to know, and confirm that Scott ignores Walter and aligns with David's attitudes. The last scene is, quite literally, Ridley Scott telling the audience and critics that he's offered you the goodwill of another Alien film, but now he's pivoting the series and turning it into something different; something he tried to do with Prometheus but everybody just wanted another rehashed Alien film. The last few minutes are Scott saying: "these are my films, this is my world, and you are just along for the ride. Deal with it."
I kind of like that theory, but in that case I'd read Covenant as "I tried to give you a beautiful creation with Prometheus but you rejected it, so you get more Alien instead, and all the death and darkness that brings". :)
I think David sees himself as God, and that is Ridley's way of saying God is a man made construct. Also, fuck the haters, Space Brain is awesome. Now that he's telekinetic he should just fuck with Robot.
That Guy: yet David S Goyer deserves at least 3 consecutive life terms in Writer's jail for his writing sins.....ugh Zach Snyder, JJ Abrams, Bryon Singer & Michael Bay all deserve multiple life terms in director's prison for their sins....hell Snyder alone should be tried at Nurbergring for Movie Crimes lolz watching a ZS movie is like cruel and unusual punishment.
CBG19 is a gift to the world. It's a shame that Ridley Scott ain't worth this lady's fascinatingly in depth analysis. He is merely a gifted artisan; nothing more. Hey CBG, ever thought of giving the works of David Lynch the 19 treatment? I would love it if you could unpack his apex, Mulholland Drive. Thank you so much for all of the years and years of popular cultural contextualizing you have given us.
We probably haven't seen the last of the Engineers. It's confirmed that David killed a different race - note their pinker skin, more human features and human eyes, and how they reacted to the arrival of the juggernaut. The planet in Covenant was likely a pit stop for David to mess around and perfect his weapon before heading for the Engineer home world with the Covenant. Or something. Who knows!
I agree 100% with your review. I wasn't too put off by all the stupid human characters and cliche bullshit, because I was kind of expecting it and I viewed it as slapstick. The one thing that pissed me off was how they killed off Shaw. I never understood why people disliked Prometheus when it had Shaw. She was an awesome character and nothing came close in Alien. She went through all that hell, proved herself in the same way Ripley did, and now she's just dead. Also, yes, I would love to have an alien movie where the people are actually fucking competent.
lol.. thank you! And here I was thinking ... " .... wait ... am I imagining this because it doesn't seem like anybody else is calling this shit out..." LOL
23:20 YES!! That's what was great about the original Alien. They all wore helmets and protective gear. Ripley tries to enforce quarantine, but is over-ridden by Ash, who has his own private agenda with the company. That one character does something dumb, by letting the cat go, which will set off the tracker again, but his buddy immediately tells him he's an idiot. Believable characters. Why is it so hard to write? Covenant is completely antithetical to the original. When a character dies, you feel absolutely nothing. Nothing was even remotely scary or thrilling about it. Yeah, David was a cool, evil robot, and the visuals were nice, but that's all it has going for it.
Awesome review - I felt it was made just for me - I've rewatched Prometheus and Covenant several times and I'm a bit of a theology geek, but never bothered to try to look for parallels. A very niche audience for a movie review, but I'm glad I found it. It was a fascinating list of parallels.
"I want to see a crew do everything right and still fail." Preach sister. I went to a late showing of this movie and i was pretty much alone in the theater, so i was able to talk to the screen under my breath. I got steadily more annoyed as i kept watching them walk around with no helmets and just touch stuff. It pissed me off they were so shocked people were infected with some unknown pathogen.
Yeah, but this film seriously fucked up the potential of the lore from the 1970s Alien movie. All that mystery and wonder about the Alien species, what they are capable of, if they can bring down another race with technology far more advanced than ours, what chance do we have? And this fucking movie just decides a man-made android is responsible for it all. Fuck that.
ridley can have a coke and a smile, cus he didnt write alien. the story isnt his, all he did was direct it. cammeron actually wrote aliens. thats his baby and he perfected what the original writers of Alien created. that being said,both movies are masterpieces.
David didn't create the xenomorph until 2103, so how come there's Xenomorph looking murals in the Engineers ships (Alien & Prometheus)? Did the Xenomorph actually existed before and the Engineers just want to recreate it?
Nanna Leifa because he most likely wasn't the only one that created them. Even in the Alien movies there were different species of the xenos. Alien 1 and isolation has xenos that used hosts to create eggs (no queen). Alien 2 had a hive set up and alien 3 had a dog version (or a cow depending on what version you see). Alien resurrection had some weird human live birth etc. Point is, David created a type of xeno. The engineer ship that Ripley and the crew found in Alien 1 looks like it has been there a lot older than 18 years (Covenant takes place 2109, Alien takes place 2122) meaning the xenos there were most likely created from someone else or from a different group of engineers. or that's how I see it anyway unless Ridley Scott tries to link the two series directly in the next movie.
Dimi Done oh sorry I meant what the face hugger grabbed. one version (common) it was the dog. but in another version it was a cow (directors or extended). Xeno still looks the same in both versions but the point was more that there have been different "species" of the xenos in both series so David the droid most likely isn't the original creator of the xeno. I know I'm grabbing at straws here but it's the way I see it.
I think it's pretty much impossible trying to connect the new Alien franchise to the original movie without plot holes/retcon at this point. Unless someone would came out with good explanation of why the technology of the original Alien looks significantly behind the times despite being the future of Alien Covenant and still presumably on the same continuity. Well, the new films are basically soft reboot anyway, so no more questions right? Just like the new Star Trek!
I still maintain that both this and PROMETHEUS would have been much better served if they were unrelated to the ALIEN franchise. Sure, keep Weyland-Yutani, but don't involve the xenomorphs because explaining that they were purpose-made undermines the cosmic, unknowable nature of them and actively makes the older movies WORSE.
No question about it. But the only way this thing would be greenlitt is if it's tied to the Alien franchise (as studio smelled sepparate trilogy franchise potential) and more importantly Ridley based it all on the question we were all asking oure selfs who the hell is the big guy in the "chair" in Alien, of course we didn't need the answer, cause it ruins the mystery and ruined the mystery is exactly what they did, turning a creepy giant advanced humanoid (notice atleast 2-3 times LARGER than the pale bodybuilder we got in Prometheus) into a midnless killing mashine, unintresting AF. And to breake something that was broken allready, they crowbarred this potential wonderfull SF film into an Alien prequal. And if ruining 1 great character wosn't enough they pritty much made David the creator of the queen and the xeno (obviously they forgot we allready saw a xeno in the Prometheus mural, talk about idiotic and total disreguard of continuation). x(
The best part for me of Comic girls review of this movie is the Biblical symbolism and Ridley Scott's internal struggle of god and creation. It was fascinating to hear comic girl talk about it. I had no idea it could get deep.
Great choice on killing off Shaw. Cause if there is anything Aliens fans love it's killing a previously established character offscreen in a silly anticlimactic way after they have survived a ton of shit in the last film.
"offscreen," don't forget.
Severian Wintermute Shaw joins ranks with Ripley's daughter, Hicks and Newt.
👍 Shaw was bad ass like Ripley. Shaw should have come back at least in the 3rd film.
+DwayneK Media We never cared about Ripley's daughter, to be fair.
Who gives a shit about Daniels?Katherine Watered-Down???Let me say something nice about her father Sam Waterson-Love him in those Woody Allen films like Crimes&Misdemeanors,September,heck,Capricorn One is better sci-fi than Covenant,and it has The Juice!!:)
PS: The planet David bombs is most likely NOT the Engineer's home planet (described as "Paradise" by Ridley Scott). Several clues point to them being another race created by the Engineers. The fact that they all assemble in one arena and cheer upon the arrival of a single ship, there is no technology on the planet other than a docking station, they barely resemble the Engineers we saw in Prometheus, and the colony itself looks like ancient Rome (with not a single communication tower or any air defense system). Also the fact that David is clearly stranded on the planet hints that there are no other ships available for him to use, thus he tricks the Covenant into landing with a distress signal originating from the Derelict ship he crashed. I don't think we've seen the Engineer's planet yet, and this is confirmed by Damon Lindelof who says Ridley Scott's idea for Paradise is nothing like what we saw in Covenant.
Thank you!
It's like people can't really follow logic anymore.
Looking at these Proto-Engineers I think it is also very evident why the real Engineers wanted to exterminate humans. We didn't evolve how they wanted us to (into Proto-Engineers), and like the invasive weed in any gardener's flower bed it must be plucked out by the roots to ensure that it doesn't overgrow the desired cultivars.
Even if this isn't actually what the canon was supposed to be, I really hope they go with this idea.
Like if that was the only thing wrong with the plot xD
Molasar I hope you are right, I was so bummed to see none of Prometheus questions answered and some gore fest instead 😤😓
I really don’t get a sh!t what that Lindelof thinks. I pray I never any more off his content.
I'm so happy you made a Covenant review! Your Prometheus videos are some of my favorite, great job on this one as well!
Interesting Biblical section at the end. The reason Weyland orders David to bring him some tea is because David quickly discerns that he is immortal and Weyland isn't, Weylands shonky human ego doesn't like this bare fact and he tries to regain control of his impending doom by ordering a steaming mug. Which was probably Davids first clue that humans are ridiculous. Great Video :)
Olek_Gannon lol 😂 you say that like it’s a fact. No one knows why the engineers want what they want. Let’s hope for a real sequel to Prometheus!
found your channel 5 years ago when I was looking for answers about Prometheus. keep slaying cbg19!!!!
Wow I just noticed you hit half a million subscribers! I guess it's been a while since I've been watching last. Great job, CBGirl19!!
Welcome back, Daniel!
You sound just like David
This was by far the best review. Let's hope this trilogy has more to show us.
I agree. A very well thought out neutral review. Her review for Prometheus was my favorite too.
Anti-Romper!!! But I am pro Spacebrain.
I'm against rompers. what happens if you have to poop in public and maybe it would've been a photo finish but you wore your romper.
This.
Trippy Commentaries pro spaceBrain
Burn rompers. Keep Robot's punching bag.
I'm anti-rompers, but for everyone. You do you, but those things are so uncomfortable.
my daughter shut this film down in one thought. Strange planet, nothing ever documented, no known Flora or fauna...yet off they saunter without helmets.
that was a movie killer moment right there.so advance and so stupid this travelers.
it's like lets just go totally off mission and have a helmetless wander - jeeesus wt actual F!!
That was the most unrealistic thing in the entire movie tbh
and the glass window on the space ship rig at the end, that was so thin the alien smashes it with its face. but that glass supposedly survive entry into a planet atmosphere.... that glass would have needed to be like 6 inches thick
Most of them even. If they all died in an event as simple as crashing while trying to land i na storm three people would be left in charge of the entire operation. Oh and if that happened they would've lost what was apparently their ONLY shuttle. Maybe send the durable expendable android that can't get infected with diseases down there first?
I think the Engineer plan for any race they created getting to that planet was 1 of 2 things.
1. If they reached that much technology, they'd be accepted into the engineer race and granted a longer life.
2. If you go too far and explore the galaxy , you will be destroyed for questioning your existence and then the entire race would be wiped out.
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From the engineer/ Weyland scene in Prometheus, I'm guessing it's my 2nd theory. ( or something else entirely)
That what I love about Prometheus, it makes me ask questions and have to come up with new / different answers.
This is an hour long holy shit I can smoke a bowl and put on a full face of makeup to this god blesssss
For me the scariness of Covenant wasn't the jump scares and slimy aliens. The scariness was David's sick sexual abomination dreams. His unholy mixing of Shaw, who he said he loved, with devil octopus henti.
I got the same feeling in my gut seeing the drawings in the scroll room of his dreams that I get when you hear about the worst serial killers. Like not only do they kill, but they played with the bodies.
David played with the bodies
Lmao David was a sick fuck. If he did that to someone he supposedly loved, everyone is in for it 😂
Absolutely agree. The creepy sketches of shaw's face with the missing jaw and alien-like thingys coming out was the only scary imagery. The fact that David loved her and then did all these twisted things to her. Kinda like the Jack Nicholson in the Shining... the idea of someone who loves you and you love back, but they lose their mind and want to do messed up things... that's truly scary.
BLUE LED I think David isn't able to truly feel or convey love, though he is capable of understanding it conceptually, he was never able to reconcile those two things. Whether that's a byproduct of artificial intellience or a malfunction I'm not sure.
Facts that NEED to be established for posterity to address the biggest grievances of those "outraged" by this movie:
1) David did not wipe out the Engineers.
1a. The people we see him annihilate didn't even look the same as the Engineers we saw in Prometheus.
1b. Developing theory is they were another subsequent race created by the Engineers, like humans, but closer to the Engis' likeness. Compare functional design differences between mystery civilization and us vis a vis Engineers, to those between David and Walter vis a vis humans.
1c. Even if they were Engineers (questionable) it is highly dubious David wiped them all out. There must be more out there.
2) David did NOT originate the xenomorph.
2a. Just because we see him evidently create an ovamorph (egg) does not mean he was the first to do it. Engineers could still have done it tens of thousands of years before.
2b. It is clear David learned things from being on board the Engineer's ship
2c. Keen eyes have pointed out the less biol-mechanical appearance of the "xeno" (ostensibly) in Covenant. It appears slightly more organic with more muscly sinew and ligature, and behaves slightly differently too, e.g. faster gestation. This could make sense because the original organic matter it spawns from was samples of Shaw's body. Whereas the classic xeno from Alien 1979 is from an engineer who seem to have fused bio and mechanical, OR -
Fun new theory: we will find out that the classic xeno comes from David himself. I think he may be the original "space jockey" from Alien, after evolving biomechanically, growing larger to match his god-complex in the next chapters.
What do you guys think?
Any thoughts? What do you guys think? I don't want to converse with myself. D:
Thoughts are that the beautifully simple original films have been buried in convulted crap.
spot on about the creation of the xenomorph, like yeah he may have 'created' them in a loose sense, but its more recreation, and the biggest tell of that being the case is the beginning piano scene where he reinterprets "entry of the gods into valhalla" to piano, along with his general unhinged brain which attributed the wrong author to Ozymandias. He thinks its Byron (himself) but its really Shelley (engineers) in that regard.
You can take it or leave it though. IMO what Scott is doing with these prequels is way better than any of the post-Aliens stuff. And also way better than the inevitable Alien reboot that you already know FOX so avariciously craves. I know they are flawed, yet they remain the most interesting expansions on this franchise since 1986.
I admire the ambition and am with Scott all the way. What I'm thinking is that David becomes godlike, capable of increasing his form factor as well as evolving AI - becoming even larger and more powerful than the Engineers depicted in Prometheus. This could explain why the space jockey in Alien is substantially larger than any of the Engineers. People assume the original space jockey from Alien to be an engineer. I think it's David after going through some kind of evolution we'll see in the next film.
This will also explain why the classic xenomorph is more biomechanical - because it spawned from an semi-organic android, rather than the xeno we see in Covenant, which is more organic.
I think there could be a big battle between the returning Engineers who may ultimately have to ally with humans to take on David and his army of xenomorphs and other abominations.
And remember, there's also the theory that the Engineers were always divided amongst themselves into two camps: one which favored the humans, and one which sought their eradication.
Exactly. I pointed this out too in other threads. They clearly want to demonstrate that David is flawed and not infallible. Reason it is good to emphasize the point you make about David mis-attributing that poem (song?) is that it hints that David might have also been mistaken in who he was bombing, presuming it was the Engineers, when it could really be another subsequent race spawned by them. This is an ingenious misdirect and really rewarded repeat viewing of both Prometheus and Covenant. There are layers to these movies yet to be revealed.
Great insights here. I love the biblical parallels you explore. I won't be able to watch either Prometheus and Covenant the same way again. Awesome job
LOL wow this is circle for me!! Promethean is the first video I saw on your channel and I subscribed the same day. Congratulations for five years of UA-cam and kick ass content 👍🏽 Also amazing video ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ (5 stars) It's what I choose to believe.
OOHHH FUCK YEAH! I LOVE CGB19!
anyghost me too !
Oh God me too:)
So pumped for this!!! The prometheus review is what introduced me to this channel and I've been a fan ever since
here is my take on why ridley scott still tries so hard, it is really simpel but if you have ever tried to create art you may relate to this:
Aliens and Blade Runner are THE two most successfull movies of his career in terms of "this will continue to move people after i pass away." but they are famous not for his direction. But the amazing designs of their world. Alien 1 and Blade Runner are amazing worlds that completly capture the ideas of the concept artist behind them who in the long run will be remembered over ridley scott.
H.R Geiger and Syd Mead, and knowing this eats away at ridley.
I'm a concept artist and looking up to these guys just hoping to be as influencial or even as good as these guys is what i thrive for, not being even 1% as good as them makes me angry at myself, drives me to put out more and better myself.
yelling into the void of a thousand voices
thanks
And the reason it was so iconic and legendary was because of the unknown. When you find out it’s just more AI run amok revenge story it drops off a frackin cliff of disinterest. And trust me Covenant was not what fans wanted.
Damn good analysis. You covered things that I saw and plenty that I missed. Keep up the good work! Cheers!
holy shit, an hour and 10 mins?! YESSSS!!!
For better or worse, Our Longest Episode of all time. :)
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Great, now I will be watching this until 4 AM... But I bet it will be worth it!
Agreed. I don't even need to be interested in the topic but she still makes it entertaining somehow.
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Good to see Robot again. I mean. You're cool too CBG19. But it's good to see robot again.
I frickin love robot, his personnality is exactly what i want from a robot, pure sarcasm.
Best Robot on the you tube:)
I think after covid we kind of now understand that there WILL be that stupid guy who hides the zombie bite, who gets everyone in the 'safe zone' killed, and nerds have been WRONG, complaining about 'THAT GUY' for years.
What I'm interested in, is, if that's the Engineers homeworld. WHAT if, it's a bit like Earth in the Dune universe? They had this vast interstellar empire, conducted horrific biological warfare on a scale we can't understand, but their homeworld, was largely irrelevant in the grand designs of their empire. So it wasn't as advanced and was more dependant on, or even worshipped those who did go to space and fly around.
You know Covenant is bad, when you realise it makes you miss Prometheus.
Roy Truth.
I've anticipated this review more than I have for covenant.
An hour long! *grabs the pipe* OK, IM READY! -= I'm sure this review is better than the movie=-
id love to get me some space brain while wearing a romper.
Nick Rat HA
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Finally!!!! Yes waited 5 years for this review!!! I will probably enjoy this more than Covenant 😍 Screw male rompers, worse than the man bun!!!
I think without seeing some of the promotional extra scenes it really hurts the viewing experience. The one with the crew helps with character development and the other fills in the blank omg what happened to Shaw and David.
Another huge red flag was when Ridley Scott was bragging about making the film on a tight budget. When you hear a director bragging about that it does not bode well.
Long live Space Brain!!!
44:46-58:20 saved my day, thank you :D
I´d like to see you interviewing Ridley Sott, maybe some day? ....prettyplease?
OT: “Bless the Maker and His water.
Bless the coming and going of Him.
May His passage cleanse the world.
May He keep the world for His people. ”
I have binged watched every episode on this channel, really laid back and fun atmosphere, bit like hanging out with mates. Keep up the good work
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I'm biting at the knickers for more baby romp space brain
Yes I agree David and Walter are the most interesting characters
"I don't know. I don't fucking know." is a perfect summation of both of these fucking movies.
Holy fuck! I just watched an one hour long video without even noticing it. Good stuff, keep it up CBG19!
I absolutely love the intelligent analysis of Ridley Scott and the themes from his movies! Awesome job comicbookgirl19!
I always thought the black goo in Prometheus was a bio-accelerant, an everyday tool used for a number of purpose Ex: terraforming,, accelerated healing/adaptation and others. A gift from the Engineers to humanity that could end all disease and famine if used right. Like acetylene torch not meant to harm but in the hands of a child all it can do is harm. The Engineers left it on a distant planets in hopes that when we were advanced enough to reach it we would be wise enough to use it.
It ha multiple uses. That's why it is a tool of genetic experimentation.
Roby the MythosMan that's a way better plot point then the absolute shit fest that was covenant. IT HAD SO MUCH POTENTIAL!! :(
lowercase21 It could still happen, the motivations of the Engineers are unknown as is the black all we have are characters speculation nothing definitive.
PS: Witch do you prefer David created the Protomorph (the movie) vs David re-create them from Engineers created Ovomorphs (A.K.A "Xenomorph Eggs") (the book)
Roby the MythosMan I thought Prometheus was too unrealistic about a plot why I mean humans from the aliens it's so far apart in believability. And then that Old doctor actually wants to go and bring one of them things back to life? This guy is clearly way past retirement I mean what the fuck he opens the clear coffin isn't the thing bites off his face despite his nose or something. Hah. I may not remember it right but it was freaky fer sure! That alien didn't even wait to get an introduction, "hi thanks for releasing me from my 5000 year sleep, my name is engineer Bob & im freakin hungry ah uh ohhhh..."
The engineers & human theories were just way too out there with not enough story woven in to make sense. It just made these people seem like idiots for going through it. Making friends with an alien in these films is when you know your scientist dad has dementia.
LOL there really bad scientists and that's why all there speculation is in question
i liked where prometheus was going...i liked even the movie..but covenant was so dried up
Kinda hard to feel sorry for the Engineers. They made that black goo in the first place so when David dumps it on them, well the kinda deserved it.
MrDman21 The entire franchise was humans (Weyland, military) and Engineers and now David utilizing the Aliens as weapons of genocide.
DamnTheBeavers Covenant was a piece of shit. I've never been more offended watching a movie. It's was a disgrace. Ridley Scott sold out his integrity as a filmmaker. Disgraceful!
Yeah, you can see the studio say "Put in the Xenomorphs or there won't be a movie!".
Those may not have even been the Engineers who David bombs. Didn't you notice their peculiar distinctions from the Engineers we saw in Prometheus?
My guess is, David is the dead space jockey in Alien. He sacrificed himself to birth an alien Queen that went on to lay all the eggs. That's why the aliens of the original series are biomechanical: the perfect synthesis of organic life and synthetic.
James Worrad only issue with that is that the space jockey is about 10 feet tall ala the engineers. I'm hoping the engineers make a return in the next film if only to set up Alien
Background music is really cool CBG, I like synth-electronic sounds. Props to who included it
AVP wasn't terrible. It was aware of what it was and just a good old guilty pleasure. I'd definitely watch it over ressurection. However, The second one may have well been Freddy vs Jason.
Space Brain is almost as adorable as baby Groot in that onesie.
Robot's still badass though.
I Totally agree. lol
I think David was supposed to represent Lucifer, Walter Michael the Archangel, hence use of him asking Walter would he rather serve in heaven or reign in hell?
Tri Vegan 100% correct. It is the plot of Paradise Lost.
like it's a religion, right?
theHarlequinCat Creations Yeah there were a lot of implicit and explicit references to the bible, that one cbg19 didn't mention, just thought it was relevant to mention.
More likely Kane and Abel.
Just the David & Walter dynamic, but the rest is 100% Paradise Lost. In fact, that was the original title of the this film.
I think it was a disservice to the alien as a creature "the perfect organism" was just made by David. Would've been better if there was still some mystery to it.
Izzmonster maybe now we have alien closure and can move on
Izzmonster I still don't even see how David's facehuggers are all that perfect, or the xeno for that matter: the black goo literally just gets into your body and bam, neomorph. No waiting, no implanting, it's just born a few hours later, without the need for triggering eggs to hatch
I just love when Faris (the pilot of the drop ship) panicks and then gets a gun against the alien and basically runs with a loaded gun, slips on a pool of blood and shoots the ceiling :D that was such a slapstick that I thought I'm gonna die of laughter :D this entire moment with Fairs killed me :D her smashed ankle, falling from the stairs and next shooting the alien like "just shoot it and don't worry about those oxygen or other gas cylinders or other vital parts of the ship". Those people were trained for 10 years and well... they could as well give those money to the charity, because if fate of humanity depends on such people...
Drinking game: after every failure to follow protocols.1. Failure to retract solar sails 2. Failure to establish planetary exploratory safety procedures 3. Failure to establish proper quarantine directives 4. Failure to define command override preparations5. Failure to define emergency command during hostile hostel 6. Failure to properly psychologically vetted crew 7. Failure failure I give up....89
1:02:16 She did it all in a swimsuit?! Hahahah, great!
Or it's a romper????
Michael fassbender and Danny McBride were good. Felt very sorry for billy crudup. The rest should have been issued with red jerseys.
Goddamn, an hour?? Nice! *settles in, expands mind*
I cant believe the Prometheus video was 5 years ago? Time flies when the videos are this awesome. ^_^
One of the best things about the original Alien was that Ripley was the "no, we need to follow quarantine protocol" character. It's such an annoying trope that the responsible characters are bad/misguided.
@41:40 that back ground music had me cracking up because she was building up to some epic shit that turned out to be space jesus lol
Ridley Scott is trying to tell a huge biblical story in what is effectively just a space monster movie. To schizoid - one moment David is making pompous speeches about creativity and the next moment someone is being face-fucked by an alien. At least Aliens vs Predator new what it was trying to be (not much) and didn't try too hard to have greater pretensions.
I've not found any reference to Shaw actually coming out of her cryogenic chamber alive or even conscious. This may explain David's actions in destroying the inhabitants. The reason maybe that something happened to Shaw and even though she was alive she may have been brain dead from an incompatibility with the chamber. This then caused David to take revenge.
Thanks. I couldn't understand why none of the YOUTubers who reviewed and assessed this movie never mentioned this. I assumed that I had missed something. I'll see if an informed fan comes up with something a little better in fleshing out that idea.
"Some things mean something."
CBG19 - 2017
The comment about the crew is EXACTLY what I wanted. I want to see the crew do everything right and still fail because the threat they're facing with is beyond human!
Lol. Love this review. Loved that jaw getting smacked off part yah did. Lol. Funny
Ridley invalidated every previous alien film, including his own, with Alien Covenant. No queen, cause fuck Cameron, no AVP (which was fair enough), and original alien cause that engineer (with the burst outward chest) was FOSSILISED! ergo, those eggs were old, far older than a few years, long enough for the ship and engineer corpse to fossilise.
Loved your Ripley essay and made me re-evaluate the man, but he still must have read these two scripts and and thought them good...
Tony Paulazzo if you remember in the movie, Oram asks David what the Ovomorphs are waiting and he says "a Mother". i think that the Queen will appear in the next movie. also i think that that the planet of this movie is not the real engineers planet, because the inhabitants looked different. and also i think David didnt create the xenomorph, but recreated by learning more about the enginners.
yeah nothing that happened in prometheus/covenant outright rejects a queen, and they still havent fully addressed exactly what happened with original space jockey. Also as far as "fossilization" goes, that wasn't exactly proven, was just dallas saying “Alien life form…Looks like its been dead a long time…. Fossilized. Looks like its grown out of the chair." He didnt definitely determine anything with making that observation, so maybe it was, maybe it wasnt, but again - nothing has been explicitly explained or shown regarding the original space jockey's origin. We know it shares similarities to the engineers in appearance, similarity in style of ship, had eggs in its cargo that created a similar creature to the one seen in covenant (main difference is biomech features in alien, not seen in covenant xeno) but no definitive "this space jockey species is {blank} and arrived because of {blank}" We can make educated guesses, but i'll wait to see what they do to ultimately get there, before i dismiss everything with limited information.
I went back and watched Alien (for the first time in years) and you're right, it was more an observation and my memory was mixed up with Giger interviews about that room. Giger had envisioned the ship and pilot as biomechanoid in nature (flesh on top of the bones on both ship and character which had decayed after thousands of years). As for the queen, I guess Ridley is gonna answer that age old question: Which came first; the egg or the hen? Peace.
This whole derailed thing is a set of unfortunate events and missed opportunities, he ruined it! Go home Ridley!
Is it weird that I fear all of these new Alien films are going to over explain the Xenomorphs to the point that they will lose their horrific mystery and frightful allure? Can we leave no franchise alone anymore? Or am I just bitching...
Scott should have made this movie completely unrelated to Alien.
No one would see them.
But it can't stand on its own merits because it's own merits are garbage.
The countless shitty Aliens and Aliens Vs Predator comic books, novels and video games already did that.
Watching this one again. You blew my mind when you mentioned that your Prometheus review was 5 yrs ago. My wife and I love your channel. Feeling great to have been subbed for this long 👫❤️
I started a drinking game and I'm taking a shot every time CBG19 says "you know?" I am very, very drunk right now and I'm 10 minutes!
As dumb as AvP is, it at least had the decency to NOT kill any major characters from other films offscreen. So bonus points vs Covenant and Alien 3. Plus, it had Lance Henriksen. Alien Covenant has zero Lance Henriksen. The quality of an Alien franchise sequel is proportional to the percentage of Lance Henriksen, which is why Aliens is the best sequel, it had the highest percentage of Lance Henriksen.
ChaoticApocalypse pretty sure they could've got him if they paid him like a hundred bucks and bought him lunch.
AvP was PG-13 trash that killed most characters offscreen, maybe not returning characters, but characters nonetheless. The only truly good Alien movies are the 1st and 2nd.
If you actually say that AVP was better than this film. A film with a good lead(David) and general sophistication that again, like Prometheus, leaves the audience pondering, you've solidified Ozymandias.
Pretentiousness is often confused for sophistication.
Prometheus comes out and everyone was like "Fuck this, where's the Xenomorph? This sucks." Covenant comes out and everyone is like "Fuck this, where's the Prometheus stuff? This sucks." All of the people that bitched that there was no Xenomorph in Prometheus and that it wasn't enough of an Alien film pretty much brought this on themselves. I still thought it was better than 3, Resurrection and AvP 1 and 2.
Nice video. Are you going to review the new Twin Peaks? I'm loving it so far and I know you're a fan.
Zach Hayes same, I love how weird it is
Here's a mystery for you: At no point in time during Prometheus do any of the characters, either through exposition or dialog, explain to Shaw what the black goo is. My theory is that it's because it is a poorly made movie.
All The Stellar Talent That Rid Surrounds His Set With & Not A Decent Script In Sight!!!:)
The fascinating thing about Ridley Scott is how much faster he has been working since his comeback film in 2000, Gladiator. After that, he equalled his directing output from the previous 23 years in the next ten years, and hasn't slowed down since. Something changed or clicked in for him. All he said about it was, that he thought he had worked too slowly in years past.
My respect for you, comic girl, has increased tenfold. Awesome video, keep it up!
Is Space Brain wearing a fucking romper?! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Oh, commented before the answer.
Who cares! What is CBG19 wearing?!? @01:02:18
We didn't get a xenomorph creation in this film. There is literally a large xenomorph pictograph in the canister/alter room in the movie Prometheus. They are RIGHT THERE! CARVED INTO THE SHIP'S WALL!
I've realized that Covenant is a giant condescending "fuck you" from Ridley Scott to the fans and critics of the Alien films. It feels as if David and Walter are the devil and angel, respectively, on Scott's shoulders throughout the film. One telling him that the audience is worthy of consideration and the other telling him that they're garbage and not worthy at all.
The last few minutes of Covenant tell us all we need to know, and confirm that Scott ignores Walter and aligns with David's attitudes. The last scene is, quite literally, Ridley Scott telling the audience and critics that he's offered you the goodwill of another Alien film, but now he's pivoting the series and turning it into something different; something he tried to do with Prometheus but everybody just wanted another rehashed Alien film.
The last few minutes are Scott saying: "these are my films, this is my world, and you are just along for the ride. Deal with it."
Caleb Armstrong Then Ridley was weak in giving in to the fanatics.
I kind of like that theory, but in that case I'd read Covenant as "I tried to give you a beautiful creation with Prometheus but you rejected it, so you get more Alien instead, and all the death and darkness that brings". :)
your prometheus review made me a subscriber way back when! Glad I've been there since the early days!
Grats on 5 years! Thanks for providing cool content and bringing a fresh spin on arts and comic books and sci fi.
5:30 when the review actually starts
Shpongled more like 9:48
Aye, spoke too soon haha.
I think David sees himself as God, and that is Ridley's way of saying God is a man made construct. Also, fuck the haters, Space Brain is awesome. Now that he's telekinetic he should just fuck with Robot.
"Feelin' like a Space Brain one more time tooooniighhht"-GNR-Nightrain
Where's Robot's Epic Aliens vs Predators Ass Parade Review? We've been waiting almost 5 years already!
The back bursts that erupts from 'that guy'. We had ceased to care who the victim was.
half way thru and i'm liking the review, good stuff! and you have a cool awesome cat! consider this video liked ^^
I didn't like Prometheus but I will admit it has some replay value. Alien Covenant has none, its all on the surface.
Just saw the movie. I agree with wanting to know more about the engineer civilization and what happened to Shaw.
Scott Garvey Ridley Scott really messed up and now can't go back.
A story from the minds who wrote Green Lantern and Transcendence...
Trans what? I never saw that.
It starred Johnny Depp...yeah...nobody saw it.
They should get twenty-five to life in writers jail.
That Guy: yet David S Goyer deserves at least 3 consecutive life terms in Writer's jail for his writing sins.....ugh
Zach Snyder, JJ Abrams, Bryon Singer & Michael Bay all deserve multiple life terms in director's prison for their sins....hell Snyder alone should be tried at Nurbergring for Movie Crimes lolz watching a ZS movie is like cruel and unusual punishment.
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This episode was surprisingly funny with the back and forth between the robot and the brain. Great job.:) And the subtle jabs at ppl who liked AVP.
CBG19 is a gift to the world. It's a shame that Ridley Scott ain't worth this lady's fascinatingly in depth analysis. He is merely a gifted artisan; nothing more. Hey CBG, ever thought of giving the works of David Lynch the 19 treatment? I would love it if you could unpack his apex, Mulholland Drive. Thank you so much for all of the years and years of popular cultural contextualizing you have given us.
Dude you didn't have pants on that whole time? Rompers truly are magnificent
ManOnThe Mun lol ...thought i was the only one that noticed that
I blushed when she stood up.
1:02:15 What the hell? Does CBG19 not wear pants in her vids? How many UA-camrs do pantless vids?
Blake F It's like a one piece suit bro. She's adorable. She's not pantless. Lol
Question is... would you sniff the sofa cushion?
i would lick it.
NuEnque I would let her sit on my face for hours. So yes
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We probably haven't seen the last of the Engineers. It's confirmed that David killed a different race - note their pinker skin, more human features and human eyes, and how they reacted to the arrival of the juggernaut. The planet in Covenant was likely a pit stop for David to mess around and perfect his weapon before heading for the Engineer home world with the Covenant. Or something. Who knows!
I agree 100% with your review. I wasn't too put off by all the stupid human characters and cliche bullshit, because I was kind of expecting it and I viewed it as slapstick. The one thing that pissed me off was how they killed off Shaw. I never understood why people disliked Prometheus when it had Shaw. She was an awesome character and nothing came close in Alien. She went through all that hell, proved herself in the same way Ripley did, and now she's just dead.
Also, yes, I would love to have an alien movie where the people are actually fucking competent.
These tubes brighten my day!! I love CBG 19!!!! Even tho she is not a DC fan lmao!
twist ending, she was wearing a bathing suit the whole time
Noooo! You spoiled the whole episode for me!!!!!
SCNR.
wait... was she not wearing pants throughout the entire video?
I think that this was her main selling point by the end.
lol.. thank you! And here I was thinking ... " .... wait ... am I imagining this because it doesn't seem like anybody else is calling this shit out..." LOL
23:20 YES!! That's what was great about the original Alien. They all wore helmets and protective gear. Ripley tries to enforce quarantine, but is over-ridden by Ash, who has his own private agenda with the company. That one character does something dumb, by letting the cat go, which will set off the tracker again, but his buddy immediately tells him he's an idiot. Believable characters. Why is it so hard to write?
Covenant is completely antithetical to the original. When a character dies, you feel absolutely nothing. Nothing was even remotely scary or thrilling about it. Yeah, David was a cool, evil robot, and the visuals were nice, but that's all it has going for it.
Awesome review - I felt it was made just for me - I've rewatched Prometheus and Covenant several times and I'm a bit of a theology geek, but never bothered to try to look for parallels. A very niche audience for a movie review, but I'm glad I found it. It was a fascinating list of parallels.
"I want to see a crew do everything right and still fail." Preach sister. I went to a late showing of this movie and i was pretty much alone in the theater, so i was able to talk to the screen under my breath. I got steadily more annoyed as i kept watching them walk around with no helmets and just touch stuff. It pissed me off they were so shocked people were infected with some unknown pathogen.
Yeah, but this film seriously fucked up the potential of the lore from the 1970s Alien movie. All that mystery and wonder about the Alien species, what they are capable of, if they can bring down another race with technology far more advanced than ours, what chance do we have? And this fucking movie just decides a man-made android is responsible for it all. Fuck that.
When the review is so long you end up taking your pants off to be comfy 1:02:18
FYI. Ridley hates the Queen lifecycle it wasn't part of his Alien film. Egg-morphing was his answer to how eggs were made. #NerdAlert.
ridley can have a coke and a smile, cus he didnt write alien. the story isnt his, all he did was direct it. cammeron actually wrote aliens. thats his baby and he perfected what the original writers of Alien created. that being said,both movies are masterpieces.
That was indeed an epic review! Love your work CB19
Wow just clicked the video randomly and Hmm Nice hair cut, I liked it.
it seems appropriate. Engineers create humans, humans create David and David ends the cycle by destroying the creator of his creator.
Jonathan Lewis yep.
David didn't create the xenomorph until 2103, so how come there's Xenomorph looking murals in the Engineers ships (Alien & Prometheus)? Did the Xenomorph actually existed before and the Engineers just want to recreate it?
Nanna Leifa because he most likely wasn't the only one that created them. Even in the Alien movies there were different species of the xenos. Alien 1 and isolation has xenos that used hosts to create eggs (no queen). Alien 2 had a hive set up and alien 3 had a dog version (or a cow depending on what version you see). Alien resurrection had some weird human live birth etc. Point is, David created a type of xeno. The engineer ship that Ripley and the crew found in Alien 1 looks like it has been there a lot older than 18 years (Covenant takes place 2109, Alien takes place 2122) meaning the xenos there were most likely created from someone else or from a different group of engineers. or that's how I see it anyway unless Ridley Scott tries to link the two series directly in the next movie.
Dimi Done oh sorry I meant what the face hugger grabbed. one version (common) it was the dog. but in another version it was a cow (directors or extended). Xeno still looks the same in both versions but the point was more that there have been different "species" of the xenos in both series so David the droid most likely isn't the original creator of the xeno. I know I'm grabbing at straws here but it's the way I see it.
I think it's pretty much impossible trying to connect the new Alien franchise to the original movie without plot holes/retcon at this point. Unless someone would came out with good explanation of why the technology of the original Alien looks significantly behind the times despite being the future of Alien Covenant and still presumably on the same continuity.
Well, the new films are basically soft reboot anyway, so no more questions right? Just like the new Star Trek!
I still maintain that both this and PROMETHEUS would have been much better served if they were unrelated to the ALIEN franchise. Sure, keep Weyland-Yutani, but don't involve the xenomorphs because explaining that they were purpose-made undermines the cosmic, unknowable nature of them and actively makes the older movies WORSE.
No question about it. But the only way this thing would be greenlitt is if it's tied to the Alien franchise (as studio smelled sepparate trilogy franchise potential) and more importantly Ridley based it all on the question we were all asking oure selfs who the hell is the big guy in the "chair" in Alien, of course we didn't need the answer, cause it ruins the mystery and ruined the mystery is exactly what they did, turning a creepy giant advanced humanoid (notice atleast 2-3 times LARGER than the pale bodybuilder we got in Prometheus) into a midnless killing mashine, unintresting AF. And to breake something that was broken allready, they crowbarred this potential wonderfull SF film into an Alien prequal. And if ruining 1 great character wosn't enough they pritty much made David the creator of the queen and the xeno (obviously they forgot we allready saw a xeno in the Prometheus mural, talk about idiotic and total disreguard of continuation). x(
The best part for me of Comic girls review of this movie is the Biblical symbolism and Ridley Scott's internal struggle of god and creation. It was fascinating to hear comic girl talk about it. I had no idea it could get deep.
OG Prometheus video was what got me into your channel :)