That and they can’t haul as much
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That was 100% operator fault!
Yep
Also the owner for not having a liner in the floor. They are tricky for a guy like in the video
Si Señor
specially if it was 🧊
No
@@brian_2040 What if the owner was the driver? lol.
I’ve been pulling dump trailers for 30 years and still ain’t rolled one but by god there’s been some close calls.
Are belly dumps or side dumps better?
Rolled exactly 1 so far and that one the welds that held the tounge to the 5th wheel plate broke on one side and caused it to rock to the side while it was in the air and snap the piston. Heh not a good day.
Sad thing is the company checked with a laser level to see if i screwed up. The ground where it went over was nearly perfectly level and was in a damn rock bin.
I can confirm that those close calls left a shitstain in them seat
I can vouch for that. I retired after 30 years of dumpers, driving through Canada year round. Frozen loads made my heart skip a beat or two....🙏👍🏼
@@arcticfox5118 that wasn’t your fault.
If the back end isn’t absolutely level, don’t even bother to start.
That's Right
How to level
Not true…we don’t live in that world…
You either have it or you don’t…period
How tf are you gonna be leveled at the dump or at a construction site
you can't always gat level. you need to make sure it comes out and evenly.
You just have to know how to use your equipment.. Here in the southeast U.S. most tow rigs are end dumps. I never see side dumps..
Lots of belly dumps also.
I've seen plenty of side dumpers in Eugene OR, loaded, and empty. Wildish Construction, and Egge Sand & Gravel are 2 of the oldest I can recall seeing.
Side dumps go over all the time. But it’s no big deal. Most the time
@@robgeronimo8478They absoutely do not go over
I like both of them!
It helps to open the tailgate first .I use them all day .
Me too I had that happen to me once we were tipping on unstable ground the digger operator was told to keep his bucket in my bin until it was empty and he didn’t 😢
O, I think that you are on to something, I thought it was open by the little bit of dirt that was on the ground they were backed up to, but when it hit the ground you see the gate pop open 🤔
Took that ride before. Not fun at all.
They're dumping on asphalt! This looks more like a test facility looking at overloading and eccentric loads.
Rookie
It's amazing what happens when you unlock the gate. Been using end dumps for years. No problems
Look closer, the gate is open.
@@DauminiqueTheDumpTruckDriver Yes, it's open but there's something in front of the gate that's blocking the door or is that misleading on the video?
I’d rather have a barn door instead of a swing gate.
My municipal street department found this out the hard way.
They used to park some of the plow trucks in cold storage filed with salt/sand mix not realizing the sand freezes.
Well, they found out one truck they raised the box and it tipped the box over. Snapped the ram.
That’s operator error
It's actually kinda necessary to be a wee bit brighter than what you're working with
So he's dumber than a box of rocks 🎉🎉🎉!!
You have to get them on the level before you even start lifting
and you shouldn't be dumping up hill
@@davidsignor7931i do that daily, no probem with doing that. Every day on a 8% incline for the last 12years
@@davidsignor7931 I did that today. First stage I noticed it leaning so I repositioned and no lean but still up hill. 3 loads no problems
I said you shouldn't not you can't
@@davidsignor7931 have you done any tipper work mate
Talk about a Bad day at the office
Right?
They should have stopped when it lifted crooked
Yep.. when mine starts up if the front of that bed starts to twist , I put her back down
Yep
@BuckeyeFan-ty4vr
Exactly, some people don't have any sense! 🫣. I watch my leveler, and at the 1st hint I drop her and reposition.
Should have never started WITHOUT UNLOCKING the gate!!
Before you raise the box more than 10 feet you back up and hit the brakes to shift the load backwards and loosen the contents a bit then you resume raising the box, paying attention to how the load is dispersing! Occasionally you need to jolt the load to keep it moving before you raise it all the way up!
Thanks for the tip man!! This is a dream job for me
That's a great tip
Yeppers, 3rd stage and ain't got the first pebble on the ground yet; 🫣🫣😮,........🫡 (here's your sign) 😂
OPEN Your Tailgate Before You even engage pto😉😉
Vrkhudjhdmjrkieisiekdkirkie🎉😮rd@@candicebrown9157
Hey boss .... I dumped the dirt.
how many loads have you tipped today? how come wee jimmy has done 6 loads and youv only done 4?
Load was struck....driver should have noticed this ....but this does happen if your not paying attention to your dumping.... I haul end dump🇨🇦 and I'm always watching the trailer when dumping 😎
Yep that mill scale and coke is the worst also B scrap. I hate that shit..
You said it.... Pay attention.
Well goooodd fer yewww!!!
Make yt videos
Load wasn’t stuck. It was leaning from the beginning.
looking at it my view the tailgate was not open and was not letting the material fully out plus the gate being stuck behind the small pile did not help at all and guy was just dumping not paying attention and did not check the gate before dumping to make sure he had a good enough clearance then when bed went up the material was just staying there bc it had no were to go so if i was a truck driver caring a end dump i would recommend adding a quicksilver bed liner in the back then the materal can start slinding out by the 2nd to the 3rd stage
I was told there is two kind of end dump drivers,ones that have been over,and ones that are going over.
Yup
Just like sailors those who've run aground and those who are going to.
Pulled end dumps for 20 years never came close to flopping one.
its true i pull a end dump im not stupid enough too over load or dump on uneven ground
@@donziperk lies
Center of gravity...🤣
I run a 2022 quad axle kenworth t880s with an tebco aluminum dump body. 25,900 empty weight. Hauling 27 ton. And I’d take a 85 359 with an end dump any day.
Fast forward 9 months. Running an end dump with a 379 Pete!
I own 5 of them. I’ve had short and long. Currently run 32ft tubs. Pulled them since 1987. I’ve tipped one. There are a few basic tricks.
A local company trucked in dry fertilizer during season for the company I worked for. And it all cane in on dump trailers. They were fourty footers with full frames. The drivers were very picky and careful with the operation of their trailers. They had their tricks, and they must work since they never dumped a trailer at our facility.
@@ronfullerton3162 I’ll dump a load every 30 minutes sometimes so we don’t have time to level or even get out of truck. A 40 ft over road trailer has to be level and loaded right and even watch the wind. These guys may dump only once or twice a day. They use those where I live to haul road salt I use to do that.
@@Peterbilt359 The guys hauling into me had an hour drive both to and back from the river terminal to pickup the fertilizer. Urea and dap both unload very good. We had to use the small door in the tail gate because we unloaded into a chain link conveyor that fed a bucket leg. The drivers would raise just enough to cause more product to roll down, then drop the trailer some. It was indeed a slow unload as to what you evidently had to do. When they hauled potash, it didn't flow as well, and sometimes would bridge up if there were too much fines. They just had to watch a little closer. Hats off to the men of Bell's Ready Mix that did such a wonderful job of keeping me running in season when rail service was not fast enough during the crunch. Good drivers are a very big plus for the customers they serve.
I own 5 tricks, possibly share yours?
@@Peterbilt359very unsafe to say you don’t have time to be level … not that much rushing in the world. You won’t have equipment to work with if you keep living by that statement
The company I worked for had 10 end dumps one was a frame less it was the only one that flipped after that it was replaced regular end dump trailer
That's going to leave a mark🤣🤣
Happen to me first week on job😅 literally had us backing in the field with single axle
That's why you hire smart truckdrivers that open the gate on flat ground
Dump level problem solved
Obviously, they don't know what it is or have never seen one! Lol😂
Pretty much anything from the east coast to the Midwest uses end dumps. When you get out west is when you start seeing belly dumps and side dumps. Out there they have pretty much made everything to suite them. But not out east. They'll look at you a little weird if you pull up with a belly dump with anything but a grain hopper.
The building lots aren't set up like out west I guess. I've never seen anything but end dump from Maine to Florida
There is nothing wrong with end dumps. Operator has check out during dumping and dumping is a critical operation.
Have to keep that trailer level.
I could haul 24 tons on my spread axle ravens legal, however I didn’t pay much attention to that. I hauled sweet corn beans wheat corn mulch but never hauled dirt in it I don’t even remember ever hauling stones it it I had tried axles for that
Only two types of end dump frameless drivers: Have and gonna!
Never
Way to Go..perfect
I hauled end dumps for 5 years and never had a problem. Of course we sprayed our dumps with diesel back in the days so our load wouldn't stick especially in the winter.
All aggregate loads, you diesel them down?
We still do with cold mix and others.
Be on level ground is number one and most important rule in my opinion. Though I have seen some end dumps tip on level ground.
Probably very windy day, even if it is level
@angelmunoz3462 could have been a flat tire to. That's why I check my tires before dumping. Also a vital component may have failed to due to improper maintenance.
The video description says can't haul as much? The point is end dumps generally can haul more than a standard dump truck, can carry more weight and dump faster. They all have their place, but yes end dumps can be the most dangerous compared to dump trucks or bellies.
I cant tell you how many nightmares iv had of roll overs
We had one go over in our yard once with 43tone on.
All we use in Aus are end dumps.
Some mines have side tippers, especially out west but yeah mostly
I pull an end dump trailer in Minnesota. We have Federal Bridge laws which means the typical quad axle dump truck can haul about 17.5 to 18 tons and quint can haul between 19.5 to 20. I haul material for asphalt plants and get paid by weight. I can haul 26.25 with end dump.
Light weight! Up in Ontario you’ll see a tri axle dump truck over the scale with 22.5-23.5 t payload all day long.
@@gixxer1000rr Yep, I agree, but that's the maximum allowed by law. If you go over and are caught, the fines are SIGNIFICANT!! In a Federal Bridge Law State, the maximum weight of a triaxle is 57,000 lbs, a quad is 63,000 and a quint axle is 69,000. For a semi truck is 80,000 lbs. I have an overweight permit and can run 84,000 lbs for a maximum net payload of about 27.5 tons.
@@gixxer1000rr Those numbers are GROSS maximum weight, NOT payload.
Looks like myself after a hard days work at 65 !
Now it's a SIDEDUMP😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
It looked like the truck was on level ground but the trailer was way overloaded! I pull end dumps and highsides in California. We don't have combinations like Dauminique and are limited 80,000lbs so we bridged the gap between a super and a transfer.
Love the song with this😂😂😂
I hauled wood chips from woods to canton NC. They had a huge lift that would pick whole truck up. We used dry vans with wire doors no roof.
He's got it now
May have been a good idea to Open Doors before lifting Box??
It open
I know that feeling 🙄😂
The song 😂
I used to pull a frameless aluminum dump. From what I remember it was one of lightest dump trailers out, which means it could carry the most product. Also, I've never flipped one, but I've had my butt puckering a few times due to how much they sway when the load doesn't come out all at once...
I hear ya man me too ! Pop the gate ! The drunkin sailer is the icing !
I had one guy tried to spread clay on a curve in the road. Lol. Yup. Over he went.
That's one way to dump it...😂😂😂
Side dump supremacy! End dumps ate for slick things like fresh apple pumice
One week experience 😂
That's what real truckers pull behind em...takes true skill,flat ground and no high winds. My favorite trailer
I've been running end dump now 4 months now I've never done this before I've got 18 years trucking all otr this is new to me I'm loving it as long as u pay attention to what your doing this won't happen
I feel like if he let it down another four or five feet, he might have saved it.
Gotta be level, I never had a frameless my trailer was from the early 60s and my truck was a 68....had a nice frame on it but I still made sure I was level and wouldn't raise this high unless I was on pavement ....call me cautious but that was 1995 and all of our stuff was repaired with farmers wire....
When your at the 3rd stage and shit hasn't dropped out yet;..... here's you're sign!! 😂😅.......
Its not the end dump...its the driver...or should I say lack of !!
all i can hear i s that guy yelling hey miguel
Been using end dumps for years. Never laid one over. Have had them dancing but staid upright
I drove tractor trailer end dumps for 2 years around Dallas and Ft Worth in the early 90's. Loved the job. Was fortunate to never turn one over. 28' and 32' aluminum frame less Mates, 36' 44 yard Full frame CPS and my favorite was a 37' Lufkin Featherlite. Hauling on a job site bringing in fill dirt. The spotter spotted three trucks side by side. I watched them domino over. Yep, shut that job down!!
I did end dumps for 5 years. Its perfectly safe as long as youre level and pay attentio.
Welp he unloaded that faster then he was supposed to
#That is #crazy!
Brilliant
I hate it when that happens. That’s exactly why I won’t pull an end dump trailer.
It’s sketchy
Now you got a Twisted frame😂
The full frame end dumps 32 feet or less in length are a lot more stable, but everybody wants that extra payload a long frameless trailer will give them….until you have to dump on a windy day, then all that extra profit is laying on the ground twisted and smashed to pieces.
I checked with shops before buying one, and they seem to get more frame type on springs in for rebuilding/ repair after incidents. Take care and good luck out there.
@@carlcarlamos9055 I can’t say for sure why that would be, I can only speak to my experience operating and working around them. I have a few guesses though, one is that an air ride frameless trailer has far fewer components to repair or wear out in the first place since the “tub” itself is pretty much all the structure there is and changing air bags and torque arms is such an easy job most would do it themselves. Second is that when a frameless trailer does go over loaded it’s usually totaled at that point because the actual dump body which is also the entire structure of the trailer ends up twisted, bent, cracked or otherwise damaged to a point it’ll never be “right” again whereas a in a frame type trailer often the frame and suspension are O.K. And the body can have sections cut out and repaired without the concern that it’ll never track straight again or one of those welds or replacement metal pieces failing will cause an accident because a structural part of the trailer failed. But in any case, I appreciate the well-wishes and as you said the number one thing is to just “be safe out there”. As long as you know the limitations of your equipment and operate it safely within those limits then you’ll likely never have an issue to begin with.
If you turn over a framed trailer your truck is going with it
Takes some sense to operate those.
Small dumps fall too had one fall today 😢
This shown side dump function looks to work really well 😂😂😂
Ive never ran dump trailers, only trucks but a box vibrator has helped me out in similar situations. Along with some adaptation to the situation.
You forgot to open the back door of the trailer bump😅😅😅😅
Definitely looks overloaded
10 yrs never tipped one, but it takes a safe and patient driver.
I pulled end dumps for 7 year + been driving 39 , we call them frameless but u have to use commons sense b on level ground to dump them all, u dam sure better b paying attention, hey y’all a great day 😊
There is a lot more going on with that trailer I’ve been running end dump for years something is up with that trailer other than it looked like the gate wasn’t unlocked until it fell over but it could of had a bent arms or the ram but they don’t just lean like that for no reason
God bless you all and stay safe overall
thats exactly why I dont pull one. Once upon a time I drove a garbage truck where it froze in the nose overnight and damn near tipped over. That was about the last time
We had 4 or 5 at my work and we got rid of all of them except 1 and its just used around the pit. I always loved when it would be loaded and up in the air and coming down the filter check relief valve would fail and the threads and filter would get ripped off and down she comes and out comes 20-30 gallons of hyd fluid. Easy to work on though.
They are a very easy trailer to use I have a demolition trailer and I have no problem with it
Pup's tip over too
The biggest issue here was that the trailer is intended for light loads and it looks like it was loaded with coarse gravel
I've only ever seen dump trucks and trailers dump from the back
Thanks!
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Love all the open gates first comments. Its a sticky load issue. We were on a job in the winter in below freezing temps and belly dumps were being loaded with wet pit run and the loads froze solid. Same issue here. Very wet load.
I think he forgot to do something first...like open the doors 😂
My father had that happen to him probably 25 years ago now in a 359 with a dump trailer totaled the trailer but the truck dident roll so insurance didn’t total it but it still bent the frame ripped air lines and poped some of the tires and bent the rims
My end dump is a belt trailer😊
This can happen with a regular dump truck too tho. My old man was a dump truck driver Owner op for about 10 years. 1st rule of dumpin is make sure youre on level ground.
It’s awesome when that happens it’s very exciting
You can definitely feel it when you first raise the bed up if your not level. The bed sorta jerks upwards as the bed separates from the rail frame on the truck.
Seen this happen to a driver over loaded with hurricane debris. He was on his fone & not paying attention. How a driver doesn't see or even feel the trailer leaning I will never understand.
You should always know your load and how it was loaded before you run a dump trailer it is an art to running one of those I used to do things with those trailers that would scare the average person
Even after it flopped, the majority stayed in the box, it was frozen.
been there done that once the lean starts there is only one thing to do hold on because its going over
Drive forward then stop hard to send the weight to the back, then tip slowly while driving forward very slowly ⚠️
might help to only raise body about half way up and shift load back/out before topping off
The load was damp. Probably not sheeted overnight, you got big probs then DOH!!!
It's not the end dump it's the driver