Dear OP, Catherine never for gave you for rejecting her three way early in your 'friendship'. I know you might think she did and I'm sure she said she did. She was just holding on to you. She was angry and wanted to play the long revenge game. This is how obsessive and manipulative people think. The stalking confirmed it. To her, you rejected her love.
I don't have any events involving romance in ffxiv, but boy, I have one with WoW. I met a guy when I enter a new guild, since my last one was ending in a complete chaos, and I though 'Oh, this gus is cool, he's nice, kind, caring...' Made new friends, our group were really close to each other. It had a couple and another guy, so we decided to do Mythic Dungeons and raids, and boy... I was not interested, but endend doing anyway. I don't know when me and this first guy, I'll call him Jack (I don't even remember his name lmao), start to liking each other, but we did and started to date. At first, everything okay, everything good! But then, one day Jack started to arguing with me, saying I was doing my rotation wrong and stuff like that, even yelling to me shut up, everything in front of our three friends. I'll resume, we did broke up, he was really toxic and our friends endend to move away from him too, staying with me. Several years later, I droped WoW and one day, one friend of this group came to me saying "I can't believe, Jack was a fake." In other words, I dated a fake lol (Looking back now, idk I never doubuting him, he said he had a owl. living in a apartament. IN A BIG CITY.) Also, sorry for my english, isn't my first language!
Shamed to admit I've had troublesome events involved with romance on ff14. People just be lonely on there I guess. At this point I just want friends to do content with but I have a hard time or get exhausted trying to get into groups to play.
Yea me too tbh. I've only been able to find close relationships with maybe like 2 people who barely play anymore and everyone else has drifted away over time. I just want some friends 😭 logging into the game makes me feel so lonely when there's no one to play with
Honestly, I cannot judge OP cuz I have been there before. It really is true, seeds planted can sow the worst plants. I don't know how she presented the situation to her mans when Catherine sowed that seed, but maybe if she explained from the beginning who Catherine was and how she was, maybe he would have not listened to her. I also have the motto that if you believed some total stranger over me who'm you have known longer, than I don't have anything to say to you. Just means you never believed or trusted my character from the beginning. He has to remember he allowed that seed to grow in his mind and grow into an ugly flower before deciding to try and tackle it. OP isn't telling us how he was with her and I can only imagine as someone who has experienced all different types of relationships. If her mans didn't give her a space for her to be vulnerable, then how can she confide in him how she feels? Sure, she could have told him and let it fall on deaf ears, but whose to say she didn't? Whose to say he would have listened? I honestly think she should have stayed and not move. But, at least she can say she tried everything before giving it ALL up. Welcome to Aether and happy OP came to her senses ♥
I have similar story happened to me but it doesn't involve love I honestly relate to her and agree always trust your gut feeling when I comes to red flags
from how passively they discarded crazy cathy to make a new group I knew they were weak should have cut it off as soon as the ERP was offered if you were so offended. xD Yeah if you were loyal to the BF you wouldn't have had just you and Derek time especially if Craig was saying things like "I trust you, I just don't trust that guy" and you wouldn't be sharing your hurt feelings with someone that is not your guy imagine the raction of the 1st bf if you ahd let him know this. Feel bad for Craig he fought for a bit but Op kept running with Derek. She's not nearly as crazy as Cathy but she's still a piece of shyt for that behavior, it is what it is; common people common actions and things carry on. Just goes to show you become the company you keep.
Good thing social pressure never worked on me back then. Freaks shipped me with my own brother. Weirdoes... Bro and I are best friends and I guess these peeps in his class watched WAAAAY too much anime and seriously wrote fics about us. It was f--kin weird.
Honestly, OP says she's not innocent, but if things really went as she claimed, she was set up by Catherine, Craig pushed OP away because he bought into Catherine's doubt-sewing, OP considered cheating, and certainly crossed that line emotionally, but she did everything she could to be loyal to Craig as he was pushing her away, and even then did not violate trust by going around behind his back. OP was clear with Deryk that she was taken, he focused on his own relationship in turn, and in the end nothing even happened. Sounds like OP was just wronged through and through, though this story reeks of omitted details imo, I get the feeling there's a lot more to this.
Nah, OP's right, she's definitely not innocent. Doesn't matter if someone's trying to sabotage your relationship by sowing doubt, if you considered cheating, and you lean into those thoughts, those are _your_ actions, not just the saboteur's. She threw her relationship away because someone threw a half-baked lie in her boyfriend's ear... clearly her feelings weren't _that_ strong after all.
@rugalbernstein5913 I think some really frank and open conversations were needed once she acknowledged her desire for Deryk, but I personally blame Craig more than anyone else. He didn't trust his partner's word, got suspicious based on a stranger's transparent pot-stirring, he pushed OP away, and then when she got tired of feeling alone while with him he suddenly wanted OP back. To me it's mostly just a case of a lack of real trust and then regret on Craig's part when distancing himself from OP met its logical conclusion. If you don't pay attention to your partner there's always someone else out there who would love to show them a better time.
@@FishSkeleton- so say you got a bf... the bf makes a new lady friend, they become close and you start to doubt him, you communicate that the other girl makes you uncomfy that you do not trust her with him, but he hangs out with her anyways and get even closer. Is it now your fault if he leans more into the girl that makes you uncomfy?
@ShxpxRok Your premise completely ignores how OP kept trying to spend time with their boyfriend while he continued to push her away, despite knowing she was speaking with another man a lot.
@@FishSkeleton- people now a days just don't get it... When you are in a relationship with someone you don't get to just do whatever you want. If something makes your partner uncomfy and you keep doing that thing you are just being an a-hole. Getting distant isn't right but giving your partner cause to question trust in you is just as bad if not worse. If you say that he should have just trusted her, look at the outcome of the relationship.
Why is it always catgirls are always ERP and harass others for it, I've had this before many times from catgirl players, always sending me weird tell messages.
One, miqote fits in the anime/hentai fantasy crap they're into while not completely looking too normal like a human. Two, the body heights in genders of all races made miqote more balanced and desirable. Of course now there's more vieras, au'ras in ERP too 😂 Three, these horny bishes pm you because you're a handsome looking cat boy or you're in limsa.....😂
Part of me thinks that Catherine wanted to break OP and her Boyfriend up so OP wouldn't have a reason to reject her advances.. Bur revenge also makes sense..
I have played WoW for years and once in a blue you'd hear a story like this but nothing compared to the stuff you hear about that goes on in this game, I have even been in some crazy dramas myself with my time playing ff14 and it's crazy. I will say this if it doesn't involve you it can be very amusing to witness.
Ff14 community are the most lonely and unhinged people I have ever met in an online community 🤣 It's like all the stalkers, catfishes and pedos decided that xiv was the perfect place to settle down. 10 Years of xiv and I finally unsubbed and started playing other mmos, it's not the same game it was 4-5 years ago, the drama is out of control and mods have literally infected every single part of the game, most people don't even finish the msq before they get dragged into erp and turn into complete degenerates because of how hard the unhinged community pushes people into modding and sexual activities. P.s. how are you pathra \o/ have seen you since I left SeeD and moved back to materia dc
I been thinking about this a lot and I came to the conclusion that erp is just what it is. However, it can be considered cheating to other people so if you want to engage in that activity with people who are taken ( or your taken your self) you need to find out what their lovers opinion is on it, and respect other people's wishes.
I don't really like these drama stories. I'm sure part of it is true but most of them seem all made up...borderline wattpad stories. I hope Pathra is able to filter these cringe stories because they seem to be like daytime soap operas. Would be juicier if they provide receipts...
Kinda feel sorry for Catherine, from the sound of it, she either developed an addiction or something happened to her growing up, like another friend of mine. And became hyper sexual because of "SA". Either way she really needs to seek help Also Op shouldnt feel bad about having feelings for another man. Her boyfriend is the one to blame and chose to ruin his relationship with op over lies.
24:30 --- I dont know... if a boyfriend demanded I chance DC for him to prove my loyalty, I would be like "sure, you pay, buddy". To talk about "emotions" about a datacenter... especially since OP already said, she didnt have many friends there... whats the difference? She could change to an empty server and get a house there. Sure, we're still talking ShB, I think, so DC travel wasnt a thing, but even if she had friends there, she could create an alt or stay in contact via Discord... Nah, I dont see the drama in this. All in all really wholesome :) I cant remember how I was early in my MMO career but now... yeah... I dont tell people personal stuff. They may know I have siblings or a pet, maybe the rough location of where I live... but its all very vague, and I'll never share my picture, let alone my name. There are and always were too many weirdos on the Internet. This is no general accusation but just go with the premisse that you should'nt share online what you wouldnt tell a random stranger on the street. Online friendships are great, but they are just that: online. Though it works sometimes and people find the love of their life, to me pure online relationships arent "real". Or rather, cant be real: you can never really and truly know a person, not even irl - but its so much easier to put up a front online. Be cautios out there.
Well…when the boyfriend thought to keep his distance from the girl that likes him, is bound to fade out. I feel like OP’s boyfriend is at fault for the lack of communication. Sooo…only now he wakes up to reality when he notices the OP is developing feelings for another guy? what did you expect bro? :/ Come on… I was literally rooting for you both.
Yeah, at that point I was like, just break up with Craig and go to Deryk, it's clear Craig isn't putting in the effort so why stay? Her indecisiveness is the only part which was her fault, imo
Stories like these make it so my skin crawls every time anyone even remotely tries to RP to me. No thank you. Pass. I’m just here for the MSQ. It’s even worse when people RP as game characters and start to send sexy messages to people “in character”, like, nah bro. The character you’re RP’ing was wholesome and nice and cool and you’re not it. The internet has some very sick individuals and FFXIV isn’t immune to that. 😮💨 (This was in relation to the initial setup, OP trying to get RP’d with btw lol rest of the story is just 🤯🤦🏻♂️)
I love Rp'ing and have become so attached to my character due to rp. However, I've never ERP'ed in FF. Those people are so open with it that it feels like IMVU. (Thats ignoring peoples IMVU-ass mods) If you even remotely like anything like Dnd or storyboarding, don't let the weirdos ruin your fun. If you ever give RP a try there are many wholesome people you can let your creativity run with.
@pwincesskrissy2557 Literally isn't but okay. Its about as much as cheating as watching porn is. If you're not sharing personal information it can never leave the game. And I don't think erp is enough to annul a marriage unless you can cite me a case where it did.
Most normal Miqo behavior
Catherine sounds like a energy vampire too
Lmao!!! 😂
I said the EXACT same thing!!
Yup. OP Definitely tried staying away from Derek. 100%. That's why he keeps being brought up, right?
I agree, these ppl that post are human, but damn they don't realize they are some garbage too lol. They just want the attention on yt, meh.
Dear OP,
Catherine never for gave you for rejecting her three way early in your 'friendship'. I know you might think she did and I'm sure she said she did. She was just holding on to you. She was angry and wanted to play the long revenge game. This is how obsessive and manipulative people think. The stalking confirmed it. To her, you rejected her love.
Sounds like unhealthy her-problem
Average online couple description!! ^^^^
Left crystal to join aether raiders. Most tame ff14 behavior lol
Lesson is the hornier a person is, the more vindictive they could be
ERP is cheating. Eww. There's like 30 year old men in discord voice trying to ERP as cat girls without even asking I want to participate. RUN!!!
I don't have any events involving romance in ffxiv, but boy, I have one with WoW. I met a guy when I enter a new guild, since my last one was ending in a complete chaos, and I though 'Oh, this gus is cool, he's nice, kind, caring...'
Made new friends, our group were really close to each other. It had a couple and another guy, so we decided to do Mythic Dungeons and raids, and boy... I was not interested, but endend doing anyway. I don't know when me and this first guy, I'll call him Jack (I don't even remember his name lmao), start to liking each other, but we did and started to date.
At first, everything okay, everything good! But then, one day Jack started to arguing with me, saying I was doing my rotation wrong and stuff like that, even yelling to me shut up, everything in front of our three friends. I'll resume, we did broke up, he was really toxic and our friends endend to move away from him too, staying with me.
Several years later, I droped WoW and one day, one friend of this group came to me saying "I can't believe, Jack was a fake." In other words, I dated a fake lol (Looking back now, idk I never doubuting him, he said he had a owl. living in a apartament. IN A BIG CITY.)
Also, sorry for my english, isn't my first language!
This sounds like a group of people who have yet to get their shit together
Craig and Derek are literally "you vs the guy she tells you not to worry about" to a tee xD
Facts. That's why I'm against people having friends of the opposite sex when they're in relationships..smh.
@@ShadowDancer_ Nah...that's just emotional immaturity...
@ken54525 five of my female friends tried to sleep with me just because they got mad at their significant-other...
@@ShadowDancer_ doesn't work if you're bi or gay tho unfortunately
@@orion.6 but that's not the *majority* of cases.
Shamed to admit I've had troublesome events involved with romance on ff14. People just be lonely on there I guess. At this point I just want friends to do content with but I have a hard time or get exhausted trying to get into groups to play.
Yea me too tbh. I've only been able to find close relationships with maybe like 2 people who barely play anymore and everyone else has drifted away over time. I just want some friends 😭 logging into the game makes me feel so lonely when there's no one to play with
Yeah, I solo play most of the time anyways. Never really been able to make friends on there. Then again I’m not much of a talker to begin with
Honestly, I cannot judge OP cuz I have been there before. It really is true, seeds planted can sow the worst plants. I don't know how she presented the situation to her mans when Catherine sowed that seed, but maybe if she explained from the beginning who Catherine was and how she was, maybe he would have not listened to her. I also have the motto that if you believed some total stranger over me who'm you have known longer, than I don't have anything to say to you. Just means you never believed or trusted my character from the beginning. He has to remember he allowed that seed to grow in his mind and grow into an ugly flower before deciding to try and tackle it. OP isn't telling us how he was with her and I can only imagine as someone who has experienced all different types of relationships. If her mans didn't give her a space for her to be vulnerable, then how can she confide in him how she feels? Sure, she could have told him and let it fall on deaf ears, but whose to say she didn't? Whose to say he would have listened? I honestly think she should have stayed and not move. But, at least she can say she tried everything before giving it ALL up. Welcome to Aether and happy OP came to her senses ♥
Wait till the stories about the ERP vibrators start coming up🤣
I know of a couple actually, some of the most funny shit I ever heard.
@@TheEvilMinion the Internet links on them🤣
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WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT
Bro what dont sound dumb
I wish there was a camera pov for the main characters of the story’s while they hear pathra sharing the Op story
Lord some people are just unhinged.
It is way to normal and happen more often then people think I should or do
I have similar story happened to me but it doesn't involve love I honestly relate to her and agree always trust your gut feeling when I comes to red flags
bf and I were doing a workout while listening to the story and PHEW girl my arms are tired and so is my brain lmfaooo💀I love how messy this all is
I'm hospitalized but man, this video was entertaining and made my day lol. Glad to know that OP is happy now tho!
from how passively they discarded crazy cathy to make a new group I knew they were weak should have cut it off as soon as the ERP was offered if you were so offended. xD
Yeah if you were loyal to the BF you wouldn't have had just you and Derek time especially if Craig was saying things like "I trust you, I just don't trust that guy" and you wouldn't be sharing your hurt feelings with someone that is not your guy imagine the raction of the 1st bf if you ahd let him know this.
Feel bad for Craig he fought for a bit but Op kept running with Derek. She's not nearly as crazy as Cathy but she's still a piece of shyt for that behavior, it is what it is; common people common actions and things carry on. Just goes to show you become the company you keep.
Good thing social pressure never worked on me back then. Freaks shipped me with my own brother. Weirdoes... Bro and I are best friends and I guess these peeps in his class watched WAAAAY too much anime and seriously wrote fics about us. It was f--kin weird.
thats wild
I thought I was too sprout to know which alliance had laser, 20 seconds later I remembered I died to one. So THAT one probably
Crystal DC catgirl go brrrr
As someone who used to play on a crystal... You're not wrong.
Honestly, OP says she's not innocent, but if things really went as she claimed, she was set up by Catherine, Craig pushed OP away because he bought into Catherine's doubt-sewing, OP considered cheating, and certainly crossed that line emotionally, but she did everything she could to be loyal to Craig as he was pushing her away, and even then did not violate trust by going around behind his back. OP was clear with Deryk that she was taken, he focused on his own relationship in turn, and in the end nothing even happened. Sounds like OP was just wronged through and through, though this story reeks of omitted details imo, I get the feeling there's a lot more to this.
Nah, OP's right, she's definitely not innocent. Doesn't matter if someone's trying to sabotage your relationship by sowing doubt, if you considered cheating, and you lean into those thoughts, those are _your_ actions, not just the saboteur's. She threw her relationship away because someone threw a half-baked lie in her boyfriend's ear... clearly her feelings weren't _that_ strong after all.
@rugalbernstein5913 I think some really frank and open conversations were needed once she acknowledged her desire for Deryk, but I personally blame Craig more than anyone else. He didn't trust his partner's word, got suspicious based on a stranger's transparent pot-stirring, he pushed OP away, and then when she got tired of feeling alone while with him he suddenly wanted OP back. To me it's mostly just a case of a lack of real trust and then regret on Craig's part when distancing himself from OP met its logical conclusion. If you don't pay attention to your partner there's always someone else out there who would love to show them a better time.
@@FishSkeleton- so say you got a bf... the bf makes a new lady friend, they become close and you start to doubt him, you communicate that the other girl makes you uncomfy that you do not trust her with him, but he hangs out with her anyways and get even closer. Is it now your fault if he leans more into the girl that makes you uncomfy?
@ShxpxRok Your premise completely ignores how OP kept trying to spend time with their boyfriend while he continued to push her away, despite knowing she was speaking with another man a lot.
@@FishSkeleton- people now a days just don't get it...
When you are in a relationship with someone you don't get to just do whatever you want. If something makes your partner uncomfy and you keep doing that thing you are just being an a-hole.
Getting distant isn't right but giving your partner cause to question trust in you is just as bad if not worse.
If you say that he should have just trusted her, look at the outcome of the relationship.
Why is it always catgirls are always ERP and harass others for it, I've had this before many times from catgirl players, always sending me weird tell messages.
because a lot of the time the people playing fem miqo’te are horny guys that are shameless and downright weird lmao
Half of the time they be weird ass dudes IRL.
One, miqote fits in the anime/hentai fantasy crap they're into while not completely looking too normal like a human.
Two, the body heights in genders of all races made miqote more balanced and desirable. Of course now there's more vieras, au'ras in ERP too 😂
Three, these horny bishes pm you because you're a handsome looking cat boy or you're in limsa.....😂
Part of me thinks that Catherine wanted to break OP and her Boyfriend up so OP wouldn't have a reason to reject her advances.. Bur revenge also makes sense..
I have played WoW for years and once in a blue you'd hear a story like this but nothing compared to the stuff you hear about that goes on in this game, I have even been in some crazy dramas myself with my time playing ff14 and it's crazy. I will say this if it doesn't involve you it can be very amusing to witness.
Yea I’m actually surprised how many ff14 drama stories I sometimes accumulate in my dms 😂
Ff14 community are the most lonely and unhinged people I have ever met in an online community 🤣
It's like all the stalkers, catfishes and pedos decided that xiv was the perfect place to settle down.
10 Years of xiv and I finally unsubbed and started playing other mmos, it's not the same game it was 4-5 years ago, the drama is out of control and mods have literally infected every single part of the game, most people don't even finish the msq before they get dragged into erp and turn into complete degenerates because of how hard the unhinged community pushes people into modding and sexual activities.
P.s. how are you pathra \o/ have seen you since I left SeeD and moved back to materia dc
Tbh I already knew the Miqo'te, Au Ra and Viera were gonna have the most ethots
Grats on 30k! ❤
*Bun girl ear twitching intensifies*
You can NEVER trust a catgirl
Ouuu a video to listen to while I drink coffeee
What the hell did I walk into
World of Darkness the easiest raid even back when it was only ARR lol
I love the stories where the problem person has My name it feels so weird.
so many banable repiortable events
All these people finding relationships in ffxiv, I want to do that once lol
Fantasia into a cat boy dress in top gears and chill in limsa for a start.....😂
I like how she says "comftable"
It hasn't been this bad, but I totally understand getting attached to people that I've played with. Unfortunately, it's hard for me not to😅
I been thinking about this a lot and I came to the conclusion that erp is just what it is. However, it can be considered cheating to other people so if you want to engage in that activity with people who are taken ( or your taken your self) you need to find out what their lovers opinion is on it, and respect other people's wishes.
I love MESS
Eliza staying with Catherine was pretty Based. 😎 Bro needed that ERP fix.
I don't really like these drama stories. I'm sure part of it is true but most of them seem all made up...borderline wattpad stories. I hope Pathra is able to filter these cringe stories because they seem to be like daytime soap operas. Would be juicier if they provide receipts...
Its 100% fake. It makes no sense. There is no way that these people shared their personal phone numbers or were really "dating"
If only there's no one crazy like this but sadly I've dealt with a few crazy ones like op in games. Can't be too nice to people these days.
Those are just average female miqo players
of course it’s a fem miqo on the crystal DC lmaooo
Kinda feel sorry for Catherine, from the sound of it, she either developed an addiction or something happened to her growing up, like another friend of mine.
And became hyper sexual because of "SA".
Either way she really needs to seek help
Also Op shouldnt feel bad about having feelings for another man. Her boyfriend is the one to blame and chose to ruin his relationship with op over lies.
24:30 --- I dont know... if a boyfriend demanded I chance DC for him to prove my loyalty, I would be like "sure, you pay, buddy". To talk about "emotions" about a datacenter... especially since OP already said, she didnt have many friends there... whats the difference? She could change to an empty server and get a house there. Sure, we're still talking ShB, I think, so DC travel wasnt a thing, but even if she had friends there, she could create an alt or stay in contact via Discord... Nah, I dont see the drama in this.
All in all really wholesome :) I cant remember how I was early in my MMO career but now... yeah... I dont tell people personal stuff. They may know I have siblings or a pet, maybe the rough location of where I live... but its all very vague, and I'll never share my picture, let alone my name. There are and always were too many weirdos on the Internet. This is no general accusation but just go with the premisse that you should'nt share online what you wouldnt tell a random stranger on the street. Online friendships are great, but they are just that: online. Though it works sometimes and people find the love of their life, to me pure online relationships arent "real". Or rather, cant be real: you can never really and truly know a person, not even irl - but its so much easier to put up a front online. Be cautios out there.
Well…when the boyfriend thought to keep his distance from the girl that likes him, is bound to fade out. I feel like OP’s boyfriend is at fault for the lack of communication. Sooo…only now he wakes up to reality when he notices the OP is developing feelings for another guy? what did you expect bro? :/ Come on… I was literally rooting for you both.
Yeah I dont get it its stupid. If you arent on good terms its pretty much guaranteed the other person is going to talk to her people/cheat
Yeah, at that point I was like, just break up with Craig and go to Deryk, it's clear Craig isn't putting in the effort so why stay? Her indecisiveness is the only part which was her fault, imo
Congratulations on you correct pronunciation of 'Craig'
Yet another reason to fuel my dislike towards the cat people in game. That catgirl was a mess. 😂😂😂
Damn... Is Catherine Regina George in real life? lol
Stories like these make it so my skin crawls every time anyone even remotely tries to RP to me. No thank you. Pass. I’m just here for the MSQ.
It’s even worse when people RP as game characters and start to send sexy messages to people “in character”, like, nah bro. The character you’re RP’ing was wholesome and nice and cool and you’re not it.
The internet has some very sick individuals and FFXIV isn’t immune to that. 😮💨
(This was in relation to the initial setup, OP trying to get RP’d with btw lol rest of the story is just 🤯🤦🏻♂️)
I love Rp'ing and have become so attached to my character due to rp. However, I've never ERP'ed in FF. Those people are so open with it that it feels like IMVU. (Thats ignoring peoples IMVU-ass mods)
If you even remotely like anything like Dnd or storyboarding, don't let the weirdos ruin your fun. If you ever give RP a try there are many wholesome people you can let your creativity run with.
Sounds like a normal Miqo to me.
The Kitties are not Toxic!
All races have their toxic assholes but your more likely to run into assholes playing popular races.
This is so fcking hilarious
Crystal DC is just a hot mess.
Lets play a game called "never have i ever"
How is this even real are they bf gf in game or irl
Typical ff14 situation xdd
Dude this just sounds so fake. There is no way this happened. How do you even follow people on FF14?
The lodestone site.
Glad there’s a happy ending 😊
First!
ERP isn't cheating, but LOL at trying to force it on anyone.
@pwincesskrissy2557 Literally isn't but okay. Its about as much as cheating as watching porn is. If you're not sharing personal information it can never leave the game. And I don't think erp is enough to annul a marriage unless you can cite me a case where it did.
It is.
i see drama i click like! 🎉