Is The Solenoid Bad, Or The Starter? A Quick Test.

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  • @brandonsizemore3480
    @brandonsizemore3480 2 роки тому +14

    “Laziest, worst way” my kind of way

  • @peterasp955
    @peterasp955 4 роки тому +5

    Hi Brandon! Here’s my general comment to your channel: Extremely useful! I both own an older Evinrude and occationally get assigned one at work. You have helped both me and customers breathe new life into these legendary engines. Thanks a whole lot and greetings from Sweden!

  • @lawsongawthrop6871
    @lawsongawthrop6871 Рік тому +4

    You saved my life and hours of work, thank you

  • @bradydegrasse
    @bradydegrasse Рік тому

    Nicely done! My motor vibrated off of the transom and swam about 5 circles underwater (cables all held). The actual Engineer-friend of mine that gave the boat to me (VERY kind), had locked the hand fasteners, but did not through-bolt the motor. Long story short, miraculously, the motor started that day--it is the 1985 version of yours, looks JUST like it--and is running PRETTY darn well but the starter is starting to "screech" a bit. This video helped me locate my equipment and also to potentially tease it out if and when it--the starter--truly gives up the ghost! Thanks buddy!

  • @cfv704
    @cfv704 2 роки тому +2

    This is the kind of stuff I need to learn. Thank you for the video!

  • @SunnySurf
    @SunnySurf 4 місяці тому +1

    And to think I got my multimeter out to watch this!
    Good man for sharing the knowledge 🤙

  • @lukeclarke1068
    @lukeclarke1068 5 місяців тому

    I just used a bit of fencing wire. Held it with vice grips but it went red hot in about 3 seconds. But I’ll try that in the morning. Kinda need it to go, it was in salt water today.

  • @blackmouthcur6097
    @blackmouthcur6097 3 роки тому

    Great shortcut. Most people would maybe try an ohm test first, I like your method, no doubt in the diagnosis.

  • @scottd3532
    @scottd3532 3 роки тому +2

    Absolutely perfect

  • @michaelhano8701
    @michaelhano8701 4 години тому +1

    Thank you!!!

  • @nelsoncruck2458
    @nelsoncruck2458 Рік тому +1

    Hi! Amazing video! My pinion will rise and engage with the flywheel but it would not spin,what could be wrong? It was running perfectly last week but it happened when I tried to start it up in my backyard to winterize it. What could be wrong? Thanks!

  • @BlueGillage
    @BlueGillage 5 місяців тому

    Straight and the point. THANK YOU!!!

  • @unsaltedlife5998
    @unsaltedlife5998 4 роки тому +6

    It will help someone broke down on the water for sure.

  • @ignaciofontan8942
    @ignaciofontan8942 Рік тому

    Muchas gracias por compartirlo, un saludo desde el noroeste de España

  • @cczaragoza5168
    @cczaragoza5168 Рік тому +1

    Did you touch the positive cable with the negative for it too crank?

  • @notsalmonpack
    @notsalmonpack 4 роки тому +13

    Did this last weekend to figure out that my starter was toast. Ha. Who needs a multimeter when you've got a hot wire

    • @papa4988
      @papa4988 3 роки тому +1

      I took my starter into a part store to have it checked, they said it was bad. I took it home and cleaned it up and used graphite spray for lubricant. Reinstalled and now the starter is trying to turn it over. I did this that Mr. Reynolds points out by taking my right side hot wire on solenoid and touched the left and it sparked, so I had to order a new solenoid installed it and now it's still not turning over. I just ordered a new starter so I hope that helps. Just sucks having to order parts when I have a old motor. 1991 25 HP Johnson. I did additionally find a blown fuse that runs from a overheating sensor ( I assume) on the back of the rear of the engine with the water drain tube coming out. No luck with changing that either so now I'm just waiting on a new starter, but thank you for the great videos. Gives a novice tinkerer a chance at owning a functioning boat. I just didn't realize how much time and money an old boat would take to make functionable and safe for my family.

    • @craigconcrete5936
      @craigconcrete5936 Рік тому +1

      @@papa4988 you think it sucks ordering parts for an old motor?!?
      What really sucks is ordering parts for a new motor that shouldn't need anything because it's still new! WIth old motors it's to be expected.

  • @Thewrightstuff777
    @Thewrightstuff777 4 роки тому +4

    Highly informative!!!! Lol!!!

  • @TheIceman101
    @TheIceman101 Рік тому

    Thanks man, I’m going to try this tomorrow on my Yamaha vmax.

  • @ykb946
    @ykb946 4 роки тому

    Greetings!! Your Videos are helpful. Question: I bought a 1980 15hp Johnson Outboard; its in great shape. Can i install an electric start motor? if so...Where would I find one, and what other parts would i need? Thanks Scott

  • @antpoo
    @antpoo 3 роки тому +5

    Big what if you have a clicking sound, and you do the rest and the starter lacks the grunt to turn the fly wheel sufficiently also?

    • @bmxadict1816
      @bmxadict1816 3 роки тому

      Just replace the solenoid they are only like $30 I had the same issue and that fixed it

  • @br3xa836
    @br3xa836 3 роки тому +2

    I just did this with pliers and the starter didn’t move so that means I need to replace the starter? Just want to make sure before I drop some cash.

  • @johnfugate3432
    @johnfugate3432 2 роки тому +2

    Glad to see someone cut right to the chase

    • @BrandonsGarage
      @BrandonsGarage  2 роки тому +2

      With some of my videos being 40 minuets long, I don't believe I do; but then I watch other youtube videos, and its 30 minuets of them driving around and going grocery shopping before getting to the point.

    • @TheLandlordPicker
      @TheLandlordPicker 2 роки тому +1

      Yes, everyone is trying to feed the UA-cam algorithm and create longer videos but I end up forwarding to the main repair.

  • @johngaddis697
    @johngaddis697 10 місяців тому

    LMAO! I Love the "highly informative, educational video" line.

  • @lethosadventures
    @lethosadventures 2 роки тому

    hi just have a question so ill take off the positive wire and touch the negative wire which is attached to the solenoid? just wanted to double check thanks

  • @1cleandude
    @1cleandude 3 роки тому +3

    Where did the hot red lead come from and how was it powered??

    • @BrandonsGarage
      @BrandonsGarage  3 роки тому

      From a deep cycle battery, and from the battery.

  • @pontraellellison3841
    @pontraellellison3841 6 місяців тому

    Spot on replaced starter and it stacted right up

  • @JonnyAreo
    @JonnyAreo 2 роки тому

    Lol.. Your video is funny, I love it. I have a 40 Johnson motor from the 60's. I kept trying to start it at the dock and it kept wanting to turn over. But my dumbass, never hooked up the gas line to the engine. And now all I'm getting is a click sound. I probably ruined the starter or solenoid trying to start it over and over. I was my first time out since winter and I got ahead of my self in excitement. Didn't check everything beforehand lol... I'm not sure how to use the multimeter or settings to put it on.

  • @jerrydoyleenglandengland5961
    @jerrydoyleenglandengland5961 2 роки тому

    DANG...we will try that...I got about 3 gallons of gas out before my squeeze hand gave out...

  • @travmckeown8494
    @travmckeown8494 2 роки тому

    Just did this and saved me a huge headache.

  • @walkerkarnstadt
    @walkerkarnstadt Рік тому

    Great vid

  • @EmpoweredPercussion
    @EmpoweredPercussion 2 роки тому +1

    Great video. Any reason why my starter is starting to spin and not push the sprocket up to turn the motor over? I had to manually spin it up into position then start it and it would work but after 2 times of restarting it would spin but not engage. Any solutions? (70 HP Force motor)

    • @I2aMpAnT
      @I2aMpAnT 2 роки тому +1

      Wired backwards. Did this on my Kawasaki Brute Force and felt awfully stupid.

    • @garbageman1983
      @garbageman1983 6 місяців тому

      I have the same issue that you’re having,starter runs but sprocket won’t go up to fire up the engine,I have ordered a new starter and will see if that fixes the problem

  • @kishidabu
    @kishidabu 2 роки тому +2

    what if your starter spins but the bendix gear doesn't engage the flywheel? I swapped out the starter and same problem.

    • @kishidabu
      @kishidabu 2 роки тому

      Even occured when i jumped the starter as you did

    • @kishidabu
      @kishidabu 2 роки тому

      did a voltage drop test and it showed a 5 volt power drop in the ground, cleaned the connections and now it works!

  • @kingfish3066
    @kingfish3066 Місяць тому

    I like it .

  • @adambrigham4241
    @adambrigham4241 2 роки тому

    What about touching the top right wire to the positive ? Does that have anything to do with anything?

  • @samtate1260
    @samtate1260 4 роки тому

    I have a thick wire I just jump it over with out taking the nut off thanks for the videos great info keep them coming

  • @TheLandlordPicker
    @TheLandlordPicker 2 роки тому

    Thx. Nice quick tip

  • @robbob5318
    @robbob5318 2 місяці тому

    Hi will this work on a Force outboard?

  • @coryhart6616
    @coryhart6616 3 місяці тому

    where was the power from the red wire coming from?

  • @africanjew1596
    @africanjew1596 3 роки тому

    Using a multimeter I have power to the solenoid. Doesn’t make a sound when I try and start it. Either power doesn’t run to the starter from the solenoid or the starters not working. Or even the ignition switch is done! Don’t have a clue yet

    • @BrandonsGarage
      @BrandonsGarage  3 роки тому

      well you can use a screw driver to jump the power from the positive battery to the solenoid yellow wire; if it turns you know its a wiring issue. Could he the ignition switch, neutral switch, or youre not even in neutral.
      if it doent do anything, its the solenoid or the starter.

    • @africanjew1596
      @africanjew1596 3 роки тому

      I’ve been able to get the solenoid to click, and just did your test as shown in the video and I could’ve gotten it to start up. Is this a wiring issue or does this mean the solenoid is bad?

  • @lakehunter48p55
    @lakehunter48p55 4 роки тому +5

    short handles of pliers from one post to other. dont have to take anything off.

    • @br3xa836
      @br3xa836 3 роки тому

      Ha I just did this and the starter didn’t crank so I guess the starter is what I need to replace?

  • @ANDYYSHAWW118
    @ANDYYSHAWW118 3 роки тому

    Hi, can i use a Tilt and Trim Solenoid as a Starter Motor Solenoid

  • @jakeasher7113
    @jakeasher7113 4 місяці тому

    So if you do this and starter doesn’t move, it’s that starter?

  • @grw707
    @grw707 3 роки тому

    Would this work on a newer (2000) Johnson 4 stroke?

  • @Gale2Scott
    @Gale2Scott 4 роки тому +3

    Lmao that's genius

  • @Steve-wz5pz
    @Steve-wz5pz 25 днів тому

    Core.
    Some folks think if the solenoid clicks, it's good. Not so.

  • @44Celt
    @44Celt Рік тому

    Tried this and blew my relays- power tilt and starter relays just buzz instead of engaging

  • @kenfrazier616
    @kenfrazier616 2 роки тому

    where does the solenoid ground to with the rubber damper between the bracket and block?

    • @BrandonsGarage
      @BrandonsGarage  2 роки тому +1

      That is the black wire on the solenoid.
      The 2 little screws, that is the electromagnet connections.

    • @kenfrazier616
      @kenfrazier616 2 роки тому

      @@BrandonsGarage thanks found a wire diagram and connected it. if you work on motors to get them started would like to know since your not far away

  • @anton1949
    @anton1949 2 роки тому

    Could have been the neutral safety switch, or not having it in neutral.

  • @michaelmitchell2313
    @michaelmitchell2313 2 роки тому

    nice job ty to you

  • @nebojsadjurin6445
    @nebojsadjurin6445 4 роки тому

    Open the solenoid, probably very easy fix! And nice for a video...

  • @robpaul7900
    @robpaul7900 2 роки тому

    Wat if my engine is trying to turn over but no spark can't be my solenoid?

    • @BrandonsGarage
      @BrandonsGarage  2 роки тому +1

      correct

    • @robpaul7900
      @robpaul7900 2 роки тому

      @@BrandonsGarage what else could it be I replaced stator, battery rectifier, switch pack, spark plugs? I took off kill switch wire yellow n black what else could it be?

  • @davidbrawner7679
    @davidbrawner7679 4 місяці тому

    I replaced the bad solenoid and still nothing when I turned the key. The starter is good. What next😬

  • @ryanhuckins6669
    @ryanhuckins6669 Рік тому

    S a very short video but it was all I needed to fix my boat I had no idea why it wouldn't start turn the key hear a click that's it well after watching this turns out my solenoid is bad so thank you that I didnt have to watch a 30 minute video you git straight to the point thank you

  • @Craig4968
    @Craig4968 Рік тому

    😂😂❤

  • @josephm40
    @josephm40 4 роки тому

    When I tried that I got a lightning bolt sized arc. What did I do wrong?

    • @Gordon_L
      @Gordon_L 3 роки тому

      I know this question was a while ago but it sounds like you somehow dead shorted the battery , i.e. bridged + and - and got fireworks .

  • @SandmanGaming-in1fe
    @SandmanGaming-in1fe 2 місяці тому

    dude. thanks lol

  • @yadayadanada
    @yadayadanada 2 роки тому

    What if I touch the red hot wire from the battery to the starter wire and nothing happens?

    • @BrandonsGarage
      @BrandonsGarage  2 роки тому

      bad or no ground, or bad starter.

    • @yadayadanada
      @yadayadanada 2 роки тому

      @@BrandonsGarage I’m thinking it’s the starter, I get the click sound when I turn ignition. When I touch ignition wire to starter wire, I get the click sound, but the starter not engaging.

  • @Max-yj4sp
    @Max-yj4sp 4 роки тому +1

    still doesnt eliminate the possibility of a bad ignition switch or wiring to the solenoid.

    • @BrandonsGarage
      @BrandonsGarage  4 роки тому +3

      Except the solenoid was clicking, trying to activate.
      Thus, circuitry was fine.

    • @danielrobert7181
      @danielrobert7181 4 роки тому

      Adding to Brandon's commentnans as s my dad used to say, when it walks, swinms and quacks like a duck ... it is a duck !

  • @TrevorHaire
    @TrevorHaire Рік тому

    Where disbu touch that too

  • @jacobfoulds7618
    @jacobfoulds7618 4 роки тому

    Are used to build in Dino 65 diesel‘s for a living are used a screwdriver to bump start it to make the connection it was a really messed up Dino at the business I worked at

  • @alixandria7346
    @alixandria7346 Рік тому

    I tried that and i just hear a spinning sound what does that mean? Please help

  • @arnulfolira402
    @arnulfolira402 2 роки тому

    I did the test and nothing happened. Can any of you help me to see what it is. Is it the starter m?

    • @BrandonsGarage
      @BrandonsGarage  2 роки тому

      Probably; or cables/connections

    • @arnulfolira402
      @arnulfolira402 2 роки тому

      @@BrandonsGarage can it be cables or connections even tho it sparks

  • @jonathannay8544
    @jonathannay8544 2 роки тому

    Guess I know what I'm doing tomorrow 🤣

  • @1cleandude
    @1cleandude 3 роки тому +2

    When I turn my ignition key I get the same clicking noise from solenoid. However when I run a heavy jumper from post to post as you did I get nothing! Can you or anyone help; thanks!!

    • @br3xa836
      @br3xa836 3 роки тому

      I’m having the same issue and to me it sounds like a faulty wire connection or starter relay. I’m still learning what all this means so I could be wrong

    • @1cleandude
      @1cleandude 3 роки тому +1

      My starter was good but one of the internal connections was weak! Cleaned it up then discovered the solenoid was bad! Changed it out and $65 later all is good!

    • @br3xa836
      @br3xa836 3 роки тому

      @@1cleandude good deal I’m gonna go try this on my boat!!

  • @WoodGuy
    @WoodGuy 4 роки тому

    We don't need no stinking voltage meter.........lol.

  • @dannydunn6396
    @dannydunn6396 2 роки тому

    New an old battery starter will jump to flywheel but dont have enough ass to turn motor over . rope will start it . took starter off an touch + an - off battery it spins just wont turn motor is the a weak starter

  • @elhommy13
    @elhommy13 4 роки тому

    😂

  • @josephsarsero7668
    @josephsarsero7668 2 роки тому

    Hi can you help me. I have a pull start outboard motor and I wont to fit a electric starter I dont now the number to the part ( SERIAL NUMBER 0N045091) MERCURY MARINE ( 2005 ME30 EMLH ) 30HP THAN YOU

  • @cnn94001
    @cnn94001 Рік тому

    thank you!!