Amps Are TOO LOUD
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I was thinking - do I need an attenuator?
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"Amps Are TOO LOUD". Yes, and that's why we love them!
No, it’s drummers who are too loud.
Played a show this weekend with a silent stage but with live drums and when there aren’t 2 egotistically loud guitar amps blasting over the drums, the drummer doesn’t have to hit the drums as hard as they possibly can!
Agreed on this, as someone in a function band as the guitarist, ive been accused of being the loud one, so i went to modeller and iems, and guess what, its still loud as hell on stage with a real drumset behind us....
@@cisemokram i’ve never “stepped on the vocals or any soloists. I wanted to go IEMs. It’s too late now.
@@NateTheMehbut drums are a little bit like Bass, you have to hit it hard enough to produce the desired tone
Honestly when I was playing covers back in the day, we used a 100w JCM 900 and a 400w bass rig and a powerful drummer with a loud Tama Starclassic kit. We used a pair of active Mackie's for vocals and a bit of kick drum.
In a crowded pub it wasn't that loud after a few meters back with all the bodies soaking up the noise.
To the point that it would be quiet at the other end of the room.
These days people come with mountains of PA and teeny tiny backline.
Decibel Meters made people go insane
The tone was great, JNC. As was the playing. Beautiful opening.
I was thinking the same - sounds really nice.
Ever since I moved from the US suburbs to a Japanese apartment, I haven’t owned an amp. It’s been five years. I gig regularly with only my PA+modeler or backline amps. I practice more productively than I did with an amp. I haven’t missed owning an amp at all. I always thought I’d get one eventually but…just nah I’m good.
Boooooo
@@treastonschmuckley5111 If I told this to myself at 20 years old hauling my 5150II and 4x12 everywhere, I would’ve said booo too 😅
But now literally someone could give me an amp today and I’d sell it to buy other guitar gear 😂
This is why a Revv D20, for example, is perfect. It's a great sounding 6v6 tube amp with 4 watt and 20 watt modes, a very usable master volume AND a Two Notes direct out with built-in (user updateable) cab IRs. The tube breakup/distortion is great on it's own, but it's also a great pedal platform. I also have a Tone King Ironman II Mini attenuator that I use with a Tweed Deluxe amp, It's not needed for the D20. If I could only have one amp, it would definitely be the D20. But there are other tube amps that have direct out technology built in.
Agreed! I also have the Revv D20! Great versatile amp for home practice and club giggling!
Vox AC4HW1 (4W), Marshall DSL40 (40W), Benson Vinnie 5W, Blackstar St James 50W, Tone King Royalist 40W - Marshall Silver Jubilee 2525C (20W), etc etc I am able to play all these amps at home, on "the sweet spot" without disturbing my wife who works from home nor my uni- student son. And most of them are gigable also. Tonemasters aside, Fender amps are way too loud. The Two Notes Torpedo attenuator is great, but the Fryette Power Station (attenuator) along with the Power Load IR devices are awesome. No tone discoloration at all.
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A good attenuator is always a good investment if you have tube amps. It makes them more versatile and manageable. I have a Fryette which is great as an all in one solution. The palmer pdi -06 is a decent one if you're tight on a budget and only need volume reduction.
This has always been my issue with amps - I'm not a loud player and I kind of have sensitive ears, especially in the guitar range, so it's always felt like too much, and seemed like overkill, especially now that we're in the age of great simulations and mostly-IEM gigs. Interesting video. :)
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My Rivera Clubster Royale Recording has solved so many problems for me that I did not realize I would have. I got it right before having children. It is a 25 w amp and is a very big/full sounding amp, even at very low volumes. That alone is pretty useful but this amp has silent recording capabilities and a headphone out, etc. Playing through a ice set of monitors at a decent volume is surprisingly satisfying, as I can really give it to the guitar and not worry about waking everyone in the house up. I used to have 100w amp heads and 4x12 cabs, but stopped performing with that rig a decade ago. No one uses amps that loud anymore. It's odd but makes a lot of sense. Love your content. Always informative and musical.
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One of the best tones I’ve ever had is my Victoria bassman on 7. But I can’t get it to that point on almost any of my gigs these days. which is crazy cause I play big gigs sometimes (outdoor stages, arenas, etc). So that’s why I switched to a modeller - I’d rather play through my FM9 than the bassman on 2. So yep, many amps can be too loud. I have a deluxe too and that can be cool in smaller spaces
New Zealand's so funny like this, like 90% of the venues are 15-30 watt maybe 40 watt requirements with 1x12 or 2x12 cabinets, but the size deferential between metal venues in Wellington & Auckland is permanent hearing loss lol
@@fives. yeah man. But what’s crazy is I can’t even get the amp to the sweet spot on the big stages. The Victoria bassman is 45 watts. Very few venues here are built for music, as you know I’m sure
I also used to have a Victoria baseman. What a beautiful amp! But yes, the sweet spot was way too loud. And also, it was rather big and heavy to haul around. So regrettably, I eventually sold it.
I’ve got use running a 2x12 and the master volumes with the Lonestar. Most of the time I’m running in 4 ohms and using 5881s. I’ve considered trying 6v6s in the Lonestar.
Not when using it with a good attenuator xD
A solid investment. Even a cheap one is useful.
The old Two notes torpedo can be had for about $150 used, and gives you both silent recording / silent cab sim out capabilities as well as the -0 and -20 db attenuated outputs it’s been a total game changer.
Not TOO LOUD. But, quite loud for sure.
I stopped using amps in December of 2020 when I got my HX Stomp. I’d only owned one good amp, which was my Peavy Classic 20, but it burned through tubes like crazy. My bother never used his Vox AC15, so I’d borrow it all of the time, but he eventually sold it and I was without an amp. I found a used HX Stomp at the recommendation of a friend, and was able to trade about $450 worth of pedals I didn’t need for it. Best decision ever. It’s so much more portable and versatile, and with the updates they’ve done, and using IRs, it sounds better than any amp I’ve played, and better than most I’ve heard. The portability alone is worth it, I’d doubles as a MIDI controller for the other 2 pedals I use now, it doubles as an audio interface, it’s got a headphone jack, it’s just perfect.
My board is:
HX Stomp (w/pedalnetics switch)
Jackson Audio Broken Arrow
Walrus Audio R1
Mooer Free Step
Walrus Audio Canvas
Strymon Ojai R30
I’m going to add a compressor soon, but that’s about it. I’ve considered swapping the R1 for a Specular Tempus, so that I’m not using the delays in the stomp, but they sound so good.
Your Peavy was probably biased too hot
@@treastonschmuckley5111 most likely.
I have the Dr Watsons Lion Tamer for my fender HRD. I can crank it and keep it at bedroom level. The lion tamer was only 30 bucks.
That said, these days I almost exclusively use the line 6 pod express and a speaker.
My sweet spot lately is a blackface Princeton reverb with a sensitive 12 in speaker (celestion alnico gold). With pedals it’s pretty versatile and not obnoxious loud
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In the bedroom, playing without accompanying instruments, there’s as much need to tune your ears as there is to turn up the volume to “get tone”. Listening really hard for tiny subtleties of touch at low volume can do wonders for “getting great tone”. Onstage with a band… completely different scenario, but the principle of listening carefully to how you fit with the rest of the instruments is more important than the oft-expressed need to “hear myself over everything”. I reckon we tend to pick the guitar up and belt the stuffing out of it to try and force the sound we want to the foreground. We need to focus on hearing what everyone else hears, not on our expectations of a sound.
I've always had 100 watts for some reason that I don't know. Never used an amp over 2.5 o the volume. But I've always got a great sound.
Plexi's sound thin at low volumes though
@@florisvanlingen That's quite an easy fix apparently. I think you just take out the bright cap.
Most of us primarily play at home and live with people. And most amps are too loud to crank and get "natural overdrive" from under those circumstances. So, yeah, they're too loud for 95% of us.
Do you own a Universal Audio OX Box (attenuator + cab emulation)? I know Nashville session pro Justin Ostrander has mentioned using one for remote sessions on his channel. I’d love to see you shoot it out versus the Helix for recorded tones.
How about this idea "guitar + amp = acoustic instrument" ?
If your amp is too loud - get a smaller amp :)
The smaller ones are also super loud!!
I run my Pro set on volume 2 with a Zendrive... in my bedroom. Sounds perfect.
Same. I've maxed my twin live at 3 or 4....but a good overdrive and distortion. Sounds choice!
IMO, to reach the sweet spot would be in general, drive the amps really loud. They work with significant signal to push transformes, tubes, speaker and other stuff to do their thing.
In digital domain it’s different because you can turn down the volume after the entire chain, which means post mic as well.
But… good amps can sound great at any volume, but maybe not their best
JHS Little black box in the effects loop .Attain your sweet spot at any level
My two Mesa Dual Rec half stacks never get turned on at home, but I have a Mark VII (90w) combo and a Badlander combo (25w) that I figured could be used at home without too much trouble. Even the 25w Badlander is unusable at home without an attenuator, which was surprising.
I think all the drama about amps being too loud is just that: drama. It smells of rationalization, an excuse to buy more gear. You sound great. Play what makes you feel good.
Have you ever had the eyelet board in your Fender amp cleaned? When they get old and dirty they can go conducting and make noises (usually chips frying).
I think an attenuator is useful when you really want the amp’s natural overdrive with the power valves cooking but can’t turn it up to that level. For clean or slight broken up sounds, I think turning it down is enough.
I have my 65 Princeton reissue set up downstairs and at night I can play at around 2 on the volume without attenuation and not bother anyone. It sounds pretty decent for a tube amp on low volume. Or with my 30 watt Tone King attenuator I might turn up the amp to around 3-4 and attenuate back down to the same volume. To my ear the sound improves only slightly when playing completely clean with no pedals. For me, the improvement is more noticeable with pedals where I think the overall tone and feel is better and the pedals react more as they normally would.
Despite the phantom tube noises, that amp sounds SO much better than your modelers, and the Zen Drive does too. It seems that the REAL tone likely inspired some of your most tasty playing to date. You were nicely outlining the eventful harmonic structures, and really milking the sweet notes in the changes, all with beautiful tone. It was a real pleasure to listen to, thanks and kudos to you . . . . . . . .
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yes !
I think what you were doing with the amp at
I think this really depends on the sound you want to get out of your amp. For example I gigged a Fender DRRI for a long time and I used my drive pedal to also boost the input going into the amp so it was louder than unity gain because for me the tone I want to hear is the combination of the drive pedal and some preamp distortion. Because of this that amp would keep up with a loud drummer at volume 3.
Small amps with power scaling! Love my Cornell for that! Or my old laney vc15-110 which has clean and drive channels where you can get drive tones at low volume. Nextone at 0.5 W can be more than loud enough. Amps are way easier to set up than a DAW, monitors etc if you don’t have a dedicated space.
Lmao at 8:45!!! You Einstein solved the problem!
The Tone King Imperial MkII works for me in regard to volume.
I use a 68 RI Princeton and even at 3 it’s very loud. I love gigging it, but at home I use modellers.
Probably add a blues driver for a bit of something and a compressor and it’s fine
Fryette Power Station is the answer ;)
(Or even something cheaper)
I had the Tone King Iron Man attentutor...thought it was excellent, until I tried the freyette. Freyette was next level in my experience. For a number of reasons, I sold my boutique tube amps and got a FM9T II.
@@musiccreation1198 are you using your Fractal into Fryette into the cab?
I have a 100w Marshall at home but I never use it as it's just too loud at the sweet spot, I have had it since 1999. I only ever play at home so I got my self a Spark 40W from positive grid and I mostly play through that now with headphones, keeps the wife happy also lol.
Get yourself an attenuator from as cheap as 80 dollars, upgrade to a Rivera Rock Crusher, ToneKing Ironman or Fryette Powerstation later on if you find it a worthy investment.
I have found an interesting view on my fender style amps, the tone stack is passive and when all knobs are at 0, sound will still pass through (this may not be the same on all designs) but I found with my eq set as ‘normal’ say treb 2 o’clock, bass 11 o’clock etc etc the master has to be right down, the problem then being the sound was a bit thin. So starting with a reasonable master gain level and eq on 0 I then balance the tone stack from there. End result being a fuller sound with the power amp working as it prefers and the tone controls set for example bass 7 o’clock treble at 9-10 o’clock, same sort of tone but bigger, more reactive and because the levels are minimal for the eq section the overall level is about the same as when the master is right down but the tone is up. Hopefully that makes sense but try it out, works for me! This idea of everything at noon for a starting point just makes too much bass and things start shaking
Have you ever used a Fryette PS? That single piece of gear has me playing ALL my amps again.
I've tried multiple attenuators. Fryette's is the best by a country mile. But it's not a true attenuator. Presumably the method works like this - you crank up your amp to the sweet spot and then engage the Fryette. It attenuates any connected amp to zero and then reamps it through a pair of KT88's (in the PS100). You then have smooth control dials to bring it back up to volume and add bass, depth, treble, and presence to restore your tone. You can A/B between the unattenuated tone and your atttenuated one to get them to match as close as possible. On any other attenuator out there, you will get a step down dial that reduces the volume in decibel increments. Immediately you will notice a loss of presence and air in your tone that will just continue to get worse as you step it down.
I use my Fryette every single day and I can't say enough good stuff about them. But you have a point, you can just try and play quiet. Not all amps will do that tho. Mine dont. As soon as they are on, they are loud.
Earthquaker Special Cranker pedal, try it in your fx loop.
Intro was sweet! Could have fit that into a Steely Dan song
I bought a Supro Amulet that works perfectly at home or gigs. It's not any heavier than a head and it has 1w, 5w, or 15watt settings.
I love mine! I just keep it at 1 watt for at home playing and it's great
My cornford Carrera is perfect for low volume home paying - both clean and driven. In fact I think I prefer it's bedroom volume tones more than its too loud for home tones - though that could be due to familiarity of its sounds. Obviously you don't get the physical sensation of moving air, or the thump of bass of a big amp playing loud, but the quality of those clean/edge of breakup/crunch sounds is better than any digital sound through a monitor if you really want to treat yourself in your low volume playing
I feel like the biggest issue isn't actually volume, any amp can be forced to be quiet. It's more finding that needle point balance of volume, tone, touch, and dynamic. Trying to get that consistent on any stage is hard, let alone also at home. I mean that's the entire point of modelling innit? But amps are just more fun for some (myself included). This whole thing is why Princetons & Deluxes are ubiquitous, those are sweet spot amps for 90% of situations. The other 10% are probably plugins.
Amps are great. It's just that for me it has become a rarity to have a gig where it makes sense to use one. Bringing a big amp just to have it somewhere in the backstage area with a mic on it going to PA or In-Ears makes no sense... I don't hear it and the audience doesn't hear it. And in the country I live basically every church or ball room etc. is set up with PAs. For practice at home it doesn't make sense either because usually you have family or neighbors so you want something quite and a great sounding headphone output. Which leaves maybe small gigs at cafes? Living room / Garage concerts? Maybe those are still not big enough to turn the amp up? So yeah, I have an all-in-one modeler, two cables and a guitar. If needed I bring my small, light-weight speaker (full range) that also has a microphone input and some reverb for the mic. That is enough for small gigs. And then we, as a band, we have a small PA we use for rehearsals or in the rare occasion where there is no PA or if we are not happy with the PA they have. (Anywhere else, in the living room, in the garden and on vacations I use a spark GO). So regular oldschool amps just don't fit in this world. I still have a nice little tube combo and I love playing it from time to time, but it only feels the way it feels when it's right there with me in the room. And out there in the world there is almost never a situation where I can set it up that way.
Then of course there are these "digital amps" or capturing devices like the Kemper, but that is all just transitional gear for the people that are used to amps. It only makes things more complicated. You play electric guitar. Compared to acoustic guitars the big upside of electrics is that you can shape the tone between the instrument and the speaker. And you do that with various electrical/digital circuits and buttons and pedals which need to be operated with your feet because your hands are already occupied. So it's very obvious to me that a all-in-one effects/modeler device on the floor is the most effective solution going forward. The "old" gear from the 70ies/80ies/90ies is not magically better (or worse) because it's old, there was just no other way of doing it back then, so if you wanted a driven tone with reverb and delay options you needed a big loud Marshall, effects loops, 20 cables, power delivery... Nobody "wanted to do that" but in order to get that sound, that's what you had to do. But it does make things more complicated and forces you to do more work instead of focusing on the music. If you enjoy that kinda thing have fun, it's great. But it's not efficient and it doesn't enhance your sound in a meaningful way. It's a hard pill to swallow but your audience cannot hear the difference between your 1000$ original Klon and a 200$ modeler/multi-effects drive :D
I recently bought a Marshal origin 5 which has a quiet mode of 0.5 Watts. I stupidly assumed this would overdrive sweetly at a reasonable home volume. I was so wrong. Even half a watt pushed to the point of breaking up is deafening and my neighbours complained. Never quite managed to get that sound at home.
What exactly are you using on this video ? Processor ect?
Amps are way to loud in my living situation, and I went to using a Modeler and Headphones. Based on the many videos I've seen on YT, the Suhr Load Box has consistently sounded the best for the price. The Universal Audio OX Reactive Amp Attenuator and Load Boxes sound great, but are very pricey.
The difference for me is just the speaker push. Even at low volumes I can feel the speaker pushing in a 1x12 vs studio monitors sounding more even and not giving me that response
ear buds ae the problem. people aren't used to air moving. it's scary. it's much different than moving the tiny amount of air in your ear canal. yes. people are wimps.
Speaker design has hardly changed for standard amps. So the problem is that unless you go small speakers like in 5in monitors you cannot play at talking level. Of course the NUX Mighty air with 2 x 2in and a 3in woofer is at radio volume level with sustain etc and doesnt disturb any one plus you can DI it to front of house, but you wont hear it for the drums and singer. Attenuators are too expensive period. Guitars and bass need to cut through the drum level to above the volume unless e drums. Home wise you need something like the NUX, I am in a condo and cannot use an amp with 12in or 10in speakers. Even the studio monitors are too loud for all day only certain periods. So Nux or headphones at the condo. So it means a front house for everything is the only way to keep the volume at talking level and in ear monitoring unfortunately.😄
I am actually selling my tube amp after watching your videos. I don't gig anymore and I can't get to the sweet spot without bothering my family or neighbors. I feel that for the amount of volume I use it is just better to go for plugins or a desktop amp like the Yamaha THR-II.
Depends on the amp.....but... LOUD is so Awesome! (...and that all depends on your living situation and having Rockin' neighbors! LOL!) That said...I don't usually CRANK my amps very often, even though I do enjoy that POWER and feel of a CRANKED Amp at times.....it just isn't practical. Both of my Rivera amps are a Master Volume design. I can get whatever sound that I need at any volume.
The problem is the gigs, not the amp. Of course a Marshall stack or a Dumble 100W is too much for a wedding gig. I mean pretty much any real amp is. But a 20w amp is fine for most gifs where people want to actually pay attention to the music. My ¢2.
I know this because I play at church. And everything is too loud usually. So I just play acoustic and sing. They don't know what theyre missing! Its like asking an F1 driver to show you his minivan!
what are u playing over that e7#9?
Does tone and headroom matter anymore? Smaller amps...less of both in my experience.
Little black Amp on my Friedman SnR and ist fine. But Amp Is to heavy😅
Attenuators don’t make any sense to me unless you are really in love with a specific amp. In most cases, you’re better off getting a similar amp with less power. Also, it seems like people don’t take the directionality of amps into account enough. Doing something to defuse (sp?) the sound will not only help keep the amp from seeming too loud but will also even out your sound across the space.
Yeah, the problem with small amps, 5 watts or so, is that they sound small to my ears, the transformers are so small that it's impossible to get a bigger sound. Higher wattage DO sound bigger, also to my ears, even at low volumes,... maybe I should say especially at low volumes.
50 or a 100 watt amps sound better at low volumes than lower wattage amps imo. In reference to a tube amps sweet spot, yes amps will be too loud. To my ears, the sweet spot of tube amps is just past the edge of breakup, that is very loud even with 20 watt amps that I use.
I only have 3 amps now, two 20 watt and a 5 watt, and even the 20 watt amps sound bigger than the 5 watter. It's in the size of the transformers. I do use an attenuator sometimes with my 20 watt amps, to get into that sweetspot, of course there's somewhat of a tradeoff in that the tone is affected a bit using an attenuator.
Tube amps are quite as dynamic using an attenuator, of course it depends on the attenuator. Of course, if one is willing to spend as much on an attenuator as a good tube amp, your tone will not suffer as much. I have an inexpensive Weber Minimass 50 attenuator, but I'm a simple at home player these days, I'm 68 years old and my gigging days are long over, lol.
I used to have Fender amps but no longer, I'm a Rock and Blues player and I find that my 20 watt Marshalls are a better fit for the music I play.
Love your channel and you're playing, you are a wonderfully melodic player, keep up the good work!
Hey John, Tom Bukovac recently did some tweed deluxe reviews and said he records around 2. I watched a premiere guitar gear review with Dave Cobb and John Bollinger where he talks about recording on 2 also. I started experimenting with that and my fender Concert sounds great 🤷♂️. I thought your tone sounded great at the beginning of this video as well so, I guess 2 with pedals works well…. PS. The noise From your ProReverb only adds character 👍👌🙌🤘…
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Hi John, note choice and harmony aside I've been really taken by how unhurried and smooth your playing is from a rhythmic standpoint. As a player who has a habit of rushing the bar (especially during improv) I'd love to get your thoughts on that side of things. Was it something you had to work on?
Dropping this here off-chance it makes for a good topic :)
Hope ya well
I always used 50watt tube amps and down to 18 watts
Jimmy Page, Eric Clapton, Angus Young, Pete Townshend & Slash have entered the chat...
Did you suggest we can just turn it down? Will, I, never! BTW JC... if you laugh too much we are going to start expecting it! Next thing you do will be to use a comically large knife to unbox things. Dignity, JC... let us not lose dignity.
Tube amps are too loud. They sound great but are not worth the hearing loss that they can cause. As tubes amps sound better louder it’s just too tempting to keep pushing up the volume. Before you know it your ears are ringing and the damage has been done.
Obviously, Amps aren’t too loud for their intended purpose. Horses for courses.
Tell Joe Bonamassa that amps are to loud. 😂
Volume is it's own thing, For players like Townshend, Hendrix,Corgan et al, the volume was part of the sound because the guitar and amp all interact, and to invalidate that style of playing because the sound engineer can't control everything is ridiculous.
Amps are loud ONLY when you need distortion
Tastey intro!
That is a Shame that you have had that Pro Reverb serviced twice and it is still really noisy. I know at least 2 expert Fender Repair guys in my Area in the USA.
The 'modern' scenario of Total Control for live gig FOH is a sad indictment in my opinion.
Elf and Safeteeth gone mad.
Takes the Life out of the music something rotten it does.
When I made my crust from FOH, I might have had a chat with the guitarists about moderating their Master outs so that the singer could hear the monitors, or so that they'd balance each other, but that was about the limit of my interference ...
1 watt through a 1x12 is too damn loud when you can punch through your walls.
Pardon?
Youll have to caption louder i cant hear you
Modern speakers are too efficient imho.
11 is too loud. A bit of restraint and set them to 10 and they’re perfect.
Well if you bring a 50w amp to a cocktail gig I'd agree but what fool does that? Have we turned into a nation of wimps? Tube amps sound so much better loud and I'm never switching to anything else.
For sure all the amp sales guy's will tell you how good there amp sounds when played loud , but in real life this is useless , unless you play in big arena's an 20 w amp will do the job fine and offcourse it's always wise to use the amp as a clean pedal platform and do the drive part with pedals , therefor for me the fender tonemaster deluxe reverb is the perfect amp , loud enough for any gig and also good for home .
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turn up your pro reverb and play... your not too loud. the sound guy is probably a narcissist who just wants to tell you what to do and control you. he's frustrated that hes not good enough to be on stage. unless your in the wrong venue and its a coffee shop or something? push back against this because its usually some BS.
Remember Led Zepplin Deep Purple the WHO etc… louder than dammit right? For us boomers this the sound we’re after!
Question… if u go to church do u talk while pastor is preaching?do u talk while praise band is playing? Why would you pay $ 100 or more to see live music and want to talk during the show or a movie? People are stupid! Been to live shows where the guitar amps and vocals are buried in the mix by sub woofers, kick drum and toms sound the same a blurry mess no clarity and never heard any complaints but the guitar amp is too loud? Trains sirens trucks jets etc all too loud but guitar amp is what we attack? If u r at home I get it babies sleeping neighbors etc but on stage come on people wtf? People gonna complain regardless keep it up the government will step in and take control of music volume too! Spent decades collecting tube amps take em to church just to be told don’t bring that here no more… modelers are $400 500 at least then gotta buy in ears as well so u can hear yourself and the track. Take care and try to stay sane!!!
Are WIFES too loud?
Yes.
Everything is too loud, except me
Not if you attenuate them !!