the funny thing about this vid is that i LIVE in ontario oregon and i know that dealer and that exact baler. I ALOMST bought it while you were in flight to come look at it. Dealer told me someone was flying in to see it and if he didnt get it i could. Sooo.. You lucky bastard.....
Cool beans... I couldn't help but do a little counting... a bale about every 30 seconds, and about 30 strokes per bale. That machine flat moves the hay... Great view of the pickup as well... that pickup really spins like h3ll... It's throwing the hay clean up against the shield behind the roller windguard and the upper auger... Neat story as well. Keep 'em coming! Later! OL J R :)
I have had the same experience a neighbor laughed at my mower one day thought it was a pile of crap just made me more determined to succeed , I can tell you I showed him :-)
boy that hay feeds real smooth into that baler. the neighbor man is demoing a new massey-heston round baler today and the clover kept wraping on them little augers plugging the stupid thing up. good to see somebody else getting something done in the hay field today.
Interesting story of how you got started in the mulch business -does it all go for mushroom production? Watching the bales coming out of the baler, have you considered some type of bale collector [attached to the rear of the baler] to speed up clearing the fields when you are struggling with the adverse weather and time constraints?
I cannot believe he went all the way to Ontario Oregon to buy a Baylor that is no less than 25 miles from where I was born and raised crazy small world
Wes why do you use New Holland bailers and not John Deere ? Also since you like the NH equipment. Why go NH with your tractors as well ?? These are just some questions I wanted to ask , I really enjoy your videos !! Thanks
Not new to the channel and just came across this older video When you reached the end of the windrow I noticed the stuffin’,packin’ , sneezing and farting ended the sound stopped! Does that happen on the Krone as well? I’m assuming you use an SCV to stop it Thanx near the left coast near the Krapitol of California
well one time i lost a bale in the middle of the road at night and did not realize i lost it till the next day!!! and as i was picking it up in the after noon the cops showed up and said they where glad i came back for it cuz they tried to move it and couldn't..
no, it keeps running he just lifts the pickup so it doesent get damaged. you can see how he lifts it during some of the gopro footage. but the bailer doesent shut down till the end of the day!
Great story Wes. Hard to believe that you could save all the money by going all the way to Oregon and shipping the machinery back to NJ. However that was a smart move there and I assume it has paid off for you. When you refer to "mulching" I guess you mean hay. Where in the world do you sell all that hay? Never knew it was such a big business but then I'm a city boy and havn't really thought about that. Pete
All round bales here unless it's straw, or small sqaure bale hay for smaller farms. In Ireland that size baler would be useless for anything other then straw as them places are much more open out, more space etc..
sorry for asking, but i presume they are 4 x 8 bales.. what price are yous for baling and then what is sell on price ? Would love to know the price difference from Ireland and U.S
nice story! Is there a reason why so much of the property in NJ is grass land? I my region most of the land which is capable of getting worked with the tractor is in use for all kind of crops. there is just a little portion of grass land. BR Tom
So Wes who buys all your hay or who do you sell it to is it spoken for before you bale it I love what you do and would like to try it don't laugh we have a farm In nh and I was interested in how the business works great video
You can buy any peace of equipment and feel pretty confident if something happens to it you could fix it, that's handy when your buying a used baler and rake some people would have to spend the$60000!
he has tried round bailing and hates it. he can get 5 times the hay out with the square and it is easier to stack AND it takes up less space to store than round bales
Wes, I know you sit the fence sometimes about the quality of your mulch hay, but my question for you is this....have you ever thought about using a round bailer that wraps the bails? I have seen in earlier videos where you are covering the hay to protect it and just wondered what you reasoning was. Great video by the way!
That's crazy, I'm from Ontario Oregon, been watching your videos for a couple years now.. Ontario is labeled as the onion capitol of the world, over 20,000 semi loads shipped out annually....just a bit of useless info :)
Mulch hay is hay that's sold to mushroom barns-- they tear it up and compost it-- basically let it rot down into humus, then move it into the mushroom barns to grow mushrooms on it to sell in the grocery stores as food and to food service companies selling bulk mushrooms to restaurants, canneries, etc. He did a video showing the mushroom farm unloading the hay and cutting up/tearing up the bales, turning composted hay, and in another video, went through the mushroom barns with one of their employees from start of the process to finish. It was very interesting. Since the hay isn't for animal feed, it isn't anywhere near as important how the quality is. He can bale at moisture levels that would send most livestock hay farmers into cardiac arrest, bale less desirable grasses like warm season grasses, reed canarygrass, grass with lots of weeds in it, and it doesn't mess it up like it would in livestock hay where you really want the best quality you can make. He can store the square bales out in the weather and the damage remains acceptable, so long as they don't get heavy prolonged flooding rains that completely soak the bales. You'll notice in some of his videos that he's loading some bales that have sprouted grass growing out the sides of them or have rotted down or compressed under the weight of other bales to about half their thickness and look REALLY crappy-- but since the hay is ALL being composted into humus anyway, it doesn't matter like it would with livestock hay-- even beef cows that will eat nearly anything wouldn't eat hay like that, but it doesn't matter when it's being composted for mushroom production. The big square bales work best when you're doing a lot of trucking-- which he is. Load up the semi and haul @ss to the mushroom farms he sells to which is I think an hour or two drive away or so? (don't recall if he ever actually said). Big squares are packed tight and hold their shape better and are HEAVY compared to a round bale. Round bales take up a lot of space, and have a lot of air gaps between them when stacked, and don't stack anywhere near as tight as large squares. Small squares are fine for high quality hay for select buyers (like horse people and stuff) but are a pain in the @ss for large-scale livestock production-- though in some places they ARE the preferred method and folks have a lot of automated means of handling them. Wouldn't be practical for the kind of tonnage and acreage he's doing for the mushroom business. If you were baling livestock hay in large square bales, of course you'd want to keep the moisture down to less than about 14% and bale the best quality forage you could, and would store the bales preferably indoors in a barn or at least under tarps. Someone mentioned wrapping bales but that's expensive for all that plastic, time consuming, and besides wrapping is to make SILAGE bales (haylage) by baling up about 50% moisture hay and then wrapping it quickly to seal out oxygen. The hay then ferments and produces lactic acid which then preserves it as haylage. Oxygen entering the bales will cause them to rot. Since he's taking the hay to a user who essentially rots it in a compost pile anyway, it doesn't really matter if it's got some water damage/rotten spots in it anyway, heated up from excess moisture ("steamed out" as he calls it) and so forth. Of course you wouldn't want ANY of those things to happen to hay you're baling for livestock feed. Basically, mulch hay is turned on it's head compared to baling livestock hay... most all the rules that apply to livestock hay go out the window with mulch hay... We round bale in our part of the country-- don't know of a single big square baler in our entire area, or even region. BUT, round balers are 1) cheaper to buy-- you could buy a FLEET of round balers for what one new big square baler would cost, 2) don't require a very big, high horsepower tractor to operate-- we run 72 horsepower Ford/New Holland 5610S tractors ourselves, and 3) are fine for farmers producing mostly their own hay to feed their own beef cattle, which is the primary use in our area, where there's not a lot of long-distance heavy-hauling of the bales involved. Folks that want to buy hay can either get small square bales (if they can find someone doing all the extra labor to make them, and pay the premium for them) or get round bales. The only time we see big squares is when folks are bringing them in from other areas to sell for super-high prices during drought. Those are the main advantages of round balers-- a large, fairly heavy package of hay made by a fairly cheap baler using a fairly small tractor, capable of being handled by smaller tractors and fed, where a lot of hauling and moving isn't involved. If you were trucking hay a long way or moving shit-tons of the stuff, then a big square baler has definite advantages. Later! OL J R :)
luke strawwalker Thank you for the educational post, it puzzled me about this mulch hay bit i could not understand why someone would go to the trouble of saving hay and them using it for such . here we use straw mostly wheaten to grow mushrooms baled with the same said big balers , as regards haylage and silage we use round bales 4x4 for same wrapped in plastic as regards hay it is treated like gold dust here as its very hard to get enough (hay days) so you can imagine my amazement at the use of hay as a mulch , thanks again
although i respect our opinion, i think it is false. i wouldrather use a big sqare baler no matter what. store more hay in less space, they don't roll away(unless you are bailing on a sheer cliff) and easier to handle. again, i respect your opinion
I am curious, I wouldnt be surprised if it has happened. Yet have you ever left a field with the baler, to go to another field and find out from maybe the police that you dropped a bale in the middle of the road?
the funny thing about this vid is that i LIVE in ontario oregon and i know that dealer and that exact baler. I ALOMST bought it while you were in flight to come look at it. Dealer told me someone was flying in to see it and if he didnt get it i could. Sooo..
You lucky bastard.....
seriously???? wow thats funny..
I am not a farmer, but I enjoy watching your videos and usually learn something from them. Keep them coming!
Cool video, interesting view looking into the machinery : )
Loving these stories!
Thanks for posting ;)
thanks for explaining your mulch hay story and by the way its been great fun watching you progress with your business over the last few years.
After three years and still a brilliant video.
Hey I live in Payette Idaho! It's like 5 miles from Ontario Oregon that's so cool! We run a farm here that's crazy you came all the way here
Thanks for posting such good videos Wes we will keep watching u forever
Cool beans... I couldn't help but do a little counting... a bale about every 30 seconds, and about 30 strokes per bale. That machine flat moves the hay... Great view of the pickup as well... that pickup really spins like h3ll... It's throwing the hay clean up against the shield behind the roller windguard and the upper auger...
Neat story as well. Keep 'em coming!
Later! OL J R :)
Great story Wes, positive thinking and guts have reared your happy family
Loving the new in the action camera shot too!!
That's the coolest story I heard all day.
Listening to the heartbeat of the baler.
I have had the same experience a neighbor laughed at my mower one day thought it was a pile of crap just made me more determined to succeed , I can tell you I showed him :-)
boy that hay feeds real smooth into that baler. the neighbor man is demoing a new massey-heston round baler today and the clover kept wraping on them little augers plugging the stupid thing up. good to see somebody else getting something done in the hay field today.
that bailer sure eats the hay,
Interesting story of how you got started in the mulch business -does it all go for mushroom production?
Watching the bales coming out of the baler, have you considered some type of bale collector [attached to the rear of the baler] to speed up clearing the fields when you are struggling with the adverse weather and time constraints?
Love it keep them Comein
I cannot believe he went all the way to Ontario Oregon to buy a Baylor that is no less than 25 miles from where I was born and raised crazy small world
Wes why do you use New Holland bailers and not John Deere ? Also since you like the NH equipment. Why go NH with your tractors as well ?? These are just some questions I wanted to ask , I really enjoy your videos !! Thanks
great video productions love that camera
Not new to the channel and just came across this older video When you reached the end of the windrow I noticed the stuffin’,packin’ , sneezing and farting ended the sound stopped! Does that happen on the Krone as well? I’m assuming you use an SCV to stop it
Thanx near the left coast near the Krapitol of California
well one time i lost a bale in the middle of the road at night and did not realize i lost it till the next day!!! and as i was picking it up in the after noon the cops showed up and said they where glad i came back for it cuz they tried to move it and couldn't..
no, it keeps running he just lifts the pickup so it doesent get damaged. you can see how he lifts it during some of the gopro footage. but the bailer doesent shut down till the end of the day!
Great story Wes. Hard to believe that you could save all the money by going all the way to Oregon and shipping the machinery back to NJ. However that was a smart move there and I assume it has paid off for you. When you refer to "mulching" I guess you mean hay. Where in the world do you sell all that hay? Never knew it was such a big business but then I'm a city boy and havn't really thought about that. Pete
i came close to getting baled on that last squidioo
All round bales here unless it's straw, or small sqaure bale hay for smaller farms. In Ireland that size baler would be useless for anything other then straw as them places are much more open out, more space etc..
sorry for asking, but i presume they are 4 x 8 bales.. what price are yous for baling and then what is sell on price ? Would love to know the price difference from Ireland and U.S
A little off topic but... Have you ever looked into buying or making a trailer to move your swather?
A worker not a shirker...That's one of my Mom's sayings!
Guy that said you can't can eat your Hay all day!
Life rewards those that take the risk.
i would like to get pissed off instead of geting pissed on
Some people just don't want others in on what they are doing.
nice story! Is there a reason why so much of the property in NJ is grass land? I my region most of the land which is capable of getting worked with the tractor is in use for all kind of crops. there is just a little portion of grass land. BR Tom
So Wes who buys all your hay or who do you sell it to is it spoken for before you bale it I love what you do and would like to try it don't laugh we have a farm In nh and I was interested in how the business works great video
Is that a big ding I see on the hood (near the top) of the baler?
You can buy any peace of equipment and feel pretty confident if something happens to it you could fix it, that's handy when your buying a used baler and rake some people would have to spend the$60000!
Your right that baler dose get pretty dusty, New Holland needs to fix that
he has tried round bailing and hates it. he can get 5 times the hay out with the square and it is easier to stack AND it takes up less space to store than round bales
l like your channel and you think you could work a regular job and hay farm at the same time to get started hay farming
Wes, I know you sit the fence sometimes about the quality of your mulch hay, but my question for you is this....have you ever thought about using a round bailer that wraps the bails? I have seen in earlier videos where you are covering the hay to protect it and just wondered what you reasoning was. Great video by the way!
he sels it to the mushrom farm
Nice I live in vale Oregon
in my opinion, big sqaures are only suited to big areas, otherwise rounds are the way to go, easier handle them here etc.
that is the way it is here, but the big sqaures are only ever straw. and alot of them are round bales.
does the bailer automatically stop when you are turning a corner
Do you have a Safety Line tied to the GoPro ?
Hate to see the GoPro run through the bailer.
Although it would make an excellent video.
i know onelonelyfarmer uses a bale stacker, but my family would use a normal fontloader
well, good for you, irish guy.
That's crazy, I'm from Ontario Oregon, been watching your videos for a couple years now.. Ontario is labeled as the onion capitol of the world, over 20,000 semi loads shipped out annually....just a bit of useless info :)
Could someone please tell me what mulch hay is I am farming in Ireland where hay is hay ?
Mulch hay is hay that's sold to mushroom barns-- they tear it up and compost it-- basically let it rot down into humus, then move it into the mushroom barns to grow mushrooms on it to sell in the grocery stores as food and to food service companies selling bulk mushrooms to restaurants, canneries, etc. He did a video showing the mushroom farm unloading the hay and cutting up/tearing up the bales, turning composted hay, and in another video, went through the mushroom barns with one of their employees from start of the process to finish. It was very interesting.
Since the hay isn't for animal feed, it isn't anywhere near as important how the quality is. He can bale at moisture levels that would send most livestock hay farmers into cardiac arrest, bale less desirable grasses like warm season grasses, reed canarygrass, grass with lots of weeds in it, and it doesn't mess it up like it would in livestock hay where you really want the best quality you can make. He can store the square bales out in the weather and the damage remains acceptable, so long as they don't get heavy prolonged flooding rains that completely soak the bales. You'll notice in some of his videos that he's loading some bales that have sprouted grass growing out the sides of them or have rotted down or compressed under the weight of other bales to about half their thickness and look REALLY crappy-- but since the hay is ALL being composted into humus anyway, it doesn't matter like it would with livestock hay-- even beef cows that will eat nearly anything wouldn't eat hay like that, but it doesn't matter when it's being composted for mushroom production.
The big square bales work best when you're doing a lot of trucking-- which he is. Load up the semi and haul @ss to the mushroom farms he sells to which is I think an hour or two drive away or so? (don't recall if he ever actually said). Big squares are packed tight and hold their shape better and are HEAVY compared to a round bale. Round bales take up a lot of space, and have a lot of air gaps between them when stacked, and don't stack anywhere near as tight as large squares. Small squares are fine for high quality hay for select buyers (like horse people and stuff) but are a pain in the @ss for large-scale livestock production-- though in some places they ARE the preferred method and folks have a lot of automated means of handling them. Wouldn't be practical for the kind of tonnage and acreage he's doing for the mushroom business. If you were baling livestock hay in large square bales, of course you'd want to keep the moisture down to less than about 14% and bale the best quality forage you could, and would store the bales preferably indoors in a barn or at least under tarps. Someone mentioned wrapping bales but that's expensive for all that plastic, time consuming, and besides wrapping is to make SILAGE bales (haylage) by baling up about 50% moisture hay and then wrapping it quickly to seal out oxygen. The hay then ferments and produces lactic acid which then preserves it as haylage. Oxygen entering the bales will cause them to rot. Since he's taking the hay to a user who essentially rots it in a compost pile anyway, it doesn't really matter if it's got some water damage/rotten spots in it anyway, heated up from excess moisture ("steamed out" as he calls it) and so forth. Of course you wouldn't want ANY of those things to happen to hay you're baling for livestock feed. Basically, mulch hay is turned on it's head compared to baling livestock hay... most all the rules that apply to livestock hay go out the window with mulch hay...
We round bale in our part of the country-- don't know of a single big square baler in our entire area, or even region. BUT, round balers are 1) cheaper to buy-- you could buy a FLEET of round balers for what one new big square baler would cost, 2) don't require a very big, high horsepower tractor to operate-- we run 72 horsepower Ford/New Holland 5610S tractors ourselves, and 3) are fine for farmers producing mostly their own hay to feed their own beef cattle, which is the primary use in our area, where there's not a lot of long-distance heavy-hauling of the bales involved. Folks that want to buy hay can either get small square bales (if they can find someone doing all the extra labor to make them, and pay the premium for them) or get round bales. The only time we see big squares is when folks are bringing them in from other areas to sell for super-high prices during drought. Those are the main advantages of round balers-- a large, fairly heavy package of hay made by a fairly cheap baler using a fairly small tractor, capable of being handled by smaller tractors and fed, where a lot of hauling and moving isn't involved. If you were trucking hay a long way or moving shit-tons of the stuff, then a big square baler has definite advantages.
Later! OL J R :)
luke strawwalker Thank you for the educational post, it puzzled me about this mulch hay bit i could not understand why someone would go to the trouble of saving hay and them using it for such . here we use straw mostly wheaten to grow mushrooms baled with the same said big balers , as regards haylage and silage we use round bales 4x4 for same wrapped in plastic as regards hay it is treated like gold dust here as its very hard to get enough (hay days) so you can imagine my amazement at the use of hay as a mulch , thanks again
What did you do about a mower??
Robert Charlo 96” level and pinking shears lol
although i respect our opinion, i think it is false. i wouldrather use a big sqare baler no matter what. store more hay in less space, they don't roll away(unless you are bailing on a sheer cliff) and easier to handle. again, i respect your opinion
I am curious, I wouldnt be surprised if it has happened. Yet have you ever left a field with the baler, to go to another field and find out from maybe the police that you dropped a bale in the middle of the road?
You must be getting sick of baling by now lol.... when so you fire up the TR for corn and beans?
make a viedo of you baling hay
wes, do a short story on why you decided to do youtube videos and some of your expeeriences and comments. Thanks, Ryan from OK. Boomer Sooner
i m moving to new Jersey and starting in the mluch hay bis
Oregon pronounced Or-e-Gun
What????
see for picking them up we can't use a bale stacker, place is to small to operate one and justify paying for one.
Hay, I'm the first.