TRAINWRECKORDS: "Van Halen III" by Van Halen

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  • Опубліковано 10 сер 2018
  • Van Halen's third incarnation! Featuring new singer Gary Cherone, the guy from Extreme! And it was Extremely bad.
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  • @PuppetMasterIX
    @PuppetMasterIX 4 роки тому +2294

    8:23 This song is just Gary Cherone listing off rejected Mega Man bosses.

    • @roncriswell2685
      @roncriswell2685 4 роки тому +45

      Yes LOL..... congratulations you just won the internet please use responsible 😁

    • @shaunandthebugs
      @shaunandthebugs 4 роки тому +249

      Ah yes, my favorite boss, gay man.

    • @alanmooreisrasputinreincar8106
      @alanmooreisrasputinreincar8106 4 роки тому +106

      Does rich man throw money at people?

    • @GasmaskAvenger
      @GasmaskAvenger 4 роки тому +38

      @@alanmooreisrasputinreincar8106 hah a reverse Ted DiBiase.

    • @Metlhd313
      @Metlhd313 4 роки тому +76

      Super man's power is getting Capcom sued for copyright infringement

  • @farenheit2456
    @farenheit2456 3 роки тому +2443

    Eddie Van Halen: "Gary has none of the ego that the other singers have"
    Translation: "Gary doesn't object to my terrible ideas and I am allowed to do whatever the hell I want"

    • @andresflores1500
      @andresflores1500 3 роки тому +93

      Don't forget the sound at the end of every Eddie comment-- the sound of snorting up an empire. N

    • @SavageGreywolf
      @SavageGreywolf 3 роки тому +210

      It's somewhat telling that David Lee Roth and Sammy Hagar were on better terms with each other than with Eddie at the end, even after their joint tour turned into a sh*tshow of ego clashes.

    • @capnmo6718
      @capnmo6718 3 роки тому +75

      Eddie always pushed for what he wanted, was rejected a few times, and finally said 'fuck it' and stopped listening. And that was when DLR was still in the band.

    • @Jaggedknife11
      @Jaggedknife11 2 роки тому +34

      I mean that "I totally believe all my ideas are good and I need to get what I want no matter what" attitude is also what made Eddie such an innovator in many different aspects of guitar.

    • @DTheAustralian
      @DTheAustralian 2 роки тому +61

      @@Jaggedknife11
      The attitude works in some areas, but not in others. See VH3 as such an example of the latter.

  • @nickchambers3935
    @nickchambers3935 Рік тому +714

    I love how Todd sounds genuinely offended by “a word to the wisdom tooth”

  • @milit4ryfairy
    @milit4ryfairy 2 роки тому +1286

    "all he does is TV themes"
    OK but can we agree that the law & order theme song slaps

    • @EvilEyeGypsy
      @EvilEyeGypsy Рік тому +37

      And The Rockford Files. The guitar solo on it is killer.

    • @adolforuizsalazar51
      @adolforuizsalazar51 Рік тому +20

      Come on… The Hill Street Blues is a great theme… not powerfull but an everyday theme

    • @FURTHER_ADO
      @FURTHER_ADO Рік тому +1

      Booooooooo be more funny

    • @ChrisHopkinsBass
      @ChrisHopkinsBass Рік тому +19

      And The A-Team

    • @atranfanatic
      @atranfanatic Рік тому +7

      Nah. The Hardcastle & McCormick theme was one of his best besides The Greatest American Hero and The A-Team!

  • @JomasterTheSecond
    @JomasterTheSecond 5 років тому +3877

    As the Pizza Man I can confirm that I actually do want a slice.

  • @cutecobra9696
    @cutecobra9696 4 роки тому +1746

    The album cover looks like a twitter meme.

    • @MRB16th
      @MRB16th 3 роки тому +94

      It depicted a fan's reaction to spending $15 on it.
      If they did some production and cut it to 35-40 minutes (45 minutes maximum), you would have a solid album here.

    • @EpicB
      @EpicB 3 роки тому +8

      @@MRB16th Since I've never heard the album, any songs you think should go? The first song to go should probably be Eddie's piano ballad.

    • @BusinessZeus
      @BusinessZeus 3 роки тому +3

      @@EpicB Remove Neworld and squish it into Without You and doing the same for Primary (Into Ballot Or The Bullet). Switching out A Year To The Day fot That's Why I Love You? No, Josephina is worse! Well not really worse but I just find it boring. So Many Say I is as dorky as Just A Friend so yeah I admire it sort of. I find Ballot Or The Bullet is stupid, lame but kinda fun and rhythmically good

    • @MRB16th
      @MRB16th 3 роки тому +9

      @@EpicB On my MP3 copy, I put Neworld, One I Want, Primary, Ballot Or The Bullet and How Many Say I (yes, this is Eddie's piano ballad) in the garbage, replacing them all with That's Why I Love You.
      Of the remaining tracks, I also trimmed Without You, From Afar, Once, Josephina and Year To The Day, taking the album down from 65½ minutes to 41 minutes.

    • @davidnissim589
      @davidnissim589 3 роки тому +39

      It's literally a guy getting shot in the gut with a cannon

  • @nickchambers3935
    @nickchambers3935 3 роки тому +702

    "Pizza man, just want a slice"
    What exactly does Gary think a pizza man is? Just a man who eats a lot of pizza?

    • @nathaniellevesque2782
      @nathaniellevesque2782 Рік тому +28

      Why do you think a large percentage of pizzamen are teenagers?

    • @foxx64
      @foxx64 Рік тому +38

      I think he's saying that the man who works in pizza, i.e. the delivery guy or cook wants a paycheck

    • @JTFSIX
      @JTFSIX Рік тому +5

      @@foxx64 exactly...to be part of the action, convenience, tier of treatment, etc.

    • @kevvyofficial
      @kevvyofficial Рік тому +10

      In that case, I’m a pizza man.

    • @TJfromEarth
      @TJfromEarth 6 місяців тому +3

      right? and why would a pizza man be longing for a slice of pizza when he literally has access to as many slices as he wants

  • @supostofilhodogugu
    @supostofilhodogugu 2 роки тому +492

    "Van Halen FUCKING rules" literally the first thing in my head when I wake up every day

    • @samuelstensgaard4828
      @samuelstensgaard4828 2 роки тому +31

      You, I like you.

    • @xp8969
      @xp8969 Рік тому +13

      That sounds like a cursed existence lol

    • @brycedownpitch
      @brycedownpitch 7 місяців тому +5

      ​@@xp8969I dunno; if I woke and not thought that Van Halen ruled, I wouldn't be alive right now. It should be common sense. Lol

  • @berithakuma654
    @berithakuma654 4 роки тому +1062

    "In a word to the wisdom tooth" sounds like a case of "I want this line to be exactly this many syllables and I don't care what word choice I need to use to make it fit."

    • @robbiegarnz7732
      @robbiegarnz7732 4 роки тому +26

      Berith Akuma lol! Maybe the wisdom tooth is actually a demigod who overseas good dental hygiene!

    • @BewareTheLilyOfTheValley
      @BewareTheLilyOfTheValley 4 роки тому +79

      It sounds like a lyric from Train, haha!

    • @rhabdob3895
      @rhabdob3895 4 роки тому +44

      When 90’s Beck just pukes word salad, it was at least entertaining.

    • @LeSensuel
      @LeSensuel 4 роки тому +31

      This is litterally what Bad Lip Reading does, for comedy!

    • @austinfailz
      @austinfailz 4 роки тому +10

      It's also an attempt to be... "Clever."

  • @paradoxofepicurus
    @paradoxofepicurus 4 роки тому +1043

    Hey don't blame Mike Post, you can hear the bass in all his t.v. songs.

    • @Cheepchipsable
      @Cheepchipsable 3 роки тому +25

      Weren't the Rockford Files theme and TGAH theme big hits?

    • @millicentchuyin6763
      @millicentchuyin6763 3 роки тому +48

      Seen the latest defunctlandTV documentary?? He wasn't bad at his job, he just did it.

    • @Maniac536
      @Maniac536 3 роки тому +24

      MillicentChuyin he tossed master tapes...I don’t think that’s forgivable

    • @crnkmnky
      @crnkmnky 3 роки тому +58

      @@Maniac536 *what!?* 😭 Mike, no!
      I suppose I get it. If you’re rapidly cranking out disposable music for disposable television, why would you treat the tapes like rare cultural artifacts? So much of the first 40 years of television is lost because the BBC taped over the shows, or Paramount just tossed the film reels into the river.

    • @collinjamesguitar
      @collinjamesguitar 2 роки тому +5

      Underrated comment

  • @Dangeresque300
    @Dangeresque300 3 роки тому +3058

    RIP Eddie Van Halen, 1955-2020
    May he be remembered for much better music than this.

    • @ospero7681
      @ospero7681 3 роки тому +243

      My local rock station did an impromptu tribute to Van Halen yesterday evening (the news broke around 9 pm Central European Time). I don't think anything from this album was played. For good reason.

    • @Ratmus1
      @Ratmus1 3 роки тому +17

      @@ospero7681 Same

    • @EpicB
      @EpicB 3 роки тому +54

      @@ospero7681 I went out on the night the news broke. I ended up blasting Panama in the car.

    • @henryconner3002
      @henryconner3002 3 роки тому +14

      @@ospero7681 Eddie Van Halen died a day before my birthday

    • @SpyHunter89
      @SpyHunter89 3 роки тому +53

      And that's a darn shame, because this video seems to imply, to me that Eddie was one of the main reasons why Van Halen III sucked as much as it did. While I don't doubt all that, I still love the guy and will, as you said, remember him for the loads of other, much better, music he was also responsible for.

  • @davidnissim589
    @davidnissim589 Рік тому +391

    The best review I saw of How Many Say I (Eddie’s piano ballad) was “as a vocalist, he’s an amazing guitarist.”

    • @ryancasablancas8361
      @ryancasablancas8361 8 місяців тому +13

      That Chuck Klosterman article is brilliant. One of the greatest intellectual analyses of hard rock ever written.

    • @freeparking301
      @freeparking301 2 місяці тому

      My favorite Klosterman article was his breakdown of the 1979 performance of “In The Evening” by Led Zeppelin at Knebworth. He goes through all the different stage costumes Jimmy Page wore over the years and says his 1979 business casual look “nicely highlights his distain for eating certain things (such as food).” And goes on about the inexplicable rotary phone John Paul Jones kept on his organ.

  • @ethandavis4047
    @ethandavis4047 5 років тому +663

    “Stand for nothing” uh they clearly stand for good dental hygiene

    • @toobmaniac
      @toobmaniac 5 років тому +10

      Ethan Davis
      With dentures that never rot

    • @mj-yo7vt
      @mj-yo7vt 4 роки тому +1

      I laughed out loud

    • @zls9890
      @zls9890 3 роки тому +3

      @@toobmaniac if there's one thing we all should learn from Eddie's legacy: don't do meth

  • @charliedawson4877
    @charliedawson4877 5 років тому +504

    Mike Post gets payed everytime that *Dun dun* Law & Order sound plays. He's basically the Spielberg of TV composing.

    • @ECL28E
      @ECL28E 4 роки тому +64

      The John Williams of TV?

    • @kdvincent1982
      @kdvincent1982 4 роки тому +26

      *paid

    • @hazyaspect
      @hazyaspect Рік тому +4

      The Hill Street Blues theme won him a Grammy and topped out at number 10 on the Billboard Hot 100 in 1981. He is incredibly talented.

    • @NOLAgenX
      @NOLAgenX Рік тому +3

      Didn’t he do the them to Magnum PI too (the original show)?

  • @punklover99
    @punklover99 9 місяців тому +256

    "Without you" sounds like what the cast of friends thinks is heavy metal

    • @robertocaba5915
      @robertocaba5915 Місяць тому +2

      😅😅😅😅

    • @hiimemily
      @hiimemily Місяць тому +13

      metal for people who think miracle whip is too spicy

  • @rayg6497
    @rayg6497 Рік тому +147

    Mike Post and Eddie were friends. My guess is that Warner Bros wouldn't let Eddie produce the album himself, so he brought in Post to do it and Post's method of producing was to just let Eddie do whatever he wanted.

  • @niki_bbb
    @niki_bbb 5 років тому +750

    "Giant Man -- that's actually Ant-Man again" I laughed so hard

    • @commentfreely5443
      @commentfreely5443 5 років тому +4

      led zep did long songs.
      american pie long song
      nothing wrong with length

    • @roguishpaladin
      @roguishpaladin 5 років тому +31

      @@commentfreely5443 ...I feel like you might have replied to the wrong thread?

    • @brandievan2678
      @brandievan2678 4 роки тому +7

      RAY MAN! HES GOT NO LIMBS
      SAND MAN! HES A MAN MADE OF SAND!
      THE MAN! OH NO THATS A WOMEN!
      OOPS I MEAN GIRL, GIRL GIRL GIRL

    • @brendanb2982
      @brendanb2982 4 роки тому +1

      @@brandievan2678 SAND MAN! Bring me a treat!

    • @tafua_a
      @tafua_a 3 роки тому +3

      @@brendanb2982 OTHER SAND MAN! He drinks beer and fights!
      MEGA MAN! Fights robots and shoots!
      VINCE MC MAN! That's some good shit!
      WO-MAN! She don't need no man!

  • @tobimakkura
    @tobimakkura 5 років тому +853

    I have some lyrics!
    "Dayman (AaaahhhAAAHHHHhhh) fighter of the Nightman!"

    • @krawithan
      @krawithan 4 роки тому +52

      Champion of the Sun (ah-ah-ah)
      You're a Master of Karate

    • @beyonddisturbed
      @beyonddisturbed 4 роки тому +29

      @@krawithan And Friendship

    • @bartonez123
      @bartonez123 4 роки тому +29

      @@beyonddisturbed For Everyone

    • @Vichedges
      @Vichedges 4 роки тому +3

      @@bartonez123 What is it with you guys reciting lyrics? We've all seen the show.

    • @SeanStrife
      @SeanStrife 4 роки тому +37

      @@Vichedges I bet you're a blast at parties...

  • @jackal59
    @jackal59 4 роки тому +287

    OK, "He sounds like something you'd play if you wanted to scare raccoons out of your yard" is the funniest thing I've heard all week.

    • @JK-gm6kk
      @JK-gm6kk 2 роки тому +1

      I read this before the part in the vid, and I still fucking died

  • @romaneberle
    @romaneberle Рік тому +77

    "pizza man - just want a slice" is the best line ever written. i love it.

  • @Albeit_Jordan
    @Albeit_Jordan 4 роки тому +773

    "they fight, triangle man wins"
    Gee, spoiler alert.

    • @kylehegedus5498
      @kylehegedus5498 4 роки тому +30

      Albeit_Jordan THEY MIGHT BE GIANTS!!!!

    • @Krone0k
      @Krone0k 3 роки тому +17

      Kyle Hegedus They might be giants... But do you know that Istanbul was once Constanipole?

    • @QuadMochaMatti
      @QuadMochaMatti 3 роки тому +14

      But yet, Triangle Man is is made up of particles, as are we all, including Universe Man. Therefore, Particle Man is ultimately triumphant.

    • @2-d_in_a_bag
      @2-d_in_a_bag 3 роки тому +7

      @@QuadMochaMatti And all of us have a little birdhouse in our souls

    • @BenCol
      @BenCol 3 роки тому +9

      @@QuadMochaMatti Damn it, I was rooting for Person Man.

  • @CasaiAgicap
    @CasaiAgicap 5 років тому +1821

    It's amazing how Eddie's singing sounds like a Kmart-brand Roger Waters.

    • @kittykatmeowmix
      @kittykatmeowmix 4 роки тому +129

      Got that exact same vibe. If you've listened to Waters's solo album Amused to Death, there's A LOT of songs on that album that remind me of the album closer on this album.

    • @deacon6453
      @deacon6453 4 роки тому +121

      Honestly yeah, kinda like one of the softer tracks on The Wall or Final Cut but worse.

    • @brandievan2678
      @brandievan2678 4 роки тому +52

      MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY! more like the final cut having a stroke, as if the record wasn't having a stroke itself🤣🤣

    • @tylerhackner9731
      @tylerhackner9731 4 роки тому +88

      Was thinking the exact same thing. This is one of the worst off-brand Roger Waters impressions (besides the Nostalgia Critic).

    • @ECL28E
      @ECL28E 4 роки тому +29

      @@tylerhackner9731 Even as a current watcher of his stuff... yeah, that review was pretty insufferable. Mostly for wasting their Corey Taylor collab!!

  • @matthintz9468
    @matthintz9468 3 роки тому +1051

    Gary Cherone gets a bad rap at times, but his live performances of Van Halen classics, from both the Roth and Hagar era) are top notch. The powers that be (Eddie, RIP) did him a disservice.

    • @scoman73
      @scoman73 3 роки тому +74

      I attended this tour, Cherone did tunes from both eras justice

    • @EpicB
      @EpicB 2 роки тому +121

      It's a shame Van Halen's planned "kitchen sink" tour (which would have featured all three singers and the return of Michael Anthony) was unable to happen.

    • @Big_Sierra
      @Big_Sierra 2 роки тому +7

      Well yeah, it’s pretty easy when you just imitate the other singers and don’t put your own spin on it.

    • @jeremybean-hodges6397
      @jeremybean-hodges6397 2 роки тому +85

      @@Big_Sierra no it’s not. You try singing like Hagar and Lee Roth! It’s not middle of the road stuff

    • @TheMidnightPhil
      @TheMidnightPhil 2 роки тому +26

      I do agree that the tour was a different beast altogether, and if nothing else the set lists from those shows were a much better representation of VH's overall catalog. I think Gary even said at one point that in hindsight he wished the band had toured first to both debut themselves via live performance and to also explore their musical partnership a little before trying to write.

  • @notmyrealname453
    @notmyrealname453 3 роки тому +657

    Coming back here after Eddie Van Halen passed away from throat cancer. He was a talented man who made mistakes but will always be remembered for his unique guitar skills.
    R.I.P. Eddie Van Halen
    1955 - 2020

    • @akshunnadevansh5531
      @akshunnadevansh5531 3 роки тому +6

      I wanted Eddie to have solo career like Steve vie just composing

    • @akshunnadevansh5531
      @akshunnadevansh5531 3 роки тому +2

      I wanted Eddie to have solo career like Steve vie just composing

    • @BrendanJSmith
      @BrendanJSmith 2 роки тому +7

      @@akshunnadevansh5531 you can delete one of these comments, ya know.

    • @johnblossom8447
      @johnblossom8447 2 роки тому +1

      It was actually brain cancer that killed EVH.

    • @danfoss1535
      @danfoss1535 Рік тому

      You can too

  • @EmperorTigerstar
    @EmperorTigerstar 5 років тому +1357

    Todd covering Van Halen? This is a dream come true. Thank you Todd. Thank you.

    • @FlushedNoob
      @FlushedNoob 5 років тому +10

      You should tell people about your music more

    • @bocanadanico
      @bocanadanico 5 років тому +29

      Top 10 Anime Crossovers

    • @garrettnhanson
      @garrettnhanson 5 років тому +4

      Love your videos btw.

    • @bassistwithadeathwish7277
      @bassistwithadeathwish7277 5 років тому +9

      EmperorTigerstar
      Hey Tigerstar, you like Van Halen? You... you like Todd?

    • @thevoidlookspretty7079
      @thevoidlookspretty7079 5 років тому +4

      The Cartoon Adict I find this man in the comments section everywhere I go.

  • @MegaTempo22
    @MegaTempo22 4 роки тому +766

    They tried so hard to make Gary Cherone sound like Sammy Hagar. Gary tried so hard to reach notes that he didn't bother with in Extreme. Gary Cherone is very talented when he plays to his strengths and that is either with Extreme or on his own.

    • @bobthebear1246
      @bobthebear1246 3 роки тому +38

      Perfectly stated. I've also been saying this since 1998.

    • @TheBfutgreg
      @TheBfutgreg Рік тому +24

      Similar to Blaze Bayley's stint with Maiden, but moreso on the live tours...like you have a new singer with a vastly different register than the former vocalist....not fair at all to the new guy

    • @Kylora2112
      @Kylora2112 10 місяців тому +5

      @@TheBfutgreg I don't know what was worse, Maiden making Blaze try to hit Bruce's high notes (and not tuning down to Eb or D to make things easier for him) or Judas Priest making Tim Owens act like Rob Halford on stage. I actually love the Blaze era of Maiden (X Factor is a dark masterpiece), and Ripper did a lot of the old Priest tracks justice (but Glenn and KK weren't great at writing without Rob), but Jesus Christ, seeing Ripper in full leather gear and trying to ride the motorcycle on stage when he has the charisma of a sack of potatoes was just laughable. Pro tip for bands: don't have the new guy try to act like the old guy.
      I've seen Priest post-Glenn Tipton (Ritchie Faulkner and Andy Sneap on guitars), and while Andy is kinda awkward trying to pull off the leather look, he's not trying to front the damn band! Ritchie is a fucking ham on stage and I love him to death, though

    • @unknownkingdom
      @unknownkingdom 4 місяці тому

      Nahhe sucks

  • @Saintnick90
    @Saintnick90 3 роки тому +219

    Gary Cherone, as the lead singer of Van Halen, sounds like Chris Cornell if he had hay fever and was always on the verge of a sneeze.

    • @JK-gm6kk
      @JK-gm6kk 2 роки тому +8

      I honestly didn't even know it was a thing until watching this just now. Van Hagar was bad enough, but no one even compares this lineup when talking about which they prefer. Which is extremely telling

    • @paulthomasbranda7591
      @paulthomasbranda7591 Рік тому +1

      They should have offered Cornell the job!!! I was not crazy about Audioslave, I tried!!!😊

  • @Kochiha
    @Kochiha 3 роки тому +823

    Well, here we are in 2020, and as of yesterday, Eddie Van Halen is no longer with us, ending the Van Halen story on a very tragic note.

    • @EpicB
      @EpicB 3 роки тому +107

      At least Van Halen III didn't end up being their final album.

    • @michaelvessel4604
      @michaelvessel4604 3 роки тому +24

      @@kenterminateddq5311 So, I guess Van Halen didn't quite go out with a whimper after all, and that's good.

    • @calmbbaer
      @calmbbaer 3 роки тому +29

      EVH's reconciliation with everyone else made wonder about Van Halen's future. If everyone's copacetic, they might be viable as a touring entity by combining surviving members: Wolfgang in the EVH role, Michael coming back, and the other two in the roles they last held. Given how Eddie made Wolfgang his protege, one might call it closer to the original album's lineup than anything since 1996. Sounds like heresy now, but it might seem all right by the time touring becomes possible again. Just omit "Eruption," though; that one's Eddie's.

    • @richardkey4289
      @richardkey4289 3 роки тому +27

      It hurts to lose these " monsters of Rock" , but at least they shared their gift with us....
      * Fun fact: I ditched a comfy summer job to go see the mosters of rock tour, Seattle,1988, Kingdom Come, Metallica , Dokken, Scorpions, VH. Awesome show, horrible stadium( Kingdome), I talked a cute girl into riding on my shoulders for 5 min.,

    • @EpicB
      @EpicB 3 роки тому +17

      @@calmbbaer Maybe. Before Eddie died Sammy Hagar apparently expressed interest in going on the road alongside David Lee Roth. And they haven't said anything concrete since Eddie died.

  • @alevtinasherman3411
    @alevtinasherman3411 4 роки тому +1144

    "X's Kurt Cobain to Y''s Chad Kroeger" can apply flawlessly to any industry. Thank for this gem, Todd!

    • @dw89music73
      @dw89music73 4 роки тому +65

      As well as "X's Eddie Vedder to Y's Scott Stapp".

    • @kylehegedus5498
      @kylehegedus5498 4 роки тому +51

      X’s Layne Staley to Y’s Aaron Lewis

    • @dw89music73
      @dw89music73 4 роки тому +13

      @Brendan Crosby Alex Band sounds more like Eddie Vedder than Chris Cornell.

    • @NoOne-yp8ot
      @NoOne-yp8ot 4 роки тому +42

      Coming off another Trainwreckord, "X's John Fogerty to Y's Doug Clifford."

    • @globetrekker86
      @globetrekker86 3 роки тому +23

      @@NoOne-yp8ot That’s gotta hurt, given that both these guys are - or were-CCR members 😂 At least Doug’s voice was tolerable, but Stu Cook’s... Oh, boy

  • @chanewinthrop1089
    @chanewinthrop1089 4 роки тому +387

    The third wave of VH better known as Van Hasbeen.

    • @denniscassley2569
      @denniscassley2569 4 роки тому +24

      I listened to this CD ONCE. ONLY ONCE. And THAT was ONE TIME TOO MANY.

    • @dvt1393
      @dvt1393 4 роки тому +7

      @@denniscassley2569 I'm glad that you recovered your mental faculties. Something tells me that this album is a mind breaker.

    • @denniscassley2569
      @denniscassley2569 4 роки тому +13

      @@dvt1393 Awful. Waste of money, like U2's "Pop." They should've offered refunds. "Pizza Man...wants a slice." Goodness gracious...

    • @joshuawright8990
      @joshuawright8990 4 роки тому +4

      Dennis Cassley I have it on cassette.

    • @kylehegedus5498
      @kylehegedus5498 4 роки тому +11

      “Van Failin”

  • @WellDone..101
    @WellDone..101 2 роки тому +54

    Dave - cool man
    Sammy - red scream man
    Gary - fucked up man

  • @PutItAway101
    @PutItAway101 4 роки тому +200

    The chorus of "Without You" could've been saved if everything else in the song was different

    • @wolfgangervin2582
      @wolfgangervin2582 Рік тому +17

      It feels like it's simultaneously trying to be Hagar-era Van Halen and Extreme at the same time while lacking either Hagar or Bettencourt.

    • @PutItAway101
      @PutItAway101 Рік тому

      @@wolfgangervin2582 savage burn!

    • @faceofkongos516
      @faceofkongos516 Рік тому +1

      Motley Crue did this title better tbh

    • @hiimemily
      @hiimemily Рік тому +2

      ​@@faceofkongos516 That's... the fact that that's true is such a damning thing to say about Van Halen's "Without You", because Mötley Crüe's "Without You" is not good.

    • @bls8959
      @bls8959 Рік тому

      The best song from this era isn't even on the album

  • @Number9Robotic
    @Number9Robotic 4 роки тому +410

    Young man! There's no need to feel down!
    Spoonman! Come together with your plan!

    • @Bismuth83X
      @Bismuth83X 3 роки тому +32

      Mega Man! Super fighting robot!

    • @bobthebear1246
      @bobthebear1246 3 роки тому +10

      True dat. Chris Cornell's lyrics blow-away anything on this album.

    • @TimmyTickle
      @TimmyTickle 3 роки тому +25

      Muffin Man! He lives in Drury Lane!

    • @kylehegedus5498
      @kylehegedus5498 3 роки тому +24

      Spider-Man! Spider-Man! Does whatever a spider can!

    • @BusinessZeus
      @BusinessZeus 3 роки тому +2

      @@kylehegedus5498 ok

  • @gabe_s_videos
    @gabe_s_videos 5 років тому +378

    Todd, as usual, I wanna thank you for inadvertently introducing me to one of my new favorite songs, "Get The Funk Out."

    • @chadnovell5366
      @chadnovell5366 5 років тому +42

      That whole album is untouchable!

    • @tmtmtlsml
      @tmtmtlsml 4 роки тому +28

      @@chadnovell5366 I would argue that there is one ballad too many on Pornograffiti. Either "Song For Love" or "When I First Kissed You" could have stood to be cut. Otherwise, I agree it's pretty close to perfect. Even has guest appearances by Pat Travers and Dweezil Zappa!

    • @2-d_in_a_bag
      @2-d_in_a_bag 3 роки тому +29

      He has that effect on people. He's gotten me into a lot of music, inadvertently or not, including some of my favourite artists and songs today!

    • @bobthebear1246
      @bobthebear1246 3 роки тому +3

      @@suprchickn7745 Yeah, *Extreme II: Pornograffiti* is a great album. Loved it.

    • @BusinessZeus
      @BusinessZeus 3 роки тому +4

      He-Man Woman Hater is better than Get The Funk
      *CHANGE MY MIND*

  • @NickFieldMedia
    @NickFieldMedia Рік тому +110

    Love these Trainwreckords videos. The way we can't see Todd's face yet can make out his expressions nigh-on perfectly is something I'll never tire of.

  • @mcmlxxxviimcmxcvi8641
    @mcmlxxxviimcmxcvi8641 3 роки тому +90

    Ah, yes, Mike Post... I remember, back when I was a barely 10 year old kid in the early 90ies, I already knew this man's name, because he appeared in the credits of literally every fucking TV show that my mom and I used to watch back then...

  • @Apemopo
    @Apemopo 4 роки тому +189

    "without you" sounds like what eddie's wearing in the video

    • @n3v3rg01ngback
      @n3v3rg01ngback 4 роки тому +8

      Apemopo Drop that zero and get with the hero.

    • @BusinessZeus
      @BusinessZeus 3 роки тому +17

      A jester hat and a black seethrough jacket with a blue shirt underneath (fingerless gloves) and giraffe shorts while still wearing black trousers?

    • @noesunyoutuber7680
      @noesunyoutuber7680 3 роки тому +10

      @@BusinessZeus In other words, everything but the kitchen sink, just like the song structure.

  • @KayleeCee
    @KayleeCee 5 років тому +715

    I remember being out shopping somewhere with my mom in 1998 or 99. She saw some guy wearing a Van Halen III t-shirt that had some slogan on the back, I forget what exactly, but it implied that VH3 was the best iteration of the band. My mom spotted it and she whispered to me that the guy, his t-shirt, and his taste in music were fucking lame.

    • @JamesOhGoodie
      @JamesOhGoodie 5 років тому +111

      Your mom's alright.

    •  5 років тому +37

      Kaylee F BEST. MOM. EVER.

    • @KayleeCee
      @KayleeCee 5 років тому +71

      lurch321 Yeah, my mom is awesome. If it wasn't for her incredible music collection and always tuning the radio to good rock stations when I was growing up, who the hell knows what kind of shit I'd be listening to now. I was raised right!

    • @Anomaly188
      @Anomaly188 5 років тому +9

      Well at least your mom has good taste.

    • @toddprater14
      @toddprater14 5 років тому +12

      Slogan......Check out the big brain on brad🤪

  • @thedrewdog
    @thedrewdog 3 роки тому +87

    "Word to the Wisdom Tooth", combined with the image of Danny Glover in his boxers -- chicken taunting a madman with a flamethrower, made me laugh and cringe so hard. It was like laughing at the powerful funk of a bubbly fart.

  • @hiimemily
    @hiimemily 3 роки тому +280

    A big issue with _Van Halen III_ is that, much like fellow Trainwreckord _Be Here Now_ by Oasis, practically every song is interminable. Aside from the two instrumentals on this album, there isn't a single track shorter than five minutes. Its 12 songs run an hour and six minutes total, but it's such a slog to get through that it feels more like three hours.

    • @dragontales1999
      @dragontales1999 Рік тому +9

      At least BHN had a few songs under that ("Don't Go Away", "I Hope, I Think, I Know").

    • @ryanfraley7113
      @ryanfraley7113 Рік тому +10

      A good producer would have heard this and made them go back and start over from square zero.

    • @Kylora2112
      @Kylora2112 10 місяців тому +2

      @@ryanfraley7113 Yeah, this is one reason bands tend to suck when they start producing their own albums. You need someone to tell you that a bad idea is bad.

    • @gogovish
      @gogovish 10 місяців тому +4

      hi emily

    • @doodooswaggy3825
      @doodooswaggy3825 8 місяців тому

      You aren’t Emily, btw

  • @SteveElOtaku
    @SteveElOtaku 5 років тому +447

    That Eddie Van Halen piano ballad sounds like someone trying to do a bad Roger Waters impression, specifically on those quieter bits of The Wall, with the lyrical equivalent of Nickelback writing.

    • @johnnybrown9581
      @johnnybrown9581 5 років тому +22

      I kinda thought the same thing like “One of My Turns” or something lol it’s the St. Anger of VH XD

    • @I_Have_The_Most_Japanese_Music
      @I_Have_The_Most_Japanese_Music 5 років тому +1

      Ouch

    • @IAmKillEveryone
      @IAmKillEveryone 5 років тому +7

      LOL I thought the exact same thing. It sounded like second-rate Roger Waters. It's cool tho, cause Waters' 87 album Radio K.A.O.S. featured a guitar player that was more or less a second-rate EVH.

    • @BillKilmerslayer
      @BillKilmerslayer 5 років тому

      Eeeeyyuupp

    • @qty1315
      @qty1315 4 роки тому +11

      I like to imagine that Eddie asked Gary to sing on that song, but Gary said that he didn't want to sing it, and he didn't want it to be on the album at all. In fact, I think that Eddie recorded it in secret in his home studio and put it on the album without any of his band members consent.

  • @TheMightyPika
    @TheMightyPika 5 років тому +236

    Trainwreckords is such a great series. Every one has been a blast.

    • @I_Have_The_Most_Japanese_Music
      @I_Have_The_Most_Japanese_Music 5 років тому +4

      This vid was nicely done; I would subscribe to shit like this. I remember when the lead single came out; it got about 2 minutes of airplay in my market. Never knew there were 3 others. Also didn't know that Gary did the "Get the Funk Out" song--that's a good song. What VHIII needed to be and got crushed by: Jane's Addiction.

  • @demonmurphy
    @demonmurphy 4 роки тому +79

    It’s funny you mention Bill and Ted, Extreme had a song in the first movie.

    • @romangarcia608
      @romangarcia608 2 роки тому +10

      not to mention Keanu Reeves wore a VH shirt through the entire movie

    • @Joemama55122
      @Joemama55122 4 місяці тому +1

      @@romangarcia608and regular references to van halen in the lines

  • @davidnissim589
    @davidnissim589 3 роки тому +62

    I think the reason why Gary sounded like he did on the album is because the Van Halen brothers wanted him to sound like Sammy Hagar. His normal singing voice isn't like that, so he kinda had to force himself to sing like Hagar.

  • @loverboymadita7811
    @loverboymadita7811 5 років тому +327

    I dunno Todd, that haircut and goatee makes him look like a discount Guy Fieri to me...

    • @patricklauer4452
      @patricklauer4452 5 років тому +1

      ShameldaTheMomFriend™ yessssss! 😂

    • @theunwelcome
      @theunwelcome 5 років тому +21

      I thought it looked like he was joining the Blue Collar Comedy Tour

    • @wadespencer3623
      @wadespencer3623 5 років тому +2

      He's gonna put racing stripes on his guitar.

    • @Jaceblue04
      @Jaceblue04 5 років тому +8

      I was thinking a mix between Guy Fieri and James Hetfield.

    • @phil_cassidy
      @phil_cassidy 5 років тому +3

      Guy Fieri is discount Guy Fieri.

  • @johnm3152
    @johnm3152 5 років тому +328

    "This is Spinal Crap"

  • @SarahElisabethJoyal
    @SarahElisabethJoyal 4 роки тому +207

    This was actually the last album that Michael Anthony played on. He was fired in 2006 in favor of *Eddie's own son*.
    I get the feeling that those tensions must have already been present eight years earlier when this was being made.

    • @burtbacarach5034
      @burtbacarach5034 4 роки тому +27

      Yeah,the way VH treated Mike was shameful at best.Eddie talking about 'big egos' is also pretty funny considering he's a giant douche nozzle.

    • @GeeVanderplas
      @GeeVanderplas 3 роки тому +22

      When you kick everybody out of the band because they are hard-to-work-with assholes, chances are you are the hard-to-work-with asshole yourself.... I love Eddie's playing, but man, he's a massive dick. And he had the guts to say that Mike's vocals weren't that important, that he contributed to those just as much. Well, we've got How Many Say I as proof of Eddie's vocal talents. Meanwhile Mike continues to bring it in Chickenfoot and The Circle....

    • @gabrieleriva651
      @gabrieleriva651 3 роки тому +13

      15 years old Eddie's son.

    • @realcrunchy6572
      @realcrunchy6572 3 роки тому +5

      EVH played the bass on this album

    • @SarahElisabethJoyal
      @SarahElisabethJoyal 3 роки тому +6

      @@realcrunchy6572 zero percent surprised to hear that. A tiny bit surprised that he didn't try and take credit for it.

  • @donaltc
    @donaltc 2 роки тому +53

    This was the album where I realized David was the one paying attention to song structure and Eddie and Alex were just spending hours upon hours jamming. Too bad they couldn't keep it together longer

    • @JohnProph
      @JohnProph 2 роки тому +13

      pretty sure Ted Templeman was giving them a hand in the early years too

  • @LaNoLaCola
    @LaNoLaCola 5 років тому +617

    Well, at least Gary Cherone is a good singer.
    And when the Greatest American Hero theme came on, I thought the Snob would cameo.

    • @princesstamika
      @princesstamika 5 років тому +38

      Me too. Brought back some great memories.

    • @BrianBrecker
      @BrianBrecker 5 років тому +19

      who put these ridiculous subtitles here?

    • @PassTheMarmalade1957
      @PassTheMarmalade1957 5 років тому +3

      Too bad he doesn't try to sing well here.

    • @roguishpaladin
      @roguishpaladin 5 років тому +34

      Lady Marmalade I doubt he didn't try. It sounds like he was doing things that weren't really in his wheelhouse, like really screamy and really high. Listen to "More Than Words" and then listen to the songs on this album and ask yourself who thought that was a good change (hint: his initials are EVH).

    •  5 років тому +4

      Lady Marmalade I thought he sang well...……………...the only problem was that his voice and VH's music mixed together as successfully as oil and water.

  • @brainflash1
    @brainflash1 5 років тому +355

    "Without You" is a fitting title, since it sounds like every member of the band is playing a different song. They might also be referring to the sound mixer, since Gary's monotone voice is somehow both drowning out the instruments and completely unintelligible.

    • @ReitheOffbeatOtaku
      @ReitheOffbeatOtaku 5 років тому +24

      I agree; it wouldn't at all surprise me if the rumors Todd discussed about the producer leaving part of the way through were true.

    • @killergoose7643
      @killergoose7643 5 років тому +21

      I legit think that song was generated by a deep-learning AI.

    • @Anomaly188
      @Anomaly188 5 років тому +11

      It's what happens when the producer (presumably Eddie,) just fucks around on the rig twirling random knobs and bars with no knowledge of volume normalization or composition.

    • @BiggieTrismegistus
      @BiggieTrismegistus 5 років тому +7

      I remember the first time I heard "Without You". I'm hardly an expert about anything having to do with music right now, but back then as a teenager I knew even less. Even 1998 me could tell that the mixing on that track is horrendous. What is going on in that song? How did a major band on a major label put out something that just sounds so awful? Even if the song itself would have been decent (which it isn't) the production still would have prevented it from being any good.

    • @sirkayda7205
      @sirkayda7205 5 років тому +1

      Mike Post did an amazing job on this record. The production is perfect.

  • @manofthewest5395
    @manofthewest5395 3 роки тому +216

    I love Eddie, he was a reasonably good background vocalist for the DLR and Hagar albums. But by the late 90's chainsmoking had killed his voice. Listening to Ed try to sing is like rubbing sandpaper on your ears.

    • @imagiguard
      @imagiguard 2 роки тому +35

      It shows in his speaking voice too. In the 80s, he had a bright and youthful voice typical of 80s rockstars. But it got so much deeper and raspier that I wondered what happened with him while watching interview compilations. Turns out chainsmoking ruined his voice.
      I'm fascinated by voices, so I wonder if there are any other notable changes in any other rockstar's speaking voice over time...

    • @AaronKaiMCDNLD
      @AaronKaiMCDNLD 2 роки тому +6

      @@imagiguard yeah I remember watching that one interview they did in london back in 1978, and thought "he use to sound like that?" his voice was pretty youthful and nice back then, but by the 1990s it became raspy and deep.

    • @DecemberGuy77
      @DecemberGuy77 2 роки тому +6

      I though Mike was the primary backup vocalist..

    • @DonkeyBoyVids
      @DonkeyBoyVids 2 роки тому +1

      @@DecemberGuy77 he was

    • @bls8959
      @bls8959 Рік тому

      @@AaronKaiMCDNLD Nah it wasn't till he was diagnosed with cancer

  • @xsteveconwayx
    @xsteveconwayx 3 роки тому +201

    That’s why I like Band-Maid so much. The lead guitarist clearly has some Eddie influences, but she writes most of the music and does all the arranging. But she knows exactly how to play to each members strengths. Not only that, she is able to push her bandmates’ limits. The drummer said she was asked how fast she could play the tempo to a new song. She gave an honest answer and the guitarist made the tempo of the song even faster than that, forcing the drummer to speed up beyond what she thought she was capable of and she did it. I’m not comparing Kanami Tono to Eddie Van Halen. She clearly is inspired by him and you can hear the influence, but she’s brilliant at crafting and arranging songs in a way Eddie couldn’t do. They kind of sound like what a modern Van Halen would sound like if Van Halen were girls.

    • @TheKaiTetley
      @TheKaiTetley 2 роки тому +3

      As much as I love Van Halen, Band Maid are better.

    • @absentcoder4552
      @absentcoder4552 2 роки тому +9

      Which song was that? The one with the tempo faster than the drummer’s perceived cap?

    • @franco1926
      @franco1926 Рік тому +2

      Hey, band maid fan here too!

    • @johnprice8604
      @johnprice8604 Рік тому +2

      Agreed. I first checked out Band-Maid because of their strange cute cosplay aesthetic, but they can also write and perform world-class rock.

    • @joaquinlezcano2372
      @joaquinlezcano2372 Рік тому +1

      A lot of people like to compare Jimi Hendrix to Eddie Van Halen.
      Well, at least he know how to write a song.

  • @jordang7479
    @jordang7479 4 роки тому +431

    the phrase "Have you ever looked down when 'a homeless' walked by" is so cringe. I just feel like he had it as bum, vagrant or hobo when someone said "hey man they're called homeless now" so he changed that one word.

    • @nomobobby
      @nomobobby 3 роки тому +20

      It doesn't sound any better though, since the tone of voice is about the same. The tone of "Oh no, a poor F*er! let me guess he wants some change to? argh!" and that's the problem. No one wants to care about them and it comes across no matter what words you put there. The next lyrics just proves the point. "Or just change the channel/ When you saw a hungry child" The words aren't the problem, its the attitude they convey, the words are just the low paid workers at the local grease bucket taking everyone's crap- They just work here man. Not much point in getting mad about the words when they just do what we tell them to do.

    • @kaitlin9288
      @kaitlin9288 3 роки тому +13

      "A homeless"

    • @Volvagia1927
      @Volvagia1927 2 роки тому +5

      ​@EasyCoast Johnny Ryall uses the word bum and has 1,000x the empathy of that piano ballad. Looking at the full lyrics, the intended idea is "how many of you, out there, do _ inhuman thing", but that's just so abstract an approach that it can only be thin.

  • @housepanthers1602
    @housepanthers1602 5 років тому +186

    The Clash's Cut the Crap would make a gr8 Trainwreckords

    • @brandievan2678
      @brandievan2678 4 роки тому +5

      I WAS THINKING EXACTLY THAT!!!!!!!!!

    • @Thomasmemoryscentral
      @Thomasmemoryscentral 4 роки тому +6

      Is that a fitting title for how bad that album is?

    • @joeyjones4929
      @joeyjones4929 4 роки тому +53

      You're in luck

    • @LordKraken3
      @LordKraken3 4 роки тому +49

      I'm back from the future to say your wish has been granted.

    • @mj-yo7vt
      @mj-yo7vt 4 роки тому +10

      He did it!

  • @chromablind
    @chromablind 2 роки тому +60

    'Without You' sounds like if a Loverboy cover band was trying to do an impression of the Red Hot Chili Peppers.

    • @EntNatal
      @EntNatal 11 місяців тому +3

      Damn. The layers to that burn. Jesus man, what did Van Halen do to you?

  • @fhb3
    @fhb3 4 роки тому +35

    13:25 Mike Post: The man that scored your childhood.
    Well, at least mine.

  • @ACETYGRA
    @ACETYGRA 5 років тому +206

    The vibe I am getting is that Eddie thought with Gary that he found himself a perfect loyal little yes man who would just do what he was told.

    • @godozo
      @godozo 5 років тому +74

      And the punch line was that Gary DID do what he was told...and the band failed miserably because of it.

    • @ACETYGRA
      @ACETYGRA 5 років тому +14

      Yep. I always figured that the true masterminds were always Dave and later Sammy. They were both the main lyricists and arrangers while Eddie just simply tacked on his solos.

    • @ACETYGRA
      @ACETYGRA 5 років тому +23

      Plus Sammy was the one who helped the band survive the grunge invasion and stay relevant in the 90s.

    • @ACETYGRA
      @ACETYGRA 5 років тому +2

      Yes alexandra galici! They are both very similar to Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley of KISS.

    • @legasiguy551
      @legasiguy551 5 років тому +5

      No, I've seen all 3 singers and the tour with Gary was my favorite because he sang like Sammy and did songs from the entire catalog. Plus the songs from this record were great live! VH should actually bring him back because he's the most mellow to work with!

  • @YouCantDeleteDenzelL
    @YouCantDeleteDenzelL 4 роки тому +506

    "Have you ever looked down at a homeless/Or changed the channel when you saw a hungry child on TV"
    Wow. Deep, man. Just deep.

    • @TheStompboxer
      @TheStompboxer 4 роки тому +70

      Scott Baldwin A homeless.

    • @ramiror2132
      @ramiror2132 4 роки тому +64

      W E L I V E I N A S O C I E T Y

    • @bobthebear1246
      @bobthebear1246 3 роки тому +3

      OMFG 😂 you guys are killing me here 😂🤣

    • @austinleach1307
      @austinleach1307 3 роки тому +30

      Jewel wants her lyrics back.

    • @Sam-go3mb
      @Sam-go3mb 3 роки тому +5

      I mean usually you do look down at the homeless as your eye level is higher than them, usually seated, while you are walking by.... so I'm gonna go refund my Target CD of this album 30 years later.

  • @AndrewWright1973
    @AndrewWright1973 4 роки тому +127

    This makes me sincerely want you to do a Trainwreckords for Genesis - "Calling All Stations"

    • @EmoBearRights
      @EmoBearRights 4 роки тому +7

      I don't mind Calling All Stations.

    • @AndrewWright1973
      @AndrewWright1973 4 роки тому +34

      @@EmoBearRights Mind it or not, it stands out as the last ever Genesis album, which sounds very little like any Genesis album that came before it. And it tanked on the charts as well as sales. It's kind-of a perfect candidate for a Trainwreckords episode.

    • @Cheepchipsable
      @Cheepchipsable 3 роки тому +3

      @@AndrewWright1973 Perhaps they got tired of doing the same stuff?

    • @seffor
      @seffor 3 роки тому +6

      @@Cheepchipsable it sounds so different because it was made without phil collins

    • @Engineer_Who
      @Engineer_Who 3 роки тому +15

      @@seffor It's not _just_ that. Mike Rutherford and Tony Banks were two-thirds of the Genesis trio that blasted through the '80s with hit after hit, and they're both on CAS. I think they were just too tired to make anything good anymore. Also, losing the iconic vocalist who helped make their songs accessible to wide audiences didn't help.
      That said, the title track and the album version of "Congo" both slap.

  • @GasmaskAvenger
    @GasmaskAvenger 3 роки тому +59

    R.I.P. Eddie Van Halen
    Great video, still

  • @thehopeofeden597
    @thehopeofeden597 5 років тому +515

    Todd. There's this thing called sleep. You've interrupted me from it.
    For this, I thank you.

    • @NimhLabs
      @NimhLabs 5 років тому +10

      I misread that as "sheep"... and had a completely different notion of what was happening until I reread it.

    • @gabriel77196
      @gabriel77196 5 років тому +2

      Awsamazing Eden 4am where I live lol

    • @KhayJayArt
      @KhayJayArt 5 років тому +2

      Awsamazing Eden you apparently don't have to work a 10 he shift -_-

    • @Tonbot74
      @Tonbot74 5 років тому +3

      Gotta post early so you don't wake up the copyright bots.

  • @Champiness
    @Champiness 5 років тому +400

    Time for me to learn literally anything about Van Halen

    • @pauljohnson7548
      @pauljohnson7548 5 років тому +35

      Just listen to "1984." That will give you an idea of what they're all about. Catchy cock rock with lots of attitude and really elaborate guitar work. They had earlier stuff that was arguably better, but that was the album that really made them explode in popularity.

    • @fury5500
      @fury5500 5 років тому +14

      Same, i only know them by name.

    • @camzoman
      @camzoman 5 років тому +12

      Oh good it's not just me.

    • @DoveAlexa
      @DoveAlexa 5 років тому +14

      I know them but do not like them. Something about the singing style just screams 'please tell me I'm cool please please please I'm trying so hard to be cool!'

    • @sdsign4229
      @sdsign4229 5 років тому +15

      Champiness Me: "HAHA! Of course I know Van Halen! They're the guys that Marty McFly used to scare his dad and trick him into thinking that he's Darth Vader from the planet Vulcan. Yup, I know all about Van Halen!"

  • @TMC1982Part2
    @TMC1982Part2 Рік тому +70

    After watching Todd's most recent Trainwreckords video on Mötley Crüe's Generation Swine, I noticed that one of the commenters wrote this:
    *The two massive ‘80’s hair metal bands who released career-ender albums around this time, both Van Halen and Mötley Crüe had similar problems, got similar results, yet the exact opposite problem in terms of the lead singer. Van Halen had a new lead singer who’d never performed with the band before (Gary Cherone), and Mötley Crüe got their original singer back after a long absence. And yet…
    *Both were hair metal bands trying to change their sound to fit with the modern times. Instead, they sounded like neither their original selves nor any other band of the time. And there are some times (like Without You and Find Myself) where the songs sound like two or three songs duct-taped together.
    *The vocal parts in the songs were clearly written for the previous singer (Sammy Hagar for Halen and John Corabi for Crüe), yet the new singer couldn’t adjust to that singing style and makes the project sound worse by comparison.
    *Any attempts at trend-chasing or changing certain things comes off as transparent or ridiculously corny. You have Crüe doing a Marilyn Manson knockoff song and video Tommy Lee singing a dedication song to his son that makes With Arms Wide Open sound dignified by comparison, and Halen making dentist puns and [INSERT]-Man lines in one song.
    *They had producers who clearly weren’t up to making this kind of album (one of the touring musicians for Crüe and a TV theme composer for Halen)
    *And both albums end on a cheesy piano ballad.
    ua-cam.com/video/IeoPMjdFJjQ/v-deo.html&lc=UgxfTC0ByW3VmmFk_rZ4AaABAg

  • @Mario_Angel_Medina
    @Mario_Angel_Medina 2 роки тому +73

    Like Adam Tod Brown once said: "Sammy Hagar didn't make Van Halen awful, Eddie Van Halen made Van Halen awful"

  • @crescentfreshbret
    @crescentfreshbret 5 років тому +216

    It’s telling that Van Halen’s first post-Hagar album was terrible and Sammy Hagar’s first post-Van Halen album, Marching to Mars, is one of the best things he’s ever done.

    • @MrBreeze18
      @MrBreeze18 4 роки тому +19

      Balance was a pretty horrible album, and I don't blame Gary or Sammy for any of it. VH was on a death spriral.

    • @rushguy1
      @rushguy1 2 роки тому +6

      The title track to Marching To Mars may be Sammy’s best solo song. Once you hear that riff, it’s in your head forever.

  • @connordoyle460
    @connordoyle460 5 років тому +242

    "Triangle Man Hates Particle Man./They have a fight, Triangle Wins"- Jesus Christ Todd, I love you! This made my night.

    • @hjalfi
      @hjalfi 4 роки тому +2

      Degraded man, Van Halen man.

    • @steveschutte4990
      @steveschutte4990 4 роки тому +7

      Flood by They Might Be Giants is a great album. And never forget, it's Istanbul NOT Constantinople.

  • @davidbrown4540
    @davidbrown4540 Рік тому +23

    The thing that's so endlessly fascinating about VH3 is that it basically destroyed EVH's confidence. Think about it -- this was his last original music project. "A Different Kind of Truth" was largely old demos that we re-worked. (and the original stuff was no great shakes) The criticism of this album just may have crippled him for the rest of his life.

  • @EduFirenze
    @EduFirenze 3 роки тому +124

    Sammy is a guitar player and songwriter, he couldn't play like Eddie but could definitely help put a song together.

    • @joelsmith5938
      @joelsmith5938 9 місяців тому +5

      Plus you get the neat dynamic of having a rhythm guitarist or even a twin-guitar attack back in the '80s. Definitely made for a very different sound for Van Halen. Different isn't always bad!

  • @oceandark3044
    @oceandark3044 5 років тому +500

    ... So, full disclosure, I mix sound. Live, not recording, mind. I'm essentially a live audio engineer.
    I had never heard of this album. The other Trainwreckords albums have been very interesting, and this was.... also interesting.
    ....
    Every time music from this album ended up running through my headphones, I physically cringed. The mix on this album is really making me angry. Like, really angry...

    • @redherronrecords
      @redherronrecords 4 роки тому +20

      Holy fuck though right? Amazing... ly bad.

    • @TheSaltySeaman
      @TheSaltySeaman 4 роки тому +50

      It’s one of the most shit mixes I’ve ever heard.

    • @arturhours
      @arturhours 4 роки тому +17

      +Veian Demontrond What do you think of the mixing on The Clash’s Cut The Crap?

    • @Dill_Pickle1997
      @Dill_Pickle1997 4 роки тому +16

      Quick question, how can you tell if someone is playing bass? Cause I can’t tell if Michael was playing at all on the other albums before this

    • @littlekingtrashmouth9219
      @littlekingtrashmouth9219 4 роки тому +1

      Dill Pickled
      He’s barely on OU812

  • @SarahElisabethJoyal
    @SarahElisabethJoyal 5 років тому +121

    Fun fact: Mike Post's first credit, around age 19, was the demo tape for the two sisters who would later go on to form The Murmaids (no, that's not a typo, and yes, they would make an excellent installment of OHW).
    Also, he won a Grammy at age 23 for "Classical Gas", a 1968 instrumental which is much better than that title makes it sound.

    • @edplaysbass7003
      @edplaysbass7003 3 роки тому +8

      Wasn't "Classical Gas" performed by comedian Mason Williams?

    • @SarahElisabethJoyal
      @SarahElisabethJoyal 3 роки тому +15

      @@edplaysbass7003 indeed it was! Mike was the producer.
      Never knew Mason was a comedian, that's interesting!

    • @edplaysbass7003
      @edplaysbass7003 3 роки тому +8

      @@SarahElisabethJoyal yeah. He was briefly head writer on SNL in 1980. Before that, he wrote for The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour and helped Steve Martin's career get started (this is according to Wikipedia)

    • @SarahElisabethJoyal
      @SarahElisabethJoyal 3 роки тому +3

      @@edplaysbass7003 thanks for the info!

    • @s33k100
      @s33k100 2 роки тому +16

      Now do Classical Gas!

  • @sweesbees
    @sweesbees 4 роки тому +150

    7:17 oh yeah it’s called yandere simulator
    EDIT: oh wait game implies “finished product” lmao

    • @twistedwizard9100
      @twistedwizard9100 3 роки тому +1

      I don't think Yandere Simulator has an upgrade system for guns

    • @patrickracer43
      @patrickracer43 3 роки тому +5

      @@twistedwizard9100 yet

    • @tafua_a
      @tafua_a Місяць тому

      @@patrickracer43 When it does, it will be implemented in the most sub-optimal way you can think of.

  • @Glassandcandy
    @Glassandcandy 2 місяці тому +8

    The fact that “gay man- looking for another man” is an actual lyric and not in fact a cumtown style bit making fun of the song is the greatest thing I’ve ever heard

  • @JadeCryptOfWonders
    @JadeCryptOfWonders 5 років тому +335

    Van Halen III is so terrible, Todd can't bring himself to play anything from that album, and opts for Ain't Talking Bout Love over the credits.

    • @orlock20
      @orlock20 5 років тому +12

      That's because if Todd played anything from Van Halen, it would sound like he was just bashing keys and you would be writing to ask why Todd was just bashing keys at the end of the video.

    • @SlavomirG
      @SlavomirG 5 років тому +4

      Todd talks pure nonsense. Without You is a very good song. Also Cherone at the time already had better vocal ability than ageing Roth or Hagar. However the rest of the band was way past their prime at that point and couldn't deliver a string of hit singles (as I would agree Without You is not on the same level as their greatest hits). It was not enough to make a comeback in the late 90s. Both too old school and not enough pop-rock-commercial-radio friendly like Aerosmith/Kravitz at the time

    • @rc.8324
      @rc.8324 5 років тому +7

      @@SlavomirG you obviously have NO clue whatsoever

    • @SlavomirG
      @SlavomirG 5 років тому +5

      @@rc.8324 so many arguments that you presented :D

    • @rklewis2
      @rklewis2 5 років тому +5

      Not quite.
      I personally think that this album is highly underrated, and better than people give it credit for.
      Hard rock bands don't release singles, so I don't know where you were going with that.

  • @shkeni
    @shkeni 5 років тому +112

    I did a double take when you mentioned Mike Post. THAT Mike Post?? 80s TV music Mike Post?? Yes, yes it was.

    • @Musicradio77Network
      @Musicradio77Network 5 років тому +8

      xelena He is the guy who did TV theme songs like “The Greatest American Hero” which was a big hit in 1981, “Hill Street Blues” also an instrumental hit, “Rockford Files” also, a hit record, and a few others. I remember “Hawaii Five-O” first was a hit by the Ventures, and then became a TV theme. “Welcome Back Kotter”, also a hit record by John Sebastian of the Lovin Spoonful, and “Love and Marriage” by Frank Sinatra, also became a TV theme from “Married With Children”. That’s considered as a TV theme. Take an old Sinatra song from the 50’s, and used it as a TV theme from the 80’s.

    • @shkeni
      @shkeni 5 років тому +4

      Yes... which is why I did a double take. I was well aware of who he was xD I have his "Television Theme Songs" record.

    • @bfish89ryuhayabusa
      @bfish89ryuhayabusa 5 років тому +4

      Same here. I thought, "Wait, MIKE POST produced this?!" Post was much better at hooks and melodies than anything on this album.

    • @richardbogartburke4978
      @richardbogartburke4978 5 років тому +1

      Mike Post..Richard Nixon's good buddy.

  • @TheLowBrassDude
    @TheLowBrassDude 3 роки тому +44

    Rest in Peace Eddie.

  • @kevinbirge2130
    @kevinbirge2130 Рік тому +17

    Ed was not a songwriter. He wrote cool stuff on guitar. The lead singer’s job was to take the bits, arrange them into songs, and add lyrics. Roth and Hagar both confirm the method.

  • @SeanStrife
    @SeanStrife 5 років тому +239

    ...is it just me or does that acoustic piano ballad sound like Eddie Van Halen trying to sound like Pink Floyd? ...and failing miserably.

    • @thromboid
      @thromboid 4 роки тому +15

      This is EXACTLY what it sounds like.

    • @tylerhackner9731
      @tylerhackner9731 4 роки тому +22

      Yeah another commenter said this but it sounds like and is failing to be Roger Waters. Eddie, this ain’t The Wall.

    • @Thomasmemoryscentral
      @Thomasmemoryscentral 4 роки тому +2

      @@tylerhackner9731 would that be The Happy Spaceman? He reviewed this album a few years before Todd and mentioned the failing to emulate Roger Waters voice thing

    • @TheMadwomen
      @TheMadwomen 4 роки тому +6

      It sounds just like "nobody home".
      But awful.

    • @Roger8176
      @Roger8176 4 роки тому +7

      Eddie himself at the time said he sounded like Roger Waters.

  • @danrebeiz4598
    @danrebeiz4598 4 роки тому +48

    “Filmed on ravioli”... oh my face hurts

  • @JHXC
    @JHXC 3 роки тому +19

    The random Particle Man crossover cracked me up so much

  • @lespauldisciple3349
    @lespauldisciple3349 3 роки тому +75

    Just listened to this album for the first time this week.
    Remembering Eddie, I listened to the whole VH catalog in order.
    After the crap pile that was 'Balance' this isn't really awful, it just isn't what consider to be Van Halen.
    Full Disclosure: I remember my older brother coming home with the debut album by this new band called Van Halen.
    He said "listen to this" and put on 'Eruption'. HOLY SH!T. Then we sat and listened to the whole album. I can't believe that was 42 years ago. I was 13 or 14...
    VH 1 is still one of the most incredible displays of guitar virtuosity I've ever heard.
    RIP Eddie.

  • @thediscostu4127
    @thediscostu4127 5 років тому +65

    Law and Order, A-Team, Quantum Leap, and Hill Street Blues theme songs. Those might be four of the greatest TV theme songs ever.

    • @johnkirby8939
      @johnkirby8939 5 років тому +5

      The Disco Stu are they awesome t.v. themes? Absolutely. No question.
      Do they rock? Uhmmm, no.

    • @Musicradio77Network
      @Musicradio77Network 5 років тому +5

      And don't forget "Soul Train", it has its theme song, using MFSB's "TSOP" as a good example and it qualified as a theme song.

    • @MrBreeze18
      @MrBreeze18 4 роки тому +2

      Renegade.

  • @waffletoast215
    @waffletoast215 5 років тому +81

    the fact that Todd referenced Sonic Unleashed for a second made me way happier than it should've

  • @thekidfromiowa
    @thekidfromiowa 3 роки тому +31

    I just watched this last night so the sad news is just surreal.

  • @seaofcleverness
    @seaofcleverness 11 місяців тому +8

    Mike Post was the producer for the band Halyx, a sci-fi rock band that played at Disneyland with a bass playing wookie and a synth playing robot. They played a season at Disneyland,but their album never was made and they broke up before they really recorded anything. Defunctland has a documentary about them i recommend if you want to learn more.

  • @levyticus2760
    @levyticus2760 5 років тому +44

    You know how Guitar Hero World Tour introduced the music creation studio feature? And if you had no musical talent you would just aimlessly play notes and strum, with time signatures and keys changing at random in the hope that it would sound good?
    That’s what Without You sounds like. One of the greatest rock bands of all time dropped a lead single that sounds like it was made by me in Guitar Hero in 2008

  • @dn22pkkdd476
    @dn22pkkdd476 5 років тому +13

    13:00 "which raises the question, why didn't they just lower the songs?" A question asked by every Iron Maiden fan when they found out that the band refused to lower the songs for Blaze Bayley, despite his vocal range being way deeper than Bruce Dickinson, him having to near blow his voice out just to sing the old Maiden songs for every show, and the fact that the band had lowered some songs for Dickenson on live shows before.

  • @Francisco-fw5fe
    @Francisco-fw5fe 2 роки тому +16

    I feel like Eddie was like Axl Rose in a way, they were both super egotistical but were kept in check by their equaly as firery bandmates, but once those bandmates were out and they got full control over the band It all went to shit

  • @tobiasvilainnewman3569
    @tobiasvilainnewman3569 3 роки тому +45

    “How Many Say I” sounds like the world’s worst Roger Waters song.

  • @hunterdavis3003
    @hunterdavis3003 5 років тому +152

    Did anybody see Van Halen on that late night show a couple of years ago when David Lee Roth smashed his nose with his mic? Was supposed to be their big comeback and they had to interrupt their set because David was bleeding everywhere.

    • @Fireglo
      @Fireglo 5 років тому +18

      How did that not make it their big comeback? They re-did the song straight after.

    • @Fireglo
      @Fireglo 5 років тому +15

      That's bullshit all 4 Hagar albums went number 1 on the billboard 200 so they must have been doing something right.

    • @ManOutofTime913
      @ManOutofTime913 5 років тому +13

      For Van Halen that practically is a comeback.

    • @gabefolco1888
      @gabefolco1888 5 років тому +1

      Hunter Davis I lost my shit laughing

    • @DDS029
      @DDS029 5 років тому

      Wait, glam AND over produced? Are you sure you didn't realize which one was which. Roth, as a person, was glam and over produced even before he sang a note. White suits with Hawaiian shirts, and white fedoras. A karate kicking, screaming like a school girl, egomaniac?

  • @Darkulametal19
    @Darkulametal19 5 років тому +69

    For some reason that last song sounds a little like "Nobody Home" by Pink Floyd, but without the good lyrics.

  • @tegantalks9612
    @tegantalks9612 2 роки тому +24

    You doing Trainwrecords has made me so thankful for streaming. Because at least now if an artist releases an album I can listen to it and not be pissed off that I’m out $20 of the album turns out to be garbage and if there’s one or 2 good songs I can just add it to my playlist.

  • @SailorMaxie
    @SailorMaxie 4 роки тому +29

    The "Once" video looks like it recorded off a computer monitor with a PXL-2000.

  • @bananajoe404
    @bananajoe404 5 років тому +251

    st. anger when

    • @phlog_dog7336
      @phlog_dog7336 5 років тому +40

      St. Anger didn’t really end Metallica’s career.

    • @garvintron
      @garvintron 5 років тому +29

      phlog_dog neither did Van Halen III

    • @bananajoe404
      @bananajoe404 5 років тому +18

      phlog_dog it sucked though

    • @princesstamika
      @princesstamika 5 років тому

      Risk? I didn't hate it but a lot of other people did.

    • @Hammerhead547
      @Hammerhead547 5 років тому +12

      As a fan of both Metallica and Megadeth I would say that Megadeth's The World Needs A Hero was worse than St Anger by leaps and bounds.
      St Anger was the sound of a band that really needed to take a few years off in crisis, if they'd taken some time away and then not rushed through its production to meet a label deadline and had the time to mix the album properly it would have been leagues better as has been proven by the many fan remixes you can find on youtube.
      TWNAH was the sound of a band leader just not trying or caring anymore, dave and megadeth had lost their direction after Risk's commercial failure which also coincided with their classic lineup self destructing, the only bright spot in that era of the band was their live album Rude Awakening.

  • @xr4ti548
    @xr4ti548 5 років тому +42

    After listening to this album back in the day, I actually felt like the guy on the cover of VHIII.

    • @jonesy2111
      @jonesy2111 4 роки тому +5

      Best comment on here

  • @louisduarte8763
    @louisduarte8763 Рік тому +16

    12:08 They stood for what every rock band truly stands for: making lots of money.

  • @dynaboyjl.4220
    @dynaboyjl.4220 4 роки тому +26

    Cool to see a reference to Nimrod-era Green Day (and Marcy Playground!) in a music retrospective. This is your best series.

  • @princesstamika
    @princesstamika 5 років тому +86

    Glad you mentioned Living Color. Most music historians ignore them and Bad Bones for some reason.....
    VHIII= mad libs, the album.

    • @AlexGreat321
      @AlexGreat321 5 років тому +26

      Do you mean Bad Brains? But yeah Living Colour rule.

    • @simongunkel7457
      @simongunkel7457 5 років тому +15

      I'm not sure who would ignore Bad Brains - most people would have them as the originators of at least DC hardcore, if not hardcore in toto. But yea, living color doesn't get mentioned enough. The same goes for Helmet, which probably did as much to bring a new sense of groove to heavy music as Pantera, still Pantera get most of the credit there.

    •  5 років тому +4

      Simone Gunkel Helmet > Pantera.

    • @princesstamika
      @princesstamika 5 років тому

      i loved that too.

    • @princesstamika
      @princesstamika 5 років тому +4

      lol yes. i was thinking about the song "Bonin' in the Boneyard" by Fishbone (because I hardly ever see them mentioned) and they kinda took over my brain.

  • @nathanmcclellan8078
    @nathanmcclellan8078 4 роки тому +43

    Loved first incarnation of VH. Thought Van Hagar was okay. Loved Extreme too...I must confess, I felt more sorry for Gary Cherone than the Van Halen bothers that VH3 didn't work.

    • @theoneandonlymichaelmccormick
      @theoneandonlymichaelmccormick Рік тому +11

      Yeah, he was a proven hit-maker who was offered the opportunity to work with rock and roll royalty.
      What he got was turned into a pawn of the greater ego struggle that colored the band’s entire history, shoved to the sidelines when it came to making the music, but shoved to the forefront when it came to singing it.
      And after it all the rest of the band get to live on as rock and roll legends, and he gets to be known as the guy who killed Van Halen.
      Poor guy.

  • @Strix24000
    @Strix24000 3 роки тому +42

    RIP EDDIE VAN HALEN
    1/26/1955 - 10/6/2020
    Legends are never forgotten...

  • @pruneface83
    @pruneface83 4 роки тому +35

    I listened to this album for about three months straight when it was first released. It was the first new music (not including Best of) from my favourite band in three years and it cost me fifteen quid. So I was determined to like it. I guess From Afar was ok. Grim times. Wish I'd accepted defeat sooner.