As a Falco main when I switch over to Fox I play just as bad if not worse than what was shown in the fox clip. I naturally dont adapt to fox even in Smash 4 where Falco is lower tier I tend to do better, just not a matching style for me.
The Melee gods are going to retire someday. They are really positive about finding out new talent to be replaced by so the scene doesn't dies. Melee is the biggest longest living competitive fighting game and they love it with all their heart.
Once shiz perfects both general falco and general melee tech ... he will learn a lot more situations and bait options. Like after his l cancels or in general he doesn't dash back when he l cancels too close to shield. After he laser shield with closed spacing he always throws out an attack after when if anyone noticed that ... its counter able with a wave dash out of shield back. I respect shiz a lot I feel like I'm always on his stream and hes actually helped my summer grind development individually. I hope he finds out what hes missing because hes been too close to top level for so long but doesnt truly know his struggles although he might think he does. Once he gets it tho he will be gr8 O and his laser spacing is great (he has a situational call out for every grounded and jump option his opponent has but the way he holds neutral with aerials and his aerial spacing could use work at times also ... just my analyzing. But he has patients which can get him far. I think I get impatient with avoidance and end up over aggressing which leads to 90 percent of most my opponents conversions. So tht alone is my struggle area
Bronson Layton Paranoid sounds pessimistic and sad. I would never want to call myself paranoid, sadness, fearful, etc. Theshizwiz sounds like my favorite type of cheese dipping - Cheez Wiz. Plus, you're a wizard and awesome and super cool, and should never be a person who is paranoid, afraid of something. Be brave, empowering, and confident. You're already super awesome and have so many good qualities about u. Maybe call urself Outgoing or Courageous, rather than Paranoid. It would be more fitting for u. :) You may not feel like you have a quality like that, but it is better than identifying with a negative trait that would serve to keep you down. Remember your awesomeness forever. Never forget that.
Hey man, so happy to see you play again. I was in middle school in '06 when I started learning about Melee's competitive side, and I've spent many, many hours of my life watching vids of yours. From You Got Shiz'd On and Shades of Falco to your matches with M2K, SilentSpectre, Falcomist (still one of the best sets of all time imo), PPMD, etc... I'm really glad you're still playing the game. I know you went down some dark roads in life but I hope you've been turning things around. I'll gladly netplay with you sometime; just working on finding a job first right now. Take care man.
Bronson Layton it’s too late to go by another name now man You could win 5 majors in a row under the paranoid name and everyone is still going to know you as shiz, even new people. Embrace it.
The actual recording of these games on stream is here with *WAY* less lag in HQ www.twitch.tv/videos/117740078 Starts at 1:12:55, enjoy. Do please upvote it when you use the link so that others know it's not evil / actually has the sauce.
I gotta admit, Hbox being humble and admiring the skill of the Falco speaks a lot of his character. It's refreshing to see a top player be so forward with the compliments with someone whom he didn't initially know to be playing against. Good shit, Juan. And good shit to ShizWiz. You're a fucking beast and need to come out of retirement.
Drewbii you can look it up to find the exact details but I'm pretty sure he assaulted a clerk at some gas station and threatened to kill him if I remember correctly
glad hungrybox has respect and good attitude in a situation like this where he faces randoms, i hate it when people john when they lose to legitimately good opponents
13:54 - 13:58 Platform-cancelled phantasm + lasers into F-smash, huh... And consistently done at that, that was fun to watch, I can't blame Hbox for that happy reaction, even on the receiving end lol
Yvandres QR all these comments surprised at this falco "playstyle" but back in 06, before "nuetral" was a thing, this is how falcos looked even moreso, at the time, the prevailing wisdom was falco beats puff 60-40. so shiz just has that old school mindset and isn't afraid of puff at all (the scariest puff back in the day was KillaOR and he wasnt the super threat that hbox is)
Imagine how it feels to think there's a new player you don't know that's just waiting to make a splash in the scene only to eventually figure out the scene's still stagnant. I hope PP comes back.
I'm pretty sure what he means if I get it properly is that how do you think hbox felt when he thought that he found a new unknown player who was really really good, only to find out it was someone already in the scene. That's what I think he means.
Dashziwiz easily one of the best players to ever touch Falco. He innovated Falco to new levels right after Bombsoldier. He's the reason so many people play Falco the way they do today and people do not even realize how much he pushed that character. He did for Falco what M2K and Ken did for Marth
It's really disappointing how the falco neutral game has seemed to regress in recent years. The clean laser based neutral completely dropped off when PPMD left. And now shiz is somewhat back and playing his classic style and it's being proven that the new style just throws the neutral away for no good reason.
People wanting to ban him from tournaments, because of his violent history... Like I would get it if you were playing a physical sport, but it's a video game. No one should be banned for a violent past, especially after how many years it has been.
I saw this live. I was like "What the fuck is going on right now?" and "Who IS this guy?" along with everyone else in chat. Then the slow, realization of what was happening.....good shit!
Nope, he didn't get it together. He tweeted "Pain Killers" Wednesday, and got arrested yesterday for drug possession and probation violation. Trial is in a couple of weeks.
This video is why I think plup is one of if that the best melee player out there. When plup played shiz he picked up puff and destroyed him. Plup can just play everyone it's insane.
Shiz actually still plays? I hadn't seen him play after ROM 1. I just didn't bother to look for any matches with him since I thought he straight-up retired.
DaShizWiz plays random puff on netplay. Finds out it's Hungrybox
Just wanted to remind you that you got 450 fucking likes, thank me later
just want to remind you that you are 3/4 of the way to 1000 likes, dont thank me
lmfao i was literally just about to write this comment #alternativefacts
1000th like ;)
No, this is hungrybox. Google "dashizwiz ssbm" tu see what he looks like, there's a couple pictures
"Your falco is the hardest I've played since PPMD" RIP Westballz
Brendan Hines "I never had this much trouble with Westballz"
I mean isn't Westballz almost always playing Fox against Hbox Puff?
Westballz doesnt laser
Addy Daddy
Alex H doesn't mean too much if he has ADHD, otherwise :/. I can't play smash (or really do anything requiring focus) without it
How can a man's Fox look so fucking scrubby in this matchup and then have the cleanest looking Falco since PPMD
_ Maza _ people who don't main Fox but play Falco do exist
_ Maza _ They're different characters. Playing a Fox like Falco or vice versa will only get you so far.
cause he existed before PPMD.
Hbox makes everyones fox look like a scrub
As a Falco main when I switch over to Fox I play just as bad if not worse than what was shown in the fox clip. I naturally dont adapt to fox even in Smash 4 where Falco is lower tier I tend to do better, just not a matching style for me.
I love how Hbox is impressed and not mad about being beaten by a "random"
Lucky Gonzalez new talent is great for the scene
andrew dacunto well he didn't know it was shiz that's why he was impressed
The Melee gods are going to retire someday. They are really positive about finding out new talent to be replaced by so the scene doesn't dies. Melee is the biggest longest living competitive fighting game and they love it with all their heart.
Shiz has been around and well known for forever. Not even close to a random
Street Fighter 2 is still going.
It's like all the basic falco tech but it's so perfect
thats like the best description you can give of shiz, it's all the basic stuff but executed exactly how its supposed to look
great fundamentals
Phantom Madman dont forget them clips
Once shiz perfects both general falco and general melee tech ... he will learn a lot more situations and bait options. Like after his l cancels or in general he doesn't dash back when he l cancels too close to shield. After he laser shield with closed spacing he always throws out an attack after when if anyone noticed that ... its counter able with a wave dash out of shield back.
I respect shiz a lot I feel like I'm always on his stream and hes actually helped my summer grind development individually. I hope he finds out what hes missing because hes been too close to top level for so long but doesnt truly know his struggles although he might think he does. Once he gets it tho he will be gr8
O and his laser spacing is great (he has a situational call out for every grounded and jump option his opponent has but the way he holds neutral with aerials and his aerial spacing could use work at times also ... just my analyzing. But he has patients which can get him far. I think I get impatient with avoidance and end up over aggressing which leads to 90 percent of most my opponents conversions. So tht alone is my struggle area
Glad to see people enjoyed the video, old name is DaShizWiz.
New name is Paranoid,
Add me, Lets Netplay
Bronson Layton Paranoid sounds pessimistic and sad. I would never want to call myself paranoid, sadness, fearful, etc. Theshizwiz sounds like my favorite type of cheese dipping - Cheez Wiz.
Plus, you're a wizard and awesome and super cool, and should never be a person who is paranoid, afraid of something. Be brave, empowering, and confident. You're already super awesome and have so many good qualities about u.
Maybe call urself Outgoing or Courageous, rather than Paranoid.
It would be more fitting for u. :)
You may not feel like you have a quality like that, but it is better than identifying with a negative trait that would serve to keep you down. Remember your awesomeness forever. Never forget that.
Hey man, so happy to see you play again. I was in middle school in '06 when I started learning about Melee's competitive side, and I've spent many, many hours of my life watching vids of yours. From You Got Shiz'd On and Shades of Falco to your matches with M2K, SilentSpectre, Falcomist (still one of the best sets of all time imo), PPMD, etc... I'm really glad you're still playing the game. I know you went down some dark roads in life but I hope you've been turning things around. I'll gladly netplay with you sometime; just working on finding a job first right now. Take care man.
paranoid sounds ill, stay woke
Bronson Layton it’s too late to go by another name now man
You could win 5 majors in a row under the paranoid name and everyone is still going to know you as shiz, even new people. Embrace it.
Had so much respect for that falco. Now i know its DaShizWiz, i feel yucky. OMGGUYSCLIPDAT
The actual recording of these games on stream is here with *WAY* less lag in HQ
www.twitch.tv/videos/117740078
Starts at 1:12:55, enjoy. Do please upvote it when you use the link so that others know it's not evil / actually has the sauce.
Does not work anymore...
24:00 hbox realises
The-godamn-best 19:00 he begins to suspect
thanks
I find it amazing how you can identify a player from his/her playstyle its just beautiful.
I hate it when people are a few seconds off with their time. 23:57
TrekWarlord thanks
I gotta admit, Hbox being humble and admiring the skill of the Falco speaks a lot of his character. It's refreshing to see a top player be so forward with the compliments with someone whom he didn't initially know to be playing against. Good shit, Juan. And good shit to ShizWiz. You're a fucking beast and need to come out of retirement.
HBox at 30:40 - "Who goes for that?"
Melee - "Faaaallcooooo!"
there's still so much to take away from his play his lasers are so nasty omg
Halcyonacoustic I'm still waiting for day[9] on the scar and toph show.
so many laser f-smashes how did he Not know it was shiz lmao
zeezy didnt know shiz would change his name, didnt think he would go under a fake name either
this is some good melee, I just nod my head when I see this level of play
yuss
Zeta Craft is these something wrong with you
ZeldaGamer08 I'm about to pk fire>dthrow>fair>fair>fair>back throw you mate don't challenge me, boyo
I've got sm4sh hoes disease, help me
okey
-hah get it-
Please come back Shiz. We need more falcos.
We don't need more falcos but...... he is really good
Brandtchicken GD We need more high level Falcos. There's a ton of new Falcos, but not many in the top 100.
23:12 "Amazing! ...No this aint Porkchops." ROFL
Came for the surprise, stayed for the killer Lombardi
Did not know Shiz could play like that. holy shit.
Unfortunately a lot of the community is trying to blacklist him.. not that it's undeserved but I think everyone should get a second chance
the fuck? for what?
Domestic violence case against him a while back
the fuck? can anyone confirm that?
Drewbii you can look it up to find the exact details but I'm pretty sure he assaulted a clerk at some gas station and threatened to kill him if I remember correctly
glad hungrybox has respect and good attitude in a situation like this where he faces randoms, i hate it when people john when they lose to legitimately good opponents
Like ltg
Can we all just sit down and talk for a minute about that waveshine shine turnaround grab???????????????? 11:34
Patoismastah I read this when I was at 11:30 lol
Patoismastah d
Patoismastah o
That's great work you're doing for the Audubon Society, finding really rare birds, Hungrybox!
"I'll take the trade.." **PSHEEEEEEEWWNNNNN**
"Ha! I have to trade with this guy. Amazing.."
The most anime of dialogues. Holy shit.
13:54 - 13:58
Platform-cancelled phantasm + lasers into F-smash, huh...
And consistently done at that, that was fun to watch, I can't blame Hbox for that happy reaction, even on the receiving end lol
Yvandres QR all these comments surprised at this falco "playstyle" but back in 06, before "nuetral" was a thing, this is how falcos looked
even moreso, at the time, the prevailing wisdom was falco beats puff 60-40. so shiz just has that old school mindset and isn't afraid of puff at all (the scariest puff back in the day was KillaOR and he wasnt the super threat that hbox is)
omgwtfrofltomato lol no, no other Falco utilizes lasers like Shiz does. Shiz's laser placement is top notch.
I know this is old, but that was one of the easier things he did.
one thing I appreciate about HBox is his music taste, Arcade Fire, Real Estate, Mac DeMarco... good stuff.
Thought the same thing for a while, especially seeing Broken Social Scene start playing on this video.
to top it off he listens to STRFKR extremely underrated group of good blokes
It makes his stream much more watchable than some of the others. Seems like a really chill guy.
Yeah I've noticed that about his stream too, HBox has real good music taste.
Arcade fire should shorten their name because they’re straight up fire amirite
YOOO ITS BE ME GAMING, THE OG MELEE CONTENT GUY
B)
5:16 the Sub noises fit perfectly with Hbox edgeguarding the Falco
falco and jigglypuff go hard
Can we take a moment to appreciate hbox's beautiful music selection
ParadoX TCG dude ikr
Imagine how it feels to think there's a new player you don't know that's just waiting to make a splash in the scene only to eventually figure out the scene's still stagnant. I hope PP comes back.
ThirtyfourEC What? i agree with the pp thing but what?
I'm pretty sure what he means if I get it properly is that how do you think hbox felt when he thought that he found a new unknown player who was really really good, only to find out it was someone already in the scene. That's what I think he means.
Soon enough we will see Falcos emerging
lol such a sad way to view this vid
PPMD and DaShizWiz ditto... UltraKreygasm!
Dashziwiz easily one of the best players to ever touch Falco. He innovated Falco to new levels right after Bombsoldier. He's the reason so many people play Falco the way they do today and people do not even realize how much he pushed that character. He did for Falco what M2K and Ken did for Marth
dashizwiz double lasered from the ledge and got away with it? that's not safe is it? he must have a big ol ....
Falcomaster
B rye YES ITS FALCOMASTER
I thought that was boom
It's so funny that Zhu and Shiz were once the most technical, crazy Falco's.
Now theyre considered to have the most solid fundamentals.
Mango and Westballz take notes
I'm glad HBox knows to still respect the old school kings of smash.
This is the best thing I've seen in awhile, Shiz was an anomaly of Falco back in the day
At 8:07 it sounds timed to the music
Of course have you not heard of the script kappa
It's perfect
It's really disappointing how the falco neutral game has seemed to regress in recent years. The clean laser based neutral completely dropped off when PPMD left. And now shiz is somewhat back and playing his classic style and it's being proven that the new style just throws the neutral away for no good reason.
People wanting to ban him from tournaments, because of his violent history... Like I would get it if you were playing a physical sport, but it's a video game. No one should be banned for a violent past, especially after how many years it has been.
What did he do?
I saw this live. I was like "What the fuck is going on right now?" and "Who IS this guy?" along with everyone else in chat. Then the slow, realization of what was happening.....good shit!
'hah i have to trade with this guy, amazing..'
rofl
For those that wanna know he finds out at roughly 22:00
Gam W 23:56*
Shiz was definitely the best Falco at one point (long time ago to be fair), glad he's still showing that he can keep up with the top players.
I'm pretty sure that the real highlight of this video is smash with mac demarco
studying da fuk outta dis
DA SHIA WIA
10:31 We got a new 5th god
This is the dude that went to jail right?
yee
lol
I’ve always wondered about the sentencing of Jman and Shiz
5:16 Perfect sync with the Hoo-haa
Loved everything about watching this set - music was a nice touch too. Good stuff to you Hbox and Shiz
"this is like a top 20 falco" is like the worst compliment ever haha
I felt sligggghtly offended when i heard that lol
I think he meant top 20 in general, not just top 20 falcos
i hope so lol
There's not even 20 top falcos lol
I think he meant falco in the top 20
"This guy is fucking really good" HBOX 2017
Smiling the whole time watching this. I wish I was a fraction as good as these guys, but the grind is fucking real.
When I'm lonely, I remember this video and remember others have it worse.
I love his gradual realization that this guy is actually insanely good
Vintage Shiz talking about working out right after Hbox asks him
its cool that these guys are so good and so knowledgeable that HBox could immediately tell this guy is a pro and was like how do I not know him
Yo this was so sick. One of the most satisfying intense sets of matches i've ever watched
Just so much fun watching Hbox and Shiz play! Hope Shiz is able to pick his life back up someday..
Hector Gonzalez He isn't in jail
I went and purchased a new notepad before re-watching in 0.5 speed
damn, this was magic. i love melee
it was once said that dashizwiz died so melee could live(referencing the set against m2k)
This video has been in my recommended for the last 2 months straight and I saw it on release. Wtf
I'm surprised Shiz hasn't commented on this video yet lol
Ricky Ricardo That's probably because he's in jail lmao
butters 413 how do you know
Ricky Ricardo it's a public thing...
butters 413 Link?
*comment*
Nope, he didn't get it together. He tweeted "Pain Killers" Wednesday, and got arrested yesterday for drug possession and probation violation. Trial is in a couple of weeks.
Esa Laitinen for someone on painkillers he is a god!
Esa Laitinen Who? What?
DaShizWiz aka Bronson Layton.
Esa Laitinen How do you know if he got arrested? I only saw the pain killers tweet
I'm in jail playing Netplay
shield drop lazer? thats fuckin shiz
Why did he reveal himself so quick? The enigma is always best.
This video is why I think plup is one of if that the best melee player out there. When plup played shiz he picked up puff and destroyed him. Plup can just play everyone it's insane.
has hbox posted his playlist anywhere?
Good shit Shiz. Always loved watching your falco :)
Damn he's on that westballz sandstorm shit
If Shiz starts going to stuff then he could easily become top 60 or even 50 by the end of 2017.
Keeps talking about PPMD, makes me yearn for the pee pee doctor. COME BACK SENPAI PPMD!
23:54 you're welcome
hbox: "who bird dis is?"
Man he constantly got out from the follow ups after the up throws.
Westballz & Shizz Top 20 maybe even Top 10! Falco is back in town!
What isn't shiz in jail for attacking a cashier in the parking lot
Nathanael Welford-Small he went on probation
Nathanael Welford-Small Why does that even matter
Cuz if he was in jail he wouldn't be on netplay
Nathanael Welford-Small long time ago.
Yes, thanks for making me search for this specific thing in a 33 minute video
Dennis Wassing Don't get caught up in the lying game.
Must be disheartening to put your heart and soul into a game only to lose to a "random" jiggly online.
Dude this falco is nuts. Why doesn't ShizWiz play in more tournaments?
He's never had any trouble at tournaments.
URGOD 420 Oh fuck off with that shit lmao
thanks
Bro, get back into the melee scene! We need your falco to show how it's done.
+URGOD 420 shut the fuck up
Shiz actually still plays? I hadn't seen him play after ROM 1. I just didn't bother to look for any matches with him since I thought he straight-up retired.
The lasers and the fsmashes are soooo nasty omg
Didn't WestBallz take a game off of HungryBox at Don't Park On The Grass?
Honestly such a beautiful falco...
I love the music hbox is playing
This video is what got me into mac demarco
man that was some good melee right there. Shiz come back in full force please.
Get this man a sponsor
You have good taste in music hbox
best thing to ever happen on hbox stream.
*"Yo somebody clip that"*
this is a therapeutic video
His falco sorta reminds me of bombsoldiers
holy fuck shiz leveled up
So... DaShizWiz for next summit?
dude viceroy is my favorite song!
Hbox sounds so different here
So why is Hungrybox just grabbing with no problem but no one grabs him back?
can someone explain how he play random people on netplay. i tjougjt u needed the code
Christopher Lee www.smashladder.com/
someday falco will save melee
That was just enjoyable to watch.