Daniel. Thank you so much for all this content! Your "shortening the shot clock" concept, as you check in the dark to your opponent, is absolutely genius! Thank you again!
Another great example of why you're a genius. The check in the dark on shot clock tournaments insight and all the hand and range analysis is mesmerizing.
Love Daniels energy and have for quite a few years. And I’m tickled to see he still at the top of his game and more importantly seems to be enjoying as much as ever.
Want to say that you’re the reason that I started play poker. Stumbled on HSP in early/mid 2000, and I got stucked and it was an eye opener. You and Sam Farha was my favourite players, and I try to copy your game, and was emediatly a winning player. But now I just play some tournaments from time to time. I have not catched up to the modern style an with GTO. I dont have the time or the passion now a days. But like to watch this kind of videos, HSP, and mostly your vlogs at the WSOP. That is Top notch, and I looking forward towards that every year. Thank you for inspire People. Regards from 🇸🇪
I think the smart limps were the secret to your success throughout your early career. As you began to move towards hyper aggressive GTO, your variance increased. Whether the math agrees or not, limping like this provides more opportunities for confusing the opponents, and that is where the real money is made. When you act lightning fast, it adds to the confusion. And it should be noted that you minimized your losses completely here, and if you had AA, he goes broke. I have never believed in the skill of the GTO robots who raise or fold. Keep on limping wisely and you will win two or three bracelets next year. I think you have come full circle back to a complete game.
@Timmy Ripkey he said limp 'wisely' not always. It's not a hard comment to understand there, Tim. By adding different strategies and folds to your game, you become less predictable therefore harder to beat.
@@joshjohnson9824 I think more of what gives away the original replier is a fish is the “I’ve never believed in the skill of the GTO robots who raise or fold”
Daniel, thanks so much for sharing everything you do! You've definitely kindled my interest in poker and now I feel like I can never get enough of your videos.
Thanks for breaking down that hand. I have ran exact same spots before and feel the exact way you explained it. Saying you will get bluffed in that spot sometimes is okay makes me feel much better about my play as I have felt folding in similar spots is -ev. Poker strategy can go so deep. Love the content and please continue on with it as long as you are able to.
Hi Daniel, I just started learning more about poker strategy. I started with the MIT course, but stumbled upon these videos. I'm really enjoying hearing your thoughts and breakdowns of your gameplay. Thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge with us. I used to watch you back in the day so it's amazing to see how your career has progressed. Cheers to the next 30 years!
I have to ask this even though it’s nothing to do with this video but at 5:11 he makes a comment about 98s not being a limp-raise because it can get you in “other trouble” this is after ive been wondering why cash preflop charts leave out 98s when they’re raising 76 and 65. So my question is, whats the deal with 98s? Why dont the solver or Dnegs like it?
Super curious on limp-raising with 78suited vs 89suited - What problems with the 89 and not the 78? Going up against 10J hands and hitting bad straights or 2-pairs? (4:58)
Funny you mention drawbacks to limping. I remember when a newb limped with AA against Hachem. Hachem saw a flop with like a 3-9. And hit 2 pair on the flop. Hachem raised, dude with AA went all in and got felted. Hachem totally roasted the guy "that's why you're a fish and not a pro". Which surprised me because I thought Hachem was a good guy.
But Daniel, Daniel, you're doing that blinking, squinting again (right from the start of the clip)! How are we supposed to perceive that? Trolling us? Come out clean on this already! Edit: thanks for highlighting old school limping in this series! I appreciate that as there's a lot of psychology to poker. And limping itself actually highlights that (itself)! Edit #2: but Daniel, Daniel, checking the flop, you gave him the opportunity to bet his 2-out ace on turn and to possibly check down river had you called his representing ace on turn! Gosh...
Just because he is limping it does not mean that he has too many junk hands in his limping range, so he is getting the same effect as a min raise on the flop, without over inflating the pot. I like it
The beautiful thing about poker is that it is a giant optimization problem, and you have to think through all the trade-offs of your actions, against the entire domain of hands you have in the impacted positions.
I know its about how you played, but thoughts on Addamo folding AJ pre-flop. Was it the fact that Winter's raise was so big (6X)? Or was it the potential for you to back raise? Not wanting to play a bloated pot out of position? Something else? Would you also fold AJ in the BB in this spot??
Daniel I want to know how to win super aggressive players raising every hand before the flop and will never fold before the flop.The player will even call you each time he or she has a hand on the flop ,never fold a draw even on the turn.
dark checking is a problem when they check back certain board textures with a reliable frequency... but i like the idea of using this to force time bank usage.. but more to consider here
His entire range checks dark, he just explained he'd never have a leading range. It doesn't narrow his limp calling range at all, it's exactly the same as if he doesn't check dark
This is my read on Daniel so far; 1) When his left hand is overactive, he's convincing you he made the right move despite thinking he didn't. 2) When his right hand is overactive, he's confident he made an excellent play 3) When both hands are overactive, he's wishing he'd never started on this discussion 4) When his arms are folded, he's preventing his wife from killing him.
i think i remember you saying that a check in the dark is stupid no matter the situation in one of those cash games with phil helmuth but i think there is a good time for eberything and everyone evolves
Could there be an argument for leading or x/r turn, representing AA AK AQs that might be in the limp range UTG? If villain had these maybe he would raise flop? His range is very A heavy after check back flop, but wouldnt it also mean he holds AJ or worse? Im probably biased because I see his hand but idk, just trying to learn here
I limp from utg plus 2 with kings and 53 big binds .all fold accept small and big blind which goes all in the first with 16 big blinds and the other with 69 big . I call they show pocket JJ and pocket 10s.flop comes 387 turn 10 and river 9 . I lose terrible pain 😔
Daniel I’m planning my vacation around the WSOP mystery bounty tournament in Vegas. When is the schedule coming out? Will there be multiple day ones and what day does day 2 start
Daniel can you make a video where u make a leading range in spots where we suppose to check 100% I think this would confuse the oppoonents and make them guessing
Sorry but there is nobody who can tell me that Phil Ivey is better than him (not even you Daniel)! Nobody thinks about the game as hard and personal as this guy! 😂 Love to you my man!❤🎉
Does checking in the dark become an additional aspect you need to balance? Is balancing not an issue because you'd do it with any hand played this way preflop? Or is any inference simply negated by your opponent getting no information(relative to the board) from your check? I completely understand deciding to check all flops in some situations from early position. I'm curious to hear opinions on check in the dark vs predetermined fast checking post flop.
checking in the dark gives them free information that you are never donk leading. Even if you never donk lead, they will never know if you check normally. why give them free information?
What - why 7/8 as a limp re-raise but not 8/9? Why would 8/9 be worse? Is it because when you make straights, you risk picking up the bottom end of a straight, and your opponent is more likely to have the high end, due to their raising range?
65s seems like awful removal vs a limping range … need to unblock all the middling pocket pairs of going to start bluffing turn… 54s would be more reasonable … his most reasonable turn bluff would be hands with removal on Qx and Ax.. KJ JT JT… also KJ should probably x back flop decent bit here to keep in Kx that KJ dominated (KT K9s K8s) so that on K turns they cooler u
Create a dynamic to the……game which has not been studied via solver sims in high stakes? (I assume). Taking it to the streets when they have only been battling in the ring.
I believe the 10s is more of a R/C/F than a L/C/F when you're stacked but yes mixing it up is important. That's why he's been playing so mant years and no one know what he will do.
Just out of curiosity, what do most of y’all do for a living? Do y’all aspire to be a high poker king like him? Or just want to learn more and do this as a side thing?
Is it really GTO to have no leading range? I mean if you have acirtain range a certain board will be better for you than for opponent. Also checking in the dark gives more info than checking on the flop.
@@technofeeling2462 just that none of our range wants to play anything but checking, in plo we certainly do want a leading range at all times, especially when deep. In nlh the in-position betting lead is most often respected. TT here though doesn't want to bet overs, unders, most sets, quads, draws, everything just wants to check call, really, and play turns
Daniel. Thank you so much for all this content!
Your "shortening the shot clock" concept, as you check in the dark to your opponent, is absolutely genius!
Thank you again!
he learnt it from phil helmuth
Right??? Why waste time for no reason that benefits your opponent!
@@dnegspoker chess mindset... Putting those hobbies to work
Another great example of why you're a genius. The check in the dark on shot clock tournaments insight and all the hand and range analysis is mesmerizing.
Thank you!
Love Daniels energy and have for quite a few years. And I’m tickled to see he still at the top of his game and more importantly seems to be enjoying as much as ever.
Want to say that you’re the reason that I started play poker. Stumbled on HSP in early/mid 2000, and I got stucked and it was an eye opener. You and Sam Farha was my favourite players, and I try to copy your game, and was emediatly a winning player. But now I just play some tournaments from time to time. I have not catched up to the modern style an with GTO. I dont have the time or the passion now a days. But like to watch this kind of videos, HSP, and mostly your vlogs at the WSOP. That is Top notch, and I looking forward towards that every year.
Thank you for inspire People.
Regards from 🇸🇪
Do you talk a lot
@@Stormmud yes, do you?!
I think the smart limps were the secret to your success throughout your early career. As you began to move towards hyper aggressive GTO, your variance increased. Whether the math agrees or not, limping like this provides more opportunities for confusing the opponents, and that is where the real money is made. When you act lightning fast, it adds to the confusion. And it should be noted that you minimized your losses completely here, and if you had AA, he goes broke. I have never believed in the skill of the GTO robots who raise or fold. Keep on limping wisely and you will win two or three bracelets next year. I think you have come full circle back to a complete game.
Lmao keep limping will win you bracelets?
@@timmyripkey2030 you dint know ? 😂 limp and hope for the best
@@matthieumartelct 11 fish liked his comment
@Timmy Ripkey he said limp 'wisely' not always. It's not a hard comment to understand there, Tim. By adding different strategies and folds to your game, you become less predictable therefore harder to beat.
@@joshjohnson9824 I think more of what gives away the original replier is a fish is the “I’ve never believed in the skill of the GTO robots who raise or fold”
Daniel, thanks so much for sharing everything you do! You've definitely kindled my interest in poker and now I feel like I can never get enough of your videos.
Glad to hear it!
real entertaining to see you back in more action. Thanks for sharing
Thanks for breaking down that hand. I have ran exact same spots before and feel the exact way you explained it. Saying you will get bluffed in that spot sometimes is okay makes me feel much better about my play as I have felt folding in similar spots is -ev. Poker strategy can go so deep. Love the content and please continue on with it as long as you are able to.
Yeah, for sure. If you never fold the best hand then you just aren't trying hard enough to make good decisions
6:19 - 6:24 is a perfect impression of more than 10 people locally that I play against on a regular basis....
Been super excited to see you post your hand analysis
Hi Daniel, I just started learning more about poker strategy. I started with the MIT course, but stumbled upon these videos. I'm really enjoying hearing your thoughts and breakdowns of your gameplay. Thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge with us. I used to watch you back in the day so it's amazing to see how your career has progressed. Cheers to the next 30 years!
Great video Daniel; very insightful. Checking in the dark segment was great.
I have to ask this even though it’s nothing to do with this video but at 5:11 he makes a comment about 98s not being a limp-raise because it can get you in “other trouble” this is after ive been wondering why cash preflop charts leave out 98s when they’re raising 76 and 65. So my question is, whats the deal with 98s? Why dont the solver or Dnegs like it?
when 98 makes a straight, its dominated by higher straights very often (imagine JQT or JQTK board with 98)
No one loves to hear Daniels voice more than Daniel.
and yet here you are, watching his videos...
Daniel may have started a new limp range revolution.....watch it unfold! - These young genius will be studying these spots now lol
well done Daniel it gives me insight to hands i never think of
Another great video Daniel! Check in the dark makes a ton of sense. Well played hand to save chips. Thanks 👍
Super curious on limp-raising with 78suited vs 89suited - What problems with the 89 and not the 78?
Going up against 10J hands and hitting bad straights or 2-pairs?
(4:58)
Another great vid!! Nice run on PGT. Yesterday's stream was fun to watch!! Keep grinding man!! See ya in the next one!!
great vids daniel ! thank you for breaking this down for us and congratulations
You're the best in the business Daniel. Thank you!
Thanks for the content Daniel!
Funny you mention drawbacks to limping. I remember when a newb limped with AA against Hachem. Hachem saw a flop with like a 3-9. And hit 2 pair on the flop. Hachem raised, dude with AA went all in and got felted. Hachem totally roasted the guy "that's why you're a fish and not a pro". Which surprised me because I thought Hachem was a good guy.
Thanks Daniel ! Poker king 👑
I love the impression @ 6:20 hahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Very smart way of rhought on the "check quick to not guve your Op extra time to think"
Love the rationale for checking dark in a time bank game. Great insight. Cheers
lmfao sean is hilarious🤣awesome vid as always legend
But Daniel, Daniel, you're doing that blinking, squinting again (right from the start of the clip)! How are we supposed to perceive that?
Trolling us?
Come out clean on this already!
Edit: thanks for highlighting old school limping in this series! I appreciate that as there's a lot of psychology to poker. And limping itself actually highlights that (itself)!
Edit #2: but Daniel, Daniel, checking the flop, you gave him the opportunity to bet his 2-out ace on turn and to possibly check down river had you called his representing ace on turn! Gosh...
Great, disciplined lay down.
First time I hear Daniel say anything that make sense
Just because he is limping it does not mean that he has too many junk hands in his limping range, so he is getting the same effect as a min raise on the flop, without over inflating the pot. I like it
The beautiful thing about poker is that it is a giant optimization problem, and you have to think through all the trade-offs of your actions, against the entire domain of hands you have in the impacted positions.
Love the check in the dark. But also love the bet in the dark holding aces. Seems to work better than sitting there after a flop and betting
I know its about how you played, but thoughts on Addamo folding AJ pre-flop. Was it the fact that Winter's raise was so big (6X)? Or was it the potential for you to back raise? Not wanting to play a bloated pot out of position? Something else? Would you also fold AJ in the BB in this spot??
Feeling pretty good about myself as I often check in the dark
Another interesting video. Thanks Daniel!
Daniel I want to know how to win super aggressive players raising every hand before the flop and will never fold before the flop.The player will even call you each time he or she has a hand on the flop ,never fold a draw even on the turn.
Is that really rainbow though? 🤨 5:47
Always funny stuff. Thanks for entertaining me...
Listen to your wife, of course!
I wish Phil Hellmuth had channel like this. Good job man very interesting videos
Daniel's chess experience showing with the time management skills.
dark checking is a problem when they check back certain board textures with a reliable frequency... but i like the idea of using this to force time bank usage.. but more to consider here
The mind of a genius player. Thank you
How serious was the discussion about the hand movement on the fold? Too bad this was not discussed on the breakdown.
I've found that limping can help with aggressive players. Take it at the end if your read is right. I limped mostly in a tourney online and cashed. 😆
Dan the man back in the action!
I can’t wait to read the book that you write once you retire!
I’m thinking a check in the dark narrows your limp call range dramatically. Making it pretty easy to exploit?
His entire range checks dark, he just explained he'd never have a leading range. It doesn't narrow his limp calling range at all, it's exactly the same as if he doesn't check dark
This is my read on Daniel so far;
1) When his left hand is overactive, he's convincing you he made the right move despite thinking he didn't.
2) When his right hand is overactive, he's confident he made an excellent play
3) When both hands are overactive, he's wishing he'd never started on this discussion
4) When his arms are folded, he's preventing his wife from killing him.
You should play hold'em in Red Dead Redemption 2. I've always wondered how accurate it is.
i think i remember you saying that a check in the dark is stupid no matter the situation in one of those cash games with phil helmuth but i think there is a good time for eberything and everyone evolves
These videos are the biggest “VICTORY LAP, I have ever seen lol.
hi daniel! your videos are great plz be more active here create more plsss some of us need to learn from someone like kid poker
Could there be an argument for leading or x/r turn, representing AA AK AQs that might be in the limp range UTG? If villain had these maybe he would raise flop? His range is very A heavy after check back flop, but wouldnt it also mean he holds AJ or worse? Im probably biased because I see his hand but idk, just trying to learn here
I limp from utg plus 2 with kings and 53 big binds .all fold accept small and big blind which goes all in the first with 16 big blinds and the other with 69 big . I call they show pocket JJ and pocket 10s.flop comes 387 turn 10 and river 9 . I lose terrible pain 😔
Daniel I’m planning my vacation around the WSOP mystery bounty tournament in Vegas. When is the schedule coming out? Will there be multiple day ones and what day does day 2 start
Daniel can you make a video where u make a leading range in spots where we suppose to check 100% I think this would confuse the oppoonents and make them guessing
i swear thanks to this guy i've heard the name "ali" more times in poker commentary than almost any other words 😂
Sorry but there is nobody who can tell me that Phil Ivey is better than him (not even you Daniel)!
Nobody thinks about the game as hard and personal as this guy! 😂 Love to you my man!❤🎉
great vlog brother
DNegs content be like: I'ma give you guys the sauce but I can't tell you the secret ingredient because my wife would kill me.
Does checking in the dark become an additional aspect you need to balance?
Is balancing not an issue because you'd do it with any hand played this way preflop?
Or is any inference simply negated by your opponent getting no information(relative to the board) from your check?
I completely understand deciding to check all flops in some situations from early position. I'm curious to hear opinions on check in the dark vs predetermined fast checking post flop.
checking in the dark gives them free information that you are never donk leading. Even if you never donk lead, they will never know if you check normally. why give them free information?
What about betting in the dark on the flop?
I really enjoyed your podcast with Lex Fridman! I highly recommend ya'll check out that podcast if you enjoy DNegs being a genius for 2 hours
What - why 7/8 as a limp re-raise but not 8/9? Why would 8/9 be worse? Is it because when you make straights, you risk picking up the bottom end of a straight, and your opponent is more likely to have the high end, due to their raising range?
You just gave yourself the right answer!
10 J Q gives AK the ducks nuts. 89 can get you in big trouble
I like the play. Onortodox and tricky
Would you never Donk bet a flop like T/A/3 or T/A/K? Best Regards and thank you for your videos ✌🏽
You know that dude hit Ace after checking the flop and betting the turn
Daniel I feel like you’re trying to trick me with your limp raise now lol
Dude. You’re Awesome
Another example of why middle pairs are tough to play, especially out of position.
Hi Daniel where did you get Your wig it looks really good😮
When you check in the dark suddenly you're in position. =p
Finally something that ain’t none of our business 😅
@Danielnegreanu. Just stop it
We've seen enough of your hands to know your ranges, Daniel.
i think Daniels face was telling hes not happy with the flop. great concept though thanks
Cash Daniel outside
My love for poker was about a 7 out of ten then I found d negs and now its 10
Haha, youre a bit of a legend ay
why would a 5, 6 suited be a hand that Winter would play?
Can’t believe Daniel didn’t rock a team Canada jersey to celebrate the World Juniors Gold, missed opportunity 🇨🇦🥇
65s seems like awful removal vs a limping range … need to unblock all the middling pocket pairs of going to start bluffing turn… 54s would be more reasonable … his most reasonable turn bluff would be hands with removal on Qx and Ax.. KJ JT JT… also KJ should probably x back flop decent bit here to keep in Kx that KJ dominated (KT K9s K8s) so that on K turns they cooler u
Create a dynamic to the……game which has not been studied via solver sims in high stakes? (I assume). Taking it to the streets when they have only been battling in the ring.
It is my business
Top D!
I believe the 10s is more of a R/C/F than a L/C/F when you're stacked but yes mixing it up is important. That's why he's been playing so mant years and no one know what he will do.
Thanks so much for the content Daniel maybe you can also cover a bit of the pokergo 50k no-limit you just played it was a really interesting one
What about doing a min click raise with ultra premium cards, AA, rather than a limp call, to induce a 3bet, that you can then limp call?
I dont think TT should be part of an early position limp range.
Bro even if you give out your secrets most of us are not talented enough to even utilize them right and the ones that are already know it.
buddy im LMAO..... u played the hand exactly how PH would play it.....😜😜😜
I wonder what he thinks of cold calling and making people play more multiway pots to throw other people off their game
Are you canadian or roumanian?cause you have roumanian name and you inspire all of us roumanians
Just out of curiosity, what do most of y’all do for a living? Do y’all aspire to be a high poker king like him? Or just want to learn more and do this as a side thing?
More as a side thing, but want to be the best I can be with a reasonable amount of reading up.
Is it really GTO to have no leading range? I mean if you have acirtain range a certain board will be better for you than for opponent. Also checking in the dark gives more info than checking on the flop.
The only information it gives is that we don't have a leading range on any flop whilst out of position in a limp raise call hand vs button.
@@harstar12345 why? i dont play nlhe. In plo you have leading ranges. I wonder why in nlhe not
@@technofeeling2462 just that none of our range wants to play anything but checking, in plo we certainly do want a leading range at all times, especially when deep. In nlh the in-position betting lead is most often respected. TT here though doesn't want to bet overs, unders, most sets, quads, draws, everything just wants to check call, really, and play turns
Adamo folding AJo is rather impressive.
Check in the dark, the ultimate chess pre-move to save time and pressure your opponent on the clock!
Every time I hear my wife won’t let me tell you that I am both happy for you and also experience fomo
When you retire one day will you tell us all your secrets please?