Could Utah Leave The Big 12 To Join The ACC? New Report On ACC Expansion | ACC Revenue Hits Record
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- Опубліковано 26 тра 2024
- Could the ACC actually expand with a new member in the near future? New reports from Dick Weiss of the New York Daily News have linked the Utah Utes to the ACC. Utah is about to join the Big 12 but reportedly could be enticed by the ACC’s ESPN network affiliation. Other rumored candidates for the conference are USF, San Diego State and Oregon State. The ACC just had a record revenue increase this past season, but the gap is still wide behind the SEC and Big Ten.
Hosts Alex Donno and Kenton Gibbs discuss possible expansion candidates and analyze a report showing that former conference commissioner John Swofford, who retired two years ago, is STILL making almost as much money from the ACC as current president Jim Phillips. Congratulations to the Duke Blue Devils, who beat Florida State 16-4 to claim the ACC Baseball championship.
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Utah fan here. We just left a sinking ship, we’re not interested in hopping on another one.
You are ON a sinking ship. It is going to get sunk by the same Entities that sunk you last ship, in the SAME WAY for the SAME reasons.
1:09 My paternal grandfather fought in World War II too. My maternal grandfather and paternal uncle fought in the Korea conflict. My paternal uncle and Dad fought Vietnam! Happy Memorial Day!
If Cal and Stanford can join the ACC then It’s not a stretch for Utah to move to ACC as well. The only deterrant I see is the $.
ACC makes more than the B12. In 2023, the ACC made $706M to tht B12s 510M. The avg is ACC $45M to the B12s 42M. The ACC gets a 4% increase annually with their deal. The B12s deal is stagnant with no annual increases.
@@shallojallohwon’t that change when fsu and Clemson get out?
@@coachcole7463yes
Why would anyone join the ACC with so many teams wanting to leave.
Big 12 will be standing when the ACC is gone.
@christophertaylor1575 | who wants to be Associated with the b12 other than G5 teams and the worst p5 teams? All the teams that the B12 picked up were g5 teams n horrible p5 teams..CU Zona ASU were all historically awful teams
The ACC needs to do whatever to make Notre Dame full-time member. Then renegotiate a a new TV deal. Discussions of anything else or just a waste of time.
Not happening. ND will STAY but only in the way they are yb NOW.
There is no Need for a Nes TV Deal. If you knew the REAL DETAILS you would agree.
Current TV Deal has the Look-In Clause for increasing the Payout.
@@user-kn7ry8iz6x
Agreed it is not happening. Doesn’t mean that it’s not the only hope the ACC has to remain a powerful conference as currently configured.
Bottom line is, the ACC under Swafford violated terms of the contract, by not having a vote to extend ESPN‘s time to negotiate a contract. This intern helped family members of Swafford at Raycom. The ACC is still paying Swafford after he has left the conference.
So a case can be made to show that the ACC breached its contract, knowing that they would get personal gain from a contract with Raycom.
That is not what Clemson and Florida State are leading with, but it is what they will finish with if not allowed to leave earlier.
The league is kaput without an injection of funds to bring them up to par with the Big Ten and SEC .
@@robertstwocents NO. They did not NEED to take a VOTE. That is BS.
They are trying to say that because ESPN made NO CHANGES to the ACC Contract during the 1st Look-In that a VOTE was needed. That is BS.
There was NOT VOTE NEEDED because there were NO CHANGES to the 20 year Contract.
The ACC has their next Look-In in 2 years and it looks like some changes will take place.
THAT will require a VOTE. But NO CHANGE does not require a VOTE.
FSU is trying to make that case... but it has NO CASE. If it did it would not have REFILED 2 or 3 times already and the Court Case would be OVER and the ACC would not have SAID recently that it REFUSES to SETTLE is FSU had a LEGITIMATE CASE.
Plus the ACC is about to get a HUGE CASH INCREASE of around $20 Millon per school NEXT YEAR.
But FSU SHOULD KNOW THIS unless every person they have in Leadership is a CHILD. So nothing is going to keep FSU in the ACC.
Clemson and UNC... MAYBE. But still unlikely.
ND isn't joining a sinking ship
@@Mike-sp7zv What sinking ship? ACC is going to THRIVE and ND is going to REMAIN a part of it just like it is TODAY. Still Independent in Football.
Don't see ESPN leaving the Acc. I believe the payout will go up for the Acc.
lol Utah fan here… no we aren’t interested in ACC
Yet!
@@jmath1978Clemson and fsu leaving won't change their minds
The Utah rumor was debunked. Utah already chose the B12 over the ACC. The ACC invited them last year. Also, if Utah left before they’re officially B12 in August, they’d have to forfeit their entire ‘24/25 athletic season. ACC is unstable.
Utah would be a great add. 😁
Putting all the BS aside Utah is a pretty good add on. ACC should add them and USF.
Honestly, I think the ACC should hold off on USF and go after Arizona and Arizona State.
@@Patrick-sg7cm EXACTLY. As long as Miami stays USF is NOT VALUABLE for the ACC.
ACC needs NEW MARKETS and BRANDS. Those Markets must be in NEW STATES.
Arizona, Kansas, Colorado, Oklahoma St, West Vriginia, Utah, Cincinnati.
The ACC $$$ Increae is due to the COMCAST DEAL which increase ACC Network Payouts.
Payouts that get SPLIT by ESPN and the ACC. COMCAST DEAL needs NEW STATES.
COMCAST Deal also bundles ACC Network w B1G Network and SEC Network.
And ACC Network pays MORE per Subscriber IF the ACC has a Footprint in the STATE that Subscriber lives in.
THEREFORE:
Adding Stanford gets us USC and UCLA fans for Subscribers.
Adding SMU gets us Texas and TX A&M fans for Subscribers.
Adding Cincinnati gets us Ohio St fans for Subscribers.
Plus any ACC, SEC or B1G Fan that subscribes living in any of those States.
But there is also TV CONTRACT VALUE to work on.
These Large TV Markets are out there for the taking:
Phoenix, Denver, Salt Lake City, Kansas City, Cincinnati
And BRANDS... Utah Oklahoma St and West Virgina dare EYES in Football above anyone but Louisville and Notre Dame who will remain in the ACC. And Colorado is big right now.
Kansas and Arinzona draw EYES in Basketball and would increase TV Contract Value
For the ACC to MOVE UP in $$$ it has to stay together (minus the FEW it cannot keep) and GRAB the TOP of the Big 12.
For 1 that means ESPN could DROP the Big 12 or pay it next to nothing going forward and that opens up $$$ for the ACC and 2 taking their best Brands brings the EYES to the ACC and away from the Big 12.
THIS IS THE PLAN and HAS BEEN THE PLAN (in general) for 9 YEARS.
The acc isn't getting any Big12 schools
@@Mike-sp7zv I know but speculation is free
@@noles9998 If the ACC was to grab anyone in the ACC, it would most likely be Cincinnati and West Virginia. The ACC already has Pit, Virginia Tech, and Virginia. Plus Cincinnati would fit in the basketball feel of the ACC
Why would anyone but a G5 program join a dying conference like the ACC?
No shot…. I guess these clowns wanted to put together a rig ram while they are taking a vacation day
I wouldn’t suggest a G5 program join the ACC either. Grass isn’t always greener on the other side.
You people are talking like the Big 12 is a place where teams want to be lol😂😂😂😂
Uh because it was NEVER DYING and because they have seen the REAL Financial Data not the BS you have been lied to until you beieve it. DUH.
Ask San Diego state about trying to join the pac12
I read somewhere that, contractually, until Utah is formally in the B12, the B12 GOR and exit fee does not yet apply. Maybe Utah will bail?
I understood that Utah could leave whenever they want. Supposedly they're expecting a B1G invite in the coming years.
When you think of Big 10 Ohio state and Michigan stands out. SEC=Bama Georgia, ACC= Clemson, FSU. This nonsense that the ACC doesn’t need those two teams is ridiculous
No one seems to realize this "Utah to ACC" rumor was a troll by an Oregon State fan. There never anything to it. And why would anyone leave a stable situation for less money in the ACC and a huge headache when it breaks apart in a few years? Somewhere that Oregon State fan is laughing right now at all the attention his troll is getting.
Because no team in the ACC has beaten UTAH save for UNC. Utah has like 75 losses just to Colorado, Arizona and Sparky , The ACC is an easier path to the automatic playoff spot once FSU leaves, plus UTAH would be highly interested in opening a SOUTHEAST pipeline like they did in CALIFORNIA. Sometimes, there are more important things than money. ACC won't lose autonomy unless it dips below 14 teams by July 2, I suspect that won't happen.
Happy Memorial Day!!! We appreciate your sacrifice
TCU jumped to The Big12 without playing a down in The Big East. Utah can do it.
Where is the big east? Where will the acc be when Clmeson, FSU, UNC, and Miami leave?
Look at the San Diego State budget at 105M per year and cash flow positive. San Diego county is 3.5M people
Love San Diego the city but hardly anyone shows up to an Aztec football game and that’s sad
Kenton.. great episode. This is the Kenton we have grown to love. Give credit where ccredit is due.
UCF would be good to get
😂😂😂”some eSECpn reporter reported that the SEC isn’t talking to anyone & the ACC is totally fine sooo its clearly true”😂😂
…yet another classic Kenton quote🤦🏻♂️😂
Nobody from the Big 12 would join the ACC
😂😂😂
That's a lie I believe you mean is the other way around!😂😂
@jmath1978 hahaha your kidding right schools are lining up to leave the ACC.. FSU and Clemson aren't the only ones your foolish if you think that's the case.
Guarantee WVU and Cinci would leave the B12 for ACC in a heartbeat if offered an invite
@@benvargas3727 hahaha that's a joke
Oddly, I kind of dig it.
It makes sense. The ACC can create a western pod with SMU, Utah, Cal, and Stanford.
But what kind of ratings and tv market will those four teams bring. HA
Plus the Cougs and Beavs . UTAH is a bit different than normal universities, they don't just recruit players, they recruit entire families and set them up with luxury and an American dream not otherwise achieved easily, plus they have a lot of space to do that providing a relatively crime free environment that is attractive to the parents. OPENing up a southeastern US pipeline to go with their California pipeline, would be highly attractive to their administration.
Try Oregon State and Washington state
Kenton, I'm not sure why you are dissing Oregon State. On the field, they are far better than 2 of the schools that you like. As far as TV ratings, again, they are far better than those 2 schools. I'm not sure what Alex is referring to about their budget, unless it was the recent massive improvements to Reser.
What I find so ironic about John "UNC" Swofford, is that UNC, after being the favorite child of the ACC for 40 years, now is complaining. What their boy isn't still favoring them enough now that he's retired?
Donno may be confused with Cal or Wazzu. The latter of which is really in the red. Oregon State is upgrading their football stadium too same with SD State, Memphis and USF I believe.
Yes, the shift in college football is definitely coming from the ACC falling apart
Nobody is joining a sinking ship, It’s all about the next deal. Without FSU, Clemson, and Miami, the TV numbers are gonna go way down and if Lou, Pit, and a few others join the B12, their TV deal will go up.
Not so much Miami. Clemson and FSU yes
Your clueless 🙈
@@Navyking12 “You’re”
@@zoe_zucciThe B10 wants the Florida market. Pitt is joining west Virginia and UNC wants out
Both the President and AD of Utah have gone on the record saying there is no possible merit in this rumor.
At to the FSU merchandise, it is totally believable that they sold out early. Why? FSU baseball has a substantial fan base who travels. Years ago, when the ACC held it tournament in Louisville, FSU had the largest crowds outside of Louisville. Also, these fans travel BEFORE their team plays, and typically purchase tournament merchandise BEFORE the tournament starts. People who attend these tournaments know this. I do think that the vendor miscalculated the demand for FSU merchandise, but that's on the vendor, not the ACC.
Honestly thats all I hear is conferences getting torn apart!?!?!?!? I think there's nothing but trolling everywhere!!! I don't think anyone knows what is really going on and I wouldn't be surprised at all if this is true with the running Utes??? To be honest I would rather the ACC survives and strengthens with the Utes and keeps the conference competition going??? I'M SO SICK OF HEARING ABOUT THE BIG10 AND SEC I COULD PUKE!!!!!
Good show.
Seems odd to dismiss the impact of FSU/Clemson departing, knowing that UNC wants out, and that Virginia is also rumored to be a valuable property.
Why would Utah gamble on a very uncertain future with the ACC’s premium brands by committing to the league’s dead weight and a costly geography?
Also, after these defections, if you’re Miami, Louisville, or Va Tech, when conversations start up around plugging the holes with USF and Oregon State, I think you look at the Big 12 as a landing spot of your own.
lol, the nonsense coming from ACC land is starting to sound a lot like the Pac 12 propaganda.
Except this nonsesne is TRUE. Some of it. These guys are STILL in the dark on lots of stuff
Hey Kenton..is the Baconator/Olive Garden bet still on? 😁
According to Lockedon Utes and their comments section, the Utes are not buying the idea of going to the ACC. You might want to try a cross-over with JT at LockedOn Utes to discuss this matter.
It’s not buyers remorse because we didn’t ever want the big12. The only reason we are there right now is because there was no other choice with everyone leaving, as it stands right now the ACC is more respectable than the big12, all I know is the big 10 invite will probably come sometime in the future and we’ll be back with the pac schools again.
Well said
UTAH has recently added a new Multimedia Rights Partner. The ACC has had recent dealings with media consulting firms as well. They are probably each just doing due diligence.
Utah definitely had reservations about the Big 12's 99 years membership and are believed to have negotiated an exemption.
Utah also did have a relationship with the Pac-12's California schools that did greatly improve their profile academically and market wise.
99 year membership, that is insane. Do you know if it just Utah has the exemption?
It is known that Colorado accepted the 99 years clause deal while Utah haggled to opt out. Unaware of any other Pac to big-12 adds being opted out.
Of course Coach kyle whittingham made those cryptic ominous statements about the move as well.
@@rx2878 Utah did not haggle out of it....Utah was allowed to look around until they actually signed the contact......the Big 12 would not have added them with any exemption
Time for the ACC to Grab all the Top Revenue schools in the Big XII
Why would a school leave the BIG12 for the ACC with the ACC GOR and the top schools don't want to stay in the ACC as is anyway also the ACC just got left out of the playoff with an undefeated team
@@kirkmoody6109 Because they will see the REAL DAA not the BS you believe thanks to liars and idiots in the internet that you believe like a gullible child
ACC should grab uconn, Memphis, Army, navy, and Air force
Don't think it makes sense for Utah with the state of the conference. If it was the BIG lets go.
The Big 12's Tier 3 media rights for this last year weren't included in that payout (Think the Longhorn Network.) at the very least, so the Big 12's media payouts likely vary by school and whether they're greater or lesser than the Average ACC school.
ACC fans trying to brag they aren’t last 😂
They ACC is last out of the power conferences the big 12 is!😂😂😂
Big mistake Utah going acc
ACC can pull the TOP of the Big 12... it does not need ANY G5 schools.
These Hosts have NO CLUE how REAL this is and how LOST they are on the aCC's REAL POWER in this game
You can have them. They've already outlived their welcome in the Big12!
SDSU is trash. Or St is a diamond in the ruff. More money would actually elevate them quite a lot.
My sources tell me this is a done deal.
Disappointing clickbait
This is complete false news news and Podcasters are lapping it up 😂. Skip "Baseless" is in the HOF and he pulls stuff out of his azz all day long and twice on Sunday. It is note worthy that Utah is the only one that has a "No exit Fee" until 2025 or 2026 in the current bylaws.
The legal fees are all the more reason to hate on FSU and Clemson for costing the rest of the schools and widening their own and everyone else's gap.
I would hope any ”negotiations” for exit money includes the ACC’s damages due to all these legal fees.
@@foreverorangegirl44 I honestly don't expect any negotiating to happen. The other 2 conferences do not want them now anyways. If there is any negotiation, I expect those two schools to get a small raise at some or all the other school's expense. All this and they will end off much worse off because of the legal expense.
@@foreverorangegirl44That goes both ways but nice try!😂
@@zanymonster like many other broken relationships that go through the wringer of the legal system, the only ones happy in the end are the attorneys.
4:28 The 2026 college expansion shows that ACC is getting paid 17% versus 15%. Also the Big 12 is the only Power 4 conference without a playoff championship. That stat doesn't bode well for future TV revenue with that 2026 look-in built into the 2026 expansion paperwork.
What are you talking about, the Big 12 has a championship game 🙄
@@dougwatchesiowastatehe is saying the Big12 is the only remaining Autonomy Conference that has not won a national championship in football. The other three Autonomy conferences have won at least two national championships in football since 2013/14.
I don’t think that Dick Weiss, who has been removed from being important for years has his pulse on this one as a starter of the rumor. the ACC could’ve had Utah last year alongside Arizona State and Cal and Stanford but Jim Phillips was probably delivering Swafford’s lunch to his house. If Florida State in Clemson let alone anyone else leaves the dollar value doesn’t work and it’s not just about the media right steel which for the AC will go down it’s also about other economic factors.
If the ACC could’ve had them and goofed that up, coupled with the current issues, they seriously need to get rid of Jim Phillips and get their own former entertainment exec for the next commissioner
Watch Utah end up in the Mountain West when they hop around.
Preserving an autonomous conference is still very valuable...just ask former Pac teams not named USC
So please tell me exactly what TV market Utah brings in?😂😂😂 All the big television revenue producers are already in the Big ten or the SEC.
Utah has a larger TV market than Pittsburgh. We are ranked 27th overall
🤯 Is that payout to Swafford a 1-time payment, or is that an ANNUAL payment?!?! If it’s ongoing, then that seems like an employment contract, and with NC being a right-to-work, “no fault firing” state, he should be FIRED as a “retired employee”! What a dirtbag. How can you even enjoy that kind of money knowing you did exactly the OPPOSITE of EARNING it? That’s some full-on foolishness, and whatever current employees signed off on that nonsense should be gone also because this is NOT displaying fiduciary responsibility. 🤬
It is yearly and is growing
@@user-kn7ry8iz6x WHYYYYYYY?
@@foreverorangegirl44 ACC Network Payouts have INCREASED due to the COMCAST DEAL which BUNDLES the ACCN, SECN and B1GN. So now the ACC earns a fee for every subscriber to ALL 3 Networks.
And more is on the way because USC, UCLA, Stanford, Cal, SMU, Texas and Oklahoma fans were (most likely) NOT SUBSCRIBING at all.
Plus the ACC gets 4x the Fee for any subscribers that live in a STATE with an ACC School in it. ACC is now in California and the Top 4 fanbases in that Stateare now part of he Bundle. ACC is now in Texas and 4 large fanbases are now part of the Bundle A&M was last year but NOW they are worth 4x as nuch,
Plus lots of regular old ACC, SEC and B1G fans live in Texas and California... they were subscribing before but NOW they are all worth 4x as much.
PLUS... the HUGE Hidden Story everyone is missing. ACC has been spending $16 Million a year per school to build all of the Infrastructure for the ACC Network (and ESPN has been matching that at around $240 Million per year).
That means the ACC has been EARNING $16 Million MORE per year than it is reporting in Revenue. It is not Revenue because it got SPENT.
The ACC Network Spending ENDS in a few days. But the ACC keeps getting that extra $16 Million that is has been spending WHICH makes that $$$ REVENUE.
So every ACC team will see an additional $16 Million in TV Contract Revenue and they don't even have to DO ANYTHING to get it. Plus the additional $$$ from the ACCN/COMCAST Deal.
ACC is about to hit a HUGE WINDFALL in PROFIT.
And ESPN is about to fall into an extra $240 Million per year it no longer has to spend. ESPN no longer spends $$$ on the B1G as of last year and no longer spends $$$ on the PAC as of NOW.
What 1 thing does the ACC need to make everything work out just fine. More $$$ from ESPN and ESPN will have the $$$ to make it RAIN. And ESPN doesn't have to do ANYTHING to have that $$$ at it's disposal
Same thing Pac 12 said.
Man, WTF?! Looks like the ACC is going to become the conference of 2nd and 3rd tier programs. If I’m programs like Miami, Clemson, FSU, etc. I do bot want to be in this conference any longer. It’s the Big 10, SEC, or bust.
The Acc wasn't a option to chose from at the time Utah joined the Big 12 what are you talking about?
@@jmath1978that is not true or entirely accurate.
I would trade FSU for Utah.
You can't trade something thats already gone! The ACC is a dead conference walking!
😂😂😂DEAL🤝…no take backs & best of luck😂✌🏻
I’ll take it!! Suckaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa 😂😂😂😂😂
Utah is perfect for the acc. No championships and a tier 3 football program
Perfect fit for a mid conference.
I look forward to both your teams being Big 12 members soon!
At that point the BIG 12 is nothing more than a name. BIG 12 fans are have no foresight in their bloodlust to kill conferences. I say this as an ASU alum new to your conference. Out of desperation to stay relevant you guys are giving your conference away to schools that don’t care about it and it’s traditions. You’ve already added 4 group of 5 schools and 4 PAC 12 schools. Once you add some ACC schools then the non original BIG 12 schools will have more voting power then the original hateful 8. Those new schools will control how the conference operates. Old school BIG 12 fans are gonna start to hate it when old PAC 12 and ACC schools are calling the shots in their conference and doing stuff like moving the conference championship and and conference basketball tournament’s from Dallas and Kansas City to places like Vegas, Charlotte and Florida.
Utah is not a big enough to save the ACC.. You lose Fla. State and Clemson, its over!
Oh you mean like the big 12 lost its top 2 football teams and is finished lol😂😂😂
HOW so? ACC still has an automatic Qualifier if it stays over 14 teams....that would be very enticing to a team like UTAH who believes they could go in and win it more times than not. In other words, ACC is the path of least resistance to a playoff spot out of any P4 Conference, plus more money and higher academics that Utah likes.
Utah joining the PAC was the reason USC dipped below .700 win average. If FSU bolts, UTAH will believe they win win the ACC in football even if Clemson stays.
The ACC definitely has a future. I think the conference comes out of all this rosie, but the legal expense is going to be ridiculous in 2024.
True.
Utah to ACC along with Cal and Stanford. What has gone wrong with modern day college football. I don’t know 🤷
Ummm… Big 12 and ACC are very close in payouts AFTER ut/ou left. AFTER FSU/CU leave ACC, Big 12 will have clear advantage. And… Big 12 will reup before ACC. So… next topic?
Aint nobody leaving the big 12 for ACC yall own wives want to leave 😂😂😂😂😂
The ACC and BIG12 are falling behind. Would the top brands of both team up to create a new conference?
yep
They will
Make your list.
Top 16 from the ACC and BIG12.
Who ya got?
More or less that is the last conference in the P3
Utah won't join the ACC as is but...
The top brands left makes for a strong conference.
It will happen because it makes sense for every school lucky enough to get a ticket.
I simply don't understand why Utah is perceived as such a hot commodity. They've lost 5 straight bowl games, and the first time in years the Pac was worth a damn they went 5-4. Kansas, Colorado and both AZ schools are more attractive programs in the B12. Baylor would be above them too if not for their disgusting scandals. Joining the ACC sans FSU & Clemson would be a lateral, costly move. And the first chance Stanford & Cal get to join the B1G they won't spend a second's thought on Utah. If Ute fans weren't so naive and prideful they'd ask themselves why they alone were given such a sweetheart clause by the B12. The answer is obvious to everyone else.
Utah went 5-4 in the strongest year the PAC 12 ever had, while Fielding a team with more than 20 injuries and a 4th string QB.
I don't know if desperation has clouded your thinking, but you guys are out there
For top programs, the ACC will pay more than B12 with their performance based payouts.
Even with the ACC on the brink West Virginia still can’t get interest😂😂
3:00 The Big 12 is holding Utah's check Alex. They're saying don't cash until after Memorial Day. We've all been in those situations.
Nobody except small SunBelt types of teams want to join this mismanaged, imploding conference. And I mean no disrespect to the Sunbelt league. A lot of ACC teams would do well there.
Keaton you are delusional You’re so happy with being a distance 3rd they went up 14% and its still not enough to be competitive with other conferences smh 😂😂😂😂 this is trying to control the narrative only thing is no one is buying it
Nada effect in the two 'prettie$t girl$' in the bar leaving
Acc is better than the big12 idk how people think they jumped us they haven’t won a football title in 20 some years
0 recent nattys. It's Crazy, right? They are even claiming to somehow be better at Basketball than the Everyone, The ACC and Big East's UCONN. but but kempom kenpom etc.
@@rx2878 its not the B12 doing that, the media looks at the stats and they claim theyve been the best bball conference from top to bottom
In 2023 the Acc made over 700 million. The Big 12 made a little over 500 million. The Acc gets a bigger cut of the playoff. It got the most of any conference for March Madness.
Big 12 for 2022-2023 record payouts per school was $44 million putting them in 3rd place. Thats based on the old contract with media payout of 20 M per school, the new payout will increase by over 50% to 31.6 M. Starting in 2025.
Utah fan here. This sounds a lot like PAC 12 media from a year ago
It sounds like Big 12 fans lusting after schools in other conferences because nobody really wants to be in the Big 12. I mean Utah is considered a big fish in the Big 12. Notice that the ACC is NOT interested in adding any original BIG 12 schools? Neither is the SEC or BIG10. The BIG 12 only looks good when somebody else's house burns down. That's why locked on BIG 12 has nothing to say about the BIG 12, it's all about trying to poach other conferences.
The ignorance the Big 12 is making the same money or a little better with their top two brands gone let’s see what the ACC gets when their top two brands leave it’s definitely not gonna be as good as the Big 12
Utah is not going to the ACC. They chose the Big 12 over them for a reason. Plus the Clemson and FSU thing going on doesn’t make it any better
Im sorry but this is ridiculous
You will not make the money that you used to once you lose your top brands
🙄
I'm sorry but Utah would be dumb as hell to join the ACC 😂 at least while there are pending lawsuits.
If they want to, let them go. Utah fans seems to think they are a really big national brand. Their not. They lost their last 5 bowl games. I would take Washington State anytime.
lol
ACC needs Appalachian
😂😂😂acc and their stumpers are hilarious 😂😂😂Gooooo Bluuuuuueeeeee Baby!
Only here to say your copium supply must be running low 😂
Leaving B12 without ever playing a game in it while the ACC is about to have a MASS exodus and legit every team worth a dime to conferences is begging to get out 😂😂😂
*ACC is dead, there’s just a slow heartbeat still. By January, if you still exist, youll be without FSU, Clemson, UNC and NC State or duke.*
Oklahoma St, Baylor, TCU, West Virginia and Cincinnati should join.
West Virginia, yes due to regional rivalries. Oklahoma State, TCU, Baylor, and Cincinnati not so much.
@@Patrick-sg7cm WVU could just stay in the B12 and wait for a potential mass exodus of ACC teams..theyd still get their rivalries in the end
@@Patrick-sg7cmCincinnati would be a great add for the acc
Big12 > Acc football.
Schools like WF, BC, SMU, Syracuse, GT, Duke & CAL would get destroyed in the Big12. Fact is the Big12 has more depth.
Here’s a reality check both hosts know: the “per school” revenue distribution amount is larger for each school in the B12 vs. ACC.
This was clickbait
Acc make more money than the big 12 they also sign another TV contract
Kenton wants USF & SDSU… hahahhaaaa
Big12 is going to add Miami, Louisville, VT, Pitt and others
And then all the former PAC 12 and ACC schools who don’t actually care about the BIG 12 conference and it’s tradition will outnumber the original 8 BIG 12 schools. You will have given your conference away. The incoming schools will have all the voting power they need to control your conference. You guys are gonna love it when former PAC 12 and ACC schools start voting to move BIG 12 Championship games and conference basketball tournaments away from Midwest cities like Dallas and Kansas City to places like Vegas, Charlotte, and Florida.
This shows just how trash the Acc is there trying to get Utah really Utah it’s hilarious to me an I’m so happy to see the Acc bleed out and these guys are trying to convince everyone it’s gonna ok
Maybe is Utah not the ACC trying court the ACC! The Acc will be fine!
@@jmath1978 I guess if fine means becoming a G 5 yep you’re right there right where they belong couldn’t have happened to a better conference
Per Kenton Colorado, BYU, ASU, Texas Tech, Oklahoma St, Kansas, WVU aren’t big brands… but NCST, WF, BC, Syracuse & SMU are.
BYU has more value than all of those and ESPN confirmed that calling them the money shot.
Utah ain't no BIG FISH...HELL I did know they existed until like 5 years ago. I don’t running to my TV to watch UTAH...stop it please!!!!! They just left Mountain West. Please go UTAH...COLORADO IS A BETTER BRAND THAN UTAH...
Coming from a Houston fan that’s hilarious. Utah has been in the p5 for over a decade and won 2 conference championships in that time. Houston is a joke of a football program. Stick to basketball 🤡
And yet NCAA 25 rated them as a tier 1 team for the video game royalty payouts this year js
No Big12 team will join the Acc
That's a lie it's the Acc schools dont want to join the big 12 including CLEMSON and FSU you big 12 guys are super delusional!
Is Kenton on drugs?
Depends what he's talking about particularly!
Once FSU & Clemson leave the Acc is dead
Nobody likes dabo