How to setup Pinn OS on Raspberry Pi 400. SSD Installation.
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- How to setup Pinn OS on Raspberry Pi 400. SSD Installation.
I haven’t tried Pinn OS for a while. It’s working much better now with great USB support.
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My 400 came today. I've been wanting a pi system for a few years. I'm an Amiga fan and when I saw the 400 announced I ordered one. Hopefully you do tonnes of videos and I will follow and learn. Subbed. Thank you.
I just picked up another USB-Sata this one is made by UGreen and has the ASmedia chipset works well
cool, thank you, last time I used Pinn there was no Ubuntu 20 or Twister, now there is time to modify it.
Really great video tutorial, thanks I love your desktop very tidy and clean no wires jumpers connectors the Pi 400 is great for that, I bought 2 of them, I take one up into the loft as I have a setup configured to receive NOAA satellite weather images 24/7, all I need is a VNC enabled Android tablet as a monitor linked to it and the Pi 400 is run of a 3 Amp Power bank (runs for 12 hours on battery) really pleased with the Pi 400 and where we have come now with SSD and other neat solutions to make this device a pleasure to use, still love the PI 4 for designing and programming, I write my own programs in Python
I don't have a spare SSD drive so I set up Pinn OS on a 32GB USB 3.0 thumb drive and installed Twister (posting this from it now), Ubuntu-Mate, and Pi OS 64. Twister is just as snappy as I've come to expect and Ubuntu-Mate struggled on my 8GB Pi 4 (also as I've come to expect). Overall I like Pinn OS. Thanks Lee.
Super helpful. Thanks a lot for this!!!
Hi. Enjoying your RPi videos. Reference adding more distros to Pinn, I believe you can use the entries in the Utility tab when you first install, to create empty partitions ready to add more distros. Though not tried it yet
It is about time more distros were on Pinn like Fenix, Apple Pi os, Apple big surf Pi, and so on.
128 is plenty for one os.
What do you mean?can’t you also os to pin?
Just order these 2 items from Amazon to multi boot my 400 🙂 Thanks!
Great video! How convenient that my SSD arrives tomorrow 😀. I chose a Kingston 480gb drive.
Sorry for the confusion I meant to say hold power and function beside the berry button for 7 to 9 seconds to power down if needed. I am a mess lately. I love Berryboot and my 128 GB SD full of OS's. I do need a 64 GB USB instead of the 32 GB I have been running. Berryboot is great. You can add from USB by going to Edit and hold the button for 3 seconds on the left add box. If you need to reset the bios for Lakka just reset the OS from the Edit box as well to reset configurations. That one friggin killed me trying to find out.
That was easy, I’m currently using twister os with my pi 400...
Nice one I didn't know about this. Installing now.
First! Great video!
I've used PINN for a while and updated Twister from the maintenance menu and was surprised when it didn't erase and re-install all my other OS's. But it seems you can't install a new OS without it trampling over everything, so now I install just about every OS I think I'll ever need.
Apparently there is a way of setting it so it doesn’t completely rewrite over your existing setup - I think it was mentioned in the PINN NOOBS thread on the RPi forum?
Absolutely brilliant video.
Your videos are brilliant mate. Informative, to the point , interesting and cover topics others don't always think of such as testing different things against each other. I got my pinn os setup now and running with my os's. A couple of questions if I may, how do you go back to adding more os's and can you add your os images e.g. hampi, please? Keep up the great work please.
Others have mentioned adding operating systems in the comments of some my other Pinn os videos and creating your own. Berryboot is more suited to adding and removing operating systems, also loads more operating systems are available. Unfortunately Berryboot needs an sd card in the Pi, even when you use an SSD for your operating systems.
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@@leepspvideo thank you. Will give Berryboot a try too and scroll through your video library.
What a useful video! Question: have you noticed much difference if any, in terms of performance, running an OS on Pinn vs a clean installation on the SSD?
It feels the same to me.
@@leepspvideo Thanks for the quick reply.
I really enjoy your presentation! What do you think about BerryBoot vs Pinn OS? Which one do you prefer and why? This might be a good topic for a video.
Thank you for this video
It will not respond to the shift when I reboot. Why? I have done this sata, stick and sad card. Same result.
Do you prefer this over berry boot?
I have a berry boot sd card but I heard you say this works better with USB support. So I think I'm gonna try it. I just put Ubuntu on a flash drive FINALLY. It took me forever to test it and it works just fine.
I like both. Berryboot supports loads of images including test images, plus you can convert non supported operating systems.
You can also convert non-supported OSes for PINN OS (instructions are in the README) but it involves a bit more work.
PINN-OS is now part of RasPi Imager as an option, No need to download, unzip and copy to drive anymore
Just completed this and very happy. Question.. when talking about over clocking- what would you say is a ‘safe’ over clock for the pi400? Or better left alone? Ps love your vids, been my go to since buying my pi! 👍🏻
Always Overclock at your own risk. I would be pretty confident at 2147 as I have used that for a long time. I’m currently doing a Pi 400 Overclock video.
Love all the info you provide, They help a lot. I have PINN OS set up on my Pi 4, with a few OSes and Android 11 on an M.2 SSD(argon1). I find that the boot config txt for android 11 specifies sd or usb for booting. Is there a specific script that I may add to allow it to boot from the SSD? That way everything boots from there, and I won't need the separate usb card I currently use to boot Android 11. Thanks again!
I was trying to setup PINN on a USB SSD and I kept getting errors, I put in the extra 14 files to see if that would help, nope errors still...
Turns out if you have a USB controller (I had an 8Bitdo gamepad plugged in) it doesn't like it. I had it plugged into the USB slot next to the power so I don't know if there's a preference for reading USB slots, but if you keep getting issues that could be it.
Some USB to sata adapters don't seem to work on USB 3 for some reason. Try it in the USB 2 port as a test, although I know that is far from Ideal.
@@chrisreynolds6331 Nah it works for booting that's not the issue, its having a controlled plugged in at the same time that was causing problems
5:03 is this the first reveal?
No, I talk to the camera a lot in bike and vacuum cleaner videos.
Thank you for another excellent video. Your content is clear your delivery is excellent, much appreciated. Do you know if Pinn will allow dual monitors to work properly? I have not been able to get dual monitors working correctly with Berryboot. Thanks
I haven’t tried, probably best to try with Raspberry Pi OS or Twister. I have used both with dual monitors. I’m sure Berryboot does something different with the kernel. So if it still doesn’t work Pinn might.
@@leepspvideo I just tried Pinn and the 64 bit Debian. It worked on both monitors right out of the gate. I believe this is the first time any multi boot worked the first time tried. Thanks again!
Just to let you know about that Power button you can shut down holding the button beside the berry for 7 to 9 seconds. I see power outages make the system come on on it's own so I am getting a power switch for mine. I want to control when it's on and off.
Thanks!
Just got a 400 and cannot get this to boot up after several tries. I tried with sd card and usb and the green light is on but no boot. A few words and pi logo flash, then nothing. Was looking so foward to having this setup! Thanks for all help!
Is it just Pinn OS that’s not working? It’s important your sd card or usb device is formatted as fat 32.
@@leepspvideo Thank you for replying.
1: Yes, it"s just Pinn OS. I've successfully (with help from your channel) run Twister OS, Retropie OS, and Pi OS from SD and USB. Pinn OS just won't boot up after a half dozen attempts from a number of different drives.
2: Yes, the sd and USB drives were formatted with pi imager and sd card formatter.
The drives I've tried are:
16gb Sandisk Edge
(2)32gb Silicon Power 3D Nano SD
64gb SandIsk Cruzer USB stick
Samsung BAR 32gb USB(3.1)stick.
It seems to be a simple enough operation to follow, and seems to work in every video I have seen. Any advice on where to start as far as solutions go?
Again, thanks so much for your time and your content.
A thanks to the community as well. Really appreciate it.
@@Allen-ne5dr try adding your issue to the GitHub
github.com/procount/pinn
@@leepspvideo Got it all ironed out, appreciate it. Looking forward to your next vid:-D
PINN doesn't seem to work now early 2022. It can connect to online help with tons of certification errors and for me at least, I can't get any installable versions listed at all. Main error is "Error downloading distribution list from internet", even though it's definitely connected.
Try this
Super easy Multi boot. Setup a Raspberry Pi with almost any device. Pinn Website.
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cool vid does hdd boot already with the hardware no updating to use ssd on new version keyboard
Usb boot is supported straight out of the box. It has the latest eeprom update.
The one in this video.
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Try as I might, I cant get PINN to use ethernet to download. I've gone back into raspian and the internet works through the ethernet cable, just seems its only PINN that doesn't seem to work. I'm on a RPI400 same as you.
Just found this question from a year ago. I guess you sorted it. There is a new way
Super easy Multi boot. Setup a Raspberry Pi with almost any device. Pinn Website.
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lee can you try to overclock your pi 400 ?
wonder what max speed you can achieve with it
my pi 4 can do 2.33 ghz
He said he'll do it once he gets the replacement unit.
@@ilaserbia ahh sorry forgot :P
is this better then berryboot or shouldnt I compare those two?
Hello sir. Thank you for video.
is ssd faster than sd card?
Much faster
Speed test Low cost SSDs. Raspberry Pi 4.
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How can I backup my original out-of-the-box Pi400 PiOS SD card (not running PINNs) to a Noobs/PINN installable distributiuon?
Between Twister OS and Fenix OS wish do you preferred.
I mostly use Twister. Fenix OS is also great.
I wonder if WOR would somehow be able to boot off Pinn OS too
My raspberry Pi 400 will be here tomorrow, is there anything I should know about it for booting from SSD? Do I need the sd card in still ? And can boot Ubuntu from that SSD? Also have you done a video on the Ubuntu cinnamon version and would that work on here?
I have covered a lot of operating systems running on the Pi 400 see this playlist
Raspberry Pi 400
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Put Pinn OS on your SSD and boot, as long as your sata cable is supported everything should work. No sd card needed
Ubuntu is included with Pinn OS I recommend adding Twister OS as well you can multi boot many operating systems just pick them from them menu in Pinn.
I haven’t tried cinnamon on Pi 400
Ubuntu Cinnamon Raspberry Pi 4 First look (Linux Mints Desktop environment)
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Cinnamon Desktop for Raspbian. Raspberry Pi 4. plus another Tearing and Chromium update.
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This might be a stupid question but is raspbian 64bit out of beta?
i have toshiba 1 tb usb 3 removable drive will this still work not being a ssd? thanks for the videos best info on here
Should be fine. It’s usually the cable that causes most problems. I have found the CSL usb to sata to be the most compatible.
Link in the description.
Make sure you have sufficient power
@@leepspvideo thanks im going to try it whilst waiting on a ssd which i think will perform better. and yes it has the special usb 3 cable
@@leepspvideo ive opted for your ssd recomendation it comes tommorrow
bought an Integral SSD 120GB thinking it would be good, but can't get anything to work. PINN gives errors, as does plain RaspberryPi OS. Tried two different SSD cables/enclosures. My regular SD card works OK, but was hoping to speed things up a bit...
Try updating the eeprom.
USB Boot the Simple way. Raspberry Pi OS. Pi 4.
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The problem is not usually the ssd it’s the sata cable.
I have a usb sata fix video if the eeprom update doesn’t work.
@@leepspvideo I thought the pI 400 had latest eeprom?
@@richardturnnidge standard usb boot is supported but it keeps getting updates to improve compatibility
github.com/raspberrypi/rpi-eeprom/blob/master/firmware/release-notes.md
@@leepspvideo thanks, but rpi-eeprom-update says I am up to date... :-(
@@leepspvideo Interestingly, I just installed standard Raspberry PI OS on a USB3 memory stick and it starts no problem. So, maybe my SSD is the issue, although it seems to work fine attached to my Mac. Would be good to find list of SSDs people know have worked with Pi 400.
bravo bien jouer
I want to put the software onto my SSD but it does not show Rasp- Pi Imager???
Edit: I got it on the Pi but now it crashes the screen when clicked and I have to reboot .
Final edit: After researching my issue more I found that I had to open in terminal which worked .
I will add a comment to the terminal request.🎉
Alternative setup
Super easy Multi boot. Setup a Raspberry Pi with almost any device. Pinn Website.
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@@leepspvideo thank you for a video I will watch it but I looked at some GitHub forums and might of found a fix by using the environment/file
I keep getting the "error resizing existing FAT partition message and then it says waiting on sd card
Try a different sd card or usb drive
Is there a way to clone an os from one sd card to another. Say I ran out of space on one of my pinn os's could I take that full os and copy it to its own SD card as the only os and expand it to fill all the space.
I haven’t done it with pinn
I am getting very frustrated trying to follow these seemingly simple steps. I completely erased the contents of a SABRENT 256.1GB SSD that I recovered from an old laptop. When I run the Pi Imager (v1.5) I get the following : "Error formatting (through udisks2)". I have tried formatting in various ways using gparted, but basically it isn't working. Any ideas?
Often the usb cable is the problem. Try the same process on a usb stick.
Make sure you have the latest eeprom
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@@leepspvideo I had already ordered some 32GB sticks when I saw your reply. Tried one today with no issues (thanks for the great video by the way). So by process of elimination it seems to be either the USB cable, the drive itself, or maybe the size of the drive(?). Next step will be to order a different cable - which is a bummer because this one came with a case included.
Quick update - the new USB3 cable works very well with the SSD, so valuable lesson there - not all USB3 cables are created equal! Next, the USB3 sticks I bought are not consistent - it seems that I bought some devices that were not quite as advertised. Buyer beware I guess. Having got RPi, TwisterOS, Ubuntu Mate and LibreElec installed on the SSD I have been working through each. I am having problems getting LibreElec to boot from the USB. It just shuts off after failing. Does this need the "14 files" fix, or is there any other known hint? Thanks
@@mikewilliams8627 doesn’t Twister already have Kodi?
@@leepspvideo Yes, it does. I noticed that when I was playing with it, but I haven't got in to the Kodi bit itself. I didn't realise this when I was selecting the OS's to install on PINN. Since I had installed LibreElec independently, I was trying to get it going.
I just tried to run my Twister over WIFI on a Pi400. The WIFI keeps dropping. I have to use a wired connection. Anyone else have this problem? My Pi400 works fine on WIFI with all the other distros I try. Think it might be Twister itself, just wondering if anyone else has this problem.
Is it true that berry boot always needs a sdcard to boot with the ssd with all the images?
In that case this program has an advantage, because it boots from the usbdrive.
Yes it’s true. I am covering Berryboot tomorrow.
PINN also has the advantage that the individual OS images are updated as soon as the original OS devs make updates, whereas with BerryBoot you have to wait for the BerryBoot dev to apply them
Is there a reason i can't get retropi to boot off ssd?
Here is my setup. 8gb raspberry pi. Argon m.2 ssd case. Samsung 860 ssd made sure its the non nvme version. And I'm using my acer predator x27 monitor.
I've used the raspberry imaging tool to flash my sd and ssd multiple times. I've re-download pinn os many times. Copied to ssd and boot into pinn just fine. I select raspbian 32 bit full, and retropie and they install fine. Problem is raspbian works, but when I select retropie to boot into, it's just a black screen nothing else. I've tried editing every known setting in the config and cmdline files thinking maybe my monitor wasn't being detected.
The strange thing is if I plug my ssd in, it boots into retropie fine. But my desired goal is to have a dual boot of raspbian full, and retropie running purely off ssd. Any help would be appreciated, I've been messing around all week with no luck.
Try plugging into usb 2.0 socket
Also this may work
USB Sata cable Fix. Black screen, won’t boot. Raspberry Pi 4 8GB. Raspberry Pi OS 64bit.
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@@leepspvideo I have the same problem. Retropie 4.6 from the PINN OS install is not booting from SSD. Not from USB2/3. Is there any way of getting retropie 4.7 to with on PINN?
Twister os is android base.?
It’s Linux, based on Raspberry Pi OS.
Is it possible to build an M.2 or ssd drive inside de raspberry pi 400?
Looking at the tear down videos, there is very little little space.
With this solution many of you will get underpower errors in dmesg so without externally powered usb case you should not try it.
It works fine for me. I have been using SSD drives with my Pi 4 for nearly 2 years.
RaspberryPi OS is only 32 bit?
Yes, but it works great plus it’s compatible with more content than any otheros on Pi.
Is Pinn OS ready on the Pi 5 yet?
Yes, as long as your Pi is on the latest EEPROM update. You don’t need to do the fix in this video
New Beta bootloader. How to update the eeprom. Pinn OS Raspberry Pi 5
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Why don't you use Berryboot anymore ?
I mentioned in the video, I have multiple sd cards and ssd drives so I don’t really need a multi boot OS.
PINN OS is, in theory at least, better than BerryBoot
Hi Lee, retropie errors and wont boot off SSD can you help Error44
Its usually the usb sata cable
All other OS works fine though, Lineage works great 👍 but I still have issues with Twister and usb drives have access denied. PINN problem i guess
Raspberry Pi 4
Already has support
pimiga does not want to start on pi 400
Windows 10 is the same, some things don’t work.
Quick question the Yukon drive is it only available in the UK Amazon USA doest have it ?
More links in the description of this video
Speed test Low cost SSDs. Raspberry Pi 4.
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@@leepspvideo The reason I ask I have issues using different SSD and I see you use the Yukon the most and it works Amazon doesn't carry the Yukon in the US put I can get a KingDian
@@lst3044 all the cheap SSD drives have worked well for me. I think the cable is the most important thing for compatibility.
@@leepspvideo I bought the cable you suggested I think its the SSD for me I am going to order the KingsDian one or just stick to the USB sticks -- you keep up the great vids gives us a starting point Thanks
@@lst3044 most usb sticks are significantly slower than even cheap SSD’s
A simple, templated script to create PINN-compatible compressed tarballs and metadata from an OS disk image. github.com/sakaki-/pinnify
These multi boot systems are real time wasters. They quickly rack up errors and are just not suited for day to day use. And no its not my equipment. So before we leap into these vids a little homework plz!
I haven’t had these issues. I have run Both Berryboot and Pinn OS regularly for a while now.
what about headless setup, when you dont have the monitor at hand?
I installed PINN from the imager, added vnc in recovery.cmdline so I can remote into the PINN itself but the problem is that when I boot into PI OS, I cannot ssh into it.
Can you suggest anything how to fix this?
I guess ssh isn’t enabled in the version Pi OS that’s available within Pinn. If it was Berryboot you could create your own with everything setup.
Berry converter
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I have never had success converting an image for use with Pinn