The problem is it’s only considered extreme to be like a Benny Hinn or a Bill Johnson. It’s not considered extreme to not believe miracles happen at all anymore. Considering all the healings and miracles we see in the Bible, it should be considered extreme heresy to think God just stopped working thru people to do those things at all.
Cessasionist do believe in miracles. They don’t believe in the gift of healing is still active today. Meaning PEOPLE do not have the ability to heal as the apostles did in the New Testament. Faith healers today claim to have the ability to walk up to people and BOOM instantly healed, if it doesn’t happen they blame the individual for a lack of faith.
You know the bible is chronicling about 6000 years of history (at a minimum if you’re young earth), there are big gaps in time that span 100s of years with no miracles taking place. The miracles God does through men are the exception, not the rule. Also, I’ll + 1 to the comments made above, and I’m a cautious continuationist myself, former cessationist.
Doctor Brown is an OG for real. People can’t treat him with the same expectation they have for a 20 or 30 year old. And if they do they simply aren’t up to speed. He’s put work in and backs it up.
I was a graduate from Dr. Brown’s college in the early 2000. It was the best four-year investment I ever made and still in ministry over two decades later .
@catholictruth102 Why should Christians ask for forgiveness? The Forgiveness from God to us have two sides to it. One is the positional forgiveness. As believers in Christ, we know that Jesus Christ will stand in for us before the judgement throne of God. This is REDEMPTION. Not our merit, but Jesus' merit, through His Blood. A promise by Jesus that will never go away. It is positional, always there. But as Christians, sons and daughters of God the Father. We have a relational relationship with God. We are in the process of santification and discipleship, to become more and more like Jesus. In Ephesians 4:30, we are told that believers, when we sin, we Grieve God. Our response is to confess and turn away from sin. As a child, this is a natural thing to do when we commit a wrong against our Father. So for you. Let me ask you a question. God demands perfection, not a single sin to get to heaven. So if you forget or miss to confess one of your sins, do you get to be with God in Heaven since you didnt actually confess a sin?
@catholictruth102 Not only the Lord's prayer, but why do we pray and repent in general? Do you not say sorry to your parents if you go against them? Your spouse if you are married? Anyone else? We have positional relationship with God in that as a believer, in the sight of God, we will be judged blamess as Jesus Christ covers our sins before God in judgement. But we are still children of God once we are saved and have ALSO a relational relationship with Him. We are not in our perfect bodies and sin still. When we sin, the Bible teaches that we GRIEVE the Holy Spirit. We do not lose salvation, but as children, we should confess and turn away (repent) from sin to restore the relationship relationally with God the Father. As Children, that should be our desire.
@@danielkim672if we deliberately sin and are not unrepented, I do believe clearly we are not saved. Our fruits should show our salvation. God shall not be mocked. Christianity is a life we live and not just a set of believes. If I keep hating people, the love of God is not in me. If I commit sexual immorality (and not repenting for it, feeling sorry is not repentance) I will not inherit the kingdom of heaven. Not talking about perfection, as Jesus is faithful and just to forgive and cleanse us from all since and unrighteousness. However I believe a Christian is in constant communication with Jesus (prayer, worship) and cannot continue to live in sin deliberately.
@@Racingfan101 In your example that you provide, it is my belief that the most logical explanation is that that person was never saved to begin with. They may be mouthed it verbally, or perhaps even made himself/herself believe they were saved, but they were not. To me, the clear Biblical teaching is that once we are saved, and are true born again Christian and went from death to life, we can not go back to death. That is due to not our own works, but the work and blood of Jesus Christ that is imputed to us.
Dr. Michael Brown just cooking it up. Praise Jesus for his work. He has stepped it up the last decade and continues to sprint to the finish line. Thank you!
@@clayw70 Bill Johnson is somebody I've seen him defend. I can't tell you where or when because I no longer remember the video I watched. I don't expect you to take my word for it because I wouldn't either.
@justinharrell327 Thank you for trying to provide an example. Dr. Brown on numerous occasions has called out Bill Johnson's false teachings. One of the guys from the American Gospel even did a video of Dr. Brown rebuking Bill Johnson. I don't believe he has called Bill a false teacher for Biblical reasons, but he has certainly rebuked and corrected false teachings. Many times, Dr. Brown is defending charismatic beliefs, not the specific person.
@@clayw70 Yeah I know that and I respect your opinion. I am just not comfortable recommending him to people who are not properly equipped to digest his stuff.
That's correct and well put, he was almost forced to call out false teachers in his 4 hour debate. And he would not make comment on Sid Roth's enticement of weird stuff because he never watches Sid's show even though they are good friends.
Dr Brown is perfectly right here. The cessationists will ignore a charismatic’s agreement/consistency on the deity of Christ, Christ’s resurrection etc but absolutely rail him and label him as unsaved because he believes in an abundance of contemporary miracles. They do all this whilst never calling out any error in their camp and even worse whitewashing and endorsing terrible acts of racism and immorality from some of their heroes. They ignore the plank in their eyes and they use a false balance. May the Lord have mercy .
"Never calling out any error in their camp." This is just whataboutism. The issue is that there seem to be very few voices within the charismatic movement, a movement that's been shown to have false and abusive teachers over and over and over again, willing to criticize said movement from within. Nobody is saying Michael Brown needs to dedicate all his time to criticizing people within his movement, merely that he be more willing to be some sort of voice willing to help regulate a movement with a lot of problems. I don't agree with people calling people unsaved for defending false teachers. But you can understand why people would say such a thing, no? Imagine for a moment that there was somebody defending the ancient heretic Arius, I would think that would easily be grounds to have serious doubts as to their salvation. And when we today have leaders within the charismatic movement flirting often with heretical doctrine, are often obsessed with money, often make false prophecies, often make false healings, put words into God's mouth, abuse people etc. And people like Brown seem to be willing to defend way more often than condemn such leaders, this I think can be frustrating to anybody on the outside hoping for somebody to be more critical. If you love something, you'll be critical of it, have high expectations for it. "Plank in their own eye." The excessiveness by which people use this phrase makes it seem like it would be impossible to ever be critical of anybody. Paul called himself the chief sinner and yet wherever he went he was intensely critical of all he came across. So its not that somebody or a group they are apart of needs to be perfect before somebody can be critical. Its warning against hypocrisy, self righteousness, and pride. If anti-charismatics were critical of charismatics for false prophecy, but there were major people within the anti charismatic movement who made false prophecies and were ignored, then this verse would apply better. If anti Charismatics acted like their movement had no problems and was perfect, then the verse would apply better. If there were major issues within the churches of the figures who were anti charismatic, and they ignored these in favor of continuing to be critical of charismatics, this verse would apply better. Its not obvious to me that the majority of those critical of the charismatic movement have these sorts of planks in their eyes.
No one says anyone is a heretic for believing in miracles, every cessationist I've heard of believes in miracles. It's the fact of the abundance of false prophets and false miracles that's the problem.
Brown doesn't need to spend all his time criticizing charismatics. However if he were more willing to condemn certain teachers who provably lie, deceive, and covet money. He would be extremely helpful in saving many within the charismatic movement from the abuse which is rampant among them. It would not be wise to ignore all criticism.
RC Sproul had put out probably just as many books, started a college had many speaking engagements and still found time to call out stuff within his own denomination (federal vision heresy to name one)
@@clayw70 Really? Because many people have pointed out that Michael is extremely reticent to call out false teachers. Even within one of his main books critical of the charismatic movement he overtly refuses to mention any names. The only time he roundly condemns a false teacher is when they've been accused of crimes, like Mike Bickle and Todd Bentley. Michael is extremely charitable towards people who often don't deserve it.
I know he has called out false teaching and the excesses of the charismatic movement, and am grateful for alot of the work he has done,, but everytime someone pointing to someone one something that is doing the thing he has said was an excess or false teaching he immediately goes on the defense.
@MrBattlestar10 He has called out people by name numerous times. It's a lie to say otherwise. Read and watch the videos for yourself. Further, Dr. Brown has written books to correct errors and made videos as well. He's reluctant to quickly label someone a false teacher because, to him, that is a declaration that the person is not saved. Based on your logic, we could also go after everyone who doesn't label Luther a false teacher. Luther certainly advocated for much worse things than any charismatic leader today.
@codygarner3686 How is it a defense to say, "If true, then he's a false teacher?" I think you're conflating the times when Dr. Brown defends charismatic beliefs, not the individuals.
As a charismatic, (not hyper) but I think more of our most trusted online teachers should call these false teachers and prophets out. I am not talking about secondary issues, but the hyper charismatics and prosperity preachers are hurting the whole church. People think they are the face of what we believe. it is a problem.
100% agreed. They have a platform that can help thousands of people that are being not only led astray by false teachers, but false teachers hurting people spiritually, emotionally, physically and getting money stolen from them.
It truly is, there are countries in which the whole non-catholic scene is dominated by the Prosperity Gospel, and hyper charismatic churches, which hurt believers and present a stumbling block for non-believers.
WOW! i’ve only watched him a little bit, and I’ve seen him debate various people. He always seems very knowledgeable and interesting to listen to. I had no idea how much literature he has put 8:33 out, but that is staggering! I wonder if it kind of amazes him when he pulls out all those books and sits back and realize how much work he’s done.
Thank you for providing some facts and context to this discussion! It grieves me to see people attack Dr. Brown. He's done such great work and spent his life serving the Lord.
@@septemberbaby1432 if you watch the video he is explaining how many books he has written etc. if someone states a truth , or fact, or makes an observation that happens to be right, does it really matter how many books one has written? That is not to knock Dr MB but the argument is flawed. It is an appeal to authority rather than truth.
That was not Dr. Michael Brown's point. His point was not "look how many papers I wrote, so look how right I am since you didn't write any". Listen closely, there is a nuance to what Dr. Michael Brown is saying. What he is saying is that pointing out people's errors is not his main calling. He was also responding to those who say "why don't you spend more time teaching God's word than responding to critism?". He was explaining that because he wrote textbook level studies of the Bible, he is deep into Bible study
Dr. Brown's point is that he spends his time on his calling. That includes his radio show, books, articles, and debates. He's not doing this to show his credentials.
@@Christian_Ajibodu by watching the debate with Michael brown and Justin Peters and most importantly scripture…. his interview with Corey Minor “smart Christian channel” revealed who he truly was. You’ve been deceived if you really thought he was legit.
@@Christian_Ajibodu you see what this person said about him being a heretic, that is why I rather don't comment anymore on anything.....😢 So sad that people do this to each other and then we say we love Jesus 😢 Love from SA 🇿🇦
@tanjasmit7535 I know right? People are so quick to call others' names like they're doing the body a favour. I also barely comment because of replies like his. Thanks! Love❤ from 🇳🇬😉
That was a wonderful example of a man, who is doing the work he is called to, getting totally fed up with people ignorant of his ministry who try to tell him what to do.
Check out Michael Brown kundalini, or Michael Brown mocks blind, or Michael Brown fire tunnel. Research rather than listening blindly to charasmatic apologists. This is not cessationists vs charasmatics as Ruslan would make you believe. I'm not either of those. This is about protecting the flock from deception.
One of the pastors I grew up with, brother Dave, taught me something he learned in the baking industry while counting money. The younger bankers would marvel at his uncanny ability to spot counterfeit. They would tell him, “teach us how to spot it”. His response was when you handle real money so much, when counterfeit appears it sticks out like a sore thumb. Rest in Christ brother Dave… I’ll see you soon
It's not a simple matter of charismatics vs cessationists. It's not even that Brown doesn't spend enough time and effort calling out problematic people. The issue is that he literally provides cover for the wolves and this has been shown time and time again. It's viIe
This is exactly it. It is not that Dr Brown does not or can not rebuke the heresy teachings in the hyper charismatic movement, it is also that he provides cover for them. That is horrible to the body.
Exactly. He's extremely charitable to people who don't deserve it. How many times can Brown be proven wrong before he changes? Like in the case of Todd Bentley, Mike Bickle, Benny Hinn and so on...before he realizes that just because some people like these folks and think they've done good things for them, doesn't mean they deserve charitability. Especially when there are so many people who also report being lied to or abused by these same false teachers.
@@MrBattlestar10 Dr Brown is VERY charitable. Just like when Sam Storm and Dr Brown were hemming and hawwing when told of the story by MIke Bickle saying Jesus appeared to Bickle playing a musical instrument SMH.
@@bugslayerprime7674 you can find it as you listen to Dr Brown more. He has a lot of videos, so hard to go back specifically. The most recent example is the long debate between Dr Brown and Sam Storms on one side and Justin Peters and Jim Osman on the other. It is a long 4 hour debate but the way Dr Brown covers for the likes of MIke Bickle and others, is astounding.
@jozzen77 100% Jesus alone saved me. What is the issue with sid Roth though? I haven't watched him in like 10 years. So I just have no idea what happend
@@JG-id5viwe can be saved with false teachers but as we learn the truth we run from them…. That is possible. Get out your feelings. Michael Brown is a heretic
The person who made me question continuationism and consider cessationism was James White indirectly. He's more directly the reason I'm a calvinist. James and Mike are dear friends. They acknowledge each other as brothers in the faith. And they've even debated opponents to the deity of Christ together. James even said of "A Queer Thing Happened To America" - having written a book himself on homosexuality and during a seminar on ministry in that subject - "I also recommend Dr Brown's book, A Queer Thing Happened to America. If you haven't read this book, you have not read the best book available on this topic." I ultimately lean more towards Brown on the gifts now, having grown up in the pentacostal church, but I don't know that I would necessarily call myself a continuationist. But one thing's for sure: Dr. Brown is a gift to the church, and I know Dr White agrees. The first book by him I ever read actually was - as a teenager - Revolution. And I think everyone should read both of those books. Both are giants of the faith and have left volumes and volumes of writing that deserve to be read. Honestly, they need to write a book together. They absolutely should. It would be legendary. Also, I LOLed really hard when they said "this is where it's going" and scrubbed over to where he had all the books on his desk and reems of paper. 😂😂😂😂
Rus just ignore these people who criticize you. It’s a waste of your energy 99% of the time- shut it off ignore them. It is what it is-at the end of the day you have to answer to Jesus.
Do you really think its wise to ignore criticism? We should be able to cut through the noise and find and listen to thoughtful criticism. Not doing so is just as dangerous as listening to every critical voice.
I really believe the MORE we learn to hear from God ourselves and have our own relationship with Him the better we keep others and their gifts or lack of in their places. It is no one else’s fault but ours for putting someone in God’s place then only to get disappointed when we see these are HUMANS he uses for a very good reason. He has chosen earthen vessels for this very reason. The Holy Spirit Himself is to lead us and teach us and He uses gifts with people but HE is the gift
This so good! I would not have seen Dr. Brown's rebuttal without you showing it...however, I was aware he was that caliber of scholar ... he does a lot with his debates, radio and worldwide in-person speaking as well. He calls out what is more important, people trapped in dangerous delusions, so calling out every Christian faker would be a massive waste of time; they can do it without him (and probably want him just to add power to their own doing so). Every time I've seen him in person over the years it was the most spiritual academic amazement imaginable.
As a non believer I wanted to know the bible. I read it one to three chapters a day. For each chapter I read four separate commentaries that break down the bible chapter by chapter. Each commentary was roughly the length of the bible itself. Jewish, Christian, Atheist, and scholarly perspectives I entertained. My reading took about two hours and then I would watch videos on UA-cam. Dr. Brown struck me as the most intelligent Christian on UA-cam and it really surprised me that he was Pentecostal. Most of the brains belong to the Orthodox branches. Agree or disagree, you got to respect this man.
I was going to say that he dropped the Mike butt.. he dropped the books!! What's amazing, you don't get the idea that he's bragging or is boasting. I believe it's in 1st Corinthians chapter 12 or 13 how it talks about we are all part of the church and we all have gifts to bring to the church. We all have a part to play, let's stop giving pastors all the work and all the attention and find what we can help out in your local church and the church in general. Pastors and ministers are not superheroes, let alone our Lord and Savior Jesus christ. It looks to me that Dr Brown is maxed out with time, and makes good use of his gifts. Let's worry about us finding our talents and our gifts and how God would want us to use those gifts to edify his Church..
Ive been listening to Dr. Brown for years and have read many if his books. One thing I've noticed, especially when he's defending himself, is that because he IS so well spoken and knowledgeable he has developed into a very sophisticated gaslighter and deflector. Much of his arguments against criticism of specific people are "have you written so many books as I have?" I like a lot of his books and teachings, so im not trying to dig on Michael Brown. All im saying is watch his debates and video rebuttals closely and you"ll see what I'm talking about. One of the things i really agree with him on is his question to the Reformed circle as to why they are not so willing to be as critical to their own camp as much as Dr. Brown has been to call out errors in charismatic doctrine and excesses. Within the Reformed circles, as long as you are affirming correct doctrine then we can bypass human behavioral errors and personal prejudices as in the example of the Reformed camp refusing to criticize the Reformer Martin Luther for his antisemitism and vulgar attitude towards Jews and theological opponents.
Yes! Thank you Ruslan for calling out the "why don't you just preach the gospel" Great point about your calling and people not watching your videos. Keep up the good work bro!
The best thing to do for people who are so critical with Dr. Brown, is to do what he does, and add their own stuffs of what they think Dr. Brown should be doing. So do Dr. Browns work + add the things which you think is right and he should be doing, then give us an update on how you guys would manage your time on that matter. Just curious how you'd handle that, no shots, just try it and give us an update.
I love Dr Brown. I met him at the Brownsville Revival. I’m personally not a “charismatic”. I believe God can do whatever He has done and won’t assume that all the gifts are dead, however I believe they are very abused in our time. Dr Brown is so knowledgeable and I believe He loves the Lord with all His heart! He has a Jewish viewpoint but loves Jesus! So much can be learned from him. And yes, it is Rabbi Schmuley (sp) that Candace has been going back and forth with. Making me want to get some of his books!!
This reminds me so much of Paul's defending his apostleship and ministry in 2 Corinthians! 😊 We had Dr. Brown at our church last year. A great man of God, IMO. I've heard others criticize him but I found nothing wrong with his stance, his Biblical grounding, or his attitude. Full disclosure: My wife and I go to a charismatic church even though we're not charismatic ourselves. We love the people, their faith, their reverence for Scripture, their love for the body, and their prayerfulness and joy. God is good.
I have a lot of respect for Dr. Brown. This is one place where his ingrained bias really trips him up. Dr. Brown should be smart enough to know that not spending his time calling out wolves isn’t the issue. The issue is that when he does comment on their actions, he doesn’t condemn them.
Dr. Brown is a straight up G! “Let me just move those out of the way [two large stacks of books], let’s grab our next stack here…” lol!! Much love and respect to one of the best to ever do it!
“Humble yourself in the side of the Lord” it’s sort of a bad look for Dr. Michael Brown boasting about all the things he’s written Paul said ”But far be it from me to boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by which the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world.“ Galatians 6:14 ESV
Thanks Richard. "I'm smarter than you" sounds very NARish like "Don't touch the Lords anointed". They almost had to break his arm to get him to acknowledge false teachers in their 4 hr debate. I wonder how he can be fed up with all the people he has never sat down with to find their heart.
I wish you had highlighted all the books he has written on the abuses of the charismatic movement. He called out his own camp, but everyone looks past that to just criticize
It's really sad that the online world basically lacks respect for everyone. One of the dangers of everyone having a voice is the voices of those who have no love in their hearts for those who Jesus died for. Really sad.
Dr. Brown is the real deal. I know because I know Mike - I was one of his students 35 yrs ago when he was Dean of Messiah Biblical Institute. I earned Master's in Theology due in large part to his commitment to academic excellence. Mike isn't doing anything different in defending his record than Paul did in several of his letters. The point isn't that we have to agree with 100% of what any human says. Mike would be the first to say TEST IT. His work speaks for itself.
Not a convincing argument at all. True, we're not all called to write various books, etc. like he mentioned, but we all ARE supposed to call out and expose false teachers. The fact that he has such a public platform and influence makes it all the more important for him to do so. The body of Christ as a whole is suffering incredible damage from the garbage that is peddled under the guise of "Christianity" from underneath the Charismatic umbrella, with very little being done from within to stop it. As we saw in the recent roundtable interview he was a part of, instead, we get lots of excuses.
This was a humble boast. Paul did the same thing when people were questioning his apostleship and whether he was actually speaking truth. 2 Corinthians 11:23-28
@@EugeneRose01 yeah but the criticisms against Paul weren't legitimate, and we have no reason to think Paul was responding to strawmen like Dr. Brown is, either. He's acting like the criticism is "why don't you call out more people" when in reality the actual criticism is "why do you create covering & give legitimacy to obviously false teachers/teachings?"
A question to him, or any other, do you expect those with different callings to trust his findings that are in his calling? He does not trust those who do see their calling in finding and condemning false teachers, rather he fights them and relies on his own perspective, which is by his own admission not even there because he is too busy. I know James White, Justin Peters, Chris Roseborough all trust and respect him for the things he has done. Why doesn't he reciprocate?
I believe the mistake you’re making is how you use the word trust. For example, Dr. Brown's statement, "If true, then they're false teachers," did reflect trust. He acknowledged that they had done research but that he would need to verify for himself. That's exactly what Christians are supposed to do. We're not supposed to believe something just because someone presents us with their evidence. James White, Justin Peters, etc. follow the exact same standard. They don't believe something Dr. Brown says even if he presents his evidence. They check for themselves.
Next to the Muppets (Swedish Chef, Beaker, Animal) singing "Danny Boy" (3 minutes - youtube) this presentation has produced hearty laughter for the soul! This is great. Thank You YHWH for Your servants who continue to know right from wrong and who know how to rightly discern Your Body. AMEN
I decree and declare that DrMB has officially won the debate, the thesis of which was: ”Anyone with the IQ of a turnip and five minutes of time can determine if Kenneth Copeland or Benny Hinn are false teachers or not.” His most persuasive argument was: ”Are you kidding me? Then I would for consistency’s sake have to be critical of the Brownsville revival as well! And that was a genuine revival because I was there and I witnessed people being genuinely emotional! Just trust me bro!”
He didn’t ask Hinn to repent. In addition, his scholarship is great, he just doesn’t actually stand behind it. Hinn, is a great example. It took 40 year for him to call him out and that wasn’t even a call out.
So in other words he’s saying unless Christians have produced a prolific amount of material on a subject, they are unequipped to critique or criticize him?
No. Although there's certainly a hint or undercurrent of "what have you done?" Rather this is a "look, I'm being incredibly productive and busy in what I feel called to do, why are you expecting me to also have the same time and energy investment in the things you do?"
One answer to address it all. Brown can comfortably be considered one of the many much needed Paul-ish individuals in the Church. But even Paul couldn't be everywhere at once.
Thank you for stopping the condemnation videos of different ministries. I enjoy, for the most part , your videos. I disagree with some (as everyone will), but really enjoy your stuff. Thanks.
I have mixed feelings about this. On one hand, I get it what he's going for, he's actually been doing the research and writing books as apposed to people who do nothing and just come out with hit pieces. On the other hand, whether he intended to or not, this video comes off as very arrogant. "Look at all the books I've written, and all the research I've done". I respect Dr Brown for his intelligence and all the work he's done for the kingdom, but the way he presents this video just doesnt hit it for me.
@@sbccave4015 In this particular case, one could argue yes, because he brought much joy to us in doing so; but mainly because he’s being kind to his critics, in trying another approach to show them the error of THEIR petty and prideful ways.
Uh... yeah. He's not lying nor bragging. Just showing he is way, waaaay too busy to deal with things he's not called to or interested in. The ones who are proud are the ones acting like this guy is an idiot and that they know better than him what he should do with his life and ministry.
@ Nobody is saying Michael needs to write 300 books condemning Charismatic teachers, just that he be more willing to be more critical of those within his movement. Instead it often seems like Brown is way more willing to defend, and needs to be dragged kicking and screaming to be critical of certain teachers. The fact that there seem to be so few leaders/thought leaders within the charismatic movement willing to be critical towards itself while having many proven huge issues is worrisome. And despite Michaels claim that he's too busy, he's not too busy to defend a lot of these folks.
@ funny that brother brown is so busy with stuff that he has been a prominent figure in the online spiritual gifts debate for the last couple years. Did he in that time, condemn some of the worst false teachers, that are hurting believers and leading them astray?
Doesn't Dr. Brown teach that a born again believer can lose salvation? Doesnt such a person think they contribute to salvation based on what they do and not the finished work of Christ?
It boils down to the words appropriate and discretion. Paul sums it for us very well in Galatians 1:10. Are we supposed to point out what fails our appropriate list? With guileless opprobrium? With guileful opprobrium? Or, keep our mouths shut?
If he has time to defend the his charismatic positions and cohorts alike, then he has time to call out the blatant heresy that's clearly happening in the word of faith movement. Souls are on the line
Watch his video in full that shows just how busy he is. No one in the world has that type of time regardless. And funny, I haven’t seen any videos from any of the major platforms calling out John MacArthur and his church for being documented abuse enablers. What bugs me is cessationists act like it‘a all about the crazy charismatics, but completely ignore their own garbage. Good for Dr Brown with this video.
@@bellabelle6 If Brown has time to defend these people, he has time to condemn them, its as simple as that. What's the bigger problem in the church right now? Reformed Baptist thinkers like John MacArthur? Or the Charismatic movement sweeping the globe? The answer is obvious.
Michael Brown is not prideful. His labor is full of prayer and concern for the Church and and the lost. He has a set of theological beliefs, but he is always open to discussion and debate like when he did his wonderful debates on Calvinism vs Arm. with James White. He always invites his students ans listenners to read, learn, research and pray.
On a side note, is there a way we can get a copy of that painting of Jesus that Ruslan has in the background? Is that for sale anywhere? My wife really likes it and it be coo to get it for her bday. Anyway, God bless fam!
Michael Brown has all the time in the world to write his books, but he doesn't have the time to look into claims THAT HIS OWN SON IN LAW - Ryan Bruss - has made for over 10 years about him taking regular trips to Heaven AND Hell. Michael Brown was once asked about this on his own phone in show. His response - "I don't know the details". Is he actually for real?! He has time to write numerous books, yet his own Son in law (who worked on the Sid Roth show funnily enough for years), is making claims that Michael Brown himself disagrees with, but he "doesn't know the details" of a close family member making such absurd claims?! Oh the irony. This sums Michael Brown up. He has plenty of time to defend himself and his own opinions, but choses to look the other way when it comes to things HE KNOWS deep down are simply not biblical. Only one way to describe people like this - spineless.
Wow. Amazing. It's fine to disagree with Michael Brown or anyone else's views but I think that's really puts things in perspective about the things he has done for the lord whether you agree with his continuationist viewpoint or his view on the role of Israel in the present and in the future.
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The problem is it’s only considered extreme to be like a Benny Hinn or a Bill Johnson. It’s not considered extreme to not believe miracles happen at all anymore. Considering all the healings and miracles we see in the Bible, it should be considered extreme heresy to think God just stopped working thru people to do those things at all.
To be fair, I’ve never heard a cessationist say miracles don’t happen at all anymore.
Cessasionist do believe in miracles. They don’t believe in the gift of healing is still active today. Meaning PEOPLE do not have the ability to heal as the apostles did in the New Testament. Faith healers today claim to have the ability to walk up to people and BOOM instantly healed, if it doesn’t happen they blame the individual for a lack of faith.
I don't think many, if any, cessasionists would say that God doesn't perform any miracles anymore.
Cessationists do not believe that.
You know the bible is chronicling about 6000 years of history (at a minimum if you’re young earth), there are big gaps in time that span 100s of years with no miracles taking place. The miracles God does through men are the exception, not the rule.
Also, I’ll + 1 to the comments made above, and I’m a cautious continuationist myself, former cessationist.
Doctor Brown is an OG for real. People can’t treat him with the same expectation they have for a 20 or 30 year old. And if they do they simply aren’t up to speed. He’s put work in and backs it up.
You do realise that OG stands for Original Gangster - I would suggest we should not be referring to Doctor Brown as a gangster
@@JoBo301You’re right let’s call him by his correct title a heretic. I refuse to call him a doctor
@@LexxMassey Why do you believe that??
it’s slang given to someone who you respect.
@@JoBo301 NO it doesn't. IT stands for Original. Like the original version. Only those "gangsters" care about their claim to Original Gangster.
I was a graduate from Dr. Brown’s college in the early 2000. It was the best four-year investment I ever made and still in ministry over two decades later .
Was DR Brown teaching that for a saved believer back then, future sins for that person is not covered by Jesus Christ?
@catholictruth102 Why should Christians ask for forgiveness? The Forgiveness from God to us have two sides to it. One is the positional forgiveness. As believers in Christ, we know that Jesus Christ will stand in for us before the judgement throne of God. This is REDEMPTION. Not our merit, but Jesus' merit, through His Blood. A promise by Jesus that will never go away. It is positional, always there.
But as Christians, sons and daughters of God the Father. We have a relational relationship with God. We are in the process of santification and discipleship, to become more and more like Jesus. In Ephesians 4:30, we are told that believers, when we sin, we Grieve God. Our response is to confess and turn away from sin. As a child, this is a natural thing to do when we commit a wrong against our Father.
So for you. Let me ask you a question. God demands perfection, not a single sin to get to heaven. So if you forget or miss to confess one of your sins, do you get to be with God in Heaven since you didnt actually confess a sin?
@catholictruth102 Not only the Lord's prayer, but why do we pray and repent in general? Do you not say sorry to your parents if you go against them? Your spouse if you are married? Anyone else?
We have positional relationship with God in that as a believer, in the sight of God, we will be judged blamess as Jesus Christ covers our sins before God in judgement. But we are still children of God once we are saved and have ALSO a relational relationship with Him. We are not in our perfect bodies and sin still. When we sin, the Bible teaches that we GRIEVE the Holy Spirit. We do not lose salvation, but as children, we should confess and turn away (repent) from sin to restore the relationship relationally with God the Father. As Children, that should be our desire.
@@danielkim672if we deliberately sin and are not unrepented, I do believe clearly we are not saved. Our fruits should show our salvation. God shall not be mocked. Christianity is a life we live and not just a set of believes. If I keep hating people, the love of God is not in me. If I commit sexual immorality (and not repenting for it, feeling sorry is not repentance) I will not inherit the kingdom of heaven. Not talking about perfection, as Jesus is faithful and just to forgive and cleanse us from all since and unrighteousness. However I believe a Christian is in constant communication with Jesus (prayer, worship) and cannot continue to live in sin deliberately.
@@Racingfan101 In your example that you provide, it is my belief that the most logical explanation is that that person was never saved to begin with. They may be mouthed it verbally, or perhaps even made himself/herself believe they were saved, but they were not. To me, the clear Biblical teaching is that once we are saved, and are true born again Christian and went from death to life, we can not go back to death. That is due to not our own works, but the work and blood of Jesus Christ that is imputed to us.
Dr. Michael Brown just cooking it up. Praise Jesus for his work. He has stepped it up the last decade and continues to sprint to the finish line. Thank you!
I don't care if he doesn't spend time calling out charismatic error. I care when he seems to defend people who practice charismatic error.
Can you give some examples of Dr. Brown defending those who practice error.
@@clayw70 Bill Johnson is somebody I've seen him defend. I can't tell you where or when because I no longer remember the video I watched. I don't expect you to take my word for it because I wouldn't either.
@justinharrell327 Thank you for trying to provide an example. Dr. Brown on numerous occasions has called out Bill Johnson's false teachings. One of the guys from the American Gospel even did a video of Dr. Brown rebuking Bill Johnson. I don't believe he has called Bill a false teacher for Biblical reasons, but he has certainly rebuked and corrected false teachings. Many times, Dr. Brown is defending charismatic beliefs, not the specific person.
@@clayw70 Yeah I know that and I respect your opinion. I am just not comfortable recommending him to people who are not properly equipped to digest his stuff.
That's correct and well put, he was almost forced to call out false teachers in his 4 hour debate. And he would not make comment on Sid Roth's enticement of weird stuff because he never watches Sid's show even though they are good friends.
Dr Brown is perfectly right here. The cessationists will ignore a charismatic’s agreement/consistency on the deity of Christ, Christ’s resurrection etc but absolutely rail him and label him as unsaved because he believes in an abundance of contemporary miracles. They do all this whilst never calling out any error in their camp and even worse whitewashing and endorsing terrible acts of racism and immorality from some of their heroes. They ignore the plank in their eyes and they use a false balance. May the Lord have mercy .
"Never calling out any error in their camp." This is just whataboutism. The issue is that there seem to be very few voices within the charismatic movement, a movement that's been shown to have false and abusive teachers over and over and over again, willing to criticize said movement from within. Nobody is saying Michael Brown needs to dedicate all his time to criticizing people within his movement, merely that he be more willing to be some sort of voice willing to help regulate a movement with a lot of problems. I don't agree with people calling people unsaved for defending false teachers. But you can understand why people would say such a thing, no? Imagine for a moment that there was somebody defending the ancient heretic Arius, I would think that would easily be grounds to have serious doubts as to their salvation. And when we today have leaders within the charismatic movement flirting often with heretical doctrine, are often obsessed with money, often make false prophecies, often make false healings, put words into God's mouth, abuse people etc. And people like Brown seem to be willing to defend way more often than condemn such leaders, this I think can be frustrating to anybody on the outside hoping for somebody to be more critical. If you love something, you'll be critical of it, have high expectations for it.
"Plank in their own eye." The excessiveness by which people use this phrase makes it seem like it would be impossible to ever be critical of anybody. Paul called himself the chief sinner and yet wherever he went he was intensely critical of all he came across. So its not that somebody or a group they are apart of needs to be perfect before somebody can be critical. Its warning against hypocrisy, self righteousness, and pride. If anti-charismatics were critical of charismatics for false prophecy, but there were major people within the anti charismatic movement who made false prophecies and were ignored, then this verse would apply better. If anti Charismatics acted like their movement had no problems and was perfect, then the verse would apply better. If there were major issues within the churches of the figures who were anti charismatic, and they ignored these in favor of continuing to be critical of charismatics, this verse would apply better. Its not obvious to me that the majority of those critical of the charismatic movement have these sorts of planks in their eyes.
No one says anyone is a heretic for believing in miracles, every cessationist I've heard of believes in miracles. It's the fact of the abundance of false prophets and false miracles that's the problem.
Awesome comment! Thanks 🙏
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I love Dr Brown he’s the best. He can never do enough to please both sides. He should just ignore them and focus on his calling. Such a kind man.
Brown doesn't need to spend all his time criticizing charismatics. However if he were more willing to condemn certain teachers who provably lie, deceive, and covet money. He would be extremely helpful in saving many within the charismatic movement from the abuse which is rampant among them. It would not be wise to ignore all criticism.
So this video he did, gave me a whole list of new books to read
RC Sproul had put out probably just as many books, started a college had many speaking engagements and still found time to call out stuff within his own denomination (federal vision heresy to name one)
Dr. Brown has called out false teachings and teachers. He's done this going back to the 90s. He has books on it, including some shown in the video.
@@clayw70 Really? Because many people have pointed out that Michael is extremely reticent to call out false teachers. Even within one of his main books critical of the charismatic movement he overtly refuses to mention any names. The only time he roundly condemns a false teacher is when they've been accused of crimes, like Mike Bickle and Todd Bentley. Michael is extremely charitable towards people who often don't deserve it.
I know he has called out false teaching and the excesses of the charismatic movement, and am grateful for alot of the work he has done,, but everytime someone pointing to someone one something that is doing the thing he has said was an excess or false teaching he immediately goes on the defense.
@MrBattlestar10 He has called out people by name numerous times. It's a lie to say otherwise. Read and watch the videos for yourself. Further, Dr. Brown has written books to correct errors and made videos as well. He's reluctant to quickly label someone a false teacher because, to him, that is a declaration that the person is not saved.
Based on your logic, we could also go after everyone who doesn't label Luther a false teacher. Luther certainly advocated for much worse things than any charismatic leader today.
@codygarner3686 How is it a defense to say, "If true, then he's a false teacher?" I think you're conflating the times when Dr. Brown defends charismatic beliefs, not the individuals.
As a charismatic, (not hyper) but I think more of our most trusted online teachers should call these false teachers and prophets out. I am not talking about secondary issues, but the hyper charismatics and prosperity preachers are hurting the whole church. People think they are the face of what we believe. it is a problem.
There needs to be more folks like you. God bless.
100% agreed. They have a platform that can help thousands of people that are being not only led astray by false teachers, but false teachers hurting people spiritually, emotionally, physically and getting money stolen from them.
It truly is, there are countries in which the whole non-catholic scene is dominated by the Prosperity Gospel, and hyper charismatic churches, which hurt believers and present a stumbling block for non-believers.
THANKS FOR SHARING!! Dr. Brown's incredible Biblical response!!
Micheal Brown is a hero. I was shocked of his Zeal of such Gigantic Proportions for the Lord .His devotions is deep.
They need to leave that man alone to do his work. He's obviously passionate about fulfilling his calling to edify the body of Christ.
WOW! i’ve only watched him a little bit, and I’ve seen him debate various people. He always seems very knowledgeable and interesting to listen to. I had no idea how much literature he has put 8:33 out, but that is staggering! I wonder if it kind of amazes him when he pulls out all those books and sits back and realize how much work he’s done.
Thank you for providing some facts and context to this discussion! It grieves me to see people attack Dr. Brown. He's done such great work and spent his life serving the Lord.
Much respect to Dr Michael Brown. I love that guy 😁
If something is right or wrong it doesn’t matter how many books or pages you have written.
What’s your point?
@@septemberbaby1432 if you watch the video he is explaining how many books he has written etc. if someone states a truth , or fact, or makes an observation that happens to be right, does it really matter how many books one has written? That is not to knock Dr MB but the argument is flawed. It is an appeal to authority rather than truth.
That was not Dr. Michael Brown's point. His point was not "look how many papers I wrote, so look how right I am since you didn't write any". Listen closely, there is a nuance to what Dr. Michael Brown is saying. What he is saying is that pointing out people's errors is not his main calling. He was also responding to those who say "why don't you spend more time teaching God's word than responding to critism?". He was explaining that because he wrote textbook level studies of the Bible, he is deep into Bible study
@@matthews1338 and yet he made the point of authority, why mention it at all. My original point stands.
Dr. Brown's point is that he spends his time on his calling. That includes his radio show, books, articles, and debates. He's not doing this to show his credentials.
Dr Brown. An amazing man of God.
Whoa!😯 Dr. Brown is a legend!❤🔥🙌🏽
Nah he’s a silver tongue heretic. A false teacher
@@LexxMassey And you know this how?👀
@@Christian_Ajibodu by watching the debate with Michael brown and Justin Peters and most importantly scripture…. his interview with Corey Minor “smart Christian channel” revealed who he truly was. You’ve been deceived if you really thought he was legit.
@@Christian_Ajibodu you see what this person said about him being a heretic, that is why I rather don't comment anymore on anything.....😢
So sad that people do this to each other and then we say we love Jesus 😢
Love from SA 🇿🇦
@tanjasmit7535 I know right? People are so quick to call others' names like they're doing the body a favour. I also barely comment because of replies like his.
Thanks!
Love❤ from 🇳🇬😉
How can you not love Dr. Brown 😂
I don’t like Dr. Brown. I think he’s a grifter.
That was a wonderful example of a man, who is doing the work he is called to, getting totally fed up with people ignorant of his ministry who try to tell him what to do.
Check out Michael Brown kundalini, or Michael Brown mocks blind, or Michael Brown fire tunnel. Research rather than listening blindly to charasmatic apologists. This is not cessationists vs charasmatics as Ruslan would make you believe. I'm not either of those. This is about protecting the flock from deception.
One of the pastors I grew up with, brother Dave, taught me something he learned in the baking industry while counting money. The younger bankers would marvel at his uncanny ability to spot counterfeit. They would tell him, “teach us how to spot it”. His response was when you handle real money so much, when counterfeit appears it sticks out like a sore thumb.
Rest in Christ brother Dave… I’ll see you soon
been listening to Dr. Brown since 2009. Shameless brag
Love, Dr. Micheal Brown
It's not a simple matter of charismatics vs cessationists. It's not even that Brown doesn't spend enough time and effort calling out problematic people. The issue is that he literally provides cover for the wolves and this has been shown time and time again. It's viIe
This is exactly it. It is not that Dr Brown does not or can not rebuke the heresy teachings in the hyper charismatic movement, it is also that he provides cover for them. That is horrible to the body.
Exactly. He's extremely charitable to people who don't deserve it. How many times can Brown be proven wrong before he changes? Like in the case of Todd Bentley, Mike Bickle, Benny Hinn and so on...before he realizes that just because some people like these folks and think they've done good things for them, doesn't mean they deserve charitability. Especially when there are so many people who also report being lied to or abused by these same false teachers.
@@MrBattlestar10 Dr Brown is VERY charitable. Just like when Sam Storm and Dr Brown were hemming and hawwing when told of the story by MIke Bickle saying Jesus appeared to Bickle playing a musical instrument SMH.
I've not known of Dr Brown for very long. Can you provide receipts of where and who he has covered for?
@@bugslayerprime7674 you can find it as you listen to Dr Brown more. He has a lot of videos, so hard to go back specifically. The most recent example is the long debate between Dr Brown and Sam Storms on one side and Justin Peters and Jim Osman on the other. It is a long 4 hour debate but the way Dr Brown covers for the likes of MIke Bickle and others, is astounding.
Praying God has mercy with Michael Brown for leading people to sid rothn and other false teachers.
I was saved watching sid roths show.
@@JG-id5vi i was saved in a church that said if i give money to the Church God would give me 2x more. Sid roth did not save you. Jesus did.
@jozzen77 100% Jesus alone saved me. What is the issue with sid Roth though? I haven't watched him in like 10 years. So I just have no idea what happend
@@JG-id5viwe can be saved with false teachers but as we learn the truth we run from them…. That is possible. Get out your feelings. Michael Brown is a heretic
@@JG-id5visid Roth fellowship with a lot of so called false prophets and teachers.
Great video. Mad respect for Dr Brown.
The person who made me question continuationism and consider cessationism was James White indirectly. He's more directly the reason I'm a calvinist. James and Mike are dear friends. They acknowledge each other as brothers in the faith. And they've even debated opponents to the deity of Christ together. James even said of "A Queer Thing Happened To America" - having written a book himself on homosexuality and during a seminar on ministry in that subject - "I also recommend Dr Brown's book, A Queer Thing Happened to America. If you haven't read this book, you have not read the best book available on this topic." I ultimately lean more towards Brown on the gifts now, having grown up in the pentacostal church, but I don't know that I would necessarily call myself a continuationist. But one thing's for sure: Dr. Brown is a gift to the church, and I know Dr White agrees. The first book by him I ever read actually was - as a teenager - Revolution. And I think everyone should read both of those books. Both are giants of the faith and have left volumes and volumes of writing that deserve to be read. Honestly, they need to write a book together. They absolutely should. It would be legendary.
Also, I LOLed really hard when they said "this is where it's going" and scrubbed over to where he had all the books on his desk and reems of paper. 😂😂😂😂
Dr. MLB 😂 with the receipts.
Thank you ALL for the work you are doing, and your own individual callings ❤
❤ Dr Brown. one of my favorite speakers and “go to” when I have a question on a scripture or a topic
Rus just ignore these people who criticize you. It’s a waste of your energy 99% of the time- shut it off ignore them. It is what it is-at the end of the day you have to answer to Jesus.
Do you really think its wise to ignore criticism? We should be able to cut through the noise and find and listen to thoughtful criticism. Not doing so is just as dangerous as listening to every critical voice.
@Bless God Studios Didn't Dr Michael Brown appear in a documentary against Once Saved, Always Saved? What are your thoughts on that?
Because Ik you did a video on it earlier on.
I really believe the MORE we learn to hear from God ourselves and have our own relationship with Him the better we keep others and their gifts or lack of in their places. It is no one else’s fault but ours for putting someone in God’s place then only to get disappointed when we see these are HUMANS he uses for a very good reason. He has chosen earthen vessels for this very reason. The Holy Spirit Himself is to lead us and teach us and He uses gifts with people but HE is the gift
“Oh got it got it” 😂😂😂
Gret video. Thanks Ruslan.
This so good! I would not have seen Dr. Brown's rebuttal without you showing it...however, I was aware he was that caliber of scholar ... he does a lot with his debates, radio and worldwide in-person speaking as well. He calls out what is more important, people trapped in dangerous delusions, so calling out every Christian faker would be a massive waste of time; they can do it without him (and probably want him just to add power to their own doing so). Every time I've seen him in person over the years it was the most spiritual academic amazement imaginable.
As a non believer I wanted to know the bible. I read it one to three chapters a day. For each chapter I read four separate commentaries that break down the bible chapter by chapter. Each commentary was roughly the length of the bible itself. Jewish, Christian, Atheist, and scholarly perspectives I entertained. My reading took about two hours and then I would watch videos on UA-cam. Dr. Brown struck me as the most intelligent Christian on UA-cam and it really surprised me that he was Pentecostal. Most of the brains belong to the Orthodox branches. Agree or disagree, you got to respect this man.
I was going to say that he dropped the Mike butt.. he dropped the books!! What's amazing, you don't get the idea that he's bragging or is boasting. I believe it's in 1st Corinthians chapter 12 or 13 how it talks about we are all part of the church and we all have gifts to bring to the church. We all have a part to play, let's stop giving pastors all the work and all the attention and find what we can help out in your local church and the church in general. Pastors and ministers are not superheroes, let alone our Lord and Savior Jesus christ. It looks to me that Dr Brown is maxed out with time, and makes good use of his gifts. Let's worry about us finding our talents and our gifts and how God would want us to use those gifts to edify his Church..
This is the best clap back ever 😂
You mean the most prideful?
Ive been listening to Dr. Brown for years and have read many if his books. One thing I've noticed, especially when he's defending himself, is that because he IS so well spoken and knowledgeable he has developed into a very sophisticated gaslighter and deflector. Much of his arguments against criticism of specific people are "have you written so many books as I have?" I like a lot of his books and teachings, so im not trying to dig on Michael Brown. All im saying is watch his debates and video rebuttals closely and you"ll see what I'm talking about. One of the things i really agree with him on is his question to the Reformed circle as to why they are not so willing to be as critical to their own camp as much as Dr. Brown has been to call out errors in charismatic doctrine and excesses. Within the Reformed circles, as long as you are affirming correct doctrine then we can bypass human behavioral errors and personal prejudices as in the example of the Reformed camp refusing to criticize the Reformer Martin Luther for his antisemitism and vulgar attitude towards Jews and theological opponents.
Yes! Thank you Ruslan for calling out the "why don't you just preach the gospel" Great point about your calling and people not watching your videos. Keep up the good work bro!
The best thing to do for people who are so critical with Dr. Brown, is to do what he does, and add their own stuffs of what they think Dr. Brown should be doing.
So do Dr. Browns work + add the things which you think is right and he should be doing, then give us an update on how you guys would manage your time on that matter.
Just curious how you'd handle that, no shots, just try it and give us an update.
Dr MB FOR THE WIN!
Big fan of Dr. Brown.
I love Dr Brown. I met him at the Brownsville Revival. I’m personally not a “charismatic”. I believe God can do whatever He has done and won’t assume that all the gifts are dead, however I believe they are very abused in our time. Dr Brown is so knowledgeable and I believe He loves the Lord with all His heart! He has a Jewish viewpoint but loves Jesus! So much can be learned from him. And yes, it is Rabbi Schmuley (sp) that Candace has been going back and forth with. Making me want to get some of his books!!
COME ON!!!! LETS GOOOOOO Dr. Michael Brown. Straight up, you are the bomb diggity!
Can we get some more Dr. Michael Brown’s in this world!? Pleeeease
This reminds me so much of Paul's defending his apostleship and ministry in 2 Corinthians! 😊 We had Dr. Brown at our church last year. A great man of God, IMO. I've heard others criticize him but I found nothing wrong with his stance, his Biblical grounding, or his attitude. Full disclosure: My wife and I go to a charismatic church even though we're not charismatic ourselves. We love the people, their faith, their reverence for Scripture, their love for the body, and their prayerfulness and joy. God is good.
🔥🔥🔥🔥 I only know him by your channel and nate from wise disciple mentioned him once or twice. Wow! This man is a seasoned vet. Love this ! 🙏🔥❤️
"this makes me hopeful that I can write *A* (one) book" -Ruslan
I felt that.
Me too!
I have a lot of respect for Dr. Brown. This is one place where his ingrained bias really trips him up. Dr. Brown should be smart enough to know that not spending his time calling out wolves isn’t the issue. The issue is that when he does comment on their actions, he doesn’t condemn them.
Ha! This is awesome! Love Dr. Michael Brown!
Dr. Brown is a straight up G! “Let me just move those out of the way [two large stacks of books], let’s grab our next stack here…” lol!! Much love and respect to one of the best to ever do it!
The man is one of the most brilliant commentators of our time.
“Humble yourself in the side of the Lord” it’s sort of a bad look for Dr. Michael Brown boasting about all the things he’s written Paul said ”But far be it from me to boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by which the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world.“
Galatians 6:14 ESV
Thanks Richard. "I'm smarter than you" sounds very NARish like "Don't touch the Lords anointed". They almost had to break his arm to get him to acknowledge false teachers in their 4 hr debate. I wonder how he can be fed up with all the people he has never sat down with to find their heart.
@@guitarandgospel yep! You are correct I pointed all that out in my coverage of the roundtable discussion. Maybe you might be interested
@@richardm23 Saw them
Not to mention he runs a daily radio program, teaches at multiple Bible colleges, preaches regularly, etc.
we talk about you in church every week bro!! HAHAHA I love this channel! So refrecshing for a man like me coming out of legalism
I wish you had highlighted all the books he has written on the abuses of the charismatic movement. He called out his own camp, but everyone looks past that to just criticize
Love Dr Brown!
Makes me feel extremely small. What have I done, and what more could I do for the Lord? I think that ought to be the proper question we must ask.
Awesome
a true worker =)
It's really sad that the online world basically lacks respect for everyone. One of the dangers of everyone having a voice is the voices of those who have no love in their hearts for those who Jesus died for. Really sad.
🤣🤣 So good Dr. Brown!
Dr. Michael Brown vs Nadir Ahmed is an all time great and was my introduction to him.
If you haven't seen it, I highly recommend this comedy.
Dr. Brown is the real deal. I know because I know Mike - I was one of his students 35 yrs ago when he was Dean of Messiah Biblical Institute. I earned Master's in Theology due in large part to his commitment to academic excellence. Mike isn't doing anything different in defending his record than Paul did in several of his letters. The point isn't that we have to agree with 100% of what any human says. Mike would be the first to say TEST IT. His work speaks for itself.
Not a convincing argument at all. True, we're not all called to write various books, etc. like he mentioned, but we all ARE supposed to call out and expose false teachers. The fact that he has such a public platform and influence makes it all the more important for him to do so. The body of Christ as a whole is suffering incredible damage from the garbage that is peddled under the guise of "Christianity" from underneath the Charismatic umbrella, with very little being done from within to stop it. As we saw in the recent roundtable interview he was a part of, instead, we get lots of excuses.
I love this. Ifyou don't get it after this...
How, exactly, is this humble?
This was a humble boast. Paul did the same thing when people were questioning his apostleship and whether he was actually speaking truth.
2 Corinthians 11:23-28
@@EugeneRose01 yeah but the criticisms against Paul weren't legitimate, and we have no reason to think Paul was responding to strawmen like Dr. Brown is, either.
He's acting like the criticism is "why don't you call out more people" when in reality the actual criticism is "why do you create covering & give legitimacy to obviously false teachers/teachings?"
Bro when you skipped to his face being surrounded by 📚 I had to tip my hat off😭 this legend flexed on us with books and he’s cooking😭
'But this I hold against you'
The man is a legend 😅😂
A question to him, or any other, do you expect those with different callings to trust his findings that are in his calling? He does not trust those who do see their calling in finding and condemning false teachers, rather he fights them and relies on his own perspective, which is by his own admission not even there because he is too busy. I know James White, Justin Peters, Chris Roseborough all trust and respect him for the things he has done. Why doesn't he reciprocate?
Great response.
I believe the mistake you’re making is how you use the word trust. For example, Dr. Brown's statement, "If true, then they're false teachers," did reflect trust. He acknowledged that they had done research but that he would need to verify for himself. That's exactly what Christians are supposed to do. We're not supposed to believe something just because someone presents us with their evidence. James White, Justin Peters, etc. follow the exact same standard. They don't believe something Dr. Brown says even if he presents his evidence. They check for themselves.
Next to the Muppets (Swedish Chef, Beaker, Animal) singing "Danny Boy" (3 minutes - youtube) this presentation has produced hearty laughter for the soul! This is great. Thank You YHWH for Your servants who continue to know right from wrong and who know how to rightly discern Your Body. AMEN
I decree and declare that DrMB has officially won the debate, the thesis of which was: ”Anyone with the IQ of a turnip and five minutes of time can determine if Kenneth Copeland or Benny Hinn are false teachers or not.” His most persuasive argument was: ”Are you kidding me? Then I would for consistency’s sake have to be critical of the Brownsville revival as well! And that was a genuine revival because I was there and I witnessed people being genuinely emotional! Just trust me bro!”
Gospel Gangster 🙏🏾👊🏾✊🏾😎
Waiting for that music video ft. Dr Michael Brown
He didn’t ask Hinn to repent. In addition, his scholarship is great, he just doesn’t actually stand behind it. Hinn, is a great example. It took 40 year for him to call him out and that wasn’t even a call out.
So in other words he’s saying unless Christians have produced a prolific amount of material on a subject, they are unequipped to critique or criticize him?
No. Although there's certainly a hint or undercurrent of "what have you done?"
Rather this is a "look, I'm being incredibly productive and busy in what I feel called to do, why are you expecting me to also have the same time and energy investment in the things you do?"
@@trulsrohk1 He's not busy enough to defend these people.
One answer to address it all.
Brown can comfortably be considered one of the many much needed Paul-ish individuals in the Church.
But even Paul couldn't be everywhere at once.
And he doesn't need to be, he just doesn't need to defend false teachers.
He still owes Mark Taylor an apology.
I'm sure Dr. Brown regrets doing that. One thing I got is that I didn't know how many resources he had available
Thank you for stopping the condemnation videos of different ministries. I enjoy, for the most part , your videos. I disagree with some (as everyone will), but really enjoy your stuff. Thanks.
I have mixed feelings about this. On one hand, I get it what he's going for, he's actually been doing the research and writing books as apposed to people who do nothing and just come out with hit pieces. On the other hand, whether he intended to or not, this video comes off as very arrogant. "Look at all the books I've written, and all the research I've done". I respect Dr Brown for his intelligence and all the work he's done for the kingdom, but the way he presents this video just doesnt hit it for me.
It was epic, actually. With the way people go at him, completely unfounded, this was the perfect response.
He played his one card perfectly here. A response to end all responses.
😁DR Brown was petty here. I LOVED It!!!!😎
@@Mrdllish777is pettiness a fruit of the spirit?
@@sbccave4015 In this particular case, one could argue yes, because he brought much joy to us in doing so; but mainly because he’s being kind to his critics, in trying another approach to show them the error of THEIR petty and prideful ways.
Great video. Yes, what a fun flex from Dr. Brown! Love the take. I wasn’t into your vibe with your recent solar eclipse vids, but this was cool.
I love it
The only answer that matters is to the question, is God impressed? 7:30 not done in humility, not even veiled in humility.
Humble?
Uh... yeah. He's not lying nor bragging. Just showing he is way, waaaay too busy to deal with things he's not called to or interested in. The ones who are proud are the ones acting like this guy is an idiot and that they know better than him what he should do with his life and ministry.
@ Nobody is saying Michael needs to write 300 books condemning Charismatic teachers, just that he be more willing to be more critical of those within his movement. Instead it often seems like Brown is way more willing to defend, and needs to be dragged kicking and screaming to be critical of certain teachers. The fact that there seem to be so few leaders/thought leaders within the charismatic movement willing to be critical towards itself while having many proven huge issues is worrisome. And despite Michaels claim that he's too busy, he's not too busy to defend a lot of these folks.
@ funny that brother brown is so busy with stuff that he has been a prominent figure in the online spiritual gifts debate for the last couple years. Did he in that time, condemn some of the worst false teachers, that are hurting believers and leading them astray?
Doesn't Dr. Brown teach that a born again believer can lose salvation? Doesnt such a person think they contribute to salvation based on what they do and not the finished work of Christ?
It boils down to the words appropriate and discretion.
Paul sums it for us very well in Galatians 1:10.
Are we supposed to point out what fails our appropriate list? With guileless opprobrium? With guileful opprobrium? Or, keep our mouths shut?
If he has time to defend the his charismatic positions and cohorts alike, then he has time to call out the blatant heresy that's clearly happening in the word of faith movement. Souls are on the line
Watch his video in full that shows just how busy he is. No one in the world has that type of time regardless.
And funny, I haven’t seen any videos from any of the major platforms calling out John MacArthur and his church for being documented abuse enablers. What bugs me is cessationists act like it‘a all about the crazy charismatics, but completely ignore their own garbage.
Good for Dr Brown with this video.
@@bellabelle6 If Brown has time to defend these people, he has time to condemn them, its as simple as that.
What's the bigger problem in the church right now? Reformed Baptist thinkers like John MacArthur? Or the Charismatic movement sweeping the globe? The answer is obvious.
Michael Brown is not prideful. His labor is full of prayer and concern for the Church and and the lost. He has a set of theological beliefs, but he is always open to discussion and debate like when he did his wonderful debates on Calvinism vs Arm. with James White. He always invites his students ans listenners to read, learn, research and pray.
I enjoyed that show
So many critics out there nowadays. Too many “I’m just called to be a watchdog” Christians who have little actual ministry experience or training.
People who claim to know god when god is unknowable .
@5:22 ... not the Ether soundclip! 😆
On a side note, is there a way we can get a copy of that painting of Jesus that Ruslan has in the background? Is that for sale anywhere? My wife really likes it and it be coo to get it for her bday. Anyway, God bless fam!
Michael Brown has all the time in the world to write his books, but he doesn't have the time to look into claims THAT HIS OWN SON IN LAW - Ryan Bruss - has made for over 10 years about him taking regular trips to Heaven AND Hell. Michael Brown was once asked about this on his own phone in show. His response - "I don't know the details". Is he actually for real?! He has time to write numerous books, yet his own Son in law (who worked on the Sid Roth show funnily enough for years), is making claims that Michael Brown himself disagrees with, but he "doesn't know the details" of a close family member making such absurd claims?! Oh the irony. This sums Michael Brown up. He has plenty of time to defend himself and his own opinions, but choses to look the other way when it comes to things HE KNOWS deep down are simply not biblical. Only one way to describe people like this - spineless.
Wow. Amazing. It's fine to disagree with Michael Brown or anyone else's views but I think that's really puts things in perspective about the things he has done for the lord whether you agree with his continuationist viewpoint or his view on the role of Israel in the present and in the future.
BRING OUT THE NEXT STACK 🔥