It's also a way of proving the concept that science is god. By way of technology that Walter can't fathom and, due to the last time loop has no interaction with, he gets an impossible sign from god. But he's seeking forgiveness from himself, in a way, because he's just trying to develop courage to tell Peter. He doesn't really want forgiveness, just an understanding that forgiveness is possible. He can't hear it from himself and it would sound hollow if someone told him, but an impossible sign would do it. Outstanding that technology and a series of logical events he can't understand provide him that sign. Perfect Fringe moment.
@@alexspindler1 The white tulip blew his mind. This is Dr. Bishop we're talking about too. There's no way he could know, and he'd never met Dr. Peck in that instance. Someone sending him a sketch that "God is real" or whatever satience it gave him, he was like awww man... fahhhk. It let him knew that everything would be ok in my interpretation. I have a .jpg of the white tulip on printed inkjet paper, taped on the wall in my kaputer room to this day as a reminder.
An egnostic once said to me God doesn't solve our problems God sends us people. I have always interpreted the tulip to have a double meaning God forgiving Walter and Peck telling him he was right. Funny enough I just noticed that Walter's story echos Adam and Eve. He tried to act as God and he broke the world. I find it fansinating.
while fringe won loads of emmies and was nominated for a metric ton of awards, the general public usually sleeps on scifi, its never mainstream enough, unless its starwars
@@kazumadesu4510 amazon prime, I believe. First season starts out as monster of the week, but is also laying the foundation in a huge way for the rest of the series. Season 1 cliffhanger is just AMAZING! Seasons 2 and 3 are MASTERCLASSES in writing and acting.
Science explains God's creation. I love Fringe. And Lost. My hope is that these stories will go down in history and epics of humanity. Similar to how Chronicles of Narnia and Lord of the Rings did.
I am still watching fringe and I am about to finish season 2. white tulip and peter are one of the best episodes I have seen, well actually the truth is that all the episodes I hav seen so far r awesome
i love this scene really stuck with me over the years Walter being a Faust like character trying to save a man from making the same mistake and seeking forgiveness deeds however good intentions
The random thing I like about this episode is that the guy who plays Peck played Robocop. Robocop was part man and part machine. Peck turns himself into part man and part machine. =)
I love shows like this when the great scientist falls from grace & finally understands the consequences of everything in the universe. This is my favorite of all time from the show, the line “I have traveled through madness to figure this out” is right on the dollar, perfectly sums up Walters entire character. The scientist who went through madness and almost destroyed the world. If you guys know more shows or movies who have this same plot or character realization pls tell me, i love movies/shows about people seeing/doing the most craziest things. The quote about madness reminds me of Oppenheimer, Octavia blake from the 100, Simon Petrikov from adventure time, etc. simon is a brilliant demonstration of this quote. He quite literally become someone else in his pursuit of history
Walter assuming God is a man because he thought himself god and did untold damage to another world and is still punishing himself While Peter Weller's character who ultimately makes the right choice assumes god is a force of good not a singular being Later when he gets the Tulip I believe Walter starts to believe the latter
Don't know if you're joking or being serious, but I believe the U.S. Govt discourages shows that provoke imagination, and are more than happy to let Americans watch more crap like Jersey Shore. The Dumbing-Down of America ----- believe it folks. Ron Paul 2012.
What's really freaky, is that this whole show is based on the String Theory, which not only includes the possiblity of multiple parallel universes. But dictates that the universe, all universes, are made of sound. More specifically, different frequencies of sound. That's why in the show, our universe vibrates in the key of "C", and Walternate's universe in the key of "G". But hold onto your tinfoil hats folks. Because this is the part where God comes in. John 1:1 in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The "Word", of course. Is sound. As in String Theory sound. And as God is science. We now therefore know, that God Spoke, the world into existence. And that as the Bible says the "Word is God". So too we know God is Everything. Which explains God's Omnipresence. It all fits! Fringe is not just a TV show. It's Real! Which is rather comforting. I mean, just think about it. Somewhere, in another universe. You didn't make the same mistakes you did in this universe. Of course, you would have made other mistakes. So I'm assuming, that in the end. Every version of ourselves, from each different universe. Will come together to form one perfect being, just like God. (As incredible as that may sound.) But, and lastly. If you follow Jesus as I did. And actually watch what he does. You will find that nothing He did, was outside the laws of physics. After all, God is science!
The "sound" thing is an analogy, it isn't literal, strings vibrating at different frequencies for different particles. Frequency X is an electron, frequency Y is an up quark, and so on. There's a bit more to it than that.
Yes like how a programmer enters statistical value or that which imparts mass=the manifestor of this ai construct-simulation akin to quarantine for programs.
You know, now that we're able to simulate universes in computers, we've discovered that ANY tampering with the universal constants, or the laws of physics as we know them, results in at best a universe unconducive to life. Usually no universe at all though. Things had to work a certain way to get this, and as part of it we're bound to them. That's why God doesn't perform parlor tricks, or wave magic wands to make all the problems disappear.
One of the best episodes of one of the best series ever. This scene is so beautiful.
The mere fact that this episode was referenced WAY later in the series finale was brilliantly written.
The scene in the car with his wife right after this blew me away, this whole episode was incredible, one of the best series on tv.
One of THE MOST powerful scenes in Fringe.
I love Walter's words and perspective. Thanks for posting this, gb. :)
I just can't seem to stop rewatching this show. In my top 5 for sure. Brilliant acting by John Noble throughout it all
Peck sending the white tulip to Walter in the end... ironic he would be playing God. I found this episode touching and thought provoking.
It can also be viewed that in the end he did what God wanted him to do or that in the end he became part of God.
However is not a real tulip. Only God can create a real one. Maybe stating that Man is an artificial god
It's also a way of proving the concept that science is god. By way of technology that Walter can't fathom and, due to the last time loop has no interaction with, he gets an impossible sign from god. But he's seeking forgiveness from himself, in a way, because he's just trying to develop courage to tell Peter. He doesn't really want forgiveness, just an understanding that forgiveness is possible. He can't hear it from himself and it would sound hollow if someone told him, but an impossible sign would do it. Outstanding that technology and a series of logical events he can't understand provide him that sign. Perfect Fringe moment.
@@alexspindler1 The white tulip blew his mind. This is Dr. Bishop we're talking about too. There's no way he could know, and he'd never met Dr. Peck in that instance. Someone sending him a sketch that "God is real" or whatever satience it gave him, he was like awww man... fahhhk. It let him knew that everything would be ok in my interpretation. I have a .jpg of the white tulip on printed inkjet paper, taped on the wall in my kaputer room to this day as a reminder.
An egnostic once said to me God doesn't solve our problems God sends us people. I have always interpreted the tulip to have a double meaning God forgiving Walter and Peck telling him he was right. Funny enough I just noticed that Walter's story echos Adam and Eve. He tried to act as God and he broke the world. I find it fansinating.
Best scene in the entire series
It was already a good series but the open introduction of intelligent theology into the mixture left me dumbstruck.
this scene + 80's peter story episode = the best TV show of all time
Haven't you seen the episode where Walter and Peter both watch a tape Walter made for Peter.
"Grief can drive people to extraordinary lengths." - Dr. Walter Bishop.
Best episode of the entire series. This was a masterpiece
Could someone please explain to me why this episode didn't win dozens of awards?
I was thinking of the same thing, this episode is amongst the best around in sci fi.
while fringe won loads of emmies and was nominated for a metric ton of awards, the general public usually sleeps on scifi, its never mainstream enough, unless its starwars
Its science fiction. Mainstream won't ever really pay that kind of attention to it.
Im 1 decade late but where can i see full of this series/movie
@@kazumadesu4510 amazon prime, I believe. First season starts out as monster of the week, but is also laying the foundation in a huge way for the rest of the series. Season 1 cliffhanger is just AMAZING! Seasons 2 and 3 are MASTERCLASSES in writing and acting.
God is Science. I love this episode so much, and this is the best scene, with the ending when Peck send the white tulip to Walter
One of my all time favourite scenes across any tv show ever!! "but he is god!"
Science explains God's creation. I love Fringe. And Lost. My hope is that these stories will go down in history and epics of humanity. Similar to how Chronicles of Narnia and Lord of the Rings did.
One of my favorite episodes :)
I miss this show ;(
So beautifully acted, especially by the incredible John Noble. Thanks so much for posting this scene!
This is the best episode of all the series ever, period.
"But he's God..."
If God is science,God is himself,
white tulip a sign from God,the other scientist...
remarkable scene....
john nobles acting in fringe is one of the best collective dramatic performances ever filmed.
Great scene, two very talented actors putting on a clinic in realistic but intense interaction.
I am still watching fringe and I am about to finish season 2. white tulip and peter are one of the best episodes I have seen, well actually the truth is that all the episodes I hav seen so far r awesome
It's bullshit! There's a conspiracy against sci-fi dramas. One of the best episodes of any show I've ever seen.
agree
Two masters at work.
The tulip at the end broke me.
Very delight episode as jacksonville and petet
This episode made me cry. It was beautiful.
You betcha. (I was there when it originally aired and I'm right along with you.)
He wasn't asking him to leave her there to die. He was telling him to die with her, together.
i love this scene really stuck with me over the years Walter being a Faust like character trying to save a man from making the same mistake and seeking forgiveness deeds however good intentions
My favorite scene from my favourite episode. This show, and especially John Noble, never got the recognition they deserved.
The random thing I like about this episode is that the guy who plays Peck played Robocop. Robocop was part man and part machine. Peck turns himself into part man and part machine. =)
Check out weller explaining how he got that single episode role. It'll make you love it even more
Epic conversation. Humanistic but not melodramatic. Thought provoking but not pretentious. Civil but oddly tense.
Powerful episode...
Never looked at it like that, and didn't know that context either.
Thanks !
There are other good episodes but this one is art.
I was 5 years old when this happened
I love shows like this when the great scientist falls from grace & finally understands the consequences of everything in the universe. This is my favorite of all time from the show, the line “I have traveled through madness to figure this out” is right on the dollar, perfectly sums up Walters entire character. The scientist who went through madness and almost destroyed the world. If you guys know more shows or movies who have this same plot or character realization pls tell me, i love movies/shows about people seeing/doing the most craziest things. The quote about madness reminds me of Oppenheimer, Octavia blake from the 100, Simon Petrikov from adventure time, etc. simon is a brilliant demonstration of this quote. He quite literally become someone else in his pursuit of history
Love this episode😭
Man John Noble is so damn cool I hope I can say hi one day
Resonates better w/ every day
"Lowest common denominator"
It's a term that is applied to people as well.
They should start a religion around those words... " God is science. "
This is beautiful 😍
John Noble como o “cientista louco Dr. Walter Bishop” e o Peter Weller que interpretou o primeiro Robocop
This is the Fringe version of Person Of Interest episode If then Else
Walter was an example of overreach
Must be great to be a sci fy actor. You always travel trough time or become a cyborg
A white Tulip from Robocop
sorry to nit-pick but this was S02E18.
Thanks I corrected it.
Walter assuming God is a man because he thought himself god and did untold damage to another world and is still punishing himself
While Peter Weller's character who ultimately makes the right choice assumes god is a force of good not a singular being
Later when he gets the Tulip I believe Walter starts to believe the latter
To you all faceless nameless people
Let this be your sign
Chose hapiness
Don't know if you're joking or being serious, but I believe the U.S. Govt discourages shows that provoke imagination, and are more than happy to let Americans watch more crap like Jersey Shore.
The Dumbing-Down of America ----- believe it folks.
Ron Paul 2012.
After 2016, I'm questioning everything.
What's really freaky, is that this whole show is based on the String Theory, which not only includes the possiblity of multiple parallel universes. But dictates that the universe, all universes, are made of sound. More specifically, different frequencies of sound.
That's why in the show, our universe vibrates in the key of "C", and Walternate's universe in the key of "G".
But hold onto your tinfoil hats folks. Because this is the part where God comes in.
John 1:1 in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
The "Word", of course. Is sound. As in String Theory sound. And as God is science. We now therefore know, that God Spoke, the world into existence. And that as the Bible says the "Word is God". So too we know God is Everything. Which explains God's Omnipresence.
It all fits! Fringe is not just a TV show. It's Real! Which is rather comforting. I mean, just think about it. Somewhere, in another universe. You didn't make the same mistakes you did in this universe.
Of course, you would have made other mistakes. So I'm assuming, that in the end. Every version of ourselves, from each different universe. Will come together to form one perfect being, just like God. (As incredible as that may sound.)
But, and lastly. If you follow Jesus as I did. And actually watch what he does. You will find that nothing He did, was outside the laws of physics. After all, God is science!
The "sound" thing is an analogy, it isn't literal, strings vibrating at different frequencies for different particles. Frequency X is an electron, frequency Y is an up quark, and so on. There's a bit more to it than that.
😭
Gondor is mine and none other's!
one of the few good scenes in this series.
I believe you meant many
@@soulsemblance3163 ya same
la adam kafayı sıyırmış iyicene. kopmuş.
god created science
Yes like how a programmer enters statistical value or that which imparts mass=the manifestor of this ai construct-simulation akin to quarantine for programs.
You know, now that we're able to simulate universes in computers, we've discovered that ANY tampering with the universal constants, or the laws of physics as we know them, results in at best a universe unconducive to life. Usually no universe at all though. Things had to work a certain way to get this, and as part of it we're bound to them. That's why God doesn't perform parlor tricks, or wave magic wands to make all the problems disappear.
A great episode but it kind of plagiarizes Ludo's "Broken Bride"
Because this universe sucks