I actually like this Edge ST. It's not perfect, but with enthusiasts in mind I think it's one of the most well-rounded crossovers on the market. It pretty much does it all and makes little to no compromises with its performance, while still being fun in a "you just got smoked by a Ford Edge" way. It probably should be called the Edge Sport, ST-Line, or Edge SHO, but whatever. If you don't want to shell out $40-45k for one wait a few years, throw a tune on it, and decimate all at race wars.
Great review. It's nice to see 1) A UA-camr whom looks at the car in the perspective of what it's intended to be 2) A UA-camr that actually knows how to set a car up in a corner then flow through it. As an ex NASA track driving instructor used to 1.0g + cornering I'm thoroughly impressed at how much I can get away with in the corners in my Edge ST. You can feel the torque vectoring erase understeer on heavy right footed corner exits and that's pretty darn cool to do in a 4200 lbs crossover. BTW, you're one of 2 UA-cam reviewers I know of who's even mentioned feeling the torque vectoring effects. Pretty much all the others except the guy who took it to a track day limit their "Sporty" driving to flooring it for about 3 secs in a straight line. I got this car to replace our beloved but aging Saab 9-3 2.0 T Sport Combi wagon and could not find a wagon I liked to replace it. This is as close as I got to car like balanced handling / responses and lack of rolly polly ride in a quiet and comfortable road trip vehicle for my family of 4. With end of the year deals I also got just under $10K off the sticker + 0 % financing making my near 50K sticker priced car less than $40K. All and all a great deal for a car that's more fun than any SUV / Crossover stickering for less than $65K on the market today.
Currently have a 16 Edge Sport. Just drove today 700 km from Ontario to Mont Tremblant in Quebec. This vehicle is practical and can carry four people and luggage with comfort for all. Has a suite of convenience and safety features galore. The Sync 3 works extremely well with voice prompts so you don’t need to fiddle with controls. More than enough power to pass in any situation safely. Is excellent when fitted with winter tires in adverse weather conditions. It is not quite up to European fit and finishes but most North American products have similar shortcomings. It’s a sporty SUV and the V6 is a great power plant where most offerings come with 4cylinders now. It’s not cheap but haggle on the price, buy a demo or wait a year or so to buy used with some warranty. A Macan S is a wonderful machine but will come in at 20K more with equivalent options.
The edge sport is a good vehicle no doubt✅ That said the Food EDGE ST is FAR SUPERIOR in EVERY WAY That and I don't know what the deal is with the one he's showing with the SMALL WHEELS and TIRES my 2019 ST came with 21 INCH RIMS and TIRES all BLACKED OUT With the most BEAUTIFUL BLUE that I've seen on a Ford maybe ever In my opinion it is a LUXURY GO KART if you will This thing HANDLES LIKE NO OTHER and has POWER to BURN with IT'S INDUSTRY LEADING 2.7 ECOBOOST TWIN TURBO ENGINE that no doubt PUNCHES WAY ABOVE ITS WEIGHT
We bought a new 2019 edge st in the spring of 2020 and my wife and I love the car. This car is excellent when entering the freeway, stops quickly, and goes from 65 to 80 in the snap of a finger. The car responds! Since I am not a car enthusiast, I can't get into the nuance of shift points and stuff like that, but my sons, who are drivers liked this car a lot. One of the things I like about the 2019 is that the monitor is smaller. If I want to look at a monitor, I will stop and use a pad or laptop.
Thanks so much for such an open minded unbiased review on the ST. Soooo much hate, so it was nice to hear a sensible review that didn't really try to compare a crossover to a car. Some folks need or want a crossover that moves and handles well, and this is it. Keep up the great work!
To all those out there who buy based on magazine articles, I'm telling you don't. I just test drove one and to the idiots who say the sport is quicker I say they're foolish. The ST has much more torque down low, it handles better and actually has a better ride. As far as price goes the leftover Sport they had retailed for high 48k and the ST was low 49k. I was actually quoted 42k which I thought was fabulous. The biggest surprise to me was how good the ride actually was. Probably will be my next vehicle.
I agree. Also, that's a typical Ford these days. My friend has as 2013 Escape and every time you hit a bump plastic parts in the car that don't fit correctly rattle around. I think he's getting paid by Ford to say good things in this one lol
I know. The Americans always get so much more powerful cars than us. I'm jealous. Their accord v6 had 280hp and their camry's have 300. We have vuxhall diesels
@@colelockridge5816 Yeah I know. All we have is diesel this, diesel that. Even their Ford Kuga, called Ford Escape in the US has 245 hp, and the best we get is a 2.0 litre diesel.
I haven’t driven one but I remember sitting down in one and thinking just how gross and cheap the center stack looks. It’s just a giant slab of black plastic. Like they could’ve at least given it a coat of paint of some sort. It’s just feels so cheap
This is a M plate car, i.e. manufacturers plate, it should be a pre-production car, some fit and finish issues is normal. I bought one few weeks ago, I didn’t experience any of these and enjoy it very much. It is a non-bias review.Just don’t compare it with Focus ST or RT because it is not a sport car.
Charles Ko so many of these guys forget that. Those M-Plates are always the first off the line while they’re still figuring it out. It’d be interesting to compare that to one sitting on the lot at a dealer today.
I looked at a lot of different things in detail before I got one of these ($43k fully loaded). After a month with it, I have no regrets. Apart from the base Stelvio, which is way smaller and less comfortable, I found nothing in its price range that can out-perform it.. The RDX A-Spec and new Blazer RS have nothing on it. It’s a good car. Sure, in its price range you can get something this size with nicer fit and finish, but you you won’t have as much fun it.
This is the perfect vehicle for going out with family and friends. Great for long distance driving, plenty of room and comfortable. With enough power and handling to have a fun time when driving.
@@jeffcheng5058 when I get a new Edge it will be the ST I just was not sure on the turbo and the 2.7 at that time. I have the SEL AWD 3.5 and I love it. The ST is in my sights tho next time around.
@KMac No I would never own a gm again with the recent issues I had with them on their newer cars. I wouldnt own a ford either, they seem to have too many problems too. I may go Honda next, new passport is interesting.
I bought one and it give a smile on my face each time I drive it! It feel solid and I i let it on Sport mode and I do not use the paddles shifters and it works great! I had a 2016 Sport and you feel the differences right away! Better acceleration, suspension, handling and adherence. And no problems with the new transmission, it work perfectly! And better fuel consumption. No vibrations from the hood. The cabin is very quiet. And by the way in my point of you it is really worthy of the ST badge! No matter what others may think!
It work great and it makes a difference in the fuel consumption in a good way. Some has complain about hesitation sometimes but I did not experience it. It work perfectly. I have read a comment on someone else who bought one too and he was very happy with his ST and no complaints. No matter how Ford manage to build this transmission the important thing to keep in mind is it work.
It 100% should not have an ST badge. It's the same type of shit that Mitsubishi pulled when they brought the Eclipse name back for their new garbage crossover, just on a much shorter time scale. Before this hunk of shit, the ST badge meant small and fun hot hatchbacks paired with a manual transmission. But Ford decided to remove those from America because people are obsessed with giant crossovers here, so this Edge feels like a slap in the face to us with good STs. Oh well, Ford is now dead to me.
sexy mama 11.6 liters/100 km or 20.28 MPG combined. That is near of what it’s supposed to do. And here it’s still cold, so the consumption will be better when the temperature will rise. Cf www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/PowerSearch.do?action=noform&path=1&year1=2019&year2=2019&make=Ford&baseModel=Edge&srchtyp=ymm
I own a '17 Focus ST and I probably wouldn't mind the ST badge on this Edge if Ford still came out with the Focus and Fiesta ST's but since those vehicles won't be coming to the States anymore, I feel like the badge is kind of being diluted by "loosely" applying it to vehicles that really have no business being specialized as "performance" oriented. Yeah sure, the Edge ST is fast but it's still a heavy, bloated people hauler that's built for comfort and convenience, not a raucous, superb handling, zippy hatchback that's made to handle roads and tracks with aplomb. Yet Ford wants to convince you that the Edge ST (and the upcoming Explorer ST - really?) is the next generation of performance and handling, which is probably no different than the Edge Sport. I'll still keep my Focus ST. I can haul my family and all our stuff when needed but when I'm by myself, I can hit the back roads with plenty of performance AND handling and have way more fun than doing that than in a ST pretender. I don't hate the Edge ST. I just don't think it deserves that badge.
I’m really intrigued with how the transmission shifts now since you mentioned the 2nd and 3rd gear ratios. Would you be interested doing a video with the camera closer to the tach and doing driving around to see show it? Regular driving and aggressive driving? I currently have a 2017 fusion sport and while I love the car, the torque converter holds back too much power for the area I live in. Small city and with lots of hills and lights.
TheTopher I watched SG’s video. Night and day between his review and yours. It was almost as if he was embarrassed to be reviewing a ford. And yup. I cant spot the 2 3 shift under full throttle. I was hoping the 8 speed DNA came from the 10 speed. I recently had an expedition max as a rental car for 5 days. For being an abused rental car I love it. 10 speed and the 3.5 are a great combo.
In sport mode it either skips 2nd or it is unnoticeable. In drive it will sometimes buck between 2 and 3 at very light throttle for a moment before making up its mind. At moderate to heavy throttle I have never noticed any concerns. After 1000miles I noticed higher boost even with 87 octane. Switched to 89 and shift issues decreased. Going to go 93 next fill and see if the 2/3 shift smoothes out more.
I got a fully loaded 2019 edge st, performance blue with the upgraded brake package., and I love it. Also own a 2016 challenger hellcat, and in contrast the edge is still a fun daily driver with plenty of power, and torque. People love to cry, and complain in the comment section, but in the real world none that matters. Half of these people don't vote with their wallet anyways, and are the first to bitch about so, and so car being discontinued. Deal with it.
Came to say the same thing. Ford's Achilles heel right now is simply the oudated looking/feeling interiors of all their cars, even the newly redesigned Expedition. Test drove a new F150 Lariat and it was alright, but then going over to check out a RAM and seeing the interior and feeling how much better it drove, I drove home in a RAM instead of the Ford.
Are you kidding me? Only class in which Ford does make good vehicle is F 150 and possibly Mustang. Everything else is terrible, road turds with cheapest interior in US market. And they usually rank in bottom 25% in reliability.
@@thedriver5462 - You're definitely biased against Ford for no logical reason. It's okay to be wrong. Ford makes excellent vehicles when compared to the garbage that GM and Chrysler makes.
Why do you think I am being biased against Ford? I have had 10-11 different brands over the years including 3 Fords, EU spec Transit and Mustang S197 and Ford Taurus 2013 once I moved in the States. So I don't really have reason not to like Ford but they really don't make excellent vehicles. Their interiors are crap(probably worst in the industry ) and reliability is below average. Not that GM or Chrysler are any better but that doesn't say much , does it?
@@thedriver5462 - There's a reason why Ford never took a bailout either, so... They're the best American brand you can get today. What else am I supposed to say? I'm not going to lie and say their garbage because they simply are not garbage.
So yea dealers are selling these most additional options MSRP 50k with discounts down to 42K if you shop. I'm thinking ppl don't like the boxy appearance. Fit and finish it's a Ford!
I really like this car. Some say it doesn't live up to what an ST should be. They're forgetting this is a much bigger car and will never be able to handle like a Focus ST does. When the Explorer ST comes out, the Edge will feel like a real sports car by comparison. The people that are making a big deal out of a few gaps that may be a little off obviously never looked closely at cars like Focus ST or RS or Fiesta ST. The fit and finish on those are far worse and people are mourning the loss of those.
I've found these around 33-40k brand new and that's a good deal for new Edge ST if you look around. I'm considering one if the numbers look good out the door.
It's so disappointing coming from my own Edge, it sounds so beefy and even beefier after a CAI/Air resonator removal. But...the 2015+ Edge sports are just so much quicker
@@DeadofWinter321 agreed. Gimme the Audi SQ5. Real refinement. I don't want to try an afford a 2020 sq5. I have different priorities right now. But I have a b7 Audi S4, and this is the first time I've really had a car I get excited about walking up to every morning. It's just so smooth and powerful compared to the American vehicles I've owned.
Only reason I’d probably grab that ride is the audio. If you’re like a family man, audio engineer and other shit like that it’ll be dope. Cause most people won’t be able to use the audio to it’s potential. This car is shit compared to other choices, but just like anything niche appeal sells.
Love your reviews - I know you've reviewed both this & Honda Passport - which seems very similar in form & function. I love to drive but need the size/utility.. In 2021 - which would you choose?
I'm a Ford owner myself (Fusion) but for $50k? That's stretching it for an Edge. Also I'm not a fan how they used the ST badge on a big midsize SUV - they should have badge it as an Edge Sport (like the Fusion Sport) and it would probably have received better.
... It's heavy, feels heavy, has an isolated sense to it, the full leather seats will be slippery with little bolstering (the alcatara middle might help reduce the slipperyness); and I believe Ford dorked up the transmission by going cheap. [see the review by savagegeese]
K03sport+ I believe some people were complaining that the bolsters were too much for some reason, but it’s an SUV.. So handling isn’t on par but it’s pretty good for the SUV segment, the Macan handles fairly better.. But that’s a compact SUV, this is a midsize SUV and has more weight than the Macan. I do agree on the transmission, 2nd and 3rd are pretty much just the same, so it’s technically still a ‘6 Speed’. But I don’t find the seats slippery, I test drove one of these ST’s in town took it through some corners and went up an on ramp at speed, my butt doesn’t really slip from the seat. Maybe it’s just the kind of pants people where that makes the leather so slippery for them.
Actually, I believe this is a slap in the face of car enthusiasts. Ford takes away ST/RS cars from the US, then sticks ST badges on a bloated SUV to ease the pain. So much wrong with this car and then there's the price. Should we expect an Escape ST (or RS) or an EcoSport ST (help us all) to fill the void in Ford's street performance segment. Mustangs are cool, but not for everyone...neither are CUVs /SUVs.
Not saying I'd spend that much on a Ford.. but the Edge interiors are really nice actually, as I work for a rental company and drive these all the time. It's in need of a redesign though.
Exactly my thought. For 50k, you expect a much better interior than you get with this car. Hell just look at the Explorer. THAT interior feels like a 40-50k dollar car on the highest trims, and it's in Ford's lineup!
I know but companies who usually sell a lot of their cars to rental agencies tend to make cheap interiors to save some money and make more profit.(Toyota is good example ). My wife had 2013 Taurus and it is very similar in design to new Edge and they even share a lot of interior parts, switches etc. I am not bashing Ford here but 6 years later they shouldn't put so similar interior in their 50k performance CUV. Other issue is strange disgusting smell of interior materials. Both Fords we had (Taurus and Mustang) had that issue and they start to smell bad only after 4-5 months of ownership. Currently we have CX5 that is 2 years old and interior is good as new.
This is the all new Taurus SHO......sits a few inches higher, it's now a HATCHBACK and not a sedan, and the renamed it the Edge ST. I'm game.....no complaints.
Does this have electronic dampers like the fusion sport did? This seems like the fusion sport replacement, being that they're getting out of the sedan business..
I'm searching for a replacement for my Tundra and so far it has narrowed to 2021 or newer Edge ST or Explorer ST. Watching your videos has helped but for the feel, as you talked about in this video, what are your thoughts directly comparing these?
The ambified noise on this 2019 Ford Edge ST sounds a lot better than the Ford Fusion sport. Almost sounds like the Nissan VQ V6 noises. When it’s ambified.
If you want a performance SUV this size just buy the Jeep Trackhawk. It may not be as cheap but the interior is nicer and it will be reliable because the engine uses an old design.
kobalt.seven The trackhawk engine is reliable honest to god. It has a classic push rod engine built in Windsor Canada which is known for their car build quality. It also uses a Transmission made by the same company that makes Toyota’s transmissions.
I like the interior of the Edge and always have. I almost bought one in 07 when they came out, but they didn't offer cooled seats then so bought an MKX . You can already buy this for at least $4k off sticker, so nobody should be paying $50k.
If they could get rid of the stupid sound, or at least make it optional. I'd seriously consider buying one next year when i'm due.. I'd instantly remove the tailgate ST badge and black out the one on the grille if it couldn't be removed... It definitely should've been called a sport. People complain about the look of the interior, it's not THAT bad and the seats are nice.. If an interior functions well and is comfortable, the looks of it don't really matter to me.
I'm sorry but this thing is just unacceptable for the money they are asking. One journalist put it like this: "They took an ST badge and slapped it on a crossover to see if it would sell." Their US marketing team obviously doesn't understand what that badge is supposed to be marketed toward. The Fiesta ST and the Focus ST are cars where effort was made to make them fun and engaging giving average buyers access to performance cars. The Edge is not affordable and to be quite honest an insult to their enthusiast customers.
Savage Geese said it best, "Thanks but no thanks". The only people who would defend this are Ford loyalists who'd buy anything they put their logo on. For a stupid box, it doesn't even justify its existence over their cheaper premium trims. Put an Edge ST up against any AMG or M offering...yeah, exactly. It's a dumb comparison because this thing is slower, bland looking, outdated, and a terrible value for the money spent. AMG or M might cost a good bit more, but you actually get something for that. At $35k this would maybe appeal to more, but Focus STs were $23-24k and often discounted from that. What genius at Ford thought to replace their previous more value conscious car with an overpriced one that most of those buyers can't afford and won't spend? The cross section of buyers who'd even care about what this thing is trying to do and those who'd be willing to pay it is so small as to have not even been worth the lazy effort Ford put in throwing some ST badges on an Edge Sport and shoehorning in extra gears lazily into an existing transmission so they could say it had more speeds. That's some '50s-60s era lazy cost cutting engineering.
That guy is all opinion and he obviously hates this car. The real boss is Alex On Autos. He states mostly actual statistics and facts in his reviews and keeps opinions to a minimum.
I actually like this Edge ST. It's not perfect, but with enthusiasts in mind I think it's one of the most well-rounded crossovers on the market. It pretty much does it all and makes little to no compromises with its performance, while still being fun in a "you just got smoked by a Ford Edge" way. It probably should be called the Edge Sport, ST-Line, or Edge SHO, but whatever. If you don't want to shell out $40-45k for one wait a few years, throw a tune on it, and decimate all at race wars.
Oh, and I forgot - Ford, give us the new Fiesta ST.
Idc what anyone thinks, edge is trash
I’m probably just gonna buy a pre owned Edge Sport. The ST isn’t worth the price increase in my opinion.
Mike M dude, but a focus st or rs, why would you even waste money on a “sport” suv
J Y I already own a Mazdaspeed3. So something that is not too boring and can handle baby duty leads me to an Edge Sport.
Great review. It's nice to see 1) A UA-camr whom looks at the car in the perspective of what it's intended to be 2) A UA-camr that actually knows how to set a car up in a corner then flow through it. As an ex NASA track driving instructor used to 1.0g + cornering I'm thoroughly impressed at how much I can get away with in the corners in my Edge ST.
You can feel the torque vectoring erase understeer on heavy right footed corner exits and that's pretty darn cool to do in a 4200 lbs crossover. BTW, you're one of 2 UA-cam reviewers I know of who's even mentioned feeling the torque vectoring effects. Pretty much all the others except the guy who took it to a track day limit their "Sporty" driving to flooring it for about 3 secs in a straight line.
I got this car to replace our beloved but aging Saab 9-3 2.0 T Sport Combi wagon and could not find a wagon I liked to replace it. This is as close as I got to car like balanced handling / responses and lack of rolly polly ride in a quiet and comfortable road trip vehicle for my family of 4. With end of the year deals I also got just under $10K off the sticker + 0 % financing making my near 50K sticker priced car less than $40K. All and all a great deal for a car that's more fun than any SUV / Crossover stickering for less than $65K on the market today.
The other being Tedward? If he has a vid on this car
Currently have a 16 Edge Sport. Just drove today 700 km from Ontario to Mont Tremblant in Quebec. This vehicle is practical and can carry four people and luggage with comfort for all. Has a suite of convenience and safety features galore. The Sync 3 works extremely well with voice prompts so you don’t need to fiddle with controls. More than enough power to pass in any situation safely. Is excellent when fitted with winter tires in adverse weather conditions. It is not quite up to European fit and finishes but most North American products have similar shortcomings.
It’s a sporty SUV and the V6 is a great power plant where most offerings come with 4cylinders now.
It’s not cheap but haggle on the price, buy a demo or wait a year or so to buy used with some warranty. A Macan S is a wonderful machine but will come in at 20K more with equivalent options.
The edge sport is a good vehicle no doubt✅ That said the Food EDGE ST is FAR SUPERIOR in EVERY WAY
That and I don't know what the deal is with the one he's showing with the SMALL WHEELS and TIRES
my 2019 ST came with 21 INCH RIMS and TIRES all BLACKED OUT With the most BEAUTIFUL BLUE that I've seen on a Ford maybe ever
In my opinion it is a LUXURY GO KART if you will
This thing HANDLES LIKE NO OTHER and has POWER to BURN with IT'S INDUSTRY LEADING 2.7 ECOBOOST TWIN TURBO ENGINE that no doubt PUNCHES WAY ABOVE ITS WEIGHT
Used to work for enterprise and honest the edge along with the explorer were probably my two favorite cars to drive
We bought a new 2019 edge st in the spring of 2020 and my wife and I love the car. This car is excellent when entering the freeway, stops quickly, and goes from 65 to 80 in the snap of a finger. The car responds!
Since I am not a car enthusiast, I can't get into the nuance of shift points and stuff like that, but my sons, who are drivers liked this car a lot.
One of the things I like about the 2019 is that the monitor is smaller. If I want to look at a monitor, I will stop and use a pad or laptop.
Thanks so much for such an open minded unbiased review on the ST. Soooo much hate, so it was nice to hear a sensible review that didn't really try to compare a crossover to a car. Some folks need or want a crossover that moves and handles well, and this is it. Keep up the great work!
To all those out there who buy based on magazine articles, I'm telling you don't. I just test drove one and to the idiots who say the sport is quicker I say they're foolish. The ST has much more torque down low, it handles better and actually has a better ride. As far as price goes the leftover Sport they had retailed for high 48k and the ST was low 49k. I was actually quoted 42k which I thought was fabulous. The biggest surprise to me was how good the ride actually was. Probably will be my next vehicle.
5:54 sorry, but once I've seen something that doesn't fit correctly I'm never gonna be able to let it go.
I agree. Also, that's a typical Ford these days. My friend has as 2013 Escape and every time you hit a bump plastic parts in the car that don't fit correctly rattle around. I think he's getting paid by Ford to say good things in this one lol
If you're that fussy, you need to spend far more than this car costs.
@@maxburgess7040 or he could be saying what he thinks about it
@@maxburgess7040 you need to test drive one bro. Seriously they are damn good.
The most powerful Edge we get in UK is the 2.0 diesel with 240 hp. Shame we will not get the ST.
I know. The Americans always get so much more powerful cars than us. I'm jealous. Their accord v6 had 280hp and their camry's have 300. We have vuxhall diesels
@@colelockridge5816 Yeah I know. All we have is diesel this, diesel that. Even their Ford Kuga, called Ford Escape in the US has 245 hp, and the best we get is a 2.0 litre diesel.
But you guys do get the coolest wagons like the RS6 Avant or M5 Touring ;)
@@frooz442 Yes you are right! The wagons we get are awesome!
Yes but personally i'd love to have that diesel option in the USA. The ST is nice but this one is instantly overrated by it's name.
I haven’t driven one but I remember sitting down in one and thinking just how gross and cheap the center stack looks. It’s just a giant slab of black plastic. Like they could’ve at least given it a coat of paint of some sort. It’s just feels so cheap
This is a M plate car, i.e. manufacturers plate, it should be a pre-production car, some fit and finish issues is normal. I bought one few weeks ago, I didn’t experience any of these and enjoy it very much. It is a non-bias review.Just don’t compare it with Focus ST or RT because it is not a sport car.
Charles Ko so many of these guys forget that. Those M-Plates are always the first off the line while they’re still figuring it out. It’d be interesting to compare that to one sitting on the lot at a dealer today.
Every car is different. Yours probably just doesn’t have issues yet o
...2015 Edge Sport, certainly one of my favorite SUV's. Drive one for a few days and you will agree.
A great review, by the way.
I looked at a lot of different things in detail before I got one of these ($43k fully loaded). After a month with it, I have no regrets. Apart from the base Stelvio, which is way smaller and less comfortable, I found nothing in its price range that can out-perform it.. The RDX A-Spec and new Blazer RS have nothing on it. It’s a good car. Sure, in its price range you can get something this size with nicer fit and finish, but you you won’t have as much fun it.
This is the perfect vehicle for going out with family and friends. Great for long distance driving, plenty of room and comfortable. With enough power and handling to have a fun time when driving.
Road trips are amazing in my edge ST- extremely roomy, great feel of interior, and gobs of power on 93
@@jeffcheng5058 when I get a new Edge it will be the ST I just was not sure on the turbo and the 2.7 at that time. I have the SEL AWD 3.5 and I love it. The ST is in my sights tho next time around.
$50,000!!?? I would so much rather have an explorer for that much. I think ford is completely out of their mind with that price.
KingMacintosh seriously man, I completely agree.
And they wonder why no one bought their sedans and hatchbacks
Look at the description, it has the msrp
@@m1abrams1776 i think most ford on the road are leased
@KMac
No I would never own a gm again with the recent issues I had with them on their newer cars. I wouldnt own a ford either, they seem to have too many problems too. I may go Honda next, new passport is interesting.
Exterior is a Ford focus hatch second generation design
I actually like the pumped in audio, i think its a cool idea
I bought one and it give a smile on my face each time I drive it! It feel solid and I i let it on Sport mode and I do not use the paddles shifters and it works great! I had a 2016 Sport and you feel the differences right away! Better acceleration, suspension, handling and adherence. And no problems with the new transmission, it work perfectly! And better fuel consumption. No vibrations from the hood. The cabin is very quiet. And by the way in my point of you it is really worthy of the ST badge! No matter what others may think!
What do you think about the transmission performance? Its 90% the same as the Sport's with 2 new gears sandwiched among the previous 6.
It work great and it makes a difference in the fuel consumption in a good way. Some has complain about hesitation sometimes but I did not experience it. It work perfectly. I have read a comment on someone else who bought one too and he was very happy with his ST and no complaints. No matter how Ford manage to build this transmission the important thing to keep in mind is it work.
It 100% should not have an ST badge. It's the same type of shit that Mitsubishi pulled when they brought the Eclipse name back for their new garbage crossover, just on a much shorter time scale. Before this hunk of shit, the ST badge meant small and fun hot hatchbacks paired with a manual transmission. But Ford decided to remove those from America because people are obsessed with giant crossovers here, so this Edge feels like a slap in the face to us with good STs. Oh well, Ford is now dead to me.
How about the gas I'm thinking of getting one
sexy mama 11.6 liters/100 km or 20.28 MPG combined. That is near of what it’s supposed to do. And here it’s still cold, so the consumption will be better when the temperature will rise. Cf www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/PowerSearch.do?action=noform&path=1&year1=2019&year2=2019&make=Ford&baseModel=Edge&srchtyp=ymm
Loving the reviews man! Keep it up!!
$50k can also get you a Mustang GT 5.0, or if you wanted another performance SUV for the price the Grand Cherokee SRT with more performance.
Fruitably YT yeah thing is you will never pay 50k for it. Fully loaded max you’re paying is 43k
A Cherokee srt is a lot more. Not even in the same ballpark. For SRT money you can buy a nice SQ3 or BMW M3i40
You can get a Mustang GT for like $30k new...or with options (premium+performance pack) for like $37-38k. $50k for an Edge ST is NUTTY
T V wait what.... a gt350 doesn’t compare with a crossover in any way. This is daily driver door knob
who told you is 50k. i bought one ，Top configuration and tax included.45k LOL
I own a '17 Focus ST and I probably wouldn't mind the ST badge on this Edge if Ford still came out with the Focus and Fiesta ST's but since those vehicles won't be coming to the States anymore, I feel like the badge is kind of being diluted by "loosely" applying it to vehicles that really have no business being specialized as "performance" oriented. Yeah sure, the Edge ST is fast but it's still a heavy, bloated people hauler that's built for comfort and convenience, not a raucous, superb handling, zippy hatchback that's made to handle roads and tracks with aplomb. Yet Ford wants to convince you that the Edge ST (and the upcoming Explorer ST - really?) is the next generation of performance and handling, which is probably no different than the Edge Sport.
I'll still keep my Focus ST. I can haul my family and all our stuff when needed but when I'm by myself, I can hit the back roads with plenty of performance AND handling and have way more fun than doing that than in a ST pretender. I don't hate the Edge ST. I just don't think it deserves that badge.
I have a 2013 Edge Sport with
200,000mi and it’s been amazing! Im looking to get the ST Next!
This is the most reliable 2 row SUV I have ever seen:)!
I’m really intrigued with how the transmission shifts now since you mentioned the 2nd and 3rd gear ratios. Would you be interested doing a video with the camera closer to the tach and doing driving around to see show it? Regular driving and aggressive driving? I currently have a 2017 fusion sport and while I love the car, the torque converter holds back too much power for the area I live in. Small city and with lots of hills and lights.
check savagegeese's video
@@TheMrRadish ditto
TheTopher I watched SG’s video. Night and day between his review and yours. It was almost as if he was embarrassed to be reviewing a ford.
And yup. I cant spot the 2 3 shift under full throttle. I was hoping the 8 speed DNA came from the 10 speed. I recently had an expedition max as a rental car for 5 days. For being an abused rental car I love it. 10 speed and the 3.5 are a great combo.
In sport mode it either skips 2nd or it is unnoticeable. In drive it will sometimes buck between 2 and 3 at very light throttle for a moment before making up its mind. At moderate to heavy throttle I have never noticed any concerns. After 1000miles I noticed higher boost even with 87 octane. Switched to 89 and shift issues decreased. Going to go 93 next fill and see if the 2/3 shift smoothes out more.
Paddles are great for downshifting downhill especially in snow/ice
I got a fully loaded 2019 edge st, performance blue with the upgraded brake package., and I love it. Also own a 2016 challenger hellcat, and in contrast the edge is still a fun daily driver with plenty of power, and torque. People love to cry, and complain in the comment section, but in the real world none that matters. Half of these people don't vote with their wallet anyways, and are the first to bitch about so, and so car being discontinued. Deal with it.
So true!
Voice recognition is excellent on the Edge. A helluva lot better than the German counterparts.
This interior looks SOO OOOOLLLDDDDD
Came to say the same thing. Ford's Achilles heel right now is simply the oudated looking/feeling interiors of all their cars, even the newly redesigned Expedition. Test drove a new F150 Lariat and it was alright, but then going over to check out a RAM and seeing the interior and feeling how much better it drove, I drove home in a RAM instead of the Ford.
The fake engine sound sounds like an Infiniti Q50 Red
It reminds me of the 2F&F Nissan Skyline lol dunno why but yeah
I wish they would’ve kept a v6 option for at least one version of the edge besides the ST the turbo 4 as a standard engine is disappointing
Would wait till refresh I think. That engine noise is the deal breaker for me though, the Honda V6 like in the pilot is so much better sounding.
Would love to see a final impressions video on the Genesis G70!
These ride so good.
Ford really does make some fantastic, solid vehicles. This vehicle is a perfect example.
Are you kidding me? Only class in which Ford does make good vehicle is F 150 and possibly Mustang. Everything else is terrible, road turds with cheapest interior in US market. And they usually rank in bottom 25% in reliability.
@@thedriver5462 - You're definitely biased against Ford for no logical reason. It's okay to be wrong. Ford makes excellent vehicles when compared to the garbage that GM and Chrysler makes.
Why do you think I am being biased against Ford? I have had 10-11 different brands over the years including 3 Fords, EU spec Transit and Mustang S197 and Ford Taurus 2013 once I moved in the States. So I don't really have reason not to like Ford but they really don't make excellent vehicles. Their interiors are crap(probably worst in the industry ) and reliability is below average. Not that GM or Chrysler are any better but that doesn't say much , does it?
@@thedriver5462 - There's a reason why Ford never took a bailout either, so... They're the best American brand you can get today. What else am I supposed to say? I'm not going to lie and say their garbage because they simply are not garbage.
So yea dealers are selling these most additional options MSRP 50k with discounts down to 42K if you shop. I'm thinking ppl don't like the boxy appearance. Fit and finish it's a Ford!
You should respect ford chris, because it is based in detroit, michigan in US
Assuming there are pretty big incentives on these it might not be a bad buy. But yea no ones actually dropping 50k. More like low 40’s on this spec.
I agree, I bought mine for under 42k and MSRP was 50k. There is nothing that is comparable and in this price range.
For 50k you could have a used Macan Turbo...
A 50k Porsche without sunroof and heating seat... big no
50k for the brand buddy and it aint even new
Would be a total money pit. Not worth it for the badge.
@@caglioso true
oh man
Lovely review, I'm saving up for an Edge ST! Beautiful car!
I really like this car. Some say it doesn't live up to what an ST should be. They're forgetting this is a much bigger car and will never be able to handle like a Focus ST does. When the Explorer ST comes out, the Edge will feel like a real sports car by comparison. The people that are making a big deal out of a few gaps that may be a little off obviously never looked closely at cars like Focus ST or RS or Fiesta ST. The fit and finish on those are far worse and people are mourning the loss of those.
BEAUTIFUL MORE. I LIKE THIS FORD EDGE ST. CONGRATULEITION TO FORD BYSNIS.
make a video of a Ford Taurus SHO
I've found these around 33-40k brand new and that's a good deal for new Edge ST if you look around. I'm considering one if the numbers look good out the door.
In this particular edge it looks like the fusion in SUV roots
A lot of the complaints is not something I actually care about lol. I still love Ford.
You guys are crazy this thing is fast as hell it outran my v6 charger
Amazing that a Chevy Blazer can sticker for 55k. For the class, just under 50k is a decent price, but an Explorer Platinum is a short stretch.
It pulls hard up top very well
This thing felt like a tank to drive in the front end (compared to the CX5)
But the CX5 is too ugly to own.
@@Tuesdaysgonewtw bruh
That fake sound is so fake.
It's so disappointing coming from my own Edge, it sounds so beefy and even beefier after a CAI/Air resonator removal.
But...the 2015+ Edge sports are just so much quicker
Nice, any chance u will do one for the Ford Escape too?
For 50k you can buy a jeep grand Cherokee Cherokee SRT
Anything made by FCA is junk though. You're better off taking the bus or riding a bike to your destinations.
DeadofWinter321 and the Ford Edge st isn’t junk?
@@DeadofWinter321 agreed. Gimme the Audi SQ5. Real refinement. I don't want to try an afford a 2020 sq5. I have different priorities right now. But I have a b7 Audi S4, and this is the first time I've really had a car I get excited about walking up to every morning. It's just so smooth and powerful compared to the American vehicles I've owned.
Grand Cherokees are actually very reliable
@@m1abrams1776 - It's not. Ford is the most reliable American brand you can buy on the market today. GM and Chrysler are not what they used to be.
Only reason I’d probably grab that ride is the audio. If you’re like a family man, audio engineer and other shit like that it’ll be dope. Cause most people won’t be able to use the audio to it’s potential. This car is shit compared to other choices, but just like anything niche appeal sells.
They handle better with the 21" and summer tires
Every July you can get Fords at employee price with big discounts, still wouldn't buy one
why.. im not a car guy, any commendations?
It has the same features as my 2019 hyundai santa fe ultimate 2.0 turbo AWD. Mine has also wireless charging. It only cost $39,450
Jose Arambula just the 100 HP you’re missing😂
@@ctheath42 i live in a city.dont need 100 hp.
The edge st also has wireless charging.
The exterior is sexy, the interior looks like from early 2000s.
Ford fiesta ST was about 21k, focus ST 26k, RS 36k, rebadged edge sport 50k hahahahah
Vanneker the RS was 41k. Almost the exact same starting price as the edge st
But 50k is msrp and you usually won’t be getting the car without discounts
Love your reviews - I know you've reviewed both this & Honda Passport - which seems very similar in form & function. I love to drive but need the size/utility.. In 2021 - which would you choose?
I have an edge ST and my sister just bought a Honda passport. Near identical @ 18MPG but edge ST is way more fun
Love your audio system tests, how about some of America's National Treasure, jazz! Miles Davis Kind of Blue
Fords are getting better and better, what’s toxic is the dashboard on my momma that looks ugly
I'm a Ford owner myself (Fusion) but for $50k? That's stretching it for an Edge. Also I'm not a fan how they used the ST badge on a big midsize SUV - they should have badge it as an Edge Sport (like the Fusion Sport) and it would probably have received better.
Mr. Topher, what's it gonna take to get you to hop into a GTI?
This thing handles pretty good, for an SUV.
... It's heavy, feels heavy, has an isolated sense to it, the full leather seats will be slippery with little bolstering (the alcatara middle might help reduce the slipperyness); and I believe Ford dorked up the transmission by going cheap. [see the review by savagegeese]
K03sport+ I believe some people were complaining that the bolsters were too much for some reason, but it’s an SUV.. So handling isn’t on par but it’s pretty good for the SUV segment, the Macan handles fairly better.. But that’s a compact SUV, this is a midsize SUV and has more weight than the Macan. I do agree on the transmission, 2nd and 3rd are pretty much just the same, so it’s technically still a ‘6 Speed’. But I don’t find the seats slippery, I test drove one of these ST’s in town took it through some corners and went up an on ramp at speed, my butt doesn’t really slip from the seat. Maybe it’s just the kind of pants people where that makes the leather so slippery for them.
In 2025 hearing him say a focus at will always exist 😢
Actually, I believe this is a slap in the face of car enthusiasts. Ford takes away ST/RS cars from the US, then sticks ST badges on a bloated SUV to ease the pain. So much wrong with this car and then there's the price. Should we expect an Escape ST (or RS) or an EcoSport ST (help us all) to fill the void in Ford's street performance segment. Mustangs are cool, but not for everyone...neither are CUVs /SUVs.
lmao I watch too many of these throughout the day
Almost 50k for the generic crossover with terrible rental car interior? No thanks.
Not saying I'd spend that much on a Ford.. but the Edge interiors are really nice actually, as I work for a rental company and drive these all the time. It's in need of a redesign though.
Exactly my thought. For 50k, you expect a much better interior than you get with this car. Hell just look at the Explorer. THAT interior feels like a 40-50k dollar car on the highest trims, and it's in Ford's lineup!
Yeah you can get a used mercedes for 30 and its 100x better
U know rental cars are actual cars right?
I know but companies who usually sell a lot of their cars to rental agencies tend to make cheap interiors to save some money and make more profit.(Toyota is good example ). My wife had 2013 Taurus and it is very similar in design to new Edge and they even share a lot of interior parts, switches etc. I am not bashing Ford here but 6 years later they shouldn't put so similar interior in their 50k performance CUV. Other issue is strange disgusting smell of interior materials. Both Fords we had (Taurus and Mustang) had that issue and they start to smell bad only after 4-5 months of ownership. Currently we have CX5 that is 2 years old and interior is good as new.
I would rather have a loud exhaust instead of quiet inside
I can’t seem to find all of these 50k Cherokee srt 8’s eveybody seems to mention on EVERY st video....
😂I also can’t find these $50k Edge STs, they’re all low to mid 40’s
Hey bro!
Where are you from?
My 2016 mustang msrp was 44k. And it has a hood shake.. it's a feature. That's how you know that you're moving. Lol
Ford’s contemporary shaker hood 😂
Even the rental Explorer's hood I had flopped all over the place. Reeks of cost cutting.
This is the all new Taurus SHO......sits a few inches higher, it's now a HATCHBACK and not a sedan, and the renamed it the Edge ST. I'm game.....no complaints.
Exactly.
I love these videos. You should start doing some super cars ;)
What do you mean by "fit and finish of the Japanese..."???
I like this car it's me I loved to buy one for myself
Does this have electronic dampers like the fusion sport did? This seems like the fusion sport replacement, being that they're getting out of the sedan business..
The new Ford Edge is decent. But not a huge fan of the ST. I feel like the Sport was better
I’m an avid fan of Chrysler (don’t murder me) but even I draw the line at Ford’s build quality. Holy crap these things are made poorly
I'm searching for a replacement for my Tundra and so far it has narrowed to 2021 or newer Edge ST or Explorer ST. Watching your videos has helped but for the feel, as you talked about in this video, what are your thoughts directly comparing these?
How it Look like
The ambified noise on this 2019 Ford Edge ST sounds a lot better than the Ford Fusion sport. Almost sounds like the Nissan VQ V6 noises. When it’s ambified.
Your suond is amazing
review the kia telluride sx
My dude, why do you still have an iPhone 6?
Exclusive Beats why not? And thats a 7 plus
@@DimoBoychev On the screen it says iPhone 6
Iwould like to buying one of this car I would love to have one of my own from Albany ga Ford sunbelt.
If you want a performance SUV this size just buy the Jeep Trackhawk. It may not be as cheap but the interior is nicer and it will be reliable because the engine uses an old design.
Joel Repass nothing Chrysler makes is reliable, dude...
kobalt.seven The trackhawk engine is reliable honest to god. It has a classic push rod engine built in Windsor Canada which is known for their car build quality. It also uses a Transmission made by the same company that makes Toyota’s transmissions.
@@joelrepass2379 The 2.7 Ecoboost has been around long enough to be proven reliable. For the price of a Trackhawk, you could almost buy 2 Edges.
66skate I am just saying if you want a real performance SUV. The Edge st is a waste of money if you are looking for one
I like the interior of the Edge and always have. I almost bought one in 07 when they came out, but they didn't offer cooled seats then so bought an MKX . You can already buy this for at least $4k off sticker, so nobody should be paying $50k.
In Austria you pay for the normal Ford edge 72.000€ the ST isn't available in Austria 😅that's crazy
Same interiour as in Ford S-MAX in Europe.
The AC section pretty much like Subaru
50K? ... 8 More K and you can get Model 3 Performance or For 10k more, Model Y performance.
Why 50,000$ instead of getting this you can get a Explorer 2020 st by 50,000$
I would much rather have a Transit Connect ST.
Yes
If they could get rid of the stupid sound, or at least make it optional. I'd seriously consider buying one next year when i'm due.. I'd instantly remove the tailgate ST badge and black out the one on the grille if it couldn't be removed... It definitely should've been called a sport. People complain about the look of the interior, it's not THAT bad and the seats are nice.. If an interior functions well and is comfortable, the looks of it don't really matter to me.
You can probably turn off the fake sound thru a hidden menu somehow
@@zro2gon Unfortunately not! Hoping someone can hack it.
I'm sorry but this thing is just unacceptable for the money they are asking. One journalist put it like this: "They took an ST badge and slapped it on a crossover to see if it would sell." Their US marketing team obviously doesn't understand what that badge is supposed to be marketed toward. The Fiesta ST and the Focus ST are cars where effort was made to make them fun and engaging giving average buyers access to performance cars. The Edge is not affordable and to be quite honest an insult to their enthusiast customers.
Can lease one right now for $360 a month 0 down. Quit complaining
Woooow .. cool car 😯
When are auto manufacturers going to stop putting a heated wheel button behind a touch screen, and instead put it on, oh i dont know, THE WHEEL?
I have a 2012 for edge SEL an it looks allot better then the 2019 model
Savage Geese said it best, "Thanks but no thanks". The only people who would defend this are Ford loyalists who'd buy anything they put their logo on. For a stupid box, it doesn't even justify its existence over their cheaper premium trims. Put an Edge ST up against any AMG or M offering...yeah, exactly. It's a dumb comparison because this thing is slower, bland looking, outdated, and a terrible value for the money spent. AMG or M might cost a good bit more, but you actually get something for that. At $35k this would maybe appeal to more, but Focus STs were $23-24k and often discounted from that. What genius at Ford thought to replace their previous more value conscious car with an overpriced one that most of those buyers can't afford and won't spend?
The cross section of buyers who'd even care about what this thing is trying to do and those who'd be willing to pay it is so small as to have not even been worth the lazy effort Ford put in throwing some ST badges on an Edge Sport and shoehorning in extra gears lazily into an existing transmission so they could say it had more speeds. That's some '50s-60s era lazy cost cutting engineering.
That guy is all opinion and he obviously hates this car. The real boss is Alex On Autos. He states mostly actual statistics and facts in his reviews and keeps opinions to a minimum.