At the time I watched in HORROR and could understand the obsession. Same with Sex and the City which I found so vapid and just could not understand how women couldn't see through the push to consumerism. Just look at how men cosplay women, all of them are acting like shopping, makeup, fashion, designer labels and hair is all we think about. They equate femininity with vapidness and consumerism. Women's artistic expressions are disposable, flushed down the sink every day when the makeup is washed off. That ensures we never make anything for ourselves with permanence - no let's leave that to the capitalists, we'll just keep on polluting and flushing our time and money down the drain to look pretty. Please dear women, spend your artistic gifts on things that last longer than a day and a picture. Please make something permanent with love for the people you love and love you back. It is such a deep token of affection, usually way more precious than a bought gift.
Couldn't have written it better. She always had an ego, and felt she deserved the elite life. - she stalked and harassed every job,date, celebrity! Even got entangled with Bill Cosby. - i bet he said no! And she kept pushing until she came up with a story she could could tell To seem INVOLVED at all cost! Im sorry that was rude! But Janice isnt a good soul! But nor is tyra!
I was OK with the apology, I saw her when she did celebrity rehab. For the record I don’t think that was the best of shows either (hindsight 2020) however, she was abusing drugs that were hard core, most likely during her time on top model. From what I understand there was a change in her after she got sober, by which I mean she stop being a hot mess. That doesn’t excuse anything she did or said, but my take away from it was, she knows she can’t change the past, she knows she can’t write off anything she did during that time exclusively on drug use, she just has to accept responsibility. Plus in the years since she has come to terms with being raped by bill Cosby. As such I think she’s in a different place with regards to how she views the power of words and their impact on women.
I just thought I was spelling apologize wrong my whole life and had to google it! So you must be from the UK or Canada ey! Am I dumb for not knowing this at 42!?
The title of the video should be: ‘Top Model’ contestants are there but are not given any screentime to talk show’s legacy amid social media backlash | Nightline
period - is why I clicked on the vid - not to hear them talk incessantly about why looking at the show through 2024 eyes it was so wrong - this breaking down of all the non woke things shows from the past used to do or failed to do is very tiired
@@lonelyenchantress2172 It wasn’t even good TV for me. In Tyra’s mind, she didn’t like the way that Tiffany responded after elimination. Tyra’s mistake was assuming that Tiffany’s reaction meant that she didn’t care. When in actuality, we all express pain and rejection in different ways. She didn’t allow Tiffany to grieve in Tiffany’s way. And instead, she created a traumatic moment for that poor young lady.
Same. This changed the way I looked at Tyra. It was as if they wanted Tiff to be balling in tears and screaming, which is weird of them. Like how do you tell someone how to deal with rejection? Strange
Tiffany looks like the butch lesbian who’s serving prison time for murdering her John. I’m js maybe Tyra was a little right to yell at her. I was rooting for you Tiff!😭
Doesn't have to. A majority of girls in NDA expired interviews gush about how they love Janice and acknowledge how she actually looked out for them and actually cared about and actually talked to them when cameras were not rolling unlike some other people.
What's crazy is that the show was actually inclusive at the time. She put attention on folks who otherwise would not have been viewed kindly in the beauty community.
Thank you. The show was extremely diverse and she did choose plus size models, but it is rare in the industry to see that in runway. It has nothing to do with the modeling agencies. Brands/Companies typically do not hire plus models to represent their brand because of body/tape measurements. It's the same way with runway shows....designers do not generally hire models from modeling agencies who do not fit the height and body/tape requirements. It has to do with designers worrying about models not showing up to the runway or photoshoot; or a model gaining or losing weight on the day of the runway show or photoshoot. The desinger has to immediately have one of the other models fit into the clothes as there is not a lot of time to make adjustments. For example, if the model gained weight the designer cannot add on more fabric. If the model, lost a significant amount of weight, the designer may have to cut or pin in a lot of fabric and even then the garment may not hang the way the designer wants it to on the model. This is why there are height and and body/tape measurement requirements. It's about keeping the models uniform and interchangeable. It's not really about weight like people say. In fact, if you go to any major modeling agency, they want to know your measurements and not your weight and they post their measurement requirements on their website for runway and print/commercial. I know this because I modeled years ago. I never had to be a certain weight (as weight looks different on everyone). Just be the required tape measurements. Maybe this has changed, but the agency and the designer still do tape measure the models for the clothes. Even for plus size models, measurements are important. They are going to want them all have the same bust, waist and hip measurements. Also for plus size models they all generally gave flat stomachs, and a bust and hip size that is proportionate to their height and figure. Have you ever seen the plus size mannequins. They have flat stomachs. It's like the difference between Naomi campbell and Megan the Stallion. Both beautiful women. One is slim and one is plus size, but they both have proportionate figures and flat stomachs. The case could be made to bump up the body/tape measurement requirements. However, I still suspect even if designers and agencies are ok with this they are still going to want all models to fit that new measurement requirement and no more for the reasons I stated above.
You’re right, that’s honestly the craziest part. Looking back, knowing that THAT was considered diversity/breaking the industry… and still with how problematic it was… phew
You’re right, that’s honestly the craziest part. Looking back, knowing that THAT was considered diversity/breaking the industry… and still with how problematic it was… phew
Keenyah is such a true example of resilience and reinventing yourself through it all. Her success with pose coaching, among other accomplishments, is amazing 🏆🏆🏆
Tiffany had a rough lifestyle before joining Top Model. Tiffinay was asked by Tyra to come back the second Cycle because Tyra believed in her; Believed in her beauty, Believed in a better future
If popularity is the only benefit you value in life, sure. But many, many, many of the top models went on to become legit models for years afterwards...and then married into a privileged life.
As a 32 year old Black woman who watched and loved this show as a preteen, they were only EXPOSING the industry but they were too early for people to actually care. That’s how I look at it. Since I’m an adult now I can peep and understand the problematic things but unfortunately the industry has barely changed. Yes we see more acceptance but barely. Rihanna is probably one of the few folks moving things forward with her diversity with the models that she chooses.
Well even back then, Ken Mok claimed (co-creator) that ANTM was created to bring more diverse models yet the show just kept hiring models with one specific body type: tall and skinny.
But this is the problem, you want the industry to change where it doesn't even need to change for anybody. Gucci, Versace, YSL make record profits every single year because that is the style, fit and look that people want. I just don't get why people feel there that there "needs" to be a change
I was completely obsessed with this show as a kid. Tbh it’s a good thing that we’re recognizing that yeah, it was really problematic. I’m curious to know how many people in these comments ACTUALLY watched the show.
I watched it. I thought thank God I was a few inches too short to follow that dream. It was interestingly foolish. Eva the diva is still ruling on TV though.
Not everything ages well... but at the time, it was extremely popular. I may not have agreed with everything they did on the show but it did positive things as well. It's still legendary in my book!
I look at Top Model like the movie white chicks it was golden for that era and back then folks didn’t have the knowledge they do now. It deserves every accolade it got back then and as a black girl I loved every minute of it and as a black woman in 2023 we know not to do that ish again….it is what it is 😂
Yup as a teen I never realized anything of it was bad. But omg the way we have advanced as a society and knowing more knowledge on things. We know tf better for sure!
What a disgusting take, top model did nothing but discriminate and deter Darkskin women from succeeding. There are countless episodes that degrade the models skin color !
“It’s a reality show, HELLO?!” - should have told the contestants. The amount of top designers and photographers in that show didn’t treat it as a reality show. Tyra Banks introduced it as a competition for models and the price was a career in modeling. Don’t tell us it was something else..again Janice not taking any accountability for her actions. These beautiful women were bullied and broken down, made to believe they were not trying hard enough, had to suffer severe body image problems and now Janice wants to say HELLO?! it’s just theatre? That’s not good enough.
"not trying hard enough" 🙄 "had to suffer severe body image problems" Get a grip. They could've taken those lessons and found success anywhere else in life.
Actually, in comparison to the REAL modelling industry. ANTM was actually unbelievably progressive in terms of body image. I don't think you realise how brutal the real fashion industry is, especially in the early 2000s when these models were trying break into the industry.
I will keep it all the way 💯 I knew it was problematic...I did. I still watched it...I did. I remember when they did the "race swap" episode and my Mother walked in with my Auntie and said "what the...What the hell is Tyra doing?!" To which my Auntie (R.I.P.) without hesitation replied "She gon' getting somebody beat up." (Apparently it's herself 20 years later.)
I too knew back then it was problematic. I stopped watching the season with Eva and Yaya..... I don't think I even watched through the season, my sis begged me to watch the finale with her, and I did tho...... That was the last time
Honestly I had no issues with the ethnic swap for a photoshoot. She was challenging the women to embrace photography of themselves with another image to embody someone else. They captured all the ethnicities well and swapped everyone. Blackface and cultural appropriation is when you make a caricature of someone from a stereotype and do it to earn benefits that aren’t afforded to the actual ethnicities which was not the case when a diverse cast switch roles for a photoshoot on a modeling competition show 🙄 everyone was equally able to benefit and no one was made goofy looking
To when a woman was sexually assaulted on national tv and Tyra stood right there and watched or how bout the Afrikan model being discriminated against because her race, yea so long ago yet these same situations effect us still to this day every day
ANTM was my life as a teen since back in ‘07! I’m currently binge watching and on season 9- this show was ahead of it’s time, diverse, honest and fierce! I’m reminded how overly sensitive and delusional this world has become if you think this is toxic. I see why you girls hate men, hate other women secretly and yourselves so much- you think constructive criticism is racism, sexism and whatever other ism you want to be a victim of. They complimented those girls just as much as they critiqued them and when it was time to say “you’re not that girl you think you are” they did JUST that! But y’all think everyone’s a winner and any comment on someone is shaming them so we can never have a real conversation about this, you can’t handle the truth 🤷🏾♀️
It's fine to critique a show but also be balanced and acknowledge that that show was the first show to actually give real airtime and praise dark-skinned black women praise short people praise full figured praise different color skin praised differently abled, they had everybody coming on that show to try and dismantle all of the beauty industry standards so at least be fair when you critique the show nobody else was doing that then. PERIOD!
That show is filled to the brim with ableism, fat phobia, and racism/colorism. Having minorities showcased on television is great but when you proceed to humiliate them for their differences it is no longer uplifting.
Backhanded support is not support: the micro aggressions against the dark skinned women on that show were appalling (portraying them as ghetto, mean; hell, anyone who looked like Naomi Campbell was under the gun 😂) and I say that as a LSBW.
ya seriously!!!! it was a show hosted and developed by a beautiful black woman and the cast was diverse AF! I think times were simplier in the 2000s we were more connected and free. that show broke alot of boundaries and should be celebrated. not canceled by the new gens. even as an 11 year old wanting to go on top model i understood it was a show and it was more for exposure.
@J.E. Piper exactly!! Tyra was so problematic to dark-skinned women, devoted a whole cycle to exploiting shorter women, and even that one plus size winner Whitney got back handed praise. ANTM is the poster child for shows that simply don't age well. Like Little Rascals or something.
It wasn't revolutionary. If there was no bullying like a typical modelling agency then it's revolutionary. This show was toxic just like the fashion industry.
Something is only revolutionary if it leaves behind a positive legacy of positive impact by disrupting the archaic status quo. Not by leaving behind a trail of unearthed, unresolved problems. Don’t blame society for being more socially conscious now and using history to improve the present + future.
@@lionessstarseed6812 ANTM represented more races, ethnicities, sexualities, body figures, and disabilities than any other show I can think of that came out in the 2000s. It was not perfect but it broke down barriers for the models that we have today. Many of the girls have positive things to say about the show and say it was an overall good life experience, those are just not the statements that get amplified.
@@abbyolmsted7852 exactly only the women that were not successful have something negative to say. Eve and others are doing well and they are never interviewed.
I loved the commentary from the previous top models in this segment. They shared their experiences, their opinions, and where they are today. Thanks ABC 🙄
My problem with the shading of ANTM is the same people who were watching it every week are the same people saying it’s problematic. It was always problematic: the show and the industry. It still is. Don’t hate on just show hate on it all.
@@ineshadixon1377 well no. They tried to paint this narrative of "we are just being honest and we say this things for your own good". Which is an attitude a lot of adults take with children. So, no, as a 10 year old that was a very normalized experience for me.
I appreciate Janice’s honesty… the models of the 90s made a very tough and toxic industry look glamorous. Tyra and the other hosts pulled the curtain back. For as much negativity was on this show there was also a ton of positivity, it’s selective outrage, every reality show on at that time was super problematic through today’s lenses. The show was only successful because millions of ppl watched.
@@gladiatorinsweats I think we can agree to disagree, because the same ppl are still obsessed with the designers, photographers, and fashion houses that created such a culture. Reflection requires one to look inward not outward, the real question is why was millions of ppl glued to their television screens making this a top rated show for years. Ppl don’t get to such heights without public support. My point remains that TONS of ppl enjoyed the nastiness and toxicity of this show
@@gladiatorinsweats The thing is people like you can't "reflect" on the past without getting personal about it and acting as if it's hurting you in some type of way today. Judging the past with the morals of the present day is both dumb and pointless. You wouldn't want people in the future judging you for views and opinions that were quite popular for the time, so just accept things for what they were and move on.
@@kurapikakurta3863 Slavery is still normal today and I don't see you calling out those places that still do it. I guess you thought you were being slick with that comment, but you're not. 🙄
I love that Janice kept it real here. Let's not act shocked, we loved and liiiiiived for ANTM.... That was then. It happened, it's a different time now. Move on. It's in its time capsule and Tyra will always be a legend.
It was iconic and problematic… but I’m definitely not trying to go back to the mean spirited ass culture that was alive in 2006! The media was over brutal. Especially to women
@@MykelMontana this is what people in the entertainment and art field go through. Top Model barely touch the surface in my opinion watch documentaries on dancers, actors, and musicians it's brutal.
It wasn’t even just a new generation, watching it, those of us that grew up with it, and watched it again during that time period of the pandemic. When people started binging started to look at it as older women and say, why was this OK these were degrading moments. These were ridiculous. How can those girls be talked to like that? How can they be treated like that?
I think it is unfair to highlight Top Model as Toxic. These are the type of things that were said to my face in auditions and casting calls. Top Model was pretty accurate in how the fashion industry's mind set was at the time. What Top Model did unintentionally was pull back the curtain of what was like to work as a model to the general public, which i believe sparked reforms and views today.
Also, Tyra’s whole point was that she wanted the show to change the fashion industry and show that girls didn’t have to all look the same to be models, only to uphold the same toxic standards the show was supposed to be standing against.
Nothing was toxic about the show. Everyone isn't beautiful and everyone can't be a model. It's job with specific requirements. Everyone can't be doctor, lawyer or accountant. Should they change the requirements to be a doctor so people who aren't capable can become doctors. Like just remove the med school requirement altogether??
Can we mention how Eva Marcielle has been winning ever since she was on ANTM. She knew the deal & made it work for her. I wish they featured her in this story. ANTM has the early 2000s in a chokehold. I remember watching this in my college dorm faithfully. Looking back today, it’s like wow. Amazes me how we didn’t see certain things then.
I had the good fortune to be roomed with my bestie in college. We both caught colds at the same time and spent 3 days watching VH1 because they had a ANTM marathon running. We were achy, snotty, and miserable but had the best time watching this. It was interesting to see the photo shoots and we would go back and forth to one another about how harsh the judging was. But damn it was a great time and one of my fondest memories of college. I think models are awesome and have a cousin who auditioned for the show. I respect the grind but always had trouble wrapping my head around how cutthroat the industry was. Knowing what I know now about how poorly those girls were treated, idk if I could watch it now.
and Yaya Dacosta... Brie... The only ones compalining are the ones that didnt excel. Everything now is a problem.. soon we wont be able to speak or breathe without criticism.
people might find it problematic now but at the time it was amazing and is still one of my favourite shows! Tyra Banks did a lot for us growing up and really did change what it meant to be a model and reality star. we need to give Tyra her flowers tbh...
Oof the delusion. As someone who was a huge fan of the show, it's not just that people find it a bit problematic. It *was* problematic and dehumanizing. They preyed on young women who'd do anything to make it and mentally/physically harmed them to make lord knows how many millions for Tyra and her producers. I remember religiously watching the show with my mom and didn't understand why my mom (who worked in fashion) always seemed to pity the girls. She'd always make comments like 'damn all this stress and 99% are going to be forgotten, not supermodels', and she was right. There's a reason Tyra faded away from the spotlight when she could've been the next Oprah. She knew a time for atonement was coming. Flowers lol please.
ANTM was an era! I even auditioned to join the petite season and was so sad I wasn’t chosen. I understand it was problematic looking back at it, but it is what it is. I’d be a hypocrite to say Tyra needed to apologize when I looked up to her at some point in my life. It changed the lives of so many girls on that show. There are people who hated it and people who really thrived from it. Some of the winners still are extremely successful in their careers. Some are still models, others aren’t. Think about the time they opened the door for a transgender woman to be apart of the show. That was incredibly ground breaking at the time. ANTM may have had some bad moments, but there were also good moments too!
So did I in LA! 😅 The show was rough but I’m sure models deal with these antics and worse behind the scenes. This show just brought it to light and amplified it for ratings. It had 24 seasons!
Same. Yea some episodes were how they were but the girls could have left point blank and as we saw as the time progressed some of them weren’t beat and did left. They could have left and called it a day honestly I went to go and try out for the show but decided on college but I love Tyra and half the goals up there only did the show for Tyra anyway
It's true tho it's like the movies and shows we've watched as kids: white chicks, mean girls, clueless, bad girls club and more Offensive lines were part of comedy 😅 sad but true
ANTM was a direct reflection of the modeling industry. I loved the show and all its toxicity when it aired. And anything that airs on TV is meant to entertain and garner ratings.
I don't think it's beneficial to keep harping on the lack of political correctness on ANTM. Time has passed, apologies have been issued, what more can possibly be done? Just be thankful that the show ended. There's literally nothing else that we can do. Take it as a history lesson of what we used to do but don't want to repeat and keep it moving. People on TikTok are angrier than the actual contestants who were involved.
Again it’s easier for you to say this when you were not on the receiving end of the anti blackness l/bullying that was spewed towards the contestants. So no people don’t have to move on
THE FACE actually had the girls model . It came after but it was more accurate with the modelling industry than next top model . Moral of the story we never understood the impact this show would have on their lives after because we didn’t have the same type of social media . I feel sorry for them and those who grew up believing they weren’t good enough too model . Glad it’s changing now slowly but surely hopefully for the better . And Janice suffered from the industry as well she’s just too prideful to admit her wrongdoings . And finally they really used to sell that reality tv shows would be glamorous but fell in the same pattern as the others editing to create the mean and archetypes needed for these shows .
Tyra will be blamed for everything wrong with the show. In reality, I believe the production team played a role in turning the girls into clowns for entertainment.
I think people just don't like Tyra. That's fine but they need to say that. I don't see how ANTM was much different than other reality TV shows of it's time. Social media piles onto Tyra but have nothing to say about Gordon Ramsey, Simon Cowell and shows that had people eating bugs.
This right here. Thank you....they really need to slow up. Especially given that these beautiful chocolate sisters would have seen NO airtime at all if not for Tyra. Say your piece, but don't get stupid with it.
Um Tyra put girls in black faced and forced a legally blind model to walk an obstacle course run way without looking at the cat walk first. The models were very transphobic to Isis with no intervention and the amount of micro aggressions and racism towards the darker skin models was insane. That’s barely scratching the surface. Gordon Ramsey just yells at people…
Let's be honest people the only reason why any of us ever bothered to watch America's next top model was because of how brutally honest Janice Dickinson was about her opinions and feelings about not only how unattractive some of the contestants were but also about how much she absolutely hated her fellow judges ( especially Tyra)
I can honestly say as an 18 year old watching the show there were moments that made me feel greatly uncomfortable. I remember Tyra telling one girl that getting an education wasn't as important as being a model. I also remember how they treated the model that was Autistic and how insensitive they were. In fact when she got voted off I stopped watching.
We didn't see it as problematic because the term "WOKE" didn't exist yet??? Huh?? You don't need a coined term or trendy lingo to recognize toxicity. Oh, we absolutely saw it!! But we didn't have IG or Twitter to vent collectively. This whole thing was useless. 😒
Let’s keep it real people now days are to damn sensitive. They don’t like to hear the truth. Everyone gets hurt too easily about about anything and that’s how come they can’t make it out here in this world. Tyra, Naomi Campbell, Janice, Dickinson, Gia, Cindy Crawford, Linda Evangelista etc I’m sure had to go through many people saying and doing the same things to them and that’s why they have tough skin and have had a longevity careers, unlike the people nowadays
I agree but then I also feel like we don’t just accept the toxicity of what used to be because our industry’s titans made it through that so that means it’s good enough for me. I think it’s important to balance everything. Be more aware and conscious of your words.
That show was when I realizes Tyra was better when she just kept her mouth shut. I only watch the 1st season I just couldn’t not stand the show I saw it as problematic.
I hated Tyrant more than Janice. At least Janice doesn't fake 'we were all rooting for you', 'I'm your sista' but then makes disparaging comments and jokes about black hair and gap teeth. Tyrant is more disgusting and hypocritical. Janice you know how she is. I'd choose Naomi Campbell over Tyrant anyday
Not really. I kinda watch to just punch every one of those judges. Like the time they told a girl to just get over the fact one of the models she was posing with was sexually assaulting her. Or forced a girl to model in a grave after her best friend died
Truth be told it's likely none of us would know who you are or follow you without ANTM. Even though some models say it did nothing for them, if they increased popularity, ratings or followers after the show, it's because we became familiar with you on ANTM.
Social media followers doesn’t equal jobs. These girls had their reputations damaged in the actual modeling industry because of the show unless they went overseas. Plus for a lot of the earlier seasons social media really wasn’t a thing you could make a solid living off of yet unless you were a top creator and even then it was rare.
@@kennyb1588 it's a platform, with or without social media, do with it what you will. Exact same for ALL of these reality competitions. Stop bellyaching. The ones who were really good in terms of attitude, talent, looks, and intelligence, seem to have been successful at something related to fashion, modeling or entertainment. And the majority of these women didn't have any career to begin with so there was nothing to ruin. Everyone isn't going to be famous. Same with music and acting, the modeling industry doesn't take everyone.
I loved the show America's Next Top Model. It was a great show that she'd light on the modeling industry and provided an opportunity to bring in Black models and other models of different ethnicities. This was prior to social media when most people weren't as uptight as they are now. The show launched the careers of Ya Ya and Eva Marcelle who are now actresses.
@@StreamHypeBoyByNewJeans I think there is also a problem in ANTM, especially the issue where the production starve their models on purpose usually during photoshoots to capture dramas. But I agree with your statement, I also want to add that people should also realize that there is a generation gap. I was born in the mid 90s and when I was younger, I don't see most of their criticisms toxic, though a lot of them are sure toxic. The problem now are the mindset of people especially woke people in present time because they are overly sensitive about everything while most of them are just bunch of hypocrites because they complain and fight for something and yet, they are also saying horrible things without thinking and their "cancel" culture is extremely toxic.
@@StreamHypeBoyByNewJeansY'all always claim That addressing issues as being "woke", but these models themselves have been talking about the mistreatment they received on the show for YEARS
Janice Dickinson the Simon Cowell of the model world. She was being extremely rude for controversy. And controversy means viewers. She previously explained she was playing a character, she knew what she was doing.
Tyra was playing a 'character' of what 'WAS' the modeling world back then - There was a spacific look to get into modeling. However, Tyra Banks brought the modeling world to the world and gave people a chance. Don't get it twisted!
You just had to be there !! What a time to be alive . Me and my mama watched this every week ! Did not skip a beat honey . Lol so crazy how reality is sooo toxic that it’s not even real lol
That's how they are They don't get it 😅 all of the episodes are jokes and laughs but sad It's not their fault, covid and the system They created quarantine 🏘️ and those kids are bored, they're young, they wanna go out
Everyone was glued to the tv when this came on including myself 🤣. I wanted to hear from Tiff and what she’s been up to she looks like life took a toll on her but she looks healthy
You'll sit and watch black women be racially discriminated against, that's counterproductive or is it the fat shaming you liked. Or was it the episode a girl was sexually assaulted on national television
💌💯 TEAM TYRA! 🧡The modeling industry back then, was only for 'Skinny girls and little/no Black models'. I applaud TYRA BANKS for allowing BLACK MODELS, PETTIE MODELS, MALE MODELS, PLUS SIZE to all COMPETE AND WIN! This was a COMPETITION to win $100,000 CONTRACT and magazine spreads! Of course their would be challenges (In the 2000s); There was no 'SOCIAL MEDIA' then. People had to WORK back in the days; Now, everything is on 'Smart phones'. The girls were flown around the WORLD FOR FREE! LIVED IN A DECKED OUT HOTEL FOR FREE, they signed up for this competition, 24 cycles! STOP COMPLAINING and get on with your lives!! this is getting really boring now!! #TEAMTYRA💯💯💯💥
There was no 'Mean girl' culture - it's called being a 'BOSS' in what was the 'Modeling world' back then; There was only a certain look to be a model, Tyra aimted to help girls get jobs! This generation is lazy now because everything on 'Smart Phones'. This generation has no life so they binge watch old shows instead of getting out there and working! This is what was the modeling world back then! Educate your self!
Boy, the hyper sensitivity today is off the charts. Life is not supposed to appease your every need and feeling of validation and self worth, but if you feel that, you’re in for a rollercoaster of a ride in life. Any voids we feel in life, don’t go chasing them with fame, relationships or a career because they will be temporary moments of relief. we can’t stay blaming others when they don’t appease our needs.
100% agreed with Janice! She is not politically correct to try to say the right thing but she is most definitely correct. It is a reality show and nothing more than that
Man, when I tell you I was obsessed with top model lol. It’s good they are shedding a light on the reality of reality tv
@Jetblue Horizon this doesn’t make sense lol people can still highlight the realities behind being on a reality show
At the time I watched in HORROR and could understand the obsession. Same with Sex and the City which I found so vapid and just could not understand how women couldn't see through the push to consumerism.
Just look at how men cosplay women, all of them are acting like shopping, makeup, fashion, designer labels and hair is all we think about. They equate femininity with vapidness and consumerism.
Women's artistic expressions are disposable, flushed down the sink every day when the makeup is washed off. That ensures we never make anything for ourselves with permanence - no let's leave that to the capitalists, we'll just keep on polluting and flushing our time and money down the drain to look pretty.
Please dear women, spend your artistic gifts on things that last longer than a day and a picture. Please make something permanent with love for the people you love and love you back. It is such a deep token of affection, usually way more precious than a bought gift.
I used to get ready with my best friend and loved it, it was sooo good
@Jetblue Horizon oh my god didn’t think of it that way, that era had the best reality shows, New York, Flava Flav, can’t beat those
@Jetblue Horizon hahaahahahahahhaahha yessss. so true
Janice Dickinson is living proof that it doesn't matter how much surgery you have when you're ugly on the inside it'll always come through 💯
In the words of Nicki Minaj, "after all that surgery and you're still ugly and that's what gets me!"
Couldn't have written it better. She always had an ego, and felt she deserved the elite life. - she stalked and harassed every job,date, celebrity! Even got entangled with Bill Cosby. - i bet he said no! And she kept pushing until she came up with a story she could could tell To seem INVOLVED at all cost! Im sorry that was rude! But Janice isnt a good soul! But nor is tyra!
😂😂😂😂so true!!!!!!
Spooky Glam: 🤭🤪🤣🤣🤣
absolutely
It’s Janice Dickinson apologising without really apologising, for me
“I apologize if” 😂 like girl thats not an apology
I’m so glad her ass is still crazy as hell and alive 😂
I was OK with the apology, I saw her when she did celebrity rehab. For the record I don’t think that was the best of shows either (hindsight 2020) however, she was abusing drugs that were hard core, most likely during her time on top model. From what I understand there was a change in her after she got sober, by which I mean she stop being a hot mess. That doesn’t excuse anything she did or said, but my take away from it was, she knows she can’t change the past, she knows she can’t write off anything she did during that time exclusively on drug use, she just has to accept responsibility. Plus in the years since she has come to terms with being raped by bill Cosby. As such I think she’s in a different place with regards to how she views the power of words and their impact on women.
I like that she didn't apoligize. People are so soft now a days.
I just thought I was spelling apologize wrong my whole life and had to google it! So you must be from the UK or Canada ey! Am I dumb for not knowing this at 42!?
The title of the video should be: ‘Top Model’ contestants are there but are not given any screentime to talk show’s legacy amid social media backlash | Nightline
Because they spoke more positive about it than expected. They want the narrative that Top Model ruined generations of people.
period - is why I clicked on the vid - not to hear them talk incessantly about why looking at the show through 2024 eyes it was so wrong - this breaking down of all the non woke things shows from the past used to do or failed to do is very tiired
Right, where's the interview? Lmao. Thought there's a whole segment for them.
Right? Practically click bait
Tyra had an unjustified temper tantrum against Tiffany. I felt so bad for her in that moment.
Yes I started looking at Tyra differently after that. It made for some good TV but damn. 😬
@@lonelyenchantress2172 It wasn’t even good TV for me. In Tyra’s mind, she didn’t like the way that Tiffany responded after elimination. Tyra’s mistake was assuming that Tiffany’s reaction meant that she didn’t care. When in actuality, we all express pain and rejection in different ways. She didn’t allow Tiffany to grieve in Tiffany’s way. And instead, she created a traumatic moment for that poor young lady.
Unjustified?? She was right telling Tiffany off.
Same. This changed the way I looked at Tyra. It was as if they wanted Tiff to be balling in tears and screaming, which is weird of them. Like how do you tell someone how to deal with rejection? Strange
Side note, Keenyah and Tiffany are rocking the hell out of their short haircuts. Love it 🔥🔥🔥
Ikr? They look absolutely gorgeous!!!!
@@hairbytrea they have the faces for it for sure
They look beautiful! So do all of the young ladies. I would’ve loved to hear Tiffany‘s response to her question.😊✨👠🎈
Tiffany looks like the butch lesbian who’s serving prison time for murdering her John. I’m js maybe Tyra was a little right to yell at her. I was rooting for you Tiff!😭
Yesss, it's definitely the year of the pixie cuts for BW...and i love it❤️
"I was rooting for you! We were all ROOTING FOR YOU! How DARE you!!"
Will always live rent free in my head 💀
😆😩😄
Lol!!!
Sounds about right 😂😂😂
I agreed with Tyra at the time and I still do.
@@Lovelyone1 people cope in different ways. Her laughing didn’t make her ungrateful.
Starting an apology with “if I hurt you” that’s already NOT an apology…just saying 🤷♀️
...she doesn't need to apologize for a damn thing. All the sensitive folks of today can STFU 💯
@@mariemarie3614 🤟🤟
smh, it seems there's no right way to apologise anymore ... Whenever someone does it, people dismiss it with comments like this. So toxic.
@Helly XanHellz she doesn't need to but if shes going to, at least do it right.
Doesn't have to. A majority of girls in NDA expired interviews gush about how they love Janice and acknowledge how she actually looked out for them and actually cared about and actually talked to them when cameras were not rolling unlike some other people.
What's crazy is that the show was actually inclusive at the time. She put attention on folks who otherwise would not have been viewed kindly in the beauty community.
Thank you. The show was extremely diverse and she did choose plus size models, but it is rare in the industry to see that in runway. It has nothing to do with the modeling agencies. Brands/Companies typically do not hire plus models to represent their brand because of body/tape measurements.
It's the same way with runway shows....designers do not generally hire models from modeling agencies who do not fit the height and body/tape requirements. It has to do with designers worrying about models not showing up to the runway or photoshoot; or a model gaining or losing weight on the day of the runway show or photoshoot. The desinger has to immediately have one of the other models fit into the clothes as there is not a lot of time to make adjustments.
For example, if the model gained weight the designer cannot add on more fabric. If the model, lost a significant amount of weight, the designer may have to cut or pin in a lot of fabric and even then the garment may not hang the way the designer wants it to on the model. This is why there are height and and body/tape measurement requirements. It's about keeping the models uniform and interchangeable.
It's not really about weight like people say. In fact, if you go to any major modeling agency, they want to know your measurements and not your weight and they post their measurement requirements on their website for runway and print/commercial. I know this because I modeled years ago. I never had to be a certain weight (as weight looks different on everyone). Just be the required tape measurements. Maybe this has changed, but the agency and the designer still do tape measure the models for the clothes.
Even for plus size models, measurements are important. They are going to want them all have the same bust, waist and hip measurements. Also for plus size models they all generally gave flat stomachs, and a bust and hip size that is proportionate to their height and figure. Have you ever seen the plus size mannequins. They have flat stomachs. It's like the difference between Naomi campbell and Megan the Stallion. Both beautiful women. One is slim and one is plus size, but they both have proportionate figures and flat stomachs.
The case could be made to bump up the body/tape measurement requirements. However, I still suspect even if designers and agencies are ok with this they are still going to want all models to fit that new measurement requirement and no more for the reasons I stated above.
But the production abused & exploited the girls, all reality shows are fucking toxic.
You’re right, that’s honestly the craziest part. Looking back, knowing that THAT was considered diversity/breaking the industry… and still with how problematic it was… phew
You’re right, that’s honestly the craziest part. Looking back, knowing that THAT was considered diversity/breaking the industry… and still with how problematic it was… phew
It showed that no matter what race or size of model you were, everyone gets just as abused and bullied by Tyra Banks
Keenyah is such a true example of resilience and reinventing yourself through it all. Her success with pose coaching, among other accomplishments, is amazing 🏆🏆🏆
Correct me if I'm wrong but was she sexually assaulted during the show?
Where is the actual interview part (with the models)? 🤔 This video title/description is misleading 🙄
Yes very chaotic.
Yeah very disappointing, cuz that’s what we came to hear 🤦🏽♀️
VERY MISLEADING… they could’ve kept Janice 🙄
You gotta Stream it on theyre Streaming Platform HELLO?!?! Lol
Listen to me!!! I’d rather quit than fall short and be beating down!
I can’t believe I applied and went to auditions for this show! The lord was protecting me by not letting it happen 😭
Perhaps you just weren't pretty enough.
The girls who understood the show managed to make careers for themselves. It was harsh but also a good opportunity.
I stood on one of those lines too.. idly and idk what I was thinking 🤦🏽♀️
Girl God had nothing to do with it the lack of talent did lmfao
😂😂😂😂girl !!! I wonder what you are doing now I hope you doing great ❤
I still don't know why Tyra screamed at Tiffany
Tiffany had a rough lifestyle before joining Top Model. Tiffinay was asked by Tyra to come back the second Cycle because Tyra believed in her; Believed in her beauty, Believed in a better future
@@lepa2863 well said
I think Tyra was just invested in her and instead of telling her that in private she couldn’t hold it in.
Nah Tyra’s just a narcissist. Simple
@@lepa2863 ?????? She yelled at her bc she is a colorist
Eva and Yaya are seemingly the only ones who truly benefited from ANTM. They both went on to develop respectable acting careers.
Analeigh Tipton has been in movies with Ryan Gosling and TV royality like Ginnifer Goodwin and Lucy Liu. She's definitely made her way in acting.
Leila goldkuhl was a top model, Fatima siad is also successful, Winnie Harlow (now a supermodel), Kristen kagay to name a few
And Jaslene
How are yall going to skip over toccora
If popularity is the only benefit you value in life, sure. But many, many, many of the top models went on to become legit models for years afterwards...and then married into a privileged life.
It’s always been problematic show they treated women of color poorly and then they bullied a women for having autism like a disability is a joke
As a 32 year old Black woman who watched and loved this show as a preteen, they were only EXPOSING the industry but they were too early for people to actually care. That’s how I look at it. Since I’m an adult now I can peep and understand the problematic things but unfortunately the industry has barely changed. Yes we see more acceptance but barely. Rihanna is probably one of the few folks moving things forward with her diversity with the models that she chooses.
Well even back then, Ken Mok claimed (co-creator) that ANTM was created to bring more diverse models yet the show just kept hiring models with one specific body type: tall and skinny.
Kanye had diverse models in all his yeezy season shows in fact he launched a lot of careers like Halima Aden and Alton Mason
But this is the problem, you want the industry to change where it doesn't even need to change for anybody. Gucci, Versace, YSL make record profits every single year because that is the style, fit and look that people want. I just don't get why people feel there that there "needs" to be a change
@@zazlar4228 🤡
The best way to put it
I was completely obsessed with this show as a kid. Tbh it’s a good thing that we’re recognizing that yeah, it was really problematic. I’m curious to know how many people in these comments ACTUALLY watched the show.
I remember being uncomfortable watching so many times. But I was trying to support. After awhile I stopped watching. Tyra was off the chain. Too bad
I watched it. I thought thank God I was a few inches too short to follow that dream. It was interestingly foolish. Eva the diva is still ruling on TV though.
unfortunately most reality shows are. Especially dating shows.
I definitely used to watch.
I loved it as a kid
Why did you put all these women together if there is nothing from their conversation?
This is a clip from a much longer piece. It's only here to get people to stream the full thing on Hulu.
No we need a full documentary. Thanks
Not everything ages well... but at the time, it was extremely popular. I may not have agreed with everything they did on the show but it did positive things as well. It's still legendary in my book!
You should do a whole series on this.
Grow up
Yes!! I would definitely watch!!!!!
@@jooson2826 tyra is that you ? 👀
It’s on Hulu
@@lalimichelamusic7066 RSO says what?
I look at Top Model like the movie white chicks it was golden for that era and back then folks didn’t have the knowledge they do now. It deserves every accolade it got back then and as a black girl I loved every minute of it and as a black woman in 2023 we know not to do that ish again….it is what it is 😂
Yup as a teen I never realized anything of it was bad. But omg the way we have advanced as a society and knowing more knowledge on things. We know tf better for sure!
Oh god
agreed!!
Perfectly stated 😂
What a disgusting take, top model did nothing but discriminate and deter Darkskin women from succeeding. There are countless episodes that degrade the models skin color !
“It’s a reality show, HELLO?!” - should have told the contestants. The amount of top designers and photographers in that show didn’t treat it as a reality show. Tyra Banks introduced it as a competition for models and the price was a career in modeling. Don’t tell us it was something else..again Janice not taking any accountability for her actions. These beautiful women were bullied and broken down, made to believe they were not trying hard enough, had to suffer severe body image problems and now Janice wants to say HELLO?! it’s just theatre? That’s not good enough.
"not trying hard enough" 🙄 "had to suffer severe body image problems" Get a grip. They could've taken those lessons and found success anywhere else in life.
Actually, in comparison to the REAL modelling industry. ANTM was actually unbelievably progressive in terms of body image. I don't think you realise how brutal the real fashion industry is, especially in the early 2000s when these models were trying break into the industry.
Not to mention the fact contestants were not obliged to take part in ANTM
@@SethAndrews111the real industry is way worse than top model
@@SethAndrews111 exactly
Janice saying "i wasn't cruel, i was correct" is the funniest most unself-awwre ghing I've heard said in a while😂
It's crazy how vividly I remember these ladies and now its been almost 2 decades since the show first came out
It's not just the show....It's the ENTIRE industry that STILL exists...although quietly.
I will keep it all the way 💯 I knew it was problematic...I did. I still watched it...I did. I remember when they did the "race swap" episode and my Mother walked in with my Auntie and said "what the...What the hell is Tyra doing?!" To which my Auntie (R.I.P.) without hesitation replied "She gon' getting somebody beat up." (Apparently it's herself 20 years later.)
I too knew back then it was problematic. I stopped watching the season with Eva and Yaya..... I don't think I even watched through the season, my sis begged me to watch the finale with her, and I did tho...... That was the last time
@sunnicalifornia15 yes??
Honestly I had no issues with the ethnic swap for a photoshoot. She was challenging the women to embrace photography of themselves with another image to embody someone else. They captured all the ethnicities well and swapped everyone. Blackface and cultural appropriation is when you make a caricature of someone from a stereotype and do it to earn benefits that aren’t afforded to the actual ethnicities which was not the case when a diverse cast switch roles for a photoshoot on a modeling competition show 🙄 everyone was equally able to benefit and no one was made goofy looking
People are so bored they're going back in time🤣😂😅
The definition of self quarantine right there.
And get triggered and outraged by it 😅😂
To when a woman was sexually assaulted on national tv and Tyra stood right there and watched or how bout the Afrikan model being discriminated against because her race, yea so long ago yet these same situations effect us still to this day every day
So they can't talk about the show now? 😂 you sound dumb
@@codetsfacts2808 no niggi, did I say that? Think before you open your hole & try to be a hero
ANTM was my life as a teen since back in ‘07! I’m currently binge watching and on season 9- this show was ahead of it’s time, diverse, honest and fierce! I’m reminded how overly sensitive and delusional this world has become if you think this is toxic. I see why you girls hate men, hate other women secretly and yourselves so much- you think constructive criticism is racism, sexism and whatever other ism you want to be a victim of. They complimented those girls just as much as they critiqued them and when it was time to say “you’re not that girl you think you are” they did JUST that! But y’all think everyone’s a winner and any comment on someone is shaming them so we can never have a real conversation about this, you can’t handle the truth 🤷🏾♀️
Janice always kept it real! 😂"it's a reality tv show...hello!!!"
I wanna start watching this show because of her lol
Go Janice! You were very entertaining😂😂 all the judges were. No regrets!
It's fine to critique a show but also be balanced and acknowledge that that show was the first show to actually give real airtime and praise dark-skinned black women praise short people praise full figured praise different color skin praised differently abled, they had everybody coming on that show to try and dismantle all of the beauty industry standards so at least be fair when you critique the show nobody else was doing that then. PERIOD!
That show is filled to the brim with ableism, fat phobia, and racism/colorism. Having minorities showcased on television is great but when you proceed to humiliate them for their differences it is no longer uplifting.
THANK YOU
Backhanded support is not support: the micro aggressions against the dark skinned women on that show were appalling (portraying them as ghetto, mean; hell, anyone who looked like Naomi Campbell was under the gun 😂) and I say that as a LSBW.
ya seriously!!!! it was a show hosted and developed by a beautiful black woman and the cast was diverse AF! I think times were simplier in the 2000s we were more connected and free. that show broke alot of boundaries and should be celebrated. not canceled by the new gens. even as an 11 year old wanting to go on top model i understood it was a show and it was more for exposure.
@J.E. Piper exactly!! Tyra was so problematic to dark-skinned women, devoted a whole cycle to exploiting shorter women, and even that one plus size winner Whitney got back handed praise. ANTM is the poster child for shows that simply don't age well. Like Little Rascals or something.
ANTM was revolutionary for the time. You cannot fairly judge it from the 2020s.
She was giving them a taste of the modeling world. That’s how it was in those days.
It wasn't revolutionary. If there was no bullying like a typical modelling agency then it's revolutionary. This show was toxic just like the fashion industry.
Something is only revolutionary if it leaves behind a positive legacy of positive impact by disrupting the archaic status quo. Not by leaving behind a trail of unearthed, unresolved problems.
Don’t blame society for being more socially conscious now and using history to improve the present + future.
@@lionessstarseed6812 ANTM represented more races, ethnicities, sexualities, body figures, and disabilities than any other show I can think of that came out in the 2000s. It was not perfect but it broke down barriers for the models that we have today. Many of the girls have positive things to say about the show and say it was an overall good life experience, those are just not the statements that get amplified.
@@abbyolmsted7852 exactly only the women that were not successful have something negative to say. Eve and others are doing well and they are never interviewed.
Janice Dickenson looks like her heart.
Ouch
lmao-
Whew 😩 she was pretty as a model though
😂😂😂😂
Yikes! Haha
I love how the contestants the brought in barely even spoke. Great!
I loved the commentary from the previous top models in this segment. They shared their experiences, their opinions, and where they are today. Thanks ABC 🙄
I'm a designer and had my crochet earrings on America's Next Top Model. It changed my whole career.
Congratulations!!! So many people outside of the models seem to have this testimony and I can see why. This show put a lotttt of people on the map
My problem with the shading of ANTM is the same people who were watching it every week are the same people saying it’s problematic. It was always problematic: the show and the industry. It still is. Don’t hate on just show hate on it all.
Not really I think it’s the new people the sensitivity level is beyond high now
We were literally children. We didn't know better
@@jodavitow You didn’t know as a kid that what they were saying might have hurt the model’s feelings?
@jodavitow I agree. It didn't compute lol.. looking back you have a different perspective.. back then it was just entertainment
@@ineshadixon1377 well no. They tried to paint this narrative of "we are just being honest and we say this things for your own good". Which is an attitude a lot of adults take with children. So, no, as a 10 year old that was a very normalized experience for me.
I appreciate Janice’s honesty… the models of the 90s made a very tough and toxic industry look glamorous. Tyra and the other hosts pulled the curtain back. For as much negativity was on this show there was also a ton of positivity, it’s selective outrage, every reality show on at that time was super problematic through today’s lenses. The show was only successful because millions of ppl watched.
It's not selective outrage, it's called reflection..
@@gladiatorinsweats I think we can agree to disagree, because the same ppl are still obsessed with the designers, photographers, and fashion houses that created such a culture. Reflection requires one to look inward not outward, the real question is why was millions of ppl glued to their television screens making this a top rated show for years. Ppl don’t get to such heights without public support. My point remains that TONS of ppl enjoyed the nastiness and toxicity of this show
@@gladiatorinsweats The thing is people like you can't "reflect" on the past without getting personal about it and acting as if it's hurting you in some type of way today. Judging the past with the morals of the present day is both dumb and pointless. You wouldn't want people in the future judging you for views and opinions that were quite popular for the time, so just accept things for what they were and move on.
@@skip031890 so slavery is okay then? I mean by your logic it's okay since it all happened in the past and it was normal back then 🤷♀
@@kurapikakurta3863 Slavery is still normal today and I don't see you calling out those places that still do it. I guess you thought you were being slick with that comment, but you're not. 🙄
The tattoos all over Tiff’s face now tells me life kept doing a number on her despite this opportunity 😢
All still STUNNING and standing ❤❤
I love that Janice kept it real here. Let's not act shocked, we loved and liiiiiived for ANTM.... That was then. It happened, it's a different time now. Move on. It's in its time capsule and Tyra will always be a legend.
Yeah I mean Janice is just being transparent.
What more do people want?
THANK YOU... ppl have too much free time.
And I still love it!! Janice did what other cruel judges would do! She had to prepare them for the industry!!! I respect her for that….
Agree 💯
💯 all the comments
There’s a reason why the tyra show isn’t online. Trust me. If it was available for streaming Tyra would have a lot of explaining to do.
The Tyra Bank show was tame compare to other daytime tv shows of the 90s and early 2000s.
What's your problem with ANTM? Is it Tyra being mean to some poor helpless adults? Or is it people blaming a t.v show for their problems?
Yeah, I don’t think that’s it
It is avaliable for streaming on Hulu (at least in 2020)
She wasn't just "mean" but go off.
Idc if it's problematic, Top Model is iconic. Take me back to 2006...
It's iconic indeed.
It was iconic and problematic… but I’m definitely not trying to go back to the mean spirited ass culture that was alive in 2006! The media was over brutal. Especially to women
@@MykelMontana this is what people in the entertainment and art field go through. Top Model barely touch the surface in my opinion watch documentaries on dancers, actors, and musicians it's brutal.
I feel so indifferent. Granted I was 12 when Top Model was entertaining. I dont know if I would have enjoyed it as an adult tbh
Bro... what minority wants to go back to 2006😭
My favourite bit was when the models got to talk 😅
It wasn’t even just a new generation, watching it, those of us that grew up with it, and watched it again during that time period of the pandemic. When people started binging started to look at it as older women and say, why was this OK these were degrading moments. These were ridiculous. How can those girls be talked to like that? How can they be treated like that?
I wanted to hear more from Tiffany. That’s an entire episode right there ♥️
ANTM was more a TV Show than an actual modeling casting.
Yeah it was
Uh...duh.
I think it is unfair to highlight Top Model as Toxic. These are the type of things that were said to my face in auditions and casting calls. Top Model was pretty accurate in how the fashion industry's mind set was at the time. What Top Model did unintentionally was pull back the curtain of what was like to work as a model to the general public, which i believe sparked reforms and views today.
It was a toxic show on a toxic industry. It was a mirror. Its not at all unfair. What an odd statement.
Also, Tyra’s whole point was that she wanted the show to change the fashion industry and show that girls didn’t have to all look the same to be models, only to uphold the same toxic standards the show was supposed to be standing against.
Nothing was toxic about the show. Everyone isn't beautiful and everyone can't be a model. It's job with specific requirements.
Everyone can't be doctor, lawyer or accountant. Should they change the requirements to be a doctor so people who aren't capable can become doctors. Like just remove the med school requirement altogether??
Can we mention how Eva Marcielle has been winning ever since she was on ANTM. She knew the deal & made it work for her. I wish they featured her in this story. ANTM has the early 2000s in a chokehold. I remember watching this in my college dorm faithfully. Looking back today, it’s like wow. Amazes me how we didn’t see certain things then.
She made the show work for her and make good money.
I had the good fortune to be roomed with my bestie in college. We both caught colds at the same time and spent 3 days watching VH1 because they had a ANTM marathon running. We were achy, snotty, and miserable but had the best time watching this. It was interesting to see the photo shoots and we would go back and forth to one another about how harsh the judging was. But damn it was a great time and one of my fondest memories of college. I think models are awesome and have a cousin who auditioned for the show. I respect the grind but always had trouble wrapping my head around how cutthroat the industry was. Knowing what I know now about how poorly those girls were treated, idk if I could watch it now.
I feel nostalgia and ick at the same time
and Yaya Dacosta... Brie... The only ones compalining are the ones that didnt excel. Everything now is a problem.. soon we wont be able to speak or breathe without criticism.
people might find it problematic now but at the time it was amazing and is still one of my favourite shows! Tyra Banks did a lot for us growing up and really did change what it meant to be a model and reality star. we need to give Tyra her flowers tbh...
That’s not true, I always knew Tyra was toxic af. I could never understand why anyone liked her.
Tyra can eat her flowers still blaming naomi and playing victim
Oof the delusion. As someone who was a huge fan of the show, it's not just that people find it a bit problematic. It *was* problematic and dehumanizing. They preyed on young women who'd do anything to make it and mentally/physically harmed them to make lord knows how many millions for Tyra and her producers. I remember religiously watching the show with my mom and didn't understand why my mom (who worked in fashion) always seemed to pity the girls. She'd always make comments like 'damn all this stress and 99% are going to be forgotten, not supermodels', and she was right. There's a reason Tyra faded away from the spotlight when she could've been the next Oprah. She knew a time for atonement was coming. Flowers lol please.
So fucking sick of hearing that word used for everything. As well as toxic literally and triggering...
@@cafeAmericano cuz you are prob a toxic person yourself 😂
ANTM was an era! I even auditioned to join the petite season and was so sad I wasn’t chosen. I understand it was problematic looking back at it, but it is what it is. I’d be a hypocrite to say Tyra needed to apologize when I looked up to her at some point in my life. It changed the lives of so many girls on that show. There are people who hated it and people who really thrived from it. Some of the winners still are extremely successful in their careers. Some are still models, others aren’t. Think about the time they opened the door for a transgender woman to be apart of the show. That was incredibly ground breaking at the time. ANTM may have had some bad moments, but there were also good moments too!
Me too lol! Waited in that long ass line in DC
THANK YOU, HINDSIGHT IS ALWAYS 20/20
amen sis!!!
exactly. yaya is on The Resident like boom, Eva continues to work, Toccara has her clothing lines
So did I in LA! 😅 The show was rough but I’m sure models deal with these antics and worse behind the scenes. This show just brought it to light and amplified it for ratings. It had 24 seasons!
I loved ANTM and it was entertaining for what it was at the time. Times has changed and that’s just that.
Dang Tiffany looks totally different. Almost did not recognize her
Is this longer? I wanted to hear more from the models!
Don't care what anyone says...still love the show and I'm glad it was a part of my childhood ❤
Same. Yea some episodes were how they were but the girls could have left point blank and as we saw as the time progressed some of them weren’t beat and did left. They could have left and called it a day honestly I went to go and try out for the show but decided on college but I love Tyra and half the goals up there only did the show for Tyra anyway
It's true tho it's like the movies and shows we've watched as kids: white chicks, mean girls, clueless, bad girls club and more
Offensive lines were part of comedy 😅 sad but true
ANTM was a direct reflection of the modeling industry. I loved the show and all its toxicity when it aired. And anything that airs on TV is meant to entertain and garner ratings.
I don't think it's beneficial to keep harping on the lack of political correctness on ANTM. Time has passed, apologies have been issued, what more can possibly be done? Just be thankful that the show ended. There's literally nothing else that we can do. Take it as a history lesson of what we used to do but don't want to repeat and keep it moving. People on TikTok are angrier than the actual contestants who were involved.
That’s what they’re doing Marissa. They’re talking about what happened and hopefully people learn from this.
THANK YOU for saying it.
Agreed.
Again it’s easier for you to say this when you were not on the receiving end of the anti blackness l/bullying that was spewed towards the contestants. So no people don’t have to move on
@@groovyli4502 lmao anti blackness stfu no one is any black and im black
THE FACE actually had the girls model . It came after but it was more accurate with the modelling industry than next top model . Moral of the story we never understood the impact this show would have on their lives after because we didn’t have the same type of social media . I feel sorry for them and those who grew up believing they weren’t good enough too model . Glad it’s changing now slowly but surely hopefully for the better . And Janice suffered from the industry as well she’s just too prideful to admit her wrongdoings . And finally they really used to sell that reality tv shows would be glamorous but fell in the same pattern as the others editing to create the mean and archetypes needed for these shows .
TheFace had Naomi screaming at girls too.
Loooovvveee Tiffany’s new look 😍😍😍 She’s giving me R&B
I recognized all of them immediately!
Tyra will be blamed for everything wrong with the show. In reality, I believe the production team played a role in turning the girls into clowns for entertainment.
Agree it changed in later seasons and I stopped watching the first few seasons you actually learned Beauty tips, later it was about stunts etc.
Aka. exploitation all for personal gain
Right!
@IKMS You just want to see her fall from grace. Log off and go invest that energy into something productive.
It can be all of the above 😅
I had Tyra’s meltdown speech memorized
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I pretended to get mad at my dolls after that. I hope they don't talk about me in therapy. 😂
@@carrington2949 🤣🤣🤣
I find Tyrant's behavior downright rude and disrespectful. She is worse than Janice who at least was never hypocritical on the show.
I think people just don't like Tyra. That's fine but they need to say that. I don't see how ANTM was much different than other reality TV shows of it's time. Social media piles onto Tyra but have nothing to say about Gordon Ramsey, Simon Cowell and shows that had people eating bugs.
This right here. Thank you....they really need to slow up. Especially given that these beautiful chocolate sisters would have seen NO airtime at all if not for Tyra. Say your piece, but don't get stupid with it.
I agree 100% .
It was a product of its time.
Not fair to look back now.
I love Tyra . She can never be cancelled in my eyes. She didn’t do anything worse than what everyone else was doing in that time and era
Um Tyra put girls in black faced and forced a legally blind model to walk an obstacle course run way without looking at the cat walk first. The models were very transphobic to Isis with no intervention and the amount of micro aggressions and racism towards the darker skin models was insane. That’s barely scratching the surface. Gordon Ramsey just yells at people…
@@lovedoctor7928 exactly ‼️
If people have to tell you that you should be offended when you initially weren’t, that’s an issue
Let's be honest people the only reason why any of us ever bothered to watch America's next top model was because of how brutally honest Janice Dickinson was about her opinions and feelings about not only how unattractive some of the contestants were but also about how much she absolutely hated her fellow judges ( especially Tyra)
Not why I watched . Maybe for you
Yes. It was a reality show. And it’s nice that some models did get to go on and have career’s.
I can honestly say as an 18 year old watching the show there were moments that made me feel greatly uncomfortable. I remember Tyra telling one girl that getting an education wasn't as important as being a model. I also remember how they treated the model that was Autistic and how insensitive they were. In fact when she got voted off I stopped watching.
EVA AND YAYA represent the legacy perfectly♥️👊🏿👊🏿
We didn't see it as problematic because the term "WOKE" didn't exist yet??? Huh?? You don't need a coined term or trendy lingo to recognize toxicity. Oh, we absolutely saw it!! But we didn't have IG or Twitter to vent collectively. This whole thing was useless. 😒
Just like they made a show surviving R. Kelly they need to make one surviving America’s next top model and Tyra Banks
Yes Tiffany “we were all rooting for you” classic line
Let’s keep it real people now days are to damn sensitive. They don’t like to hear the truth. Everyone gets hurt too easily about about anything and that’s how come they can’t make it out here in this world. Tyra, Naomi Campbell, Janice, Dickinson, Gia, Cindy Crawford, Linda Evangelista etc I’m sure had to go through many people saying and doing the same things to them and that’s why they have tough skin and have had a longevity careers, unlike the people nowadays
I agree but then I also feel like we don’t just accept the toxicity of what used to be because our industry’s titans made it through that so that means it’s good enough for me. I think it’s important to balance everything. Be more aware and conscious of your words.
I completely agree
We need a full documentary or docu-series ASAP.
That show was when I realizes Tyra was better when she just kept her mouth shut. I only watch the 1st season I just couldn’t not stand the show I saw it as problematic.
Fact of the matter is NOBODY would know who any of these people were without ANTM. It’s reality TV. Period.
this show will remain in our hearts. no matter how hard you new gens try to cancel it. praise to JD for sticking to her guns.
I don't personally care what people choose to watch but this is definitely giving "don't take away my confederate flags" energy lol.
I hated Tyrant more than Janice. At least Janice doesn't fake 'we were all rooting for you', 'I'm your sista' but then makes disparaging comments and jokes about black hair and gap teeth. Tyrant is more disgusting and hypocritical. Janice you know how she is. I'd choose Naomi Campbell over Tyrant anyday
Not really. I kinda watch to just punch every one of those judges. Like the time they told a girl to just get over the fact one of the models she was posing with was sexually assaulting her. Or forced a girl to model in a grave after her best friend died
I lived for the Oliver Twixt interviews that he did with the contestants. They are so good!!!
Truth be told it's likely none of us would know who you are or follow you without ANTM. Even though some models say it did nothing for them, if they increased popularity, ratings or followers after the show, it's because we became familiar with you on ANTM.
Social media followers doesn’t equal jobs. These girls had their reputations damaged in the actual modeling industry because of the show unless they went overseas. Plus for a lot of the earlier seasons social media really wasn’t a thing you could make a solid living off of yet unless you were a top creator and even then it was rare.
@@kennyb1588 it's a platform, with or without social media, do with it what you will. Exact same for ALL of these reality competitions. Stop bellyaching. The ones who were really good in terms of attitude, talent, looks, and intelligence, seem to have been successful at something related to fashion, modeling or entertainment. And the majority of these women didn't have any career to begin with so there was nothing to ruin. Everyone isn't going to be famous. Same with music and acting, the modeling industry doesn't take everyone.
@sunnicalifornia15 EXACTLY! Had I been on ANTM like these chicks, you would know.
Woke doesn’t mean what the mainstream media thinks it means…
I loved the show America's Next Top Model. It was a great show that she'd light on the modeling industry and provided an opportunity to bring in Black models and other models of different ethnicities. This was prior to social media when most people weren't as uptight as they are now. The show launched the careers of Ya Ya and Eva Marcelle who are now actresses.
The real problem is with social media, not America's Next Top Model.
The problem is obviously those pretentiously "woke" tiktokers who would create drama for clout lol
Go back and watch it a lot of the things they said and did were very unprofessional and unacceptable trust me I’m not in that woke culture
Amen!!!!!!!
@@StreamHypeBoyByNewJeans I think there is also a problem in ANTM, especially the issue where the production starve their models on purpose usually during photoshoots to capture dramas. But I agree with your statement, I also want to add that people should also realize that there is a generation gap. I was born in the mid 90s and when I was younger, I don't see most of their criticisms toxic, though a lot of them are sure toxic. The problem now are the mindset of people especially woke people in present time because they are overly sensitive about everything while most of them are just bunch of hypocrites because they complain and fight for something and yet, they are also saying horrible things without thinking and their "cancel" culture is extremely toxic.
@@StreamHypeBoyByNewJeansY'all always claim That addressing issues as being "woke", but these models themselves have been talking about the mistreatment they received on the show for YEARS
Janice Dickinson the Simon Cowell of the model world. She was being extremely rude for controversy. And controversy means viewers. She previously explained she was playing a character, she knew what she was doing.
Tyra was playing a 'character' of what 'WAS' the modeling world back then - There was a spacific look to get into modeling. However, Tyra Banks brought the modeling world to the world and gave people a chance. Don't get it twisted!
Simon Cowell actually can make some good points when he wants to. Janice, not so much.
You just had to be there !! What a time to be alive . Me and my mama watched this every week ! Did not skip a beat honey . Lol so crazy how reality is sooo toxic that it’s not even real lol
These social media brats! So sick
of these whiny babies.
That's how they are
They don't get it 😅 all of the episodes are jokes and laughs but sad
It's not their fault, covid and the system
They created quarantine 🏘️ and those kids are bored, they're young, they wanna go out
"I dont think i was cruel at all"
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They didn’t let the contestants talk at all which pissed me tf off
"At the time I thought nothing of it."
Ah, those were the days....
For who? Never mind. It tells me everything I need to know about you 😂
Love this press for Oliver. He’s been doing his thing
ANTM is still one of my favorite shows ever!
Where do I watch the full version of this? Thank you!
Salute to all of them 🫡🌷💖 I remember not missing an episode
Everyone was glued to the tv when this came on including myself 🤣. I wanted to hear from Tiff and what she’s been up to she looks like life took a toll on her but she looks healthy
I will watch it all over and enjoy every minute of it. Bring it back!
You'll sit and watch black women be racially discriminated against, that's counterproductive or is it the fat shaming you liked. Or was it the episode a girl was sexually assaulted on national television
@@peace4447 Get a grip. 🙄
No accountability from Janice or Tyra for deceptive marketing. Why tell them the winner would a get contract when that wasnt the case
I appreciate Janice’s honesty. Like it or not 🤷🏾♀️
💌💯 TEAM TYRA! 🧡The modeling industry back then, was only for 'Skinny girls and little/no Black models'. I applaud TYRA BANKS for allowing BLACK MODELS, PETTIE MODELS, MALE MODELS, PLUS SIZE to all COMPETE AND WIN! This was a COMPETITION to win $100,000 CONTRACT and magazine spreads! Of course their would be challenges (In the 2000s); There was no 'SOCIAL MEDIA' then. People had to WORK back in the days; Now, everything is on 'Smart phones'. The girls were flown around the WORLD FOR FREE! LIVED IN A DECKED OUT HOTEL FOR FREE, they signed up for this competition, 24 cycles! STOP COMPLAINING and get on with your lives!! this is getting really boring now!! #TEAMTYRA💯💯💯💥
Tyra Banks epitomized the “Mean Girl” culture.
There was no 'Mean girl' culture - it's called being a 'BOSS' in what was the 'Modeling world' back then; There was only a certain look to be a model, Tyra aimted to help girls get jobs! This generation is lazy now because everything on 'Smart Phones'. This generation has no life so they binge watch old shows instead of getting out there and working! This is what was the modeling world back then! Educate your self!
ANTM was a product of its time. I will continue to love this show
That product being reality-based programming meant to have low production costs while exploiting people’s aspirations.
What do you mean the systemic cycle of abuse ? I worked for 7 years and even by industry practices this show was wrong.
@@catseye1009thank you
Boy, the hyper sensitivity today is off the charts. Life is not supposed to appease your every need and feeling of validation and self worth, but if you feel that, you’re in for a rollercoaster of a ride in life. Any voids we feel in life, don’t go chasing them with fame, relationships or a career because they will be temporary moments of relief. we can’t stay blaming others when they don’t appease our needs.
I agree!!
100% agreed with Janice! She is not politically correct to try to say the right thing but she is most definitely correct. It is a reality show and nothing more than that
Real and abuse is too different things