@Tara Mooknee this is not toxic masculinity, this is men being confused about masculinity and you're making it worse by calling masculinity toxic. Stop men shaming. Masculinity is great, feminism isn't about breaking down men. That's toxic feminism. Can't you see that men these days are confused because of men shaming? They don't know how to be a real men. They think they should be alpha males and fake confidence, they should just be themselves without shame.
@@djesun1 Oh good another one of you lugnuts so fragile you hear the words "toxic masculinity" and think that means "masculinity = bad" instead of "a bad **version** of masculinity." You are lying, ignorant, or stupid. Take your pick.
@@slevinchannel7589 As a werewolf, can confirm. Neither us nor our more primitive cousins (actual wolves) subscribe to that belief. In actuality, it’s dad who runs the show. We follow dad out of respect and we watch his back till the end. Dad doesn’t run the show cos he’s the biggest and meanest. He runs the show with love and respect. That’s a TRUE alpha way.
Some people (because both genders do it) just can't seem to take a fricking hint, I swear! That didn't sit well with me either. This dude is why women do not just leave their drinks alone or uncovered.
“You’re just saying that so I’ll stop.” Alright, so you've demonstrated that you KNOW she wants you to stop. SO STOP! God I fucking hate the entitlement and breach of boundaries these assholes display.
When I was 14 I accidentally made eye contact with a guy (an adult man) when I was walking home. He followed me for multiple blocks after that thinking I was interested. I had to yell at him to get him to stop. Repeat after me: Eye contact can and often is accidental and does not mean they are interested in you.
When I was in my early 20s I was at an art exhibition taking photos of the artwork, a man started talking to me about photography, giving me some tips because he supposedly was a photographer. In my country it's pretty common to talk to people you have just met, so it wasn't something weird. The conversation was quiet normal, just about photography and the exhibition. We continued seeing the rest of the exhibition while talking until suddenly he tried to walk around hand in hand with me, when I didn't allowed it he said something about kissing me. I was so shocked. How the hell he could think that talking about the exhibition we both and a bunch of people were seeing meant I was interested in dating him or something?
@@betrousaltaweel actually gesturing for you to come over or explicitly flirting. People accidentally make eye contact all the time, it is not enough to decide that means you should stalk them. I was also a child, which makes the story more horrifying.
Oh god, I had similar happen to me when I was 16. I was on my way home from a stroll when a guy stopped me on the street, asking for directions. I gave them the directions. He then invited me for a coffee, I turned him down and he kept at it. And kept at it. And kept at it. His argument, “why are you smiling if you don’t like me?” And “why don’t you just walk away, then?” There was a very good reason for that last one. I didn’t want the guy to know where I lived. I could have walked in another direction but that’d mean making my way through backstreets and that was even worse. So I waited until he walked away before heading home. I am sure he would have followed me.
Men like this really be like, “Enthusiastic consent is stupid and useless, I can just read body language and if she’s not into I’ll stop” Women shows obvious disinterest and tries to disengage: “Don’t be a brat lmao 🤪”
@@kodabuck225 yeah I definitely needed a breather after that and when he tried to argue that the piece was actually satire. It was a lot to say the least
That's because consent has a finality that interpreting body language doesn't. If someone says no, you can't pretend not to understand that. But you can pretend that a woman shifting away and looking uncomfortable is actually just because she's intimidated by you and she just needs more of your time to warm up and manipulate further.
I wish I was Hashinshin's carpet is right. Reading body language isn't bad. It's great to have guys understanding the subtle hints of 'no'. Not every girl is going to 'enthusiastically consent'. It's not so clear when you're trying to find out if a shy person is actively pursuing you. I don't like that you said 'consent', as if not 'enthusiastically consenting' means you aren't consenting. I'm hinging the emphasis on 'enthusiastically' because I really am not 'enthusiastically passionate, energetic' or otherwise about men in general. I mean I watch these YT channels about picking up women sometimes. It's nice to see how men think sometimes. It's weird how things that seem obvious aren't obvious to some men but trying to see men psychoanalyse me is interesting...for five minutes before I click off. It's cringe worthy but not inherently bad.
Man says something incredibly sexist and rapey. Everyone: "What the hell is wrong with you?" Man: "Oh...it was a JOKE!! Hahaha, funny right? I can't believe you fell for it...hah.."
Schrodinger's Douchebag One who makes douchebag statements, particularly sexist, racist or otherwise bigoted ones, then decides whether they were “just joking” or dead serious based on whether other people in the group approve or not. Source: Urban Dictionary
Being a female doctor in Latvia, I feel like having contributed to the book "Don't bang Latvia". During my medical studies, whenever a guy wouldn't leave me alone, I started telling them how fascinating I find the dissection of corpses in anatomical theatre. Now that usually did the trick.
Are we long-lost sisters? I do the same, except I studied zoology and would talk about the animal dissections I had to do, or share disturbing/disgusting nature facts (like how anglerfish mate-that one usually shuts the guys right up)
@@carolyns4519 How argonaut octopi mate is also a good one. As an idea for you. The male basically rips off his reproductive...appendage, and just tosses it to the female. It's an arm with basically sperm in it, and the females are like 5-10x the size of the males, so they can't mount them lol. The arm then locks into place basically to inseminate the female, like, inside. Weird, huh? Talking about a creature ripping off what is comparable to a human male phallus will help spoil their "mood", as well, hopefully. I encourage looking into it though if you haven't already, that shit is so fascinating to me. (Sorry if I just explained something to you that you already knew, I figured if you already knew, someone else could read and learn at least. ^^;;)
He literally negged all British women. A guy bullied me on a school trip in college for 6 hours (field trip, the whole time, from the beginning of the trip to returning to the hotel, he never stopped, 6 hours), things like "make me a sandwich" or "no one cares what you have to say, you're a woman" and so on the whole time, just to me. When I finally snapped he said "women like being mistreated" and when I told him "not this woman, you need to stop", he was like "why are you acting so crazy, can't take a joke" and the next day all the guys, including those who were present for all his BS, shunned me as being a bitch. Again, 6 hours. At first I was letting it roll off, throwing some jabs back at him, but he wouldn't stop and then I felt suckered into feeding his verbal abuse that I thought were jokes but then felt sincere. Such a huge piece of crap.
What the hell! They are all so stupid and toxic. I'm so sorry you had to go through that :( You don't need them because you are an independent, intelligent and smart woman! Screw those douchebags
@@jasminkln Yeah. Years ago. Just meant I did a lot of stuff alone in a foreign country (most of the girls complained it was too hot or outright lied about when they were going out, but I hesitantly figured that was a different issue, most of them all came from the same region of the US I did not). Only time it hindered me was hiking a mountain. I couldn't go alone for safety and the guys that also wanted to climb tried to leave me. Some locals helped me coming down. Way too nice. Saved me.
It's comedic to see a paid woman act super into this guy during his video. She's acting so unnaturally. Do men really think we just sit around worshipping them while they talk? LMAO
Pickup artist training a client: "Here's how to prey on a woman's low self-esteem." Pickup artist training another pickup artist: "Here's how to prey on a man's low self-esteem."
Roosh actually converted to orthodox Christianity a couple years ago and he no longer supports this lifestyle nor the books he wrote about it. I really think the creator should have did a bit more research
I love how it’s both “women shouldn’t be trusted because they don’t even say no to men, then turn around and claim it’s rape” AND “if they say no, just keep pushing. Call her naughty, that’ll break down her defenses and it’s the quickest you can have sex with a girl without out right kidnapping and raping her hahaha!” Monsters.
No man in his right mind is doing this. Get real. Men look down on p.u.a. bullshit. That stuff is for lazy ass men that want to play victim. Women have sex with who they choose, be better than the guy next to you if you want pussy. No of this shit is necessary anyways. If a chick wants to bang you she will make all the moves and do all the work.
"if rape was legal women would take better care of themselves" this guy has never talked to a woman otherwise he would know how many damn cautions we take going out
Amid the pandemic, I had my hair short. Like a boy cut. And sometimes I felt at ease that I would not get harassed because if people can’t see my face, I thought they will think I’m a guy. There’s really a difference. When some people thought I was a guy, the way they look at me is different. I can’t explain. But I felt more comfortable.
Its just bloody ridiculous, women manage to go without sex and not assault people. Or just things you want in general, im not about to go out and rob a Porshe or a designer handbag out of entitlement (not that i particularly want either of these things but you get the picture). They need to grow TF up we dont always get everything we want and thats just life!
The people that say " women are now encouraged to be fat, unattractive, not take care of them selves" are the same people that think women were solely made into existence to please men 😂😂😂. Entitlement is not attractive. edit: the practice your smile everyday killed me😂😂😂😂
If that's what it takes to be ignored, go all out. There is no reason to date or engage with men, they just keep proving that they are to be avoided at all cost. THEY do this to themselves! But then I'll be called a misandrist for wanting to avoid them, due to the immense volume of proof that they cant be trusted. Better stay safe and sane. Avoid them. A v o i d.
If he tries that crap with me he may end up being kicked in the balls. If a man is not being a " gentleman " I am under no obligation to act like a lady.
I cannot overstate how much the phrases "accuse her of being a naughty girl" and "don't be a brat" dry me up faster than if someone lit my genitals on fire.
This just terrifies me because it further confirms that there are a large community of men who are only resisting raping women because it’s illegal. Not because they care about women or in any way view women as humans instead of objects.
Now in addition to hidding behind the ''it's a joke!'' excuse, the new trend is ''it's satire!'', Which is as dense and pathetic: but they are still as dangerous as before. And he isn't the only guy that thinks it's ok to do whatever they want when a woman is sleeping. (She isn't aroused, she isn't agreeing: she is alseep!! ) Why they think this is remotely ok is sickening. But in their empty heads, it's ok to do that to someone who is sleeping, it's because she can't say NO. So just ram it in there and pretend it's not men's fault, "Me cant control myself' ok guys should be kept in cages then? Dont act like a human being, dont get treated like one. Simple.
@@whatsupinspace854 oh yes, please tell us of your troglodyte ape rapists ancestors! we can't wait to hear how the "civilised male" has "evolved" and invented science so he can become a legal rape-ape predator!!! the way you treat women show what kind of respect your mother deserves. We all wish she had more ambition and self-esteem than dick...it's obvious it didn't turn out well for her
Why is “if a girl looks at you that means she likes you” the mindset of every single male in a club. Gotta look at the floor i guess. 5 months after posting this comment I am still getting replies from women sharing their experiences of men making them feel uncomfortable (at least). If you are a man reading this, there are so many small steps you can take to make women feel safer in general. Please be respectful of consent, personal space and boundaries, and when in doubt, assume women do not want you to approach them. Women have had to make changes to their everyday lives (crossing the road, not walking at night, carrying rape alarms, to name a few) that make them feel safer- please make small changes to your behaviour to make women feel safe too. It is a small ask that has huge consequences. And to those asking me for dating advice like I'm qualified or something- get a dating app, meet people through friends or common interests. The club is not the only place you can meet people. CONSENT & RESPECT PLEASE, ALWAYS
The only true way of picking up women: 1. Groom your feather plume. 2. Once eye contact is established, slowly approach her while bobbing your head rythmically. The closer you are to a 4/4 rythm, the better. 3. Once you got as close as 1 meter, spin around, first clockwise, then counter clockwise. Keep repeating if she remains skeptic. 4. If she decides to go home with you, present every blue item in your household. 5. ??? 6. Profit!
"Alternatively, you could genuinely be her friend & find someone else." And - *spoilers* - it turns out that talking, hanging out with & acting normally around women is a great way to get better at talking, hanging out with & acting normally around women. What's more, it seems that some women are friends with other women, so you might - just maybe - meet more women.
Exactly. I’ve learned this this past year after being rejected by a friend I had feelings for, and our friendship is ever-growing and strong and we’ve talked about her friends and I meeting sometime
Yep. After taking a dance class that was almost all women, and getting to know them and interacting with them in a normal way, women tended to like me more. I even got to reject a girl who was interested in me, because I couldn't trust her because she was on a different team in my robotics class. And was only interested in me as a potential boyfriend, and was trying to make me jealous of another guy she was interested in. I would have been totally fine with her being with me and another guy, or with just being friends, but she skipped being friends and went straight to trying to make me jealous. I'm glad most people are not like that. That was a strange experience. I kinda wish I had asked for some of those girls' numbers, as quarantine started suddenly at the end of my senior year, and I only had my best friend's phone number. Consequently, I haven't talked with a woman outside my immediate family for more than a couple sentences in over a year. It sucks. I'm sure at least one of the girls I knew was interested in women's fashion, and since I'm genderfluid and tend to dress extremely femininely, I'm sure we could have had quite a few good conversations about fashion. Or just about any other mutual interest. It's just that all of my friends are men who are not interested in women's fashion.
Some of us are better as friends than as lovers, not everyone is made to be together in a romantic way. And if you have a good friend of the opposite sex, the best way to lose them is to start something more.
Also I am sure that the reason the girls were apparently so eager to go on a date with him, was because he was foreign and as such, a curiosity. I bet that was short-lived once they knew more about him than "I'm American".
I am a woman from Russia, I'm a feminist and (what a coincidence!) I have 4 cats (but 1 is mine and 3 i'm fostering), I also have self-respect... And all my female friends are feminists too( To be honest fed up with those outdated degrading stereotypes about girls from my region
I was literally asked "low-key" if I was a mail order bride from russia one time. Her (yes, a biological woman asked me this) reason being was she didn't understand how the guy I was (still am) with got a woman like me. Yea.... Let's say being thought of as "paid for" didn't bode well with me.
@@flourflower3499 And they have nothing against American women. I hate how these dudes try to turn us against other women. It's almost like they are projecting their insecurities upon us. Greetings to American ladies from Poland
It's so weird how these guys tear down women for having premarital sex but have made careers about getting women to have premarital sex. Like aren't you just making it harder for yourself or is the point to make it hard so that these men who believe in them continue to fail and hope their consumer base doesn't wise up.
As fun as it is to laugh at the PUAs, I also feel bad for some of the people that fall for it. I'm glad you mentioned that early in the video. I'm an autistic person in my 30's who still can't understand most flirting nuances. As a teenager, I was always flabbergasted when my friends told me some one was interested or flirting with me, and if I was into it I should flirt back. I know parts of that sound incredibly simple, but they might as well have been speaking another language. And eventually when I did try to act on specific suggestions, I would take them very literally and it always came off strange. Ex. "Compliment him and let you know how you feel. " 14 yo me: walks up and says, "I like the books I see you reading. I feel nervous. Ok bye." Now, I obviously know better than to pay or listen to these creeps, but as a teenager I might have jumped at the chance to get such dumbed-down step-by-step tutorials on talking with people i was attracted to. Or just people in general... I'm not saying only autistic people fall for this or deserve pity, that's just how I relate to the subject through my own experiences.
Yep. Autistic people problem. Good luck getting people who don't think it's normal to text/write everything down instead of "just talking" like they think you should be doing in the first place I communicate best through non verbal and I've yet to meet one person who truly accepts and understands my preference of communication. Sucks 😩
@@sunsetkitty2932 I can relate. Don't give up and don't force yourself. I don't know if you're on reddit, but I've actually found some subreddits like "autistic pride" and "are the nts ok" are good place to find some community, vent, and problem-solve, especially now when in-person support groups are suspended. I'm not suggesting those groups will contain a romantic partner, but it helps to feel validated and not alone.
@@333SarahBeth I'm not even diagnosed yet I just KNOW, you know? Haven't been in reddit in years. Sorta feel the lack of diagnosis makes me not fit anywhere. I'm not normal and since I don't have a diagnosis I don't fit elsewhere either. Even if that feeling is described by many pre-diagnosis, I almost feel like I don't "have the right" even though it's the only thing that "feels right" to describe me. Here I am venting, sorry.
@@nora-wb7sk oh definitely like east Asian women are so objectified by these neck beards who just use it as a way to also put down any other women . Guys like these are so gross
I hate that sometimes you have to give reasons like i have a boyfriend, im engaged or married to get rid of unwanted advances like dude my "no" should be enough
Yes same! And then dudes like the one example who are like “you’re just saying you have a boyfriend to make me stop” like yeah duh I wouldn’t have to lie like that if people like you would just take no for an answer. It’s pretty sick honestly.
As said in the video there's no consideration for the person on the other end, in fact in the mind of many men it's not a person it is but a means to an end, an object. Your 'no' is then simply receive as an obstacle to overcome, a challenge that has to be meant (like a broken piece of equipment), one that will go as far as qualifying the person as a man (fitting the received identity) or not (and suffering the low self-esteem and having no identity)... This is why he is still texting you after you've said and meant no.
My friend used to wear a "wedding ring" before she got married to keep men away when she didn't want attention. Im more on your side of the spectrum, where I hate having to lie and pretend so that they take my "no" seriously.
it's basically that some men won't accept a woman's no, but they will accept the no of their man/boyfriend/etc, because men respect other men more than they respect women (even if they don't know them)
I hate the "waitress or bartender you've been eyeing for a while." They're just trying to do their job..... Ew i actually gasped when he called her a "brat" gross gross gross. This genuinely gives me anxiety I already have a fear of men interacting with me in public
If you read Roosh V's descriptions of sex, it's clear he doesn't even enjoy it and his partners most definitely don't. It's like the blandest most uncomfortable thing. "Just shove it in" uhhh yeah. Pretty obvious it's 100% about power and ego with these guys. They're so painfully insecure they hide behind a high body count to prove how "manly" and "attractive" they are despite being pretty gross and awkward. Yikes.
@@wingedyera Aragorn could pull off sulking in the corner of a bar, because he already had a girlfriend and didn't even want to attract a woman. ^ ^ Additionally, Aragorn is a good man, and not even acting mysterious and aloof for a moment changes that.
Also as a dude I really REALLY appreciate how Tara touches on the misconception on how dudes should always be dtf. I’ve been accused of being gay coS I didnt want to have sex. Or cheating. Or even sick. “I’m not in the mood” just didn’t seem to cut it. Thankfully my partner now gets it and she’s awesome and I’m gonna go give her a hug now. It makes you feel broken You’re not, my dudes. You’re a three dimensional being and sometimes there are other things better than sex. Or at least in that moment. Sometimes you’re not in the mood, or your emotions or stress is in the way, and that’s okay too. You’re not weak. You’re human. Thanks for making me feel seen, Tara. I love your channel.
Yeah. As much as I hate the victim blaming and slut-shaming of women, I have to say that these stereotypes reflect so poorly on men. you’re not helping men by treating them like sex crazed cavemen.
yes and when someone mentions it to them they defend themselves by saying ”they can’t be tamed” or that ”it’s intentional because they want multiple girls at once” and therefore don’t have one, when in reality women just don’t want to be with them. like you can maybe, MAYBE, get a woman to sleep with you using tactics like these but you sure as hell cannot get someone to date you
The two men who commented are living proof these pickup artists are just scam artists, and their advice clearly will not help you with getting a lady.😔
Someone mentions rape and both you douchbags' response is you have a problem/ dating is hard for guys too. And you don't see how displaced that response is? Fucking get help.
You can "admit" to essentially any crime in a book as long as there is plausible deniability that you are writing entertainment and not an autobiography.
@@CalamackLP Difference is in what you just wrote tho. This context is that the dude was writing an autobiography, one that’s naturally nonfiction by definition. This by no means is compared to the likes of “Lolita”, where not only are you supposed to see the protagonist/narrator as a monster and not sympathetic at all, but that the sexual stuff that unfortunately goes on in there is indeed fiction (albeit realistic fiction). Context means a lot, even in the eyes of the law.
What i hate the most about this is that they treat women as if we were a different species from them, so they have to learn how to comunicate with us, when what they have to learn is to accept a 'no' as an answer (not generalizing, i'm talking specifically about these pickup people).
men are trying so hard to get women , become rich, buy buGatti , buy diamonds to impress women and they attract "gold diggers" (i am talking about the tater thots ) when in reality good women just get attracted to you if you just treat them as humans , believe in equality and women basic rights , give importance and encourage their carrier goals and education and dont think of them as meat loaf or child breeding machine . basic kindness and respect is billion times more valuable than anything which these red pilled alpha men can never give
@@sirrys Yes, but that is the case with the majority of posters here, and why marriage rates are currently the lowest in the history of Western Civilization.
@@gulskjegglive yeah turns out when you give half the population a little freedom and a few rights they suddenly realise they don't have marry assholes just to survive financially. Who'd a thunk it huh..
Whoa whoa whoa whoaaaaa. Hold the phone. Stop everything. Being a Fat Outer-space Cyborg was an option, and I DIDN’T EVEN KNOW ABOUT IT?!?! Sign me tf up.
Cracks me up when guys complain about being “friendzoned.” Can’t imagine why that woman doesn’t want to sleep with you, when you’re describing being around her without having sex like it’s some sort of plague to be avoided.
A lot of guys who complain about being friendzoned lack the confidence or self-esteem to directly & openly pursue the person they have developed feelings for over time. It's not about sex always.
@@NorybDrol82but they act like being friends with her is a burden and feel entitled to her love/sex "Oh she tells me about her day and I'm sick of it" "oh she's having relationship problems with so and so. She keeps dating chads she doesn't want to date me. Good for her". Like why would you want to coerce someone to like you when they have no desire for you. You are friends for reasons. Either because of no attraction at all or if there is attraction your behaviors and goals aren't compatible
I’m not lying when I say that this seriously frightens me, as a 17 year old, to ever try to date. Like I would rather be completely alone than be used and abused like this. It’s genuinely disgusting.
Just think about what you want to get out of dating. If you’re not sure, Than I would not recommend it. Dating is overrated anyway. I hope that you can find a high value guy soon and treat him good as he will lead you to green pastures.
I'm 20 and I feel this way too. It annoys me that men think women face no difficulty in dating. Do they seriously think I'm delighted that so many men would be willing to objectify me but not have any interest in me as a person? But there ARE nice men (and women) out there. My cousins are all nice men who treat their girlfriends and wives well. My aunt remarried in her 50s to a lovely man who she met in an online game. Don't be in a rush to date, don't be afraid to be cautious if you do decide to try dating. Your boundaries are always what's important. And you can have lots of fun without dating. I've somehow managed to go my entire time at uni without dating anyone and I don't really regret it because instead I had a lot of time to spend with my friends and had the time to do all kinds of activities that I maybe wouldn't have the time for if I had a partner. I'm tempted to begin looking now, just because I'm curious about dating, but I don't regret spending my uni time on myself and my friends! Edit: and I thoroughly recommend the top comment! FDS has some excellent advice
Deadass, if you could pass as someone in their 30s, lie. The amount of gross ass men who recoil when I lie about being 37 helps thin the herd of them interacting with me
"Haven't you done that? When a girl's half asleep?" "No." This guy really wants to believe everybody is as nasty and entitled as him when it comes to women huh
You can see how shocked the interviewer was by his change in tone like he knew he was an incel but didn't expect him to so nonchalantly be like "don't we all force sex on half asleep women? Relatable amiright"
@Brazilian Goddess You shouldn't assume somebody is consenting to sex because they did earlier! An unconscious person cannot consent, and unless they had consented to "wake up" sex earlier he has just assaulted an unconscious woman.
@Brazilian Goddess They weren't in a sexual relationship, he had slept with her the night before. Those are not the same thing. They did not establish any boundaries because they were strangers, and she didn't consent to anything more than having CONSCIOUS sex with him one night.
@Brazilian Goddess nahhhh, love. No. Personally I love wake up sex... With explicit consent. If someone 'jammed it in' without any sort of prior conversation about it being OK with both parties, that's absolutely assault.
oh my g-d that third guy who goes up to a woman, gets rejected, talks abt the interaction like he's playing golf, and then ends it all by saying SHE WASN'T EVEN THAT ATTRACTIVE IN THE FIRST PLACE ???????? this is so fucking bonkers
Of course Gay and Ace people won't fit into this. He's not advising those people, and the word "Everytime a man and a woman" is used inside that specific context. Otherwise, there would be no such word as "Gay" or as "Asexual". They are outside the mayority of people.
@@adrianaheiler9794 Who said it would hindder you from interacting? You asume too much. Don't watch disney movies, since they stopped doing mythology and went into ideology long time ago. The guy says something that even yoguis from india have said for thousands of years. Even the jewish star symbolizes this mechanism. Attraction is just that. It deosn't mean necesarily sex, that is probably your assumption.
yes! this reminds me about the saying "everything in life is about sex, except for sex which is about power" to this I always thought: so it's all about power...
According to his logic, if you invite him onto your property, you then should have the legal right to pull his toenails out with pincers, and set his beard on fire. Since, after all, it was his fault for being enough of a dumb fuck to accept your invitation onto private property.
According to his logic he himself obviously wanted to get run over with a car. He asked for it. I mean he left his house and walked on the street. Because it definitely can't be the car drivers fault, i mean the driver was just choose to running him over with the car. You know drivers just naturally do that, they have this natural urge to run over people and take their lifes, thats totally normal. So they completely lose every control of themselves when they see people walking around, BeCaUsE drivers are not able to think and request their actions before they commit them, they get controlled by their hormones and urges. All Drivers are naturally murders, that's the way it is, victims of getting run over, should deal with it. It's not the drivers fault, these poor drivers just don't have self-control whenever they see people. We should definitely legalize running over people. If you don't want to be run over, just don't leave your house at all, problem solved. And If someone is trying to run you over, it's definitely your own fault, you didn't fight enough or you provoked it by being a person and walking outside.
And if you run him over once and he's still moving, it's like, well I already ran over him once, might as well do it again. Or maybe you can stop, get out of the car and do the ripping of the toenails with pincers thing before running over him again.
Somehow I feel like I'm ace too! Don't feel sexual attraction toward people, though I do find them cute/pretty, just not in a sexual way. Porn also isn't for me , it's just plain, boring. As if I'm watching two animals fuck. Truth be told I do not care in the slightest about this topic, so however others view me is none of my business, I don't need their validation! Good luck to you, and just take it easy :)
The worst thing about having a guy think hes in the friendzone is knowing that you have someone you thought was a friend that just wants to sleep with you and doesnt see you as a person
There was a tweet that perfectly stated something like this; “Dudes who think it’s insulting to be friendzoned obviously don’t know how it feels to be f***zoned. Is the possibility of us f***ing really my ONLY worth to you? Learn how to be friends with people.”
And as a girl I have to say thank you for being receptive. You won’t believe how many guys and girls will get defensive when we mention this. They’ll accuse us of blaming men’s oppression on men and talking red pill BS. Yes we’re blaming these issues on men. Because who were the ones who established these sexist gender roles in the first place? It’s like getting mad when we say that systemic racism was created by white people. Not all white people perpetuate the racism but it doesn’t change the fact that it was put in place by white colonizers. I swear some people just want to be obtuse so I have to thank you again for listening with an open mind. I honestly thought that talking about how the patriarchy hurts men would get more men interested in taking down the patriarchy because so many men complain that feminism ignores men’s issues. Then when we acknowledge it but don’t spare their egos by pretending that we don’t live in a male dominated society they flip out. Unfortunately you can’t babysit stupidity.
@@alyssapinon9670 The issue is really one of compassion. When we talk about toxic masculinity, we _blame_ men for it. When we talk about toxic feminity, we _support_ sufferers. We need to help men understand that they aren't locked into one expression of masculinity, not get mad at them for damaging themselves trying to fit in it.
YES!!! Always carry a weapon of some kind. In fact, I recommend carrying several different types of weapons as well as a flashlight that has a strobe function (it's great at disorienting and hurting the eyes of someone that's about to attack you) and can double as another weapon.
No, that’s rapists not PUAs I’ll leave the club with all her friends pretending I want her ugly friend while really wanting her while AMOGing her insecure boyfriend lol
I think these people are aware of their target audiences: Lonely and isolated incels. I'm pretty sure many of these Pick Up Artists don't do what they say, they just know their audience will identify with the idea of them being victims to a system that's "oppressing them", and painting women as the reason for their unhappiness. That's why I think we need more videos like these, exposing these awful people. Thank you!
Fun fact: when trying to write his rape guide on Danish women (he does this on all nationalities), Roosh found that the Nordic Social Welfare Model cockblocked him. Roosh came to the conclusion that women who aren’t as dependent on men for financial support are not susceptible to his narcissistic salesmanship. The greatness of Nordic Social Democracy truly knows no limits.
Hahahah yes. I'm Norwegian and I've dated quite a few men from outside Scandinavia and they are always shocked that I insist on paying for things myself. It seems to put some of them off their game. Never accepting a drink or always buy one back is apparently seen as power move by some people.
I am an Eastern European woman. I am disgusted of how western men are fetishizing us. We are not the house wifes who only care about our families and what men want. Eastern European women have strong characters, we know what we deserve and won't hesitate to leave a man who can't give us what we deserve in a heart beat. We do tend to follow traditional gender roles (like cooking and cleaning), that's how we are raised, but the same time we are entiteld, because that's also we are raised.
Beware because they are SO craving you, they dont even know any of you but already all asume you'll just welcome them with open arms. MGTOW and Allllll those guys are clearly writing this on their videos. "Date abriad or stay single" Puke
No one is "fetishizing" you any more than any other country is. Be quiet stip trying to blame a single group of people for everything. Its ridiculous and whiny
He is offensive in all ways and cultures, given how long it took the UK/West to respect economically independent individuals as people (even women!) current progress is pretty fast (depressingly slow of course, fragile if US job figures are anything to go by).
@@riorio745 it's rather annoying when you encounter such stereotypes the first few times, but then you get kind of used to it and just cringe a little when you see it. Whenever I see someone talking that way, I just assume that the person isn't particularly smart and probably tends to perpetuate other stereotypes as well.
My Russian friend is very intelligent and pretty and as soon as they hear her accent they treat her like a stupid little girl and then get offended when they get cussed out for being pretentious dorks.
This is what I'm currently going through 😭 my gay ass is crushing so hard on my best friend,,, lately she has been flirting back but I have no idea if it's genuine or like, as a joke😭
so much pain. i was in love w/ my close friend for YEARS and she went through a couple boyfriends in my time w/ her. well i eventually get a girlfriend, come out to her, aND IT TURNED OUT SHE HAD A CRUSH ON ME TOO lesbians please just say something it saves us so much grief lol
I had a friend turn down a guy and his response was to ask if 'she's a lesbian?', Also I knew another guy who was hitting on a girl, when she told him she was a lesbian, his response was to tell her 'he'll change that'. So yah, that shit does happen
Any time you have to qualify something as legal or not, you've lost the argument. For anyone who says, "It's not illegal to talk to underage people." Obviously has a complete lack of self awareness. It's not illegal to scream loudly in a public library but it is still highly frowned upon and discouraged for good reason. It's rude and inappropriate. Legality isn't the only thing to be considered when addressing the issues of how men and boys interact with girls and women. The fact that these "pick up artists" haven't picked up on that point is truly disturbing. Also. If you have to repeatedly beg, manipulate, and harass someone to have sex with you, you don't deserve the title of seduction artist because clearly you're not good at seduction. BTW: Having sex with men doesn't stop them from becoming violent. In fact, some men constantly use sex as violence...
i find it almost comical how that one guy is talking about “legalise r** so women take better care of themselves like they would of their property” while actual women walk around at night clawd up with their keys like some wanna-be wolverin n have the police on speed dial n wear trainers instead of heels so they can run when necessary
I took up riding my longboard to school in grade 11 and 12 ( and still) So I had something to use as a weapon incase I needed to defend myself, same reason I have a big,metal canteen water bottle in my work bag.i always text my boyfriend when I'm leaving work. Never walk around alone with my hair up cause its easier for someone to grab and hold you , wearing pants with belts because it requires more effort to undress compared to skirts. Always walk against traffic so I can cars approaching. And my phone case is non existent.... It's amazing how this man thinks women are out there not trying to defend themselves??
These men say "Why are women so paranoid lmao, they are exageratting the danger, silly girls". Then after the crime "It's your fault for being to trusting and not being cautius enough, you know it's dangerous". Might as well just disintegrate, not even splitting in half is good enough.
I feel like if anyone of you are American you are missing out on a pivotal right of owning weapons that will actually and accurately disable an assailant in the blink of an eye and can be carried in your purse or on your person in a pocket. If you are over the age of 21 and in some states 18 there is no reason you shouldn’t be carrying a pistol. The men who would do such evil things don’t deserve a few scratches or some burning eyes, they deserve to be in a trauma unit or dead. Do not gamble with your life. Men carry pistols to protect themselves from men.
The only thing more scary about how much of this part of the manosphere out and out hate women, is the fetishization of Eastern European, East and SE Asian women 🤢. Stay safe ladies.
The threat is real. I've seen those "men" commenting this so often. MGTOW are also good at this. Crying about how women are gold-diggers and burdens, while saying "date abroad or stay single"..... Meaning, dating women who still have to be dependent of men, and are still docile etc. F disgusting. It really shows how they truly are.
As a Romanian, I despise the way (especially) Western men tend to fetishize Eastern European girls. The fact that EE girls are, on average, less "feminist" is a sad reality that comes from living in a horrifyingly patriarchal society. The fact that these men desire an Eastern European culture - one that "breeds" "nicer" women - frightens me, as these cultures also have: incredibly high rates of domestic violence, a huge volume of cervical cancer cases (women have limited access to medical resources), highest rates of teen mothers, terrifyingly prevalent rape culture. Being a woman in Eastern Europe is a nightmare (at least in my experience). The fact that these men choose "having more approachable women" OVER these women's overall wellbeing is sinister. Also, I've always found it interesting that countries with less "wokeness" (E.g. Eastern Europe, let's say Romania) are the same countries with limited access to education (highest rates of illiteracy, highest rates of kids that don't go to school). I don't think it's a coincidence. American men should be thankful they have feminists. It means that their women got the chance to go to school, to learn, to think, to be happy, to be safe, to choose. This shows that men like these don't really see women as people deserving of joy, but as pieces of meat for their own consumption. Sickening.
Terry Crews has said that most men don't see women as "all the way human" and your comment as well as the video really implemented that idea as being more true than I ever would have thought. Clearly these types of men see us as trophies as well as servants, we're not human who think and feel, and have wants desires and needs but simply exist to please them and they can do whatever it is they want to us. That being said I have been very fortunate to grow up where the majority of my experiences with men have been normal but we still have do far to go and the fact that they take advantage of women in desperate situations just ... Breaks my heart.
I guess the general American man has no issues with feminism at all. It’s about toxic feminism that’s regarded as an issue. Anything toxic is not good. Toxic masculinity gets a lot of exposure for a good reason.
Well said. Most of my roommates in art school (animation major) were women hailing from either eastern Europe or China and all were frustrated by the expectation to act "submissive" to western men. My male friends, who considered themselves guys who respected and shared equal tasks with women, would often view these women differently, like more "child like" despite the intense dedication these women had for their craft, spending from 7am to 3am in animation labs to perfect their senior thesis. It made me so ticked and I empathized especially with the gay women I roomed with because often they couldn't openly pursue the women they liked and had to bend to social pressures even away from home. Happy to say one of my roommates has married her college sweetheart and both ladies are doing wonderfully.
I liked hbomberguy's observation about Roosh and his ilk: many of them tell their viewers that sex itself isn't even that gratifying (not a surprise if you are just in it for your own orgasm and/or bro points). So, their whole 'community' is built around a never-ending chase for something they don't even want, which they can never abandon for fear of being judged as less of a man. What a fucking sad existence.
I love how tipps for women are:look him in the eye, smile, ask about his hobbies While for men its: invade her space, make her feel bad about herself, be a creep. Just smile people, if they dont smile back they arent interested and that probably wont change by annoying them.
Not true. My girlfriend of almost 4 years now I realized must have zero self-esteem or something. Each time a guy meets her stating intentions like wanting to be friends where ever it may be that they met. Soon after getting her number if they start flirting and sending hearts and w.e. I'm like uh... did you tell him you have a bf? She's like yea but it's not like its red hearts it's green hearts. I'm like uh..... no. You're not allowed to see anybody that you have to keep repeating your boundaries to. It's that simple. But it's like I'm speaking a foreign language to her and all they need to do be is be persistent and nice. Even its at the point she is clearly annoyed by it, it can go on for weeks. She's naive enough that this has happened 3, 4 times now and sure it's been over like 3 years but still. She never ever gets a clue about it. He started telling her I AM the red flag for being jealous and controlling. I was so angry. I'm like ok well if that were the case would I have no problem with you hanging out with people, guys, girls you name it, a guy I KNOW you think is cute I don't care you spend time with etc I don't have an issue in general? even going to a guy's house? NO. Obviously, it's how THIS particular guy treats you. Recently she told me it's just not what crosses her mind that he's hitting on her. It's frustrating. How many suggestive comments and green hearts and asking you to hang out does it take? So basically what I am saying is that it is sad but true. People prey on low self-esteem and especially like my gf who is kind and has a hard time saying no to people. She is getting better at asserting her boundaries but boy does it still worry me. I try to tell her well If you would get mad at me if I ever ignored something you said or annoyed at me for something then nobody else should be doing that! Sigh. ok sorry, I guess that's more of a rant. I guess what im trying to say is some people do have a hard time with someone that is merely being persistent so I have to imagine it does work on some girls even if said girl is not happy about it. It sounds crazy but I now imagine this works on low self-esteem more often than I realize. She has never and would never cheat on me and always shows me the texts but only after it got to the point she cant get rid of the guy. I'm always like uh.. yea but... this went on for a month or two... you have to work on your boundaries.
@@vivvy_0 What? Why? I am just saying some poeple are so naive they never expect people to flirt with them or its a self-esteem issue. It can drive me crazy sometimes but its also a refreshing quality as most people are often playing mind games. Maybe you misunderstood me? I mean yea its annoying but its only happened a few times.
@@OSGondar I used to be exactly like this; never even registered the flirting most of the time. Sometimes would give hints that I wasn't interested, or tell them I wanted to be friends, but I'd keep talking to them until they would get angry or explicitly ask for sex. Sometimes for a year or more.. I guarantee it works on girls with low self esteem and weak boundaries 😢
@@iloveyoulawliet179 I'm sorry that true, it sucks. In my case In particular, because that girl and I ended up breaking up recently after 4 years. The fact is you can't have a healthy relationship if you don't enforce and respect your boundaries. Let alone respect other's boundaries. It hopefully will become natural to speak your truth and be yourself. No one should have priority, yes you can take turns sure, but overall it should be a collaboration. When people are selfish and self-absorbed its not going to end well. I'm sorry, you have to put it with this. All I can say is you loving yourself and being honest is the only way you get to express the best version of yourself and hopefully be happier. Don't be afraid to speak up! Sure not everyone will like you anymore but you will have closer relationships or friendships if you do. I learned all too late why this relationship was always going to fail. Its my fault too I always played into her needs and ignored my own. After years of that of course I was unhappy. But I also always felt frustrated how she likes to please everyone and only acts like herself with me in private. So it makes sense people would be able to push what they want on her but the US in anything was pretty much nonexistent. It was either I'm helping her or she's not there for me and dealing with something I should help with. It was never my turn or a collaboration. The thing with the guys was just one area where that happened often. It didn't make sense for the longest time. If you don't like that dude block him? you DONT have to go see him wth. In my opinion, should she have just blocked those people and moved on? Like how were they more important than her actual partner who is always there for her. It never made sense. I get it now, yes. Part of it is the boundaries but it was a bunch of stuff. Anyways sorry! I'm over-communicating. TMI? ok, I don't know you so well so I'm just gonna say I hope you learn to push for that best version of yourself no matter who likes it or not! Don't be afraid to say no. Have a nice day =)
what do you mean "has to"... pierce is an opportunistic prick, he will say whatever he believes people want to hear to gain clout.... so that later he could say outrageous things and gain notoriety .... and continue the cycle... it was ABSOLUTELY feigned outrage and nothing more.... total fraud
As a Latina, I also hate this romanticism/fetishism/generalizing of women from a certain country or general area. I hate that Latinas are seen as "sexy, spicy, exotic" and that they will fulfill all a man's sexual wishes while also simultaneously cooking, cleaning, and taking care of his kids as if we were some wild animal they were able to tame into submission. We're just people, people with complex and individual personalities just like the rest of the human population
It's not romantization. It's objectification and degradation. I'm Slavic as well and I hate stereotypes connected to us. But it's hillarious because their fantasy of a subservient, anti-feminist, hot slavic girl couldn't be further from the truth. I don't know any women willing to give up their dreams and careers for a man.
@@GLamoRousCooKie I think I used an incorrect word for the meaninng of my comment, objectification is much better term describing what I was writing about, so thanks I’ll edit it
I get a lot of backlash in private conversation with people about how bad the patriarchy is for us men. Men and women alike, queer or in between, a lot of people don't see how toxic masculinity is written by men, for men, and it's bad for everyone
It is! I'm a transwoman and it took me a long time to realize what I was feeling actually was. Like my parents didn't raise me with the whole you have to be this way to be a guy, I just internalized stuff from culture and thought I should be ashamed of myself and keep things a secret cuz I guess aren't supposed to do this, like that, ect
But men get shamed for getting their emotions out at all and anything bad that happens with a man is played for laughs. So on one hand you’ve got feminists criticising men for toxic behaviour and on the other hand the patriarchy prevents men from ever being vocal about their issues. Hence there is no solution to this problem.
@@RaymondStormbl3ssed calling out behavior isn't the same as calling out the person. (Now the internet isn't great at that distinction because on the internet people are terrible at nuance) But you can't change behaviors unless you call them out so ppl see and recognize the harm they cause. And that's part of feminism and gender equality, calling out our systems and culture for the harm they cause all genders. To charge things you need to know what you are trying to change. Whether that be toxic masculinity, internalized misogyny, homophobia, ect.
@@uberlephrad8218 Duh, that's what the list is for. He investigated the microbial makeup of the dirt in those countries in order to determine which ones are safe.
sorry for any mistakes, english isn't my native language I actually dated a guy that have purchased a course of a pickup artist while we were together. In a incredible short period of time he went from this nice and educated boy to the biggest jerk on earth. I wish I could tell that I dumped him immediately but I believed that "it was just a phase" and he would change. EVERYTHING in that relationship was a manipulation, my mental health at the end was inexistent.
@NOT ALLOW .....because women don't want to be raped?? Where the fuck did you just pull all of that from?? "We would like not to be raped please." "Holy shit! Misandry and daddy issues much???"
@UCpXnOaZfqz-4Osw8zMLPqeg “we would like to NOT be raped please” yes.... anyone can be a criminal even your own family members. Being raped should be banned just like being murdered it just is not socially acceptable.
I’m a minor and when adults approached me when I was alone I internally panicked, it’s scary. Like a guy complimented my hair and that’s nice but...why do that on the street while I’m walking
It actually kinda scares me that I've been approached by older guys like that only when I were underage. And those guys never take no as an answer, they keep asking for your phone number, even when you're talking to someone. Never been in such a situation after I turned 18, that's f king creepy
Theres a boundary to everything. Complimenting a woman based off her clothing choice and something she can control should be accepted, complimenting something sexual or about her body shape is weird and creepy.
I’m so thankful that I never slipped into that deep manosphere mentality after getting dumped. I fell off and got lost in the sauce for a while because they were reinforcing my hurt and angry thoughts but I’m lucky I stumbled across channels that call them out for what they are like Hasan, Noah, and now your channel. Super appreciative of what y’all do
@@SkunkAnimations that's so cool! I actually do a fair amount of crazy makeup too (definitely not as incredible as what you've got there lol), but I am a huge fan of drag style makeup lol covering my eyebrows and doing crazy contouring XD I get a lot of weird looks, but who da fuq wants to look normal anyway? :P
The really tragic core of the thing is that what the target demographic usually really needs isn't sex. It's therapy and some better friends and maybe a pet. Sexual frustration alone isn't enough to make a guy listen to Roosh V. They aren't just promising to get you laid. They're promising to make you powerful, confident, and successful. The women are just a way of keeping score.
That was me at 15. I had no confidence and felt like a complete loser because I couldn't believe women would like me for me. I spent the next two years trying to follow these guys, and it took a while to unlearn the monolithic thinking about women.
@@kylewilliams8114 Oof, sorry you had to go through that. It's so messed up that we measure men by who they sleep with and it contributes to so much real shitty behavior.
@@MsFeyCreature Agreed, in my case, growing up in hyper conservative mormon land, being attractive was like the end all be all. Not even about getting sex. I'm just really, really glad I didn't get sucked down into the incel world. I got away from the pickup artists into more "Relationship artists(?)" which actually taught some good stuff, life make women feel safe and secure. But it was still about addressing symptoms, not causes. It turned out to be attachment issues because of bad parenting the whole time!
Ill admit I read some of these books and seen some videos back in the limewire days. The underlying theme I found was become social, make friends, create a support group to bolster your confidence, use that to get girls, find a good woman. The whole pickup act tries to find an exploit in that chain and go straight to getting girls and use that to create your external confidence which is only a facade. Back to the point that "DoucheV can stop shooters by teaching them game," its not Game or p*ssy that's stopping incel rage, its a sense of community and worth, although sports or crafts, skills of some sort would be much better than banging randos for validation.
As a man, I can confirm that we do, in fact, not think about sex every 2 minutes. Half the time I'm thinking about what I want to eat for lunch/dinner! The other half is spent trying to remember what the fuck I ate the day before so I'm not eating the some thing everyday...
Its problem for you now but when girls like you stop getting attention all of sudden its where have all the good men gone or men are to afraid approach me lol
@@Logan30001 Do men really believe this? I am in my 40s now and the attention is now fortunately going away and I can walk to the store or library unhindered, and I love being left the fuck alone when I walk the street! For you ladies reading this, it gets better eventually when you age-out of this silliness.
It's disturbing that pick up artists love targeting women who don't have the same first language as them. Also, in regards to the guy with the video game you know you're sexist when you make Piers Morgan look like somebody who respects women.
even at the ripe age of 24, i still have a hard time not being offended when my partner doesn’t want to have sex. it’s that “men are always dtf” expectation embedded in me still, even though i know better. it’s something i have to actively work to unlearn
@@lh1822 it's somewhat understandable, especially if you are a person that holds the emotional link between partners that happens during sex. Plus both men and women have insecurities, especially physical ones, that get triggered when our partner does not want to have sex. As a man I can tell you tho, rest assured, we still like you a alot, even though we do not want to have sex all the time. We'll still cuddle and kiss you, unless your boyfriend doesn't really show physical affection, ot he just sucks
Yeah, I wil always give sex immediately, because I have the feeling that otherwise it complicates the relationship. It is one of the most important building block of the relationship for healthy people. It’s also about losing my sexual energy inside the relationship, instead of outside the relationship. Having sex every day makes me feel less interested in other girls because I have no sexual power left.
I once read a post that said something along the lines of "Your first thought is shaped by societal expectations, your thoughts after that are your own" which was pretty helpful in recognizing and unlearning these "expectations"
A lot of these expectations come from a pre-feminist world where they benefitted men at the expense of women. But now that freedom is much more widespread, they’re obsolete. Social constructs don’t go away easy, so now they’re freewheeling and even the ones they used to serve aren’t safe from the collateral damage.
23:28 oh oh, i know the three purposes of women! (This also applies to non-women as well, believe it or not) 1.) Existing for themselves 2.) Refusing to be treated like objects 3.) Living their lives the best they can (Being dorky and sarcastic aside, i hate these pickup "artists". Calling them artists is an insult to genuine artists)
I finally played Super Seducer and it's...a lot
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I’m so sorry
Yes. Yes it is.
'dating is hard' as an autistic bisexual weeb, I can safely say you have (probably) never witnessed how fucked up it can be.
@Tara Mooknee this is not toxic masculinity, this is men being confused about masculinity and you're making it worse by calling masculinity toxic. Stop men shaming. Masculinity is great, feminism isn't about breaking down men. That's toxic feminism. Can't you see that men these days are confused because of men shaming? They don't know how to be a real men. They think they should be alpha males and fake confidence, they should just be themselves without shame.
@@djesun1 Oh good another one of you lugnuts so fragile you hear the words "toxic masculinity" and think that means "masculinity = bad" instead of "a bad **version** of masculinity."
You are lying, ignorant, or stupid. Take your pick.
these people look like they use aftershave as a personality trait
Shh they don't know it isn't a personality trait don't break their weak hearts
This made me cackle a bit too loudly and wake the dogs 🤭
@@sunsetkitty2932 hehe woke the baby
I immediately thought of AXE. Because the aftershave might not be enough to cover the smell of their cringe.
They look like what Lynx aftershave would look like if it took human form
Dudes who call themselves "Alpha's" unironically only understand what no means when it comes to being pegged.
Ha ha !! Top comment :)
but was it "no" or a "yes", thought? ))
Dudes who call themselves 'Sharks' and 'Predators' or 'Dragons' should
be laughed about. Alpha-Males do not even exist.
Its literally a Myth.
@@slevinchannel7589 in all ways but physical i am a wolf. yip.
@@slevinchannel7589
As a werewolf, can confirm. Neither us nor our more primitive cousins (actual wolves) subscribe to that belief. In actuality, it’s dad who runs the show. We follow dad out of respect and we watch his back till the end. Dad doesn’t run the show cos he’s the biggest and meanest. He runs the show with love and respect.
That’s a TRUE alpha way.
“I have a boyfriend!” “You’re just saying that so I’ll stop.” Omg. So, so, so much wrong with this.
Even if she was, DOESNT THAT SAY SOMETHING?! THAT MEANS SHE WANTS YOU TO STOP WHETHER SHE HAS A BOYFRIEND OR NOT
Some people (because both genders do it) just can't seem to take a fricking hint, I swear!
That didn't sit well with me either. This dude is why women do not just leave their drinks alone or uncovered.
“You’re just saying that so I’ll stop.” Alright, so you've demonstrated that you KNOW she wants you to stop. SO STOP! God I fucking hate the entitlement and breach of boundaries these assholes display.
Like even if it was a lie, she's still not consenting
I had a guy say something similar like this to me. WTF is wrong with men. Doesn't matter the reason, no still means no.
When I was 14 I accidentally made eye contact with a guy (an adult man) when I was walking home. He followed me for multiple blocks after that thinking I was interested. I had to yell at him to get him to stop. Repeat after me: Eye contact can and often is accidental and does not mean they are interested in you.
When I was in my early 20s I was at an art exhibition taking photos of the artwork, a man started talking to me about photography, giving me some tips because he supposedly was a photographer. In my country it's pretty common to talk to people you have just met, so it wasn't something weird. The conversation was quiet normal, just about photography and the exhibition. We continued seeing the rest of the exhibition while talking until suddenly he tried to walk around hand in hand with me, when I didn't allowed it he said something about kissing me. I was so shocked. How the hell he could think that talking about the exhibition we both and a bunch of people were seeing meant I was interested in dating him or something?
So what should a man take as an indication of interest?
@@betrousaltaweel actually gesturing for you to come over or explicitly flirting. People accidentally make eye contact all the time, it is not enough to decide that means you should stalk them. I was also a child, which makes the story more horrifying.
@@sowhatphie facts
Oh god, I had similar happen to me when I was 16. I was on my way home from a stroll when a guy stopped me on the street, asking for directions. I gave them the directions. He then invited me for a coffee, I turned him down and he kept at it. And kept at it. And kept at it.
His argument, “why are you smiling if you don’t like me?” And “why don’t you just walk away, then?”
There was a very good reason for that last one. I didn’t want the guy to know where I lived. I could have walked in another direction but that’d mean making my way through backstreets and that was even worse.
So I waited until he walked away before heading home.
I am sure he would have followed me.
Men like this really be like, “Enthusiastic consent is stupid and useless, I can just read body language and if she’s not into I’ll stop”
Women shows obvious disinterest and tries to disengage: “Don’t be a brat lmao 🤪”
I just got to the “how to stop r**e” article and I- 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢
@@Mikey-jv5fv Ikr, I had to take a break from the vid after that one
@@kodabuck225 yeah I definitely needed a breather after that and when he tried to argue that the piece was actually satire. It was a lot to say the least
That's because consent has a finality that interpreting body language doesn't. If someone says no, you can't pretend not to understand that. But you can pretend that a woman shifting away and looking uncomfortable is actually just because she's intimidated by you and she just needs more of your time to warm up and manipulate further.
I wish I was Hashinshin's carpet is right. Reading body language isn't bad. It's great to have guys understanding the subtle hints of 'no'. Not every girl is going to 'enthusiastically consent'. It's not so clear when you're trying to find out if a shy person is actively pursuing you. I don't like that you said 'consent', as if not 'enthusiastically consenting' means you aren't consenting. I'm hinging the emphasis on 'enthusiastically' because I really am not 'enthusiastically passionate, energetic' or otherwise about men in general.
I mean I watch these YT channels about picking up women sometimes. It's nice to see how men think sometimes. It's weird how things that seem obvious aren't obvious to some men but trying to see men psychoanalyse me is interesting...for five minutes before I click off. It's cringe worthy but not inherently bad.
'Kissing her, saying OMG this is wrong, we shouldn't be doing this! and then kissing her again' ... my lad, that only works in fanfiction
This man straight up tryna brand the cheap fanfic trope as his own lol
Man if your going to do it at least credit wattpad
@@PolrisTired OMG! PLAGIARISM!
hence, "fiction"
Never thought i'd say this, but even Twillight has a more believable story than this shite.
Man says something incredibly sexist and rapey.
Everyone: "What the hell is wrong with you?"
Man: "Oh...it was a JOKE!! Hahaha, funny right? I can't believe you fell for it...hah.."
Schrodinger's Douchebag
One who makes douchebag statements, particularly sexist, racist or otherwise bigoted ones, then decides whether they were “just joking” or dead serious based on whether other people in the group approve or not.
Source: Urban Dictionary
@Brazilian Goddess it still doesn't give them the right behave so bad.
-"Schrödinger's Twat" is better because it rhymes--
@@scarletpumpernickel3279
Well done, you well read awesome person.
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Being a female doctor in Latvia, I feel like having contributed to the book "Don't bang Latvia". During my medical studies, whenever a guy wouldn't leave me alone, I started telling them how fascinating I find the dissection of corpses in anatomical theatre. Now that usually did the trick.
Doctor, you are a legend ❤
Legendary
Are we long-lost sisters? I do the same, except I studied zoology and would talk about the animal dissections I had to do, or share disturbing/disgusting nature facts (like how anglerfish mate-that one usually shuts the guys right up)
@@carolyns4519 How argonaut octopi mate is also a good one. As an idea for you. The male basically rips off his reproductive...appendage, and just tosses it to the female. It's an arm with basically sperm in it, and the females are like 5-10x the size of the males, so they can't mount them lol. The arm then locks into place basically to inseminate the female, like, inside. Weird, huh? Talking about a creature ripping off what is comparable to a human male phallus will help spoil their "mood", as well, hopefully. I encourage looking into it though if you haven't already, that shit is so fascinating to me. (Sorry if I just explained something to you that you already knew, I figured if you already knew, someone else could read and learn at least. ^^;;)
Usually? I need admit that it would spark even more interest! 😅
He literally negged all British women.
A guy bullied me on a school trip in college for 6 hours (field trip, the whole time, from the beginning of the trip to returning to the hotel, he never stopped, 6 hours), things like "make me a sandwich" or "no one cares what you have to say, you're a woman" and so on the whole time, just to me. When I finally snapped he said "women like being mistreated" and when I told him "not this woman, you need to stop", he was like "why are you acting so crazy, can't take a joke" and the next day all the guys, including those who were present for all his BS, shunned me as being a bitch. Again, 6 hours. At first I was letting it roll off, throwing some jabs back at him, but he wouldn't stop and then I felt suckered into feeding his verbal abuse that I thought were jokes but then felt sincere. Such a huge piece of crap.
😬
WHAT A PIECE OF SHIT!!!!! I’m sorry you had to go through that!
What the hell! They are all so stupid and toxic. I'm so sorry you had to go through that :(
You don't need them because you are an independent, intelligent and smart woman! Screw those douchebags
@@jasminkln Yeah. Years ago. Just meant I did a lot of stuff alone in a foreign country (most of the girls complained it was too hot or outright lied about when they were going out, but I hesitantly figured that was a different issue, most of them all came from the same region of the US I did not).
Only time it hindered me was hiking a mountain. I couldn't go alone for safety and the guys that also wanted to climb tried to leave me. Some locals helped me coming down. Way too nice. Saved me.
@@SabrinaRina that sounds horrible :/
It's comedic to see a paid woman act super into this guy during his video. She's acting so unnaturally. Do men really think we just sit around worshipping them while they talk? LMAO
I think that's what they hope for.
they are a typical narcissist. They don't want you, they want your attention and praise.
yeah that was painful 😭
@@Whatever16167 100% this they just want the validation we give
@@haileyquinnmodel Oh for sure
Pickup artist training a client: "Here's how to prey on a woman's low self-esteem."
Pickup artist training another pickup artist: "Here's how to prey on a man's low self-esteem."
You sum it up perfectly, actually
Underrated comment
Roosh actually converted to orthodox Christianity a couple years ago and he no longer supports this lifestyle nor the books he wrote about it. I really think the creator should have did a bit more research
Roosh actually converted to orthodox Christianity a couple of years ago now. He no longer supports these views nor the books he wrote about it.
@Deus Vult. Sorry for misunderstanding but i dont get where the Asperger’s bit came from? Do these people specifically target people with autism?
I love how it’s both “women shouldn’t be trusted because they don’t even say no to men, then turn around and claim it’s rape” AND “if they say no, just keep pushing. Call her naughty, that’ll break down her defenses and it’s the quickest you can have sex with a girl without out right kidnapping and raping her hahaha!” Monsters.
If a man would call me naughty or a brat I would run for my life. Gross.
No man in his right mind is doing this. Get real. Men look down on p.u.a. bullshit. That stuff is for lazy ass men that want to play victim. Women have sex with who they choose, be better than the guy next to you if you want pussy. No of this shit is necessary anyways. If a chick wants to bang you she will make all the moves and do all the work.
Coercion is not consent
This is why PUAs are real pieces of shit.
Why is it the guy's job to do all this stuff?
"if rape was legal women would take better care of themselves" this guy has never talked to a woman otherwise he would know how many damn cautions we take going out
Sounds like something the Taliban would say.
I actively take minimal care of myself because that way I avoid harassment. So I don't understand this argument.
Amid the pandemic, I had my hair short. Like a boy cut. And sometimes I felt at ease that I would not get harassed because if people can’t see my face, I thought they will think I’m a guy. There’s really a difference. When some people thought I was a guy, the way they look at me is different. I can’t explain. But I felt more comfortable.
@@infidelheretic923 dude even they wouldn't say that
@@sanafarooq9828 Well why don't you ask those girls who are fleeing Afghanistan ?
I'm sick to my stomach. He literally admitted to r*ping someone like it was nbd.
"More people will die unless you give men sexual options" bro that's not a solution proposition that's a full-on threat
Yikes, I guess pickup artists won’t procreate, as they should
what happened to them when they were kids, what does lead once innocent boys to become so deranged
Its just bloody ridiculous, women manage to go without sex and not assault people.
Or just things you want in general, im not about to go out and rob a Porshe or a designer handbag out of entitlement (not that i particularly want either of these things but you get the picture).
They need to grow TF up we dont always get everything we want and thats just life!
I mean, thet have more options, sex dolls exist
@@vivvy_0 prob their fathers being just like them
The people that say " women are now encouraged to be fat, unattractive, not take care of them selves" are the same people that think women were solely made into existence to please men 😂😂😂.
Entitlement is not attractive.
edit: the practice your smile everyday killed me😂😂😂😂
If that's what it takes to be ignored, go all out.
There is no reason to date or engage with men, they just keep proving that they are to be avoided at all cost.
THEY do this to themselves!
But then I'll be called a misandrist for wanting to avoid them, due to the immense volume of proof that they cant be trusted.
Better stay safe and sane.
Avoid them.
A v o i d.
“cross her boundaries, mug her.”
i shouldn’t have laughed at that as hard as i did
If he tries that crap with me he may end up being kicked in the balls. If a man is not being a " gentleman " I am under no obligation to act like a lady.
@@candacecasey5634 And that’s on Period ✨✨✨
@@candacecasey5634 Men shouldn't be a gentlemen. That's some 18th century bull crap
I cannot overstate how much the phrases "accuse her of being a naughty girl" and "don't be a brat" dry me up faster than if someone lit my genitals on fire.
hahhaha i love this line
Sure, Alex "Bottom"
Damn...with that last name, I don't believe you!
Honestly, those are fighting words lmao
Kinky shit is hot but in these cases IT IS NOT KINK. KINK IS ABOUT TRUST. I hate how kink is misused and abused which can REALLY hurt people :(
"Now I am scared to accidentally glance at men." I wish this was a joke. 17/10 for the bandana solution.
This just terrifies me because it further confirms that there are a large community of men who are only resisting raping women because it’s illegal. Not because they care about women or in any way view women as humans instead of objects.
Now in addition to hidding behind the ''it's a joke!'' excuse, the new trend is ''it's satire!'',
Which is as dense and pathetic: but they are still as dangerous as before.
And he isn't the only guy that thinks it's ok to do whatever they want when a woman is sleeping.
(She isn't aroused, she isn't agreeing: she is alseep!! )
Why they think this is remotely ok is sickening. But in their empty heads, it's ok to do that to someone who is sleeping, it's because she can't say NO. So just ram it in there and pretend it's not men's fault,
"Me cant control myself' ok guys should be kept in cages then?
Dont act like a human being, dont get treated like one. Simple.
I've got something bothersome to tell you about the history of our species, then.
@@whatsupinspace854 oh yes, please tell us of your troglodyte ape rapists ancestors! we can't wait to hear how the "civilised male" has "evolved" and invented science so he can become a legal rape-ape predator!!! the way you treat women show what kind of respect your mother deserves. We all wish she had more ambition and self-esteem than dick...it's obvious it didn't turn out well for her
Why is “if a girl looks at you that means she likes you” the mindset of every single male in a club. Gotta look at the floor i guess.
5 months after posting this comment I am still getting replies from women sharing their experiences of men making them feel uncomfortable (at least). If you are a man reading this, there are so many small steps you can take to make women feel safer in general. Please be respectful of consent, personal space and boundaries, and when in doubt, assume women do not want you to approach them. Women have had to make changes to their everyday lives (crossing the road, not walking at night, carrying rape alarms, to name a few) that make them feel safer- please make small changes to your behaviour to make women feel safe too. It is a small ask that has huge consequences. And to those asking me for dating advice like I'm qualified or something- get a dating app, meet people through friends or common interests. The club is not the only place you can meet people. CONSENT & RESPECT PLEASE, ALWAYS
They win if you do that :/
but if you look at the floor... Doesn't it mean that you like the floor?(if we keep the same logic)
Then they’re gonna think you’re nervous and approach you anyway 😒
@@kupku Listen, the floor does more to support you and is more honest than most pick up artists, so don’t knock it just yet!
@@GOFFBITZH666 Can't agree more, ma friend. The floor never let me down.
The one dude said that girl wasn’t that attractive as if he doesn’t look like a weasel himself 😐
Don't insult weasels like that
@@sadluc424 weasel be cute and friendly and don't go negging you.
yes! he was not good looking! that small chin of his! lol
a weasel with orange foundation
@benjamin ollis people in glass houses should perhaps not go throwing stones? If you don't have anything nice to say, maybe say nothing at all. Xx
The only true way of picking up women:
1. Groom your feather plume.
2. Once eye contact is established, slowly approach her while bobbing your head rythmically. The closer you are to a 4/4 rythm, the better.
3. Once you got as close as 1 meter, spin around, first clockwise, then counter clockwise. Keep repeating if she remains skeptic.
4. If she decides to go home with you, present every blue item in your household.
5. ???
6. Profit!
xD
As an avid fan of nature documentaries I appreciate this!
@KuaX /whoosh
Nature doc and old school South Park. I swoon.
Thanks, gotta try this!
Definitely a type of guy I'd go out with 🥵
"Alternatively, you could genuinely be her friend & find someone else."
And - *spoilers* - it turns out that talking, hanging out with & acting normally around women is a great way to get better at talking, hanging out with & acting normally around women. What's more, it seems that some women are friends with other women, so you might - just maybe - meet more women.
Exactly. I’ve learned this this past year after being rejected by a friend I had feelings for, and our friendship is ever-growing and strong and we’ve talked about her friends and I meeting sometime
Yep. After taking a dance class that was almost all women, and getting to know them and interacting with them in a normal way, women tended to like me more. I even got to reject a girl who was interested in me, because I couldn't trust her because she was on a different team in my robotics class. And was only interested in me as a potential boyfriend, and was trying to make me jealous of another guy she was interested in. I would have been totally fine with her being with me and another guy, or with just being friends, but she skipped being friends and went straight to trying to make me jealous. I'm glad most people are not like that.
That was a strange experience. I kinda wish I had asked for some of those girls' numbers, as quarantine started suddenly at the end of my senior year, and I only had my best friend's phone number. Consequently, I haven't talked with a woman outside my immediate family for more than a couple sentences in over a year. It sucks. I'm sure at least one of the girls I knew was interested in women's fashion, and since I'm genderfluid and tend to dress extremely femininely, I'm sure we could have had quite a few good conversations about fashion. Or just about any other mutual interest. It's just that all of my friends are men who are not interested in women's fashion.
Some of us are better as friends than as lovers, not everyone is made to be together in a romantic way. And if you have a good friend of the opposite sex, the best way to lose them is to start something more.
funny how roosh talks about eastern european women the same way eastern european men talk about filipinas. its almost like the problem isnt the women
Also I am sure that the reason the girls were apparently so eager to go on a date with him, was because he was foreign and as such, a curiosity. I bet that was short-lived once they knew more about him than "I'm American".
Also white men fetishizing black women calling them shit like chocolate and using them as some kind of exotic trophy
as per usual..
@@Crouteceleste Yes, and some might see him as merely a ticket to the US
Roosh converted to orthodox Christianity a couple of years ago now and he no longer supports these views nor the books he wrote about it
"don't bang latvia"
me, an asexual latvian: *oh thank god*
this is my favourite comment
This needs more likes 😤
WHEEZE
And then me, who is a Lithuanian female, IS A TArgREt
I'm just praying that he didn't make one about the country I live in and I'm too scared to look it up!
I am a woman from Russia, I'm a feminist and (what a coincidence!) I have 4 cats (but 1 is mine and 3 i'm fostering), I also have self-respect... And all my female friends are feminists too( To be honest fed up with those outdated degrading stereotypes about girls from my region
The stereotypes are disgusting. Eastern European women get fetishized as much as Asian women.
I was literally asked "low-key" if I was a mail order bride from russia one time.
Her (yes, a biological woman asked me this) reason being was she didn't understand how the guy I was (still am) with got a woman like me.
Yea.... Let's say being thought of as "paid for" didn't bode well with me.
@@flourflower3499 And they have nothing against American women. I hate how these dudes try to turn us against other women. It's almost like they are projecting their insecurities upon us. Greetings to American ladies from Poland
You go girl! We don't have to do what society pushes us to. Love from Poland
Hate how men try to put us against each other using outdated stereotypes and their own desires
It's so weird how these guys tear down women for having premarital sex but have made careers about getting women to have premarital sex. Like aren't you just making it harder for yourself or is the point to make it hard so that these men who believe in them continue to fail and hope their consumer base doesn't wise up.
As fun as it is to laugh at the PUAs, I also feel bad for some of the people that fall for it. I'm glad you mentioned that early in the video.
I'm an autistic person in my 30's who still can't understand most flirting nuances.
As a teenager, I was always flabbergasted when my friends told me some one was interested or flirting with me, and if I was into it I should flirt back. I know parts of that sound incredibly simple, but they might as well have been speaking another language. And eventually when I did try to act on specific suggestions, I would take them very literally and it always came off strange. Ex. "Compliment him and let you know how you feel. "
14 yo me: walks up and says, "I like the books I see you reading. I feel nervous. Ok bye."
Now, I obviously know better than to pay or listen to these creeps, but as a teenager I might have jumped at the chance to get such dumbed-down step-by-step tutorials on talking with people i was attracted to. Or just people in general...
I'm not saying only autistic people fall for this or deserve pity, that's just how I relate to the subject through my own experiences.
this is so important to mention, thank you!
Yep.
Autistic people problem.
Good luck getting people who don't think it's normal to text/write everything down instead of "just talking" like they think you should be doing in the first place
I communicate best through non verbal and I've yet to meet one person who truly accepts and understands my preference of communication.
Sucks 😩
For what it’s worth, I’m 30 and neurotypical and I thank god for my partner everyday because if I was out in the wild I would FAIL. HARD. 😅
@@sunsetkitty2932 I can relate. Don't give up and don't force yourself.
I don't know if you're on reddit, but I've actually found some subreddits like "autistic pride" and "are the nts ok" are good place to find some community, vent, and problem-solve, especially now when in-person support groups are suspended.
I'm not suggesting those groups will contain a romantic partner, but it helps to feel validated and not alone.
@@333SarahBeth I'm not even diagnosed yet I just KNOW, you know?
Haven't been in reddit in years.
Sorta feel the lack of diagnosis makes me not fit anywhere.
I'm not normal and since I don't have a diagnosis I don't fit elsewhere either.
Even if that feeling is described by many pre-diagnosis, I almost feel like I don't "have the right" even though it's the only thing that "feels right" to describe me.
Here I am venting, sorry.
This is just nasty how some of these men sexualise Easter European women and stereotype them like crazy
Totally agree!
and the way many men feel that east asian women are childlike and submissive :/ like wtf
@@nora-wb7sk oh definitely like east Asian women are so objectified by these neck beards who just use it as a way to also put down any other women . Guys like these are so gross
AMEN
I've been told I cant be eastern European by these types of guys since im overweight and very blunt...-_-
I hate that sometimes you have to give reasons like i have a boyfriend, im engaged or married to get rid of unwanted advances like dude my "no" should be enough
Yes same! And then dudes like the one example who are like “you’re just saying you have a boyfriend to make me stop” like yeah duh I wouldn’t have to lie like that if people like you would just take no for an answer. It’s pretty sick honestly.
As said in the video there's no consideration for the person on the other end, in fact in the mind of many men it's not a person it is but a means to an end, an object. Your 'no' is then simply receive as an obstacle to overcome, a challenge that has to be meant (like a broken piece of equipment), one that will go as far as qualifying the person as a man (fitting the received identity) or not (and suffering the low self-esteem and having no identity)... This is why he is still texting you after you've said and meant no.
My friend used to wear a "wedding ring" before she got married to keep men away when she didn't want attention. Im more on your side of the spectrum, where I hate having to lie and pretend so that they take my "no" seriously.
it's basically that some men won't accept a woman's no, but they will accept the no of their man/boyfriend/etc, because men respect other men more than they respect women (even if they don't know them)
Well if you say no, you must be a lesbian or something. No way you could reject a guy because you're just not into them lol
I hate the "waitress or bartender you've been eyeing for a while." They're just trying to do their job.....
Ew i actually gasped when he called her a "brat" gross gross gross.
This genuinely gives me anxiety I already have a fear of men interacting with me in public
If you read Roosh V's descriptions of sex, it's clear he doesn't even enjoy it and his partners most definitely don't. It's like the blandest most uncomfortable thing. "Just shove it in" uhhh yeah. Pretty obvious it's 100% about power and ego with these guys. They're so painfully insecure they hide behind a high body count to prove how "manly" and "attractive" they are despite being pretty gross and awkward. Yikes.
Wow. Just wow 😬
Yep. Nailed it.
at least he's stopped lying to himself....too bad he swung that pendulum all the way to the other end
@@Butterflier00 What happened?
I know people who have body count competitions
"they recommend you act all mysterious and aloof, like sulk in the corner of a bar" that's not dating advice that is how to play an edgy rogue in D&D
LMAOOO
Aragorn. He did that.
@@johannageisel5390 possibly the only exception to the rule because I Stan Aragorn
@@wingedyera Aragorn could pull off sulking in the corner of a bar, because he already had a girlfriend and didn't even want to attract a woman. ^ ^
Additionally, Aragorn is a good man, and not even acting mysterious and aloof for a moment changes that.
@@johannageisel5390 aragorn invented that, so its diffrent.
Also as a dude I really REALLY appreciate how Tara touches on the misconception on how dudes should always be dtf.
I’ve been accused of being gay coS I didnt want to have sex. Or cheating. Or even sick. “I’m not in the mood” just didn’t seem to cut it.
Thankfully my partner now gets it and she’s awesome and I’m gonna go give her a hug now.
It makes you feel broken
You’re not, my dudes. You’re a three dimensional being and sometimes there are other things better than sex. Or at least in that moment. Sometimes you’re not in the mood, or your emotions or stress is in the way, and that’s okay too.
You’re not weak.
You’re human.
Thanks for making me feel seen, Tara. I love your channel.
Thanks for saying this! So glad ❤
Yeah. As much as I hate the victim blaming and slut-shaming of women, I have to say that these stereotypes reflect so poorly on men. you’re not helping men by treating them like sex crazed cavemen.
@@alyssapinon9670
Like ACTUALLY. Pete Holmes (comedian) has a GREAT take on that. You should check him out!
@@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access can you send me the specific stand up he does on that? I can’t seem to find it
@@alyssapinon9670
I can’t find the link but if you look up Pete Holmes 3 Dimensional Humans. About 2-3 minutes in.
"Give it up" implies she's losing something by sleeping with you...
Dude, she is. She's never gonna get that three and a half minutes back.
Anyone notice how all of these men are hella single? Like, no girlfriend, no fiance, no wife, nada. Sir, take your own advice PLEASE.
They are. That’s WHY they’re deeply single.
I think they are taking their own advice, that's why they're single lmao
yes and when someone mentions it to them they defend themselves by saying ”they can’t be tamed” or that ”it’s intentional because they want multiple girls at once” and therefore don’t have one, when in reality women just don’t want to be with them. like you can maybe, MAYBE, get a woman to sleep with you using tactics like these but you sure as hell cannot get someone to date you
@@vissy9330 or they say that "women are scared of such powerful alpha males like them" HAHSHDHSH its so sad
And they'll forever claim that's the way they like it and they're choosing to be single. 😅
What a wild world we live in that men can literally write a book where they confess to rape and not be in fucking jail. I HATE it here.
The two men who commented are living proof these pickup artists are just scam artists, and their advice clearly will not help you with getting a lady.😔
Someone mentions rape and both you douchbags' response is you have a problem/ dating is hard for guys too. And you don't see how displaced that response is? Fucking get help.
@@thrusta100 Double standards negatively affect men, so admitting to rape is okay? I'm seriously not following you
You can "admit" to essentially any crime in a book as long as there is plausible deniability that you are writing entertainment and not an autobiography.
@@CalamackLP Difference is in what you just wrote tho. This context is that the dude was writing an autobiography, one that’s naturally nonfiction by definition. This by no means is compared to the likes of “Lolita”, where not only are you supposed to see the protagonist/narrator as a monster and not sympathetic at all, but that the sexual stuff that unfortunately goes on in there is indeed fiction (albeit realistic fiction).
Context means a lot, even in the eyes of the law.
What i hate the most about this is that they treat women as if we were a different species from them, so they have to learn how to comunicate with us, when what they have to learn is to accept a 'no' as an answer (not generalizing, i'm talking specifically about these pickup people).
Same has to be said for women who won't take no and think men are always 'DTF' or call them gay like it was said on the video, it's a common thing.
@@RealNormHall ok????.........
Lol. Women need to learn to take no for an answer! Gets dating some sap and right away starts manipulating him into following her shitty decisions.
@@Coreisus by decision do you mean sex?
we wouldn’t have made it as a species if men gave up at no and if we did we’d be very inbred
As a guy here's a tip, treat women like actual people, there you go
Thank you
Just like that you single headedly solved sexism.
men are trying so hard to get women , become rich, buy buGatti , buy diamonds to impress women and they attract "gold diggers" (i am talking about the tater thots )
when in reality good women just get attracted to you if you just treat them as humans , believe in equality and women basic rights , give importance and encourage their carrier goals and education and dont think of them as meat loaf or child breeding machine . basic kindness and respect is billion times more valuable than anything which these red pilled alpha men can never give
Thank You. That means so much
@FredCarpenter-pb6bd me: treating people like sex objects is bad,
you: well what about when im treated like a sex object??
like cmon man read
"DONT BE A BRAT DINA" oh my god.
I am Dina. We are all Dina.
Dinas unite
See that's where I probably would have been arrested. I would have thrown his phone so hard he'd have been there an hour trying to find it.
Indeed you are.
@@sirrys Yes, but that is the case with the majority of posters here, and why marriage rates are currently the lowest in the history of Western Civilization.
@@gulskjegglive yeah turns out when you give half the population a little freedom and a few rights they suddenly realise they don't have marry assholes just to survive financially. Who'd a thunk it huh..
As a Texan, if you say “the pickup community” I’m going to assume you’re talking about trucks 😂😂
I can see that
As someone who lives in Houston, I second this 😂😂
Ha this is true honestly XD
Non-texan, but rural and I also thought that
Lol😂😂😂
Whoa whoa whoa whoaaaaa. Hold the phone. Stop everything. Being a Fat Outer-space Cyborg was an option, and I DIDN’T EVEN KNOW ABOUT IT?!?! Sign me tf up.
Let me know when you find that facility, cos I just might jump in me self
Hope its a joke;)
Ikr? Sounds like fun. 👍
I'm so excited for my replacement robot laser arm :3
I need a gun arm. I NEED IT.
Cracks me up when guys complain about being “friendzoned.” Can’t imagine why that woman doesn’t want to sleep with you, when you’re describing being around her without having sex like it’s some sort of plague to be avoided.
This is what gets me lmao
A lot of guys who complain about being friendzoned lack the confidence or self-esteem to directly & openly pursue the person they have developed feelings for over time. It's not about sex always.
@@NorybDrol82but they act like being friends with her is a burden and feel entitled to her love/sex "Oh she tells me about her day and I'm sick of it" "oh she's having relationship problems with so and so. She keeps dating chads she doesn't want to date me. Good for her".
Like why would you want to coerce someone to like you when they have no desire for you. You are friends for reasons. Either because of no attraction at all or if there is attraction your behaviors and goals aren't compatible
I agree and I'm a guy. If you hate being friends with her then maybe a relationship isn't a good idea.
I’m not lying when I say that this seriously frightens me, as a 17 year old, to ever try to date. Like I would rather be completely alone than be used and abused like this. It’s genuinely disgusting.
Just think about what you want to get out of dating. If you’re not sure, Than I would not recommend it. Dating is overrated anyway. I hope that you can find a high value guy soon and treat him good as he will lead you to green pastures.
I'm 20 and I feel this way too. It annoys me that men think women face no difficulty in dating. Do they seriously think I'm delighted that so many men would be willing to objectify me but not have any interest in me as a person? But there ARE nice men (and women) out there. My cousins are all nice men who treat their girlfriends and wives well. My aunt remarried in her 50s to a lovely man who she met in an online game. Don't be in a rush to date, don't be afraid to be cautious if you do decide to try dating. Your boundaries are always what's important. And you can have lots of fun without dating. I've somehow managed to go my entire time at uni without dating anyone and I don't really regret it because instead I had a lot of time to spend with my friends and had the time to do all kinds of activities that I maybe wouldn't have the time for if I had a partner. I'm tempted to begin looking now, just because I'm curious about dating, but I don't regret spending my uni time on myself and my friends!
Edit: and I thoroughly recommend the top comment! FDS has some excellent advice
@@marial3231 FDS are "radical feminist" LARPers and transphobic
@@nm9688 Thats just like you’re opinion lol
Deadass, if you could pass as someone in their 30s, lie. The amount of gross ass men who recoil when I lie about being 37 helps thin the herd of them interacting with me
"Haven't you done that? When a girl's half asleep?" "No." This guy really wants to believe everybody is as nasty and entitled as him when it comes to women huh
You can see how shocked the interviewer was by his change in tone like he knew he was an incel but didn't expect him to so nonchalantly be like "don't we all force sex on half asleep women? Relatable amiright"
@Brazilian Goddess You shouldn't assume somebody is consenting to sex because they did earlier! An unconscious person cannot consent, and unless they had consented to "wake up" sex earlier he has just assaulted an unconscious woman.
@Brazilian Goddess They weren't in a sexual relationship, he had slept with her the night before. Those are not the same thing. They did not establish any boundaries because they were strangers, and she didn't consent to anything more than having CONSCIOUS sex with him one night.
@Brazilian Goddess did you get picked yet?
@Brazilian Goddess nahhhh, love. No. Personally I love wake up sex... With explicit consent. If someone 'jammed it in' without any sort of prior conversation about it being OK with both parties, that's absolutely assault.
Women:
Pickup artist: so you’ve decided to rear my children
You know, as that is 1/3 of their purpose in existence
@@mikeoxsmal8022 they're referencing the video around 23:30 😅
@@doctorwholover1012 oh I see
oh my g-d that third guy who goes up to a woman, gets rejected, talks abt the interaction like he's playing golf, and then ends it all by saying SHE WASN'T EVEN THAT ATTRACTIVE IN THE FIRST PLACE ???????? this is so fucking bonkers
"Everytime a man and a woman stand next to each other, they feel that spark"
Gay and ace people: Sure Jen...
Pretty much made me go
🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
even two straight people like...no. i swear, these types of people believe everyone around them is a total horndog 24/7
Of course Gay and Ace people won't fit into this. He's not advising those people, and the word "Everytime a man and a woman" is used inside that specific context. Otherwise, there would be no such word as "Gay" or as "Asexual". They are outside the mayority of people.
I can interact with men on a daily basis without any mythical sparks happening. Has this dude watched too many Disney movies?
@@adrianaheiler9794 Who said it would hindder you from interacting? You asume too much. Don't watch disney movies, since they stopped doing mythology and went into ideology long time ago.
The guy says something that even yoguis from india have said for thousands of years. Even the jewish star symbolizes this mechanism. Attraction is just that. It deosn't mean necesarily sex, that is probably your assumption.
IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT SEX, IT'S ABOUT POWER
LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK
yes! this reminds me about the saying "everything in life is about sex, except for sex which is about power" to this I always thought: so it's all about power...
Roosh converted to orthodox Christianity a couple of years ago now and he no longer supports these views nor the books he wrote about it
YESS
Fax. Lol
So if someone ran him over with a car maybe if he took responsibility for not jumping out of the way... we won’t get charged with the crime?
I need to use this analogy from now on thank you
This sounds right to me
According to his logic, if you invite him onto your property, you then should have the legal right to pull his toenails out with pincers, and set his beard on fire. Since, after all, it was his fault for being enough of a dumb fuck to accept your invitation onto private property.
According to his logic he himself obviously wanted to get run over with a car. He asked for it. I mean he left his house and walked on the street. Because it definitely can't be the car drivers fault, i mean the driver was just choose to running him over with the car. You know drivers just naturally do that, they have this natural urge to run over people and take their lifes, thats totally normal. So they completely lose every control of themselves when they see people walking around, BeCaUsE drivers are not able to think and request their actions before they commit them, they get controlled by their hormones and urges. All Drivers are naturally murders, that's the way it is, victims of getting run over, should deal with it. It's not the drivers fault, these poor drivers just don't have self-control whenever they see people. We should definitely legalize running over people. If you don't want to be run over, just don't leave your house at all, problem solved. And If someone is trying to run you over, it's definitely your own fault, you didn't fight enough or you provoked it by being a person and walking outside.
And if you run him over once and he's still moving, it's like, well I already ran over him once, might as well do it again. Or maybe you can stop, get out of the car and do the ripping of the toenails with pincers thing before running over him again.
"Women are being applauded and encouraged to look like fat outer space cyborgs"
Me: .... We're fucking what??
There's a reason the song space girl is so popular right now.
I want to be a fat outerspace cyborg!!!
ok but like... fat alien cyborg girl plz come love me
@@sansdr.philpillow9347 Lol, same reaction here. I'd totally be dtf a fat outer space cyborg, sounds rad as hell
I wanna be a fat outer space cyborg just so there's no chance he'll ever approach me
"There should be consent, BUT" my jaw dropped they are delusional
.... Where did they get the but from?? Not from whoever they're talking to, obvs-!
😶
it's deeper than that.
it's more than delusional.
it's dangerous.
it's the "rapist mentality".
BUT
@@Roadent1241 19:00 he said it and she slowed it down for you.
@@mydogsteppedona4431 ... I know but WHY is there a But?
As an asexual man you bring up some seriously important stuff. I thought I was broken for years because I didn't want to have sex with anyone.
You are not broken you are valid and important ?💞❤
@@usamiio8323 Thank you, so are you.
Oh honey, i hope you are doing better now. Not wanting sex all the time (or being asexual) are both completely valid.
@@couch_philosoph3325Ty, I know that now. I wish I knew that then!
Somehow I feel like I'm ace too! Don't feel sexual attraction toward people, though I do find them cute/pretty, just not in a sexual way.
Porn also isn't for me , it's just plain, boring. As if I'm watching two animals fuck.
Truth be told I do not care in the slightest about this topic, so however others view me is none of my business, I don't need their validation!
Good luck to you, and just take it easy :)
The worst thing about having a guy think hes in the friendzone is knowing that you have someone you thought was a friend that just wants to sleep with you and doesnt see you as a person
There was a tweet that perfectly stated something like this;
“Dudes who think it’s insulting to be friendzoned obviously don’t know how it feels to be f***zoned. Is the possibility of us f***ing really my ONLY worth to you? Learn how to be friends with people.”
@@peachteatinaThe thing is those dudes prolly consider being "fuckzoned" as an "upgrade" from being "friendzoned"!
“Part of taking down the patriarchy is acknowledging that it hurts men”
As a guy this made me happy to hear you say 🥺 thank for lookin out girl 😁
thanks Mom!
And as a girl I have to say thank you for being receptive. You won’t believe how many guys and girls will get defensive when we mention this. They’ll accuse us of blaming men’s oppression on men and talking red pill BS. Yes we’re blaming these issues on men. Because who were the ones who established these sexist gender roles in the first place?
It’s like getting mad when we say that systemic racism was created by white people. Not all white people perpetuate the racism but it doesn’t change the fact that it was put in place by white colonizers. I swear some people just want to be obtuse so I have to thank you again for listening with an open mind.
I honestly thought that talking about how the patriarchy hurts men would get more men interested in taking down the patriarchy because so many men complain that feminism ignores men’s issues. Then when we acknowledge it but don’t spare their egos by pretending that we don’t live in a male dominated society they flip out. Unfortunately you can’t babysit stupidity.
@Dad
for the love of men by liz plank is an excellent book to read about this
@@alyssapinon9670 The issue is really one of compassion. When we talk about toxic masculinity, we _blame_ men for it. When we talk about toxic feminity, we _support_ sufferers. We need to help men understand that they aren't locked into one expression of masculinity, not get mad at them for damaging themselves trying to fit in it.
These guys are the reason why women are afraid to walk alone
YES!!! Always carry a weapon of some kind. In fact, I recommend carrying several different types of weapons as well as a flashlight that has a strobe function (it's great at disorienting and hurting the eyes of someone that's about to attack you) and can double as another weapon.
No, that’s rapists not PUAs I’ll leave the club with all her friends pretending I want her ugly friend while really wanting her while AMOGing her insecure boyfriend lol
@@profonicsgaming7870 was that english?
@@siennasamuel 😂
@@profonicsgaming7870 nani?
I think these people are aware of their target audiences: Lonely and isolated incels. I'm pretty sure many of these Pick Up Artists don't do what they say, they just know their audience will identify with the idea of them being victims to a system that's "oppressing them", and painting women as the reason for their unhappiness.
That's why I think we need more videos like these, exposing these awful people. Thank you!
Spot on!
Unfortunately many of those incels assault and/or kill us too
Omg when he says "you've never done that?" the face Reggie makes, and his squeeky, shocked "NO?"". Like dude that should have told you enough.
True
Fun fact: when trying to write his rape guide on Danish women (he does this on all nationalities), Roosh found that the Nordic Social Welfare Model cockblocked him. Roosh came to the conclusion that women who aren’t as dependent on men for financial support are not susceptible to his narcissistic salesmanship. The greatness of Nordic Social Democracy truly knows no limits.
Praise be
Scandinavian countries are the best
Hahahah yes. I'm Norwegian and I've dated quite a few men from outside Scandinavia and they are always shocked that I insist on paying for things myself. It seems to put some of them off their game. Never accepting a drink or always buy one back is apparently seen as power move by some people.
@MrFabianToro No one has ever said that to me. Where are you from? Maybe it's a cultural thing.
@pablo rivera Well I don't live in the same world as you apparently. Have a good day.
As a lesbian, I’m incredibly confused. Who wouldn’t want a fat cyborg alien space gf?
Exactly
You’ve heard of studs, but let me introduce you to the fat cyborg alien space goth
Hell yeah
"~SPACE ~* GIRL~* I saw a lunar eclipse!"
as a straight dude yeah who wouldnt ngl
As an Eastern European feminist, I’d like to officially request a video playing through that game. I’m writing it into my planner tyvm 🥰
I'm not a feminist but as a eastern European I don't subscribe to that description. It was pretty hard watching this video.
There’s a really funny play through by two feminist women on the channel geek remix, if anyone is interested! :)
as an eastern european feminist myself, I fully support your request
@@oanaalexia what
Another Slavic feminist here. I concur.
I am an Eastern European woman. I am disgusted of how western men are fetishizing us. We are not the house wifes who only care about our families and what men want. Eastern European women have strong characters, we know what we deserve and won't hesitate to leave a man who can't give us what we deserve in a heart beat. We do tend to follow traditional gender roles (like cooking and cleaning), that's how we are raised, but the same time we are entiteld, because that's also we are raised.
Beware because they are SO craving you, they dont even know any of you but already all asume you'll just welcome them with open arms.
MGTOW and Allllll those guys are clearly writing this on their videos.
"Date abriad or stay single"
Puke
No one is "fetishizing" you any more than any other country is. Be quiet stip trying to blame a single group of people for everything. Its ridiculous and whiny
The women in Richard La Ruinas videos litterally look like they are being held hostage. I am so concerned. Blink twice if u need help.
Yep. I couldn't stop looking at their pained, deeply uncomfortable expressions. 😳 Kinda scary...
Poor girls just want to get paid and leave 💀
Porn actresses have more life in their eyes than that, jesus wept.
Clearly he likes to hire fashion models for his videos. I hope they get paid well.
I am what you could consider an “eastern man” and am deeply offended by how this guy portrays eastern women and eastern culture in general
He is offensive in all ways and cultures, given how long it took the UK/West to respect economically independent individuals as people (even women!) current progress is pretty fast (depressingly slow of course, fragile if US job figures are anything to go by).
@@riorio745 it's rather annoying when you encounter such stereotypes the first few times, but then you get kind of used to it and just cringe a little when you see it. Whenever I see someone talking that way, I just assume that the person isn't particularly smart and probably tends to perpetuate other stereotypes as well.
My Russian friend is very intelligent and pretty and as soon as they hear her accent they treat her like a stupid little girl and then get offended when they get cussed out for being pretentious dorks.
These guys just need to follow the lesbian way of flirting. Fall in love with your best friend and spend three years mutally pining.
😂 truth
This is what I'm currently going through 😭 my gay ass is crushing so hard on my best friend,,, lately she has been flirting back but I have no idea if it's genuine or like, as a joke😭
Or do nothing after you've told each other you love each other
so much pain. i was in love w/ my close friend for YEARS and she went through a couple boyfriends in my time w/ her. well i eventually get a girlfriend, come out to her, aND IT TURNED OUT SHE HAD A CRUSH ON ME TOO
lesbians please just say something it saves us so much grief lol
My bsf said "if we're both single at forty want to get married?" 😭 It wasn't a joke either I asked her and then said yea lmaooo
Bet saying "I'm a lesbian" wouldn't even work. They'd either tell you you're lying or that they can "straighten you out."
I had a friend turn down a guy and his response was to ask if 'she's a lesbian?', Also I knew another guy who was hitting on a girl, when she told him she was a lesbian, his response was to tell her 'he'll change that'. So yah, that shit does happen
Any time you have to qualify something as legal or not, you've lost the argument.
For anyone who says, "It's not illegal to talk to underage people." Obviously has a complete lack of self awareness.
It's not illegal to scream loudly in a public library but it is still highly frowned upon and discouraged for good reason. It's rude and inappropriate.
Legality isn't the only thing to be considered when addressing the issues of how men and boys interact with girls and women. The fact that these "pick up artists" haven't picked up on that point is truly disturbing.
Also. If you have to repeatedly beg, manipulate, and harass someone to have sex with you, you don't deserve the title of seduction artist because clearly you're not good at seduction.
BTW: Having sex with men doesn't stop them from becoming violent. In fact, some men constantly use sex as violence...
Did you mean women in the last part?? If so, agreed!!!!
PUAs don’t beg or use violence that is low value and actually turns them off
i find it almost comical how that one guy is talking about “legalise r** so women take better care of themselves like they would of their property” while actual women walk around at night clawd up with their keys like some wanna-be wolverin n have the police on speed dial n wear trainers instead of heels so they can run when necessary
I took up riding my longboard to school in grade 11 and 12 ( and still)
So I had something to use as a weapon incase I needed to defend myself, same reason I have a big,metal canteen water bottle in my work bag.i always text my boyfriend when I'm leaving work. Never walk around alone with my hair up cause its easier for someone to grab and hold you , wearing pants with belts because it requires more effort to undress compared to skirts. Always walk against traffic so I can cars approaching. And my phone case is non existent....
It's amazing how this man thinks women are out there not trying to defend themselves??
These men say "Why are women so paranoid lmao, they are exageratting the danger, silly girls".
Then after the crime "It's your fault for being to trusting and not being cautius enough, you know it's dangerous".
Might as well just disintegrate, not even splitting in half is good enough.
t h i s
I feel like if anyone of you are American you are missing out on a pivotal right of owning weapons that will actually and accurately disable an assailant in the blink of an eye and can be carried in your purse or on your person in a pocket.
If you are over the age of 21 and in some states 18 there is no reason you shouldn’t be carrying a pistol. The men who would do such evil things don’t deserve a few scratches or some burning eyes, they deserve to be in a trauma unit or dead.
Do not gamble with your life. Men carry pistols to protect themselves from men.
@ and if guns aren't allowed you might want a pocket knife
The girls don’t talk in the videos because speaking roles cost more. 😂
Maybe they don't know English 😁
The women look so uncomfortable
Oh my God. That may not even be a joke, in all seriousness.
In fact, I highly doubt it.
The only thing more scary about how much of this part of the manosphere out and out hate women, is the fetishization of Eastern European, East and SE Asian women 🤢. Stay safe ladies.
The threat is real.
I've seen those "men" commenting this so often.
MGTOW are also good at this.
Crying about how women are gold-diggers and burdens, while saying "date abroad or stay single".....
Meaning, dating women who still have to be dependent of men, and are still docile etc.
F disgusting. It really shows how they truly are.
‘Don’t be a brat, here put in your number’ I’d take his phone and throw it away from me, might actually be able to escape
😂
"Here, fetch, boy!!"
so after insulting a woman they expect to receive their number.. Jesus Christ
YOU'LL NEVER CATCH ME NOW BOYS
@@Roadent1241 ahgahahaha
I'm an eastern European girl. And If someone approaches me like these dudes I would run for the hills period
Same
I tell them to fuk offf
I’m an immigrant from Russia. Everything a guy start talking to me by saying «как дела?» in a broken accent, I run.
As a Romanian, I despise the way (especially) Western men tend to fetishize Eastern European girls. The fact that EE girls are, on average, less "feminist" is a sad reality that comes from living in a horrifyingly patriarchal society. The fact that these men desire an Eastern European culture - one that "breeds" "nicer" women - frightens me, as these cultures also have: incredibly high rates of domestic violence, a huge volume of cervical cancer cases (women have limited access to medical resources), highest rates of teen mothers, terrifyingly prevalent rape culture. Being a woman in Eastern Europe is a nightmare (at least in my experience). The fact that these men choose "having more approachable women" OVER these women's overall wellbeing is sinister. Also, I've always found it interesting that countries with less "wokeness" (E.g. Eastern Europe, let's say Romania) are the same countries with limited access to education (highest rates of illiteracy, highest rates of kids that don't go to school). I don't think it's a coincidence. American men should be thankful they have feminists. It means that their women got the chance to go to school, to learn, to think, to be happy, to be safe, to choose. This shows that men like these don't really see women as people deserving of joy, but as pieces of meat for their own consumption. Sickening.
Terry Crews has said that most men don't see women as "all the way human" and your comment as well as the video really implemented that idea as being more true than I ever would have thought.
Clearly these types of men see us as trophies as well as servants, we're not human who think and feel, and have wants desires and needs but simply exist to please them and they can do whatever it is they want to us.
That being said I have been very fortunate to grow up where the majority of my experiences with men have been normal but we still have do far to go and the fact that they take advantage of women in desperate situations just ... Breaks my heart.
I guess the general American man has no issues with feminism at all. It’s about toxic feminism that’s regarded as an issue. Anything toxic is not good. Toxic masculinity gets a lot of exposure for a good reason.
This is an amazing take and everyone should read it.
Came to the comment section looking for this comment, thank you!
Well said. Most of my roommates in art school (animation major) were women hailing from either eastern Europe or China and all were frustrated by the expectation to act "submissive" to western men. My male friends, who considered themselves guys who respected and shared equal tasks with women, would often view these women differently, like more "child like" despite the intense dedication these women had for their craft, spending from 7am to 3am in animation labs to perfect their senior thesis. It made me so ticked and I empathized especially with the gay women I roomed with because often they couldn't openly pursue the women they liked and had to bend to social pressures even away from home.
Happy to say one of my roommates has married her college sweetheart and both ladies are doing wonderfully.
I liked hbomberguy's observation about Roosh and his ilk: many of them tell their viewers that sex itself isn't even that gratifying (not a surprise if you are just in it for your own orgasm and/or bro points). So, their whole 'community' is built around a never-ending chase for something they don't even want, which they can never abandon for fear of being judged as less of a man. What a fucking sad existence.
I love how tipps for women are:look him in the eye, smile, ask about his hobbies While for men its: invade her space, make her feel bad about herself, be a creep.
Just smile people, if they dont smile back they arent interested and that probably wont change by annoying them.
Not true. My girlfriend of almost 4 years now I realized must have zero self-esteem or something. Each time a guy meets her stating intentions like wanting to be friends where ever it may be that they met. Soon after getting her number if they start flirting and sending hearts and w.e. I'm like uh... did you tell him you have a bf? She's like yea but it's not like its red hearts it's green hearts. I'm like uh..... no. You're not allowed to see anybody that you have to keep repeating your boundaries to. It's that simple. But it's like I'm speaking a foreign language to her and all they need to do be is be persistent and nice. Even its at the point she is clearly annoyed by it, it can go on for weeks. She's naive enough that this has happened 3, 4 times now and sure it's been over like 3 years but still. She never ever gets a clue about it. He started telling her I AM the red flag for being jealous and controlling. I was so angry. I'm like ok well if that were the case would I have no problem with you hanging out with people, guys, girls you name it, a guy I KNOW you think is cute I don't care you spend time with etc I don't have an issue in general? even going to a guy's house? NO. Obviously, it's how THIS particular guy treats you. Recently she told me it's just not what crosses her mind that he's hitting on her. It's frustrating. How many suggestive comments and green hearts and asking you to hang out does it take? So basically what I am saying is that it is sad but true. People prey on low self-esteem and especially like my gf who is kind and has a hard time saying no to people. She is getting better at asserting her boundaries but boy does it still worry me. I try to tell her well If you would get mad at me if I ever ignored something you said or annoyed at me for something then nobody else should be doing that! Sigh. ok sorry, I guess that's more of a rant. I guess what im trying to say is some people do have a hard time with someone that is merely being persistent so I have to imagine it does work on some girls even if said girl is not happy about it. It sounds crazy but I now imagine this works on low self-esteem more often than I realize. She has never and would never cheat on me and always shows me the texts but only after it got to the point she cant get rid of the guy. I'm always like uh.. yea but... this went on for a month or two... you have to work on your boundaries.
@@OSGondar maybe end relationship, does not sound really healthy for you
@@vivvy_0 What? Why? I am just saying some poeple are so naive they never expect people to flirt with them or its a self-esteem issue. It can drive me crazy sometimes but its also a refreshing quality as most people are often playing mind games. Maybe you misunderstood me? I mean yea its annoying but its only happened a few times.
@@OSGondar I used to be exactly like this; never even registered the flirting most of the time. Sometimes would give hints that I wasn't interested, or tell them I wanted to be friends, but I'd keep talking to them until they would get angry or explicitly ask for sex. Sometimes for a year or more.. I guarantee it works on girls with low self esteem and weak boundaries 😢
@@iloveyoulawliet179 I'm sorry that true, it sucks. In my case In particular, because that girl and I ended up breaking up recently after 4 years. The fact is you can't have a healthy relationship if you don't enforce and respect your boundaries. Let alone respect other's boundaries. It hopefully will become natural to speak your truth and be yourself. No one should have priority, yes you can take turns sure, but overall it should be a collaboration. When people are selfish and self-absorbed its not going to end well. I'm sorry, you have to put it with this. All I can say is you loving yourself and being honest is the only way you get to express the best version of yourself and hopefully be happier. Don't be afraid to speak up! Sure not everyone will like you anymore but you will have closer relationships or friendships if you do. I learned all too late why this relationship was always going to fail. Its my fault too I always played into her needs and ignored my own. After years of that of course I was unhappy. But I also always felt frustrated how she likes to please everyone and only acts like herself with me in private. So it makes sense people would be able to push what they want on her but the US in anything was pretty much nonexistent. It was either I'm helping her or she's not there for me and dealing with something I should help with. It was never my turn or a collaboration. The thing with the guys was just one area where that happened often. It didn't make sense for the longest time. If you don't like that dude block him? you DONT have to go see him wth. In my opinion, should she have just blocked those people and moved on? Like how were they more important than her actual partner who is always there for her. It never made sense. I get it now, yes. Part of it is the boundaries but it was a bunch of stuff. Anyways sorry! I'm over-communicating. TMI? ok, I don't know you so well so I'm just gonna say I hope you learn to push for that best version of yourself no matter who likes it or not! Don't be afraid to say no. Have a nice day =)
U know these men are an issue when Piers Morgan has to be the one to defend women
Hahahaha yes normally i cant stand him but even he is above these people!
LITERALLY 💀
RIGHT LMFAO
what do you mean "has to"... pierce is an opportunistic prick, he will say whatever he believes people want to hear to gain clout.... so that later he could say outrageous things and gain notoriety .... and continue the cycle...
it was ABSOLUTELY feigned outrage and nothing more.... total fraud
Yeah. His assumption is just as good as any other man's. Confident & successful women are obviously all British.
Ughhh the one gloryfing russian women was so cringe, and I'm saying that as a woman from Poland, another country getting this sort of objectification
As a Latina, I also hate this romanticism/fetishism/generalizing of women from a certain country or general area. I hate that Latinas are seen as "sexy, spicy, exotic" and that they will fulfill all a man's sexual wishes while also simultaneously cooking, cleaning, and taking care of his kids as if we were some wild animal they were able to tame into submission. We're just people, people with complex and individual personalities just like the rest of the human population
Hungarian here *highfive
It's not romantization. It's objectification and degradation. I'm Slavic as well and I hate stereotypes connected to us. But it's hillarious because their fantasy of a subservient, anti-feminist, hot slavic girl couldn't be further from the truth. I don't know any women willing to give up their dreams and careers for a man.
@@dinahsaurusvex7325 yeah I believe it really sucks for latinas with this stereotype :(
@@GLamoRousCooKie I think I used an incorrect word for the meaninng of my comment, objectification is much better term describing what I was writing about, so thanks I’ll edit it
I get a lot of backlash in private conversation with people about how bad the patriarchy is for us men. Men and women alike, queer or in between, a lot of people don't see how toxic masculinity is written by men, for men, and it's bad for everyone
It is! I'm a transwoman and it took me a long time to realize what I was feeling actually was.
Like my parents didn't raise me with the whole you have to be this way to be a guy, I just internalized stuff from culture and thought I should be ashamed of myself and keep things a secret cuz I guess aren't supposed to do this, like that, ect
But men get shamed for getting their emotions out at all and anything bad that happens with a man is played for laughs. So on one hand you’ve got feminists criticising men for toxic behaviour and on the other hand the patriarchy prevents men from ever being vocal about their issues. Hence there is no solution to this problem.
@@RaymondStormbl3ssed calling out behavior isn't the same as calling out the person.
(Now the internet isn't great at that distinction because on the internet people are terrible at nuance)
But you can't change behaviors unless you call them out so ppl see and recognize the harm they cause.
And that's part of feminism and gender equality, calling out our systems and culture for the harm they cause all genders.
To charge things you need to know what you are trying to change. Whether that be toxic masculinity, internalized misogyny, homophobia, ect.
Say it LOUDER
PUAs: “I am not misogynistic, I respect woman”
Also PUAs: *writes a book about what country’s we should bang and shouldn’t bang*
Tbh you shouldn't bang any country, you wouldn't want to get infections because you stuck it in some dirt, right?
Robin Rad So that guy travelled the world and had sex with every country he made a book about. The absolute madlad
@@PolrisTired next book: *countries that gave me STDs*
@@uberlephrad8218 Duh, that's what the list is for. He investigated the microbial makeup of the dirt in those countries in order to determine which ones are safe.
"Don't be a brat, Dina."
Dina, slap the phone right out of his hand.
That's exactly what went through my mind. "Yep, I'm a brat. Enjoy how my tantrum just demolished your phone. Good day."
Because responding to petty words with violence and damaging property is perfectly normal.
@@gulskjegglive beat it, the meeting for trolls is down the hall.
@@DarlingMissDarling Which of course begs the question...why are you here?
Wow....imagine caring more about a phone more than a woman's right to be left in peace.
"You're just saying that so I will stop."
blink, blink
"Uh-hu. So...maybe...you should stop?"
It’s like a dance
She's just playing hard to get, you know how bitches be /s
sorry for any mistakes, english isn't my native language
I actually dated a guy that have purchased a course of a pickup artist while we were together. In a incredible short period of time he went from this nice and educated boy to the biggest jerk on earth. I wish I could tell that I dumped him immediately but I believed that "it was just a phase" and he would change.
EVERYTHING in that relationship was a manipulation, my mental health at the end was inexistent.
"Women would take more care of their bodies"
WOMEN WOULD NEVER LEAVE THEIR HOUSE AGAIN
That's basically what these people want. Women to stay at home and not have a life outside of their man.
@NOT ALLOW .....because women don't want to be raped?? Where the fuck did you just pull all of that from??
"We would like not to be raped please."
"Holy shit! Misandry and daddy issues much???"
@UCpXnOaZfqz-4Osw8zMLPqeg “we would like to NOT be raped please” yes.... anyone can be a criminal even your own family members. Being raped should be banned just like being murdered it just is not socially acceptable.
I’m a minor and when adults approached me when I was alone I internally panicked, it’s scary. Like a guy complimented my hair and that’s nice but...why do that on the street while I’m walking
Stay safe
It actually kinda scares me that I've been approached by older guys like that only when I were underage. And those guys never take no as an answer, they keep asking for your phone number, even when you're talking to someone. Never been in such a situation after I turned 18, that's f king creepy
Theres a boundary to everything. Complimenting a woman based off her clothing choice and something she can control should be accepted, complimenting something sexual or about her body shape is weird and creepy.
I often compliment random people on the street when I like their clothes or haircut. I hope I didn't scare any...
Yo same I see a random dude when I'm alone and I immediately internally panic and find my parents
The disembodied hand on the middle guy's shoulder in the thumbnail + his smirk, really fits the creepy theme.
haha I'm glad you appreciate it! 😉
That’s the kind of smirk I imagine a man has before he plunges a knife into my stomach.
@@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access jesus christ
I’m so thankful that I never slipped into that deep manosphere mentality after getting dumped. I fell off and got lost in the sauce for a while because they were reinforcing my hurt and angry thoughts but I’m lucky I stumbled across channels that call them out for what they are like Hasan, Noah, and now your channel. Super appreciative of what y’all do
Good for you, man, and good luck on your journey of growth!!
As a female, I will be reading those books so I know what the red flags are.
good idea, me too 😐
Please don't pay money for them, though.
PLEASE DON'T GIVE HIM MONEY😣
@@socialexperiment8109 don't worry I'll pirate it 🙃
Im sure that stuff can be found online or at least shared with a lot of other girls, so no one gives money to them.
Excuse me, whats wrong with looking like an outer space robot.
Lol if your profile picture is what you are referring to... can I sign up for a makeover??? That makeup looks badass! :D
@@SaraitheHermit id love to haha. It is me indeed! I love doing fantasy looks.
@@SkunkAnimations that's so cool! I actually do a fair amount of crazy makeup too (definitely not as incredible as what you've got there lol), but I am a huge fan of drag style makeup lol covering my eyebrows and doing crazy contouring XD I get a lot of weird looks, but who da fuq wants to look normal anyway? :P
@@SkunkAnimations Dude! That look is awesome I love it! 😍 you're very talented.
honestly i'd love to look like an outer space robot
The really tragic core of the thing is that what the target demographic usually really needs isn't sex. It's therapy and some better friends and maybe a pet. Sexual frustration alone isn't enough to make a guy listen to Roosh V. They aren't just promising to get you laid. They're promising to make you powerful, confident, and successful. The women are just a way of keeping score.
That was me at 15. I had no confidence and felt like a complete loser because I couldn't believe women would like me for me. I spent the next two years trying to follow these guys, and it took a while to unlearn the monolithic thinking about women.
@@kylewilliams8114 Oof, sorry you had to go through that. It's so messed up that we measure men by who they sleep with and it contributes to so much real shitty behavior.
@@MsFeyCreature Agreed, in my case, growing up in hyper conservative mormon land, being attractive was like the end all be all. Not even about getting sex.
I'm just really, really glad I didn't get sucked down into the incel world. I got away from the pickup artists into more "Relationship artists(?)" which actually taught some good stuff, life make women feel safe and secure. But it was still about addressing symptoms, not causes. It turned out to be attachment issues because of bad parenting the whole time!
" It's therapy and some better friends and maybe a pet."
They will commit bestiality
Ill admit I read some of these books and seen some videos back in the limewire days. The underlying theme I found was become social, make friends, create a support group to bolster your confidence, use that to get girls, find a good woman.
The whole pickup act tries to find an exploit in that chain and go straight to getting girls and use that to create your external confidence which is only a facade.
Back to the point that "DoucheV can stop shooters by teaching them game," its not Game or p*ssy that's stopping incel rage, its a sense of community and worth, although sports or crafts, skills of some sort would be much better than banging randos for validation.
“Don’t bang Latvia” ladies, pack your bags, we’re going to the promise land.
😂
As a man, I can confirm that we do, in fact, not think about sex every 2 minutes. Half the time I'm thinking about what I want to eat for lunch/dinner!
The other half is spent trying to remember what the fuck I ate the day before so I'm not eating the some thing everyday...
This is so fucking relatable
aaaaaand Granma was officially right about that whole "the way to a man's heart is through his stomach" business...
@@peakdelvalle197 That's why men are turning gay. Male chefs are amazing!
@@Icemario87 I mean...true man are better cook 🔥
what did youu eat today
Guys who won’t take “I have a boyfriend” as an excuse are the reason I wear a fake wedding ring whenever I go out without my bf.
Its problem for you now but when girls like you stop getting attention all of sudden its where have all the good men gone or men are to afraid approach me lol
@@Logan30001 least insane Simpsons fan
@@Logan30001 'kay
@@ruranrin2197 K
@@Logan30001 Do men really believe this? I am in my 40s now and the attention is now fortunately going away and I can walk to the store or library unhindered, and I love being left the fuck alone when I walk the street!
For you ladies reading this, it gets better eventually when you age-out of this silliness.
I want to become a "pickup artist" and after they pay for my advice, I teach them to not be a prick.
I was just thinking the same thing.
You'd get so much praise, cause it would actually working
How to not be creepy 101. These poor dudes need legit help.
It's disturbing that pick up artists love targeting women who don't have the same first language as them. Also, in regards to the guy with the video game you know you're sexist when you make Piers Morgan look like somebody who respects women.
even at the ripe age of 24, i still have a hard time not being offended when my partner doesn’t want to have sex. it’s that “men are always dtf” expectation embedded in me still, even though i know better. it’s something i have to actively work to unlearn
@@lh1822 it's somewhat understandable, especially if you are a person that holds the emotional link between partners that happens during sex. Plus both men and women have insecurities, especially physical ones, that get triggered when our partner does not want to have sex. As a man I can tell you tho, rest assured, we still like you a alot, even though we do not want to have sex all the time. We'll still cuddle and kiss you, unless your boyfriend doesn't really show physical affection, ot he just sucks
@@ioanturcu5795 true
Yeah, I wil always give sex immediately, because I have the feeling that otherwise it complicates the relationship. It is one of the most important building block of the relationship for healthy people. It’s also about losing my sexual energy inside the relationship, instead of outside the relationship. Having sex every day makes me feel less interested in other girls because I have no sexual power left.
I once read a post that said something along the lines of "Your first thought is shaped by societal expectations, your thoughts after that are your own" which was pretty helpful in recognizing and unlearning these "expectations"
A lot of these expectations come from a pre-feminist world where they benefitted men at the expense of women. But now that freedom is much more widespread, they’re obsolete. Social constructs don’t go away easy, so now they’re freewheeling and even the ones they used to serve aren’t safe from the collateral damage.
These guys are the prime example of why I carry pepper spray around with me
These guys are why I had long sharp nails in high school
@@alyssapinon9670 YES, you are a goddess
@@laurenh2674 aww thank you. The only reason I don’t have long nails now is because of sanitary reasons.
Too bad it's illegal in most European countries :/
@@cutecatsara123 Really ? I feel so bad for those people.
"You have no respect for British women!"
Says Piers Morgan....the King of Respecting British Women apparently.
23:28 oh oh, i know the three purposes of women! (This also applies to non-women as well, believe it or not)
1.) Existing for themselves
2.) Refusing to be treated like objects
3.) Living their lives the best they can
(Being dorky and sarcastic aside, i hate these pickup "artists". Calling them artists is an insult to genuine artists)