Working for 24 hours in the Army on CQ / Staff Duty
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- Опубліковано 20 жов 2024
- Ever heard horror stories about 24-hour shifts in the Army? They're not exactly a myth.
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In this video, we'll break down the reality of pulling a 24-hour shift in the Army:
What are the different types of 24-hour duties? (Staff Duty, CQ, etc.)
What can you expect during a 24-hour shift? (Tasks, responsibilities, downtime).
.... and more.
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i had CQ once so far, and the 1lt let me leave around midnight and said, "im not gonna make you stay up all night man, get some rest. you're relieved
@@Enkies that’s what I call good leadership
that one hour before being relieved is the worst part of CQ. So exhausted but so close to being done.
The longest hour ever!!!
@@nathasix3334 it’s also the looooonnnnnngggggggeeeeesssssssstttttttttt
In my experience, that's when the 1SG walks in and puts you to work
The worst time to have any duty is on Christmas Day . Nothing is open to eat and nobody around.
When I did CQ at my unit, it was an unwritten rule that we both took extended breaks. The E5 would always let me go sleep at my barracks room for a few hours even our commanders knew about this.
Yeah some 1sg and CO were ok with that.
And some were jerks.
Back when I was a runner. I had CQs that sleep during the day. Then made sure you stayed up all night.
When I was CQ I don't recall ever getting sleep during the day. But I always let my runner. " Go check the barracks" and tell them to be back like 4 hours later.
I only recall a staff duty question where my runner was once. He waited like an hour for my runner to return. And wouldn't you know it. The log said 5 minutes after he left my runner came back and had vehical problems.
But really he did come back for a couple hours.
I enjoyed cq on Sunday the best, didn’t have to deal with the bs of Monday, and held prisoner in the motorpool all day.
I liked it on Thursday because then you got a 3 day weekend
Good day, wow, as a old cook 1988-1992 never did CQ but I did many 24 and 30 hrs shifts. Most of those hours were in the field. I spent a Thanksgiving up for 28 hr. Cook dinner, then cook the Thanksgiving meat, then I cook breakfast and Thanksgiving lunch. Then I got to go to bed. Fantastic video.
One last thing, the first two years were within an infantry BN. I spent both Thanksgiving in the field.
@@thomasedwards2754 thanks for sharing. As a cook I have had to do cq quite a few times but only when I was not assigned to the dfac at those moments. Same with staff duty.
The last time I was in the field was really stupid because higher ups would "hey you" any lower enlisted for anything stupid they could think of because those higher ups seemingly had nothing better to do. So they pulled some of the lower enlisted cooks, including myself, to go dig a hole and just sit in the hole and watch a 240bravo gun for eight hours a day, even though we were cooks and had been working since 0300, and taking any of us away would impede the meal preparation.
Yeah Im so glad I joined Army instead of Air Force where you probably would still do some dumb stuff but not nearly as ridiculous as Army
Fun fact: if you enlist as a paralegal (27D), you don’t have to do CQ and staff duty per AR 27-1. The reason for this because paralegals are the ones helping process adverse actions such as Article 15s, GOMORs, etc. and it wouldn’t be a good idea for paralegals to be witnesses to incidents that they could see during CQ/SD.
Plus paralegals also usually have a better QOL than most soldiers since they’re typically assigned at the battalion level or higher. They don’t typically get assigned to a line unit.
I tried to reclass to 27d and it was looking good until the retention people caught that I have a permanent hearing profile and require hearing aids. It hurt that I was disqualified.
But I got a question anyway about 27d with other Army things like the field, a 27d is still in the Army, not the Air Force, so I would expect sone 27d to still have to go to the field. But what the hell would a 27d even do in the field?
@@golfery5119 Depends on the job. Typically those in a military justice (UCMJ) position typically don’t go to the field since military justice is a big priority and courts martial will happen even during field exercises. Paralegals are on both the trial counsel (prosecution) side and defense side. There’s even paralegals working as court reporters for the judge.
For administrative and national security law positions, paralegals are much more likely to go to the field for staff exercises. They help the JAG officer with research on federal law and regulations (typically DoD and Army regs) as well as help with drafting documents. So just whenever a JAG officer and other staff soldiers/officers need to be in the field is when a paralegal will go.
@@usernamealreadytaken770 thanks
This didn't on CQ, but happened while on fireguard during BT. The barracks was shaped like an H. 1st and 2nd squad on side 3rd and 4th on the other side Latrine in the middle. I heard a scream from the other side of the barracks. I run over there and see what's is happening. There was a sleepwalking recruit pissing on another recruit while the poor guy was in his bunk.
In Germany 1990s, there was just one. No cell phones back then. Plus we had to strip, wax, and buff the conference room and offices. Plus being supply class IX rear we had 24 hours shifts at the warehouse on weekends when soldiers were in the field
We had an unwritten rule that you could take 1-2 hours to rest. Someone (the runner) thought it was an official rule and told the CQ he was going to go to his room to sleep. The CQ said "no". He complained to the 1SG who laughed him out of his office.
Nowadays, thanks to h2f, it’s regulated that everyone gets at least 2-4 hours of sleep on duty, whether it be in their barracks or car. At least at my unit
In from 1981 to 1991, Sgt at desk two runners to clean and buff floors in HQ office. Runners start at 0730 SGT states at 1630.
In the late 90s they stopped doing the buffing in a lot of places .
Wasn't like years before when floors were high wax buff.
About 93-4 a memo came around and high wax floors were stopped at permanent party Ft. Leonardwood. Then I reclassed into a medical MOS. During training in bravo school high wax floor
But in my advanced Medical MOS. Since I was an NCO I was in different barracks. It was a little strange because I wasn't allowed in the IAIT barracks. But I believed they had high wax.
But those with me. There was no wax floors.
My units after had wax floors. But not like the old days.
NCO usually takes a snooze during 11pm-4am
When I was in the Army when we did CQ my unit allowed us to have a cot in the CQ room and we could rotate being able to at least get an hour or two of sleep
You should do a video for conditional releases, breaks in service, Guard/Reserves to active, break in service and all things related to prior service contracts. No one, not even the MEPS liaisons, knew much about prior service. I had to do a lot more research than when I first joined the Army, which was made more difficult by the varying accounts and general lack of information.
I was the CQ runner only and most of time i had good CQ's who would let me crash a couple hours here and there.
One of the great reasons why I signed up for 2 years active. ETS in 5 months😅
No overnight visits 😅😅😅. Anything you can do at night, you can do during the daytime. I just love the archaic rules from the days of yore.
It's honestly not that bad. I'm with 1st cav 6-9 Fort Cavazos.
Realistically we are allowed to bring our game consoles sometimes. Most times guys who have extra duty pull all the Dirty Work so you won't have too and the work you do if you have too is not much. It's simple cleaning, running to Motorpool to unlock gates and assisting other soldiers with getting back into their rooms if they get locked out. Honestly I don'tind CQ, you also get the next day off as recovery. Thursday CQ is the best. You get Friday Saturday and Sunday.
It's not the worst thing ever. Until you have to pull CQ for Headquarters
I was DNCO( Duty NCO ) for my barracks in the Marine Corps. I was a Corporal. We had a PFC with the same last name as me. No relation by the way. I got a phone call from the staff duty saying that PFC Snuffy was picked up in town for jaywalking, resisting arrest, assault on a police officer, and more. I had to escort him to the hospital on base to get a brig physical, then escort him to the brig, alongside my staff duty for the night. It was quite the adventure for me.
Nothing like having staff duty when daylight savings time ends. 25 hour duty. One year because I was single I got staff duty on Thanksgiving, Christmas and CQ on New Year's.
great video
I hated doing 24 hour duty especially when coming out of the field. Every unit I was at started the CQ/Staff Duty at the end of the business day until the start of the next business day. Except weekends and Holidays.
The Worst time I did staff duty in Germany (This was Division Artillery Staff Duty) It was the night of the Lockerbie Pan Am Bombing. I had to contact all of out units to see if we had any of our people on the flight. And yep, One of our Lieutenants was going home on Christmas Leave and was on that flight. (The way it worked is we had Artillery units at several locations in Germany not located with the division HQ, Really the whole division was spread out over several locations. So there was a LOT of time on the phone talking to the units to get a people count.)
That Night Sucked Real Bad. As it happened it was my first time pulling Staff Duty at that unit, having been newly arrived to Germany. December 1987
The other times pulling duty really sucked is when you are pulling duty and you unit gets called on alert. All of a sudden no day off after pulling duty. You are dragging ass doing the stuff you need to do for an alert. At that time in Germany Alerts were mandatory at least once a month.
There were 3 different types.
Just a recall where everyone had to report to the unit within the specified time frame -Usually 2 hours. Those recalls always took place at 0500.
2nd type Full recall, prep Draw Weapons and sensitive items, Do everything to move and do communication checks, and line up to move out.
3rd All of the above and actually roll out and go on a road march. Sometimes just a few miles, sometimes go on a field exercise, a couple of times we went to our Ammunition Pickup, and then deployed to what our forward positions would be if the balloon went up. Pulling duty before that type REALLY SUCKED
In the 80s 90s CQ was always a CQ (NCO) and a runner E1-E4.
The runner started between 0600 to 0900 depending where I was.
The CQ would began after End of Day formation.
Now a lot of NCO would go home to sleep during the day.
A tiny few CQ would allow thier runner to get a couple hours of sleep during the night. But most would not.
It always made me mad when a NCO WOULD sleep during the day and play rock with his runner. Making runner stay up.
When I was CQ i couldnt get that sleep during the day. Never the less i let my runner caight some Zs
One more thing E6 rarely but did pull CQ.
Staff duty.
Never seen below E5 pull it.
But still you had a runner/ driver that was E1-E4.
However the runner / driver was allowed to sleep. It was always car naps between. But i dont know of any my units did let sleep.
Understand you are driving every 2 to 4 hours which mean maybe 30 minutes to 2 hours of sleep.
Now dont get that wrong. My last batt CO was a real Cant and she wanted to know just where the driver was. And i told her some line.
The duties stink. But its really wasnt that bad.
Oh and our CQ was always in the compamy. Not in barracks.
But i did hear of some in barracks at other places.
Also remember this was 20 plus years ago. So things may of changed.
But staff duty was basicly checking security of motorpools and checking CQs at thier companies.
I only recall doing staff duty 3 tines. Once as a driver in late 80s maybe it was 1990 and twice in early 2000s .
One night while pulling SDNCO I ran into one of my CQs' as I was making my rounds. He advised that he was chased by three skunks while he was making his rounds at about 0300.
Finally did my first CQ shift and it was grueling.
Want to do a 24-hour shift, or even 36 hours, work in the Audio Visual world, you will get plenty of those.
Now it's more regulated, but back in the day. I did at least two 36 hours and several 24 hours. And this was labour so...
I thought I remembered my father having CQ or Staff duty as a young officer. Maybe that was a practice 50 years ago, but became a non-thing. I vaguely remember having the on-call phone forwarded to our house, so he did not have to go in.
One more thing.
We never had 2 runners.
But CQ was over extra duty.
My first duty station (Ft. McClellan, AL in 1992) had CQ from 16:00 to 09:00, Monday through Friday, because the Operations Office was open from 09:00 to 17:00, Monday through Friday, and there wasn't anything for CQ to do during the regular duty day. Weekend duty was 09:00 to 09:00, with Saturday sucking the most. 🥱 ☎️
This might be another one of those things about the Army, not the military period, but the Army that is unique to the Army.
I don't know about the Marines and Navy but apparently the Air Force doesnt make its enlisted people do 24 hour CQ duty. Ive heard from many sources that someone in the AF, if they do have to do such duty, only do it for 12 hours, not a whole 24 like the Army does.
Hey man, I have questions that I can't find information on. Like if you are enlisting with a family, whats the process once you reach AIT, moving, housing, ect....if you can help how can I reach you?
All that happend at your unit. Can't have your family at AIT. When you reach your unit you will get processed in and be able to arrange for transportation of household goods, try to get in on post housing if you want and it's available (if not you will have to find your own off post) and so on.
24 hours what a light weight!! Go to the field in combat arms unit. I have 40-50 hours without sleep. Air Defense Artillery. Hawk missile system. 75-84
What? Only 40 to 50? I did 70 to 80 plus had to walk up hill both ways barefoot in the snow to the motor pool with an 80 pound ruck and a 50 cal.
@@christopherchaos LOL!!!! Tell me some more war stories!!!!
@@christopherchaos LOL tell me some more war stories. I can swap a few of them with you.
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One time i was on staff duty at the brigade and once at division headquarters and the phone rang like every 3 minutes for 24 hours. Ring-ring. Hello this is 3rd brigade, Fort Campbell, Kentucky. This is specialist Simmons speaking, How may i help you? Granny speaking" I am looking for Jerry Smith" Then you are like shit. let me look at the roster. 20 pages of soldiers 5,000 soldiers. I hated every minute of CQ and staff duty.
I remember when we just got back from the field that day two days before the 4 day first we had in months we had been in the field a while and then our 1sg comes out with the roster that day and says to me you have sd tomorrow then you have cq the following day and then sd again on Saturday I explained so you expect me to do a sd then go immediately to do a cq basically 48 hours straight then get one day off and back a sd and no additional comp days for ruining my long weekend and he was fine with this wow what did I do to you and the I talked to the commander and overruled the 1sg and took me off the next two days and got practically a 5 day out it it’s helpd that I was the COs loader and thank god that 1sg is gone I done miss him one bit.
Yeah I hated when that kind of thing happened because you had separate duty rosters for Weekend Holiday duty from weekday duty, and Staff duty was another roster as well. But the 1SG was supposed to mark you as ineligible to do duty on the days after duty So at worse you would get duty on that Thursday and then the Saturday or Sunday. But you would also get nailed the next weekend.
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What do one expect in CST?
Not in the army but its for the algorithm
Yes thank you for participating
Did more than that but your young!
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I have a question do you get overtime if you 24 hours
No, the army is salary across the board.
Labor laws and safety rules dont apply to the military. Fight the VA for disability after discharge.
I'm still in so I don't know but I don't think that fighting the VA for disability should be that much of a hassle as long as you had your issues documented while you were in. I might be wrong.
@@golfery5119 Life is not always fair:(
Do they still have staff duty driver,?..did that alot
Yeah
It’s ez, just pretend you’re doing something fun.
Oh, boo hoo, "I had to stay awake for 24 hours." You ought to go into emergency medicine. I worked 24-hour shifts as a paramedic for years. I also served in the US Army. On field maneuvers we might be up two days straight. 24-hour CQs were nothing.
Boo hoo for making the wrong career choice. You made this all about you and now suck it up and drive on. No one cares about your " 48 hr ops". You made that up budro