Jim Cornette & David Schultz on The John Stossel Incident
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The original Stone Cold: David Schultz.
For sure
Possibly the single greatest moment in all of television history.
Yes it was and the people in Detroit held up a huge banner saying 20/20 sucks right after that. John Stossel has no idea how lucky he is. If David Shultz had really hit him as hard as he could, then John Stossel would have gotten a broken jaw and several teeth knocked out.
Just watched about 10 different interviews with dr d about this. All from way different times. And his story is exactly the same.
Vince: *No comment*
The beauty of the truth it just gets older..but doesn’t change..
Yeah he ain't lying
But Vince McMahon story has probably changed and John Stossel story has probably changed, good old boy from my home state of Tennessee was the only one telling the truth
Dr Death had the best promo about Hulk Hogan. It was about Hulk hogan trying to figure out which truck stop to send a fathers day card to. The way he presented it was awesome.
Another reason to hate Vince.
I've said it before and I'll say it again Dr D David Schultz one of my favorite people God bless you brother 😊
Triple H Should Make Things Right by Inducting Dr. D into the Hall of Fame ... And Have Vince Publicly Apologize During the Induction
Scary, scary man...I met Dr D several times delivering his mail and live to tell the tale!
If I thought any of his mail was bad news I would never deliver it.
Real life bad ass
He's a nice dude, but he has a dark side to him, don't piss the guy off ..simple
David Schultz and New Jack would've been the best fucking tag team ever 🤣🤣🤣
The man got punished for protecting the business and my eyes he's a hero. it's crazy how it worked out because the wrestling business should have put this guy on a pedestal after that.
Yeah, he "protected the business". Lotta good that did. Groucho Marx joked on his radio show in 1949 that pro wrestling was fake.
@@streetsofsouthphilly Exactly by that time it was like Emperors new clothes lol
Tommy Hallum it’s not a good business watch the exposed interview you will be shocked
Stossel got paid 500,000 for that slap
Vince and Stossel were in cahoots, Vince wanted Shultz gone so Hogan could be "vince's guy" as Shultz was getting a lot of popularity at the time and that Vince phoned him up and said "good job Dave, that was a perfect way to go!" (talking about slapping stossel) and that weeks later he was sent to Japan, then he was brought back but at that point, Vince suddenly did a one eighty u-turn and said "nope, i didn't give him directions to do what he did" and that he wanted Shultz to pay the $400,000 lawsuit out of his own money even to the point where Shultz had tapes of wrestlers talking candidly about Vince McMahon and what would happen (i.e. underage girls being used as ring rats/groupies) and that the WWF wanted the tapes, so Shultz couldn't say no, so he handed them the tapes and then all of a sudden, Vince tells Shultz's laywer "Sorry, we've lost the tapes, they've been misplaced" (which is usually code word for "haha fuck you Dave, we destroyed your evidence!").
Be truthful best thing that could have happened to him was getting fired.
Made Damm good $$ at bounty hunting and truck driving,
Better health then most of the old wrestlers of his age due to getting out of the business when he did.
Stossel STILL Thinks He's Untouchable!
Stossel couldn't have said the word fake to a WORSE person that day lol. Schultz slapped him so hard it sounded like a shotgun to a watermelon lol
San Francisco that's your kinda place, that's you're kinda people cuz you ain't never had a woman, baby!
DR D shouldve did Vince same way he did stossel but only harder ..DR D my hero
Stossell has never had a wohman
Bet he's had plenty of men that lUked like Wohmen
Nah i knew his mommas housekeeper in the 90s he lost his testes in an accident as a kid n has to take testosterone but still dont have a sex drive. I guess he sleeps in a room like a 4 y/o n drinks outta a bottle n shit. Just a sad storm of a broken mfer sorry for Schultzy
He belongs in San Francisco.
@@adamirishconundrum851 what’s wrong with you Gene? I’m just telling it like it is, babay.
Someone Must Put Together a Rematch Between Dr. D v Stossel ASAP
Yes would love that
You sure can't hear the old school law man in his voice 😊
I remember watching this on tv when it happened...the dude was intense and so was the slap that was heard around the world.
Here before dark side of the ring releases tonight 🤘🏻
I saw the dark side of your mums ring
LMAO, so Vince did to Dr. D EXACTLY what the 20/20 expose accused promoters of doing to other wrestlers: Blackballing them and keeping them from working. That'd be hilarious if all you marks in the comments weren't cheering Vince and Dr. D on.
Someone finally says something sensible about this. I was beginning to think that there was nothing but wrestling fanboys jerking off to their own cognitive biases in this comment section. The 20/20 expose was primarily about the underhanded business dealings of the promoters, but this slap made sure people only talked about how a reporter was attacked for saying the damn thing was fake.
It turns out , he fella who slapped Stossel got exactly what Stossel made the piece about, railroaded through shady and unfair business practices through the promoters. Yet, the only thing these dipshits seem to remember about it was the slap and fallout. No wonder that Vince fella has been able to successfully play the fans for decades. He knows exactly what to do, to manipulate and get them to focus on or think about whatever he wants. If they're so easily lead around by the nose, perhaps they're getting what they deserve, as fanboys always eventually do.
Both of you are right and on top of that nobody thinks professional wrestling is real, now or then.
David Schultz his comment on McMahon intimidating people into sonning documents they don't want 2 has been corroborated by other people such as Roddy Piper
If I was another promoter, I would've told Vince "Fuck you. I'll hire Schultz or anything other wrestler I want." And then remind Vince wrestlers are independent contractors like he wants them to be, so he doesn't have to pay them benefits.
And this was the same time period Vince was too arrogant to acknowledge the existence of other promotions.
One of The most satisfying videos I’ve ever seen
Schultz was the fall guy in this whole incident. Vince wanted to teach the media lesson for bringing to light on wrestling being staged predetermined. He knew Schultz was hot headed. Vince got exactly what he wanted and David became invisible.
Since the Territories had pretty much dissvolved at this point, Crockett should have gone ahead, and brought him in.
Here after the Dark Side Of The Ring episode.
Was paramedics at the arena not doctors
Do you know for sure? Tbh, I could see it going either way - even if they were doctors, what if they're regulars employed by MSG? Would they be more apt to discount the guy's injuries due to being fans or understanding who Vince is and his connection to MSG? Not saying that's the case, but just like Stossel's brother - just cause a doctor or medic said something doesn't mean we should take it at face value.
No there was a M.D. on site because New York had a boxing and wrestling commission and there had to be a doctor on site to give physicals to the wrestlers and also be at ringside. You don't know what you are talking about.
Vince had another reason for keeping Stossel out. That was the night of the live Piper's Pit in the Garden and Mr. T was acting like a diva and was creating havoc in the locker room. Vince sent Schultz out to run interference and keep Stossel from seeing it and showing how T was acting.
He protected the business.
Today's wrestlers would laugh, instead
Dr. D is a hero
He would have been awesome in JCP.
Love Mr. Schultz!
Wait one fucking minute.... are you telling me Stossel was a goddamn work the entire time? Like, he lied to get money afterwards? He out-carnied the fucking carnies. I'm not even mad. Surprised more than anything.
It's funny when the lady who hosted 20/20 talked to Stossel after the video ended and talked about the slap and he says it hurts when a bus goes by him, just hearing him be sad for being bitch-slapped after insulting their jobs and life-work
@Upson Pratt I would hope both respective entities have more important shit to give their attention.
@Transitfan93 Exactly. Stossel insulted somebody's job, and that somebody was Schultz. And Dr. D made him pay for it.
STOSSEL HAD NO BUSINESS BEING THERE AND INSULTING THE WRESTLING BIZ,HE GOT WHAT HE HAD COMING.
And then Stossel admitted his ears magically stopped hurting after he got paid.
Stossell still brags about it like it was some great career journalistic accomplishment. Meanwhile, pro wrestling went on to become bigger than ever and today Stossell has another crappy podcast that nobody listens to.
David should smack the shit out of today wrestling.
I watched the Dark Side and the clips and was kind of disgusted with the way Stossel answered questions about the slap.
In the video you can't see where he hits John the first time. I do know if there was no way for air to escape the ear canal, and a strong strike could potentially burst his eardrum (with enough air forced with no escape...but a perfect slap that doesn't allow air to escape is difficult to do), however, it was never said that that is what happened as there would be physical evidence that they could show in court (and in several interviews with Stossel he never said that was what happened.) It is possible could have caused Ménière's disease, however, it is a very rare disease and again there is evidence that could be shown and he never mentioned that. He also would still be complaining of symptoms as experimental treatments for Meniere didn't start until 2015.
IMO, I don't think the slap was physically as bad as he said. I think what got hurt the most was his ego and I feel strongly about that with how he answered the questions in the Dark Side doc. He shifts the responsibility to his lawyer which is a tell-tale sign that the punishment didn't fit the crime and pre-emptively trying to distance himself from the judicial aspect of the case in the event the Vice reporters did more evidence searching.
Kind of scummy. I know this is a huge embarrassment for him, but what I know is had he embraced it and laughed about it, it wouldn't leave him as bitter as he is today about it, and he wouldn't so angry. I've taken some licks and been embarrassed and I learned you have to accept it, admit it and move on and when you do, it takes a huge burden off of you.
He Acted like Such a Phony Tough Guy ... One Day, I'd Love to See a Face to Face Between Them ...
I feel bad for shultz.... but he was gd lucky it wasn't Haku. If he said that to Haku he wouldn't have an ear ache he would be missing an eye.
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I love that clip of Schultz slapping the shit out of John Stossel. The business was supposed to be protected even if the public did have an inkling of a doubt that everything wasn't on the up and up. Fucking people coming in from the outside went a long way to doing irreparable damage to the business. I know it's ironic now to be a fan who wishes everyone didn't know this shit but it used to be that the smart fans also did their part to protect the business and keep the marks oblivious. I sure as hell don't smarten anyone up, I work with a couple younger guys like that who are WWE fans and if they want to shoot the shit about it with me, I kayfabe them. It's just as much a courtesy in that, on some level, we all wish we could recapture that amazement and intrigue and I don't want to shit on their good time.
Everybody knew it was fake, and the wrestlers knew we knew. Kayfabe just means lying to people who know you are lying.
Stossel clearly grabs his ear.
Dr. D called it. He didn't step on him, he left him in the yard and McMahon dried up and went away.
Who would've thought that the less jackass in this entire incident was Shultz himself.
John Stossel fake news. That's a reality check.
After watching Dark Side, I have a few conclusions:
1-As awesome as Schultz was for protecting the business, he does not get a pass because what he did was physical assault. He may have been playing a character but Stossel was not.
2-Having said that, Stossel gets no sympathy from me and loses all credibility when he does a special where he claims wrestling and wrestlers are fake but then he turns around and sues for a real slap. Well either your reporting has no credibilty now or you have no case.
When Stossel said "i felt a lot better once i got the money" or something like that i had a feeling he wasn't hurt as bad he let on.
What would you have done? I’d told him sign a release and I’ll see ya in the ring and make him cry. If he refused to get in the ring just say what’s wrong? It’s all fake.
Dr D was a patsy
Have seen the video where DR.D slapped the taste out of John Stossel for saying that wrestling was fake .Keep in mind that this was back in the 80's and wrestling was starting to get national and worldwide exposure and it was around the time of the 1st Wrestlemania and heaven forbid if ABC and Stossel were going to make the wrestling business so obviously McMahon was going to do anything possible to cover his backside .IMO Stossel was stupid for even saying ro Schultz that Wrestling was fake due to the fact that wrestling was more hidden back than where it is now where everything is out in the open and the boys would keep kayfabe to a point that were willing to lose jobs over it which it cost Schultz his job with WWF cause like he stated in the clip above he was told by McMahon to be in character the whole time and dowhatever . If it was a case of overstepping boundaries don't you think that somebody would have stepped in to stop Schultz from slapping Stossel the on of that Stossel lies apparently about his injuries after getting checked out by medical Physicians at MSG that said that he was okay and no damage had be done but yet he goes to a doctor that turns out to be his brother and behold says that there's damage to his ears . As far as his issues with Hogan have seen the imfamous Minnesota Massacre where it was a bloodbath between them . McMahon was basically protecting his biggest star at the time in Hogan cause he was a moneymaker for the WWF and them going worldwide so in his eyes Schultz was the sacrifical lamb for lack of a better term in that he did what was asked of him and yet when the heat got too much for McMahon he dropped him like a bad habit and blackballed him to where he left wrestling .Can only imagine how many other wrestlers that were blackballed by the McMahons for similar reasoning if not worse . I'm sure the numbers would be astronomical . The again look at the wrestling business now to where it's pretty much gone down the toilet .Kinda wish wrestling would go back to the 80's/90's back when it was good . Oh well.At least i have my old school vhs tapes and dvds to watch of it . Take that over this so called garbage truth be told .
The Fact is Dr.D got WWF over that slap in the face people understood it's about being disrespected and globally people can relate with the wrestler Vince knew what he was doing he needed to get wwf serious enough
No, people knew wrestling was fake, no one changed their minds when Schultz slapped Stossel, and he is a hero only to wrestling cultists.
I was with him until he started to claim it was all a conspiracy to get him out of the company
@JustMemes Who would have thought the most carny guy in all this would turn out to be the journalist?
I always heard this was actually a work.
I mean it technically was, Stossel worked the ear injury for money.
What about the dude that got pile drove and ended up with a broken neck.
Steve Austin? Masahiro Chono?
I think it was Andy Kaufman. It was supposed to be some kind of joke or something and it went totally wrong.
@@Bobby-Dingers Oh that was totally a work. Kaufman was in on it. He played it up by wearing the neck brace. It didn't actually go wrong. That's what they wanted everyone to think though, lol.
Should have took the hit for Vince and just owned up to it. Might have sucked short term but Vince would have taken care of him. Hell he'd still be on the payroll today.
Oh yeah vince is so loyal right lol.
If you give me the 425k he was supposed to fork over, I will put you on my payroll. Deal?
As long as your name is Undertaker, your loyalty will pay off. You'll be coaxed out of retirement to work an event for Saudi dictators way past your prime, sullying your legacy, and unable to take any other bookings or explore any other opportunities - lest your sugar daddy start to get insecure and tug on your leash. Loyalty only means usefulness to Vince. Meanwhile, even Bret fucking Hart and Madusa can come back decades after fucking the guy and do business together. Why are you people talking about loyalty like it's some established fact - Vince will work with anyone, no matter how they've fucked each other, as long as there's money to be made.
If CM Punk called Vince up on the phone today, he'd be on the next episode of RAW.
Vince would have thrown him under the bus either way. Look at the interview when he says that Vince wanted him to do this, he wanted him to do that, he wanted him to apologise on live television for slapping Stossel, he wanted Schultz to pay the $400,000 lawsuit back to Vince, he had to give Vince and the WWF the tapes that he had that were interviews of wrestlers talking negatively about Vince McMahon and never got them back as they were "lost".
BS Vince threw him under the bus id of told vince same thing
Schultz is lying at 2:54. Watch the video of Schultz and Stossel. Schultz heard Stossel loud and clear back in 1984.