MSI Claw - Core Ultra 5 135H // In-Depth Review // Benchmarks, Teardown, PC Games, Emulation

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  • Опубліковано 30 чер 2024
  • 👉 Join me as we take a VERY in-depth look at the first handheld from ‪@MSIGamingOfficial‬, the Claw, which is powered by Intel's Meteor Lake Core Ultra processors. In this video, we will be covering the Core Ultra 5 135H variant, which is now the first handheld device to feature this chipset. It's also the first time we will be looking at the 135H as well as the Claw on the channel. Please join me for this review as we do an unboxing, teardown, a very in-depth benchmarking of the 135H, PC Gaming, and Emulation testing and a whole lot more!
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    📑CHAPTERS:
    00:00 Intro
    01:33 Specs/Price
    03:35 Unboxing
    05:38 Touring the X1
    09:00 First Boot/Windows 11/MSI Center
    11:27 Size Comparisons/Measurements
    14:29 Build Quality/Display/Audio/Controls/Comfort
    17:36 Teardown
    22:52 Benchmarks (Geekbench, 3DMark, In-Game, Comparisons)
    32:32 PC Gaming (Diablo 4, Hogwart's Legacy, God of War, Spider-man Remastered, Control, Alan Wake II)
    36:55 Low TDP PC Gaming? (Celeste, Sea of Stars, Hades)
    38:50 Emulation (Switch, Wii U, Playstation 3, Xbox 360)
    45:27 Testing: Battery, Thermals, Acoustics
    48:47 In A Perfect World...
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  • @retrotechdad
    @retrotechdad  3 місяці тому +7

    I have both the 135H and 155H in-hand, what do you want to see?

    • @RemTilak
      @RemTilak 3 місяці тому +4

      A long video about emulation and PC gaming benchmarks on the 155H.

    • @cosmicgamingunlimited
      @cosmicgamingunlimited 3 місяці тому +3

      135H. Budget pc hand helds interest me. I would like to see how this compares to the Z1 non-extreme.

    • @ozzierobmorales
      @ozzierobmorales 3 місяці тому +2

      Just more content whatever you would like to show us . This thing looks sick!

    • @CaseyBoatmanMaleNurse
      @CaseyBoatmanMaleNurse 3 місяці тому +2

      Would be cool to see a side by side comparison of emulation and gaming.

    • @HPPrintervx4p5q
      @HPPrintervx4p5q 3 місяці тому

      make a video on the old bittboy instead

  • @retrohandhelds
    @retrohandhelds 3 місяці тому +9

    11/10 DAD VIDEO. All the puns, all the quality. I don't need this, but i'm glad its an option! -Stubbs.

  • @macky10229
    @macky10229 3 місяці тому +8

    Nice presentation. You deserved more views

    • @retrotechdad
      @retrotechdad  3 місяці тому +3

      Thank you, I appreciate that! 🙏

  • @aprilhoang2477
    @aprilhoang2477 2 місяці тому

    really good video, love all the details! i hope with the new updates we can see better performance. out of all the handhelds, the Claw just feels the best.

  • @jheithaus3
    @jheithaus3 3 місяці тому

    Fantastic video! Love the power charts for cyberpunk.

  • @ahrjaydee7001
    @ahrjaydee7001 3 місяці тому +1

    Incredible details, thanks for the awesome review.

    • @retrotechdad
      @retrotechdad  3 місяці тому

      Thank you for the kind words and for watching! 🙏

  • @Briancansen
    @Briancansen 2 місяці тому

    that ultra 5 performance sounds great. love the ergo on this!

  • @DeathByHentai
    @DeathByHentai 3 місяці тому +3

    Incredible work. The community is blessed to have you. It was interesting seeing the teardown and how the d-pad and shoulder buttons work. The sizable speakers explains the decent audio. The benchmarks must have took you a while. Keep hustling and grinding mate, you make quality videos and eventually more people will take notice.

    • @galIows
      @galIows 13 днів тому

      What a nice comment 👍

  • @chocho2188
    @chocho2188 2 місяці тому

    I messed around with one of these today. I'll stick with my ally. Thanks rob 😁

  • @michaelbenny659
    @michaelbenny659 3 місяці тому +1

    This video looks like you put a lot of work and effort into it. But how come it’s longer than 5 minutes?

  • @jvabbdac
    @jvabbdac 3 місяці тому +5

    Oh man! Z1 extreme its awesome!

    • @retrotechdad
      @retrotechdad  3 місяці тому +1

      Still amazing almost a year later 🔥🔥

    • @justswitched8841
      @justswitched8841 3 місяці тому +2

      Yup got the ally and legion go. Msi made a big mistake choosing intel

    • @MatiX415
      @MatiX415 3 місяці тому

      @@justswitched8841 intel paid msi to use their chips

  • @MalcolmLim
    @MalcolmLim 3 місяці тому

    i wonder if the claw's battery could fit in the ally? size wise it looks like it could fit

  • @NFreddplayz
    @NFreddplayz Місяць тому

    Got the steam deck and rog ally z1... These entry level PC handhelds are worth the try...😌💯

  • @gsprings43
    @gsprings43 3 місяці тому +1

    Ordered one from Best buy,,,, hopefully msi and intel unlock's the performance in this device

    • @tylersbiggestflowerboy
      @tylersbiggestflowerboy 11 днів тому

      how is it? im considering buying one

    • @gsprings43
      @gsprings43 11 днів тому

      @@tylersbiggestflowerboy there have been updates,,,I noticed better frame rates,,,I play asseto corsa,,,American,,,and euro truck sim mostly,,,and they run well on the claw

  • @rubyssss6565
    @rubyssss6565 2 місяці тому

    I think butons annd sizes depend on personal feeling and preferences, for me is not much differences. The claw's chassis and display looks really good and high quality, I really care about the display performance. For gaming tests, it looks does great job and smooth enough for me, lol. I believe MSI will keep update their CPU and GPU, so the performance should improve in the future.

  • @gumbyx84
    @gumbyx84 3 місяці тому

    Any chance you could check if the analog sticks on the Claw are compatible with the Ally?

    • @davidfaustino4476
      @davidfaustino4476 3 місяці тому

      Yep I want to know this too. His "teardown" was just removing the back plate..

  • @chrisboucher2813
    @chrisboucher2813 3 місяці тому

    I wonder if it's possible to put those rbg buttons in the Rog Ally 🤔

  • @Gh0styGames
    @Gh0styGames 3 місяці тому

    Common RTD W🎉

  • @davidfaustino4476
    @davidfaustino4476 3 місяці тому

    The Spiderman in the thumbnail is letting you know how many fps you can expect on the Claw when playing Spiderman.

  • @KwangChan-jg9hd
    @KwangChan-jg9hd 2 місяці тому

    I decided to get one since I really wanted an Intel processor gaming handheld. To be honest, my experience with it has been okay so far. But I'm still expecting the upcoming driver updates will allow the Claw to perform a bit more smoothly when I run Hogwarts Legacy on it. Great video by the way.

  • @seppeseppe-jq7nr
    @seppeseppe-jq7nr 3 місяці тому

    new driver !

  • @OblivionPrime
    @OblivionPrime 3 місяці тому

    wish we could swap the allys battery with the claws

  • @KarlParl
    @KarlParl Місяць тому

    Can you update with the new drivers?

  • @jafniazmi
    @jafniazmi 3 місяці тому

    Can FC24 support with Intel Arc graphic?

  • @nitinkastil5145
    @nitinkastil5145 3 місяці тому +1

    The other handheld that uses charging set up like MSI claw is ROG Ally.

    • @retrotechdad
      @retrotechdad  3 місяці тому

      The ROG Ally does not use two cables. The MSI Claw ships with a power block that also uses a 3-prong cable similar to what you'd see on a laptop.

    • @nitinkastil5145
      @nitinkastil5145 3 місяці тому +2

      @@retrotechdad that depends on which country you resides, you may not have two cables, but Indian variant has two charging cable just like you get in laptop charger .

    • @retrotechdad
      @retrotechdad  3 місяці тому

      Interesting, they probably do that because it's easier to swap out depending on the region.

  • @marcelo16
    @marcelo16 2 місяці тому

    The product that will make sure no other company will ever use Meteor Lake in a gaming handheld ever again

  • @dead_pixel_
    @dead_pixel_ 25 днів тому +1

    Do i get the msi ultra 5 (7 isn't available) I really love the look of it ,but so many bad reviews.Is the claw really that bad or just geeks moaning on numbers ?

    • @retrotechdad
      @retrotechdad  25 днів тому

      It has a lot of positives, it's biggest issue was/still is price to performance compared to the competition. If that is a non-issue and you just want to relax and play some games and don't get care about the numbers, then definitely! What are you looking to play?

    • @dead_pixel_
      @dead_pixel_ 25 днів тому

      @@retrotechdad Thanks for the reply,i've a switch oled so not worried about simulators,I like diablo ,cod,f1,hades,fifa all sorts really.Is the ultra 5 claw still a good option .thanks

  • @pulsargmng
    @pulsargmng 3 місяці тому +1

    Intel never fail to disappoint.

    • @Pneuma3301
      @Pneuma3301 3 місяці тому

      you're trolling 😂

    • @retrotechdad
      @retrotechdad  3 місяці тому +2

      🤪 and we really need them to not disappoint, competition is a good thing.

  • @cqllel5186
    @cqllel5186 3 місяці тому +4

    MSi CLAW at 30W is weaker than Steam Deck OLED at 15W and less
    AMD Master Race

    • @mclovinthewalrus2375
      @mclovinthewalrus2375 3 місяці тому +2

      The Steam Deck OLED beats the Ultra 7 in a lot of games, i imagine it wreaks the Ultra 5 easily. This Ultra 5 should be worth no more than 350 dollars lol

  • @KyleRuggles
    @KyleRuggles 3 місяці тому

    Great review, Rob!
    Major pass for me, at least it's a good.. ish first try for Intel? Maybe in a couple of years they'd match what AMD has today lol.

  • @mayamanign
    @mayamanign 3 місяці тому +4

    The correct answer is Steam Deck OLED. Without haptic touchpads it is irrelevant.

    • @retrotechdad
      @retrotechdad  3 місяці тому +5

      Good thing we have LOTS of options today!

    • @mayamanign
      @mayamanign 3 місяці тому

      @@retrotechdad Indeed!

    • @cqllel5186
      @cqllel5186 3 місяці тому

      Yeah a PC handheld without touchpad is like a laptop without a track pad. Nobody wants to be forced to use the stick, get a mouse, or use touch screen on a PC OS

    • @davidfaustino4476
      @davidfaustino4476 3 місяці тому

      Touchscreen for the win geniuses.

  • @michaelh3967
    @michaelh3967 3 місяці тому +1

    Have you tried playing Batman Arkham Knight? I can’t get it to open on epic games.

    • @galIows
      @galIows 13 днів тому

      Did you get it working

    • @michaelh3967
      @michaelh3967 13 днів тому

      @@galIows yes. There is a patch needed torun Arkham knight. I am now having an issue getting Ratchet and Clank to run on the MSI Claw.

  • @TRX25EX
    @TRX25EX 3 місяці тому

    It came too early to the market, it does have potential, now I have Deck OLED + Ally + my One X Player X1 155H coming now....
    I can see Intel having potential but will take time, by that time we will have Ally 2, I can't believe until today we don't have AI that does driver optimisations to save time

    • @betag24cn
      @betag24cn 3 місяці тому

      no it doesnt, intel is improvising a gpu division, this at best wilo end up being third in a two horse race

    • @TRX25EX
      @TRX25EX 3 місяці тому

      @@betag24cn it does currently A750-A770 best value GPU out there.... Even Linus made a video and showed why, it was 3050 level at first now it's around 3070 level!!!!

  • @ibelieveinjesusinmyspareti2861
    @ibelieveinjesusinmyspareti2861 3 місяці тому +3

    That thing is 900 bucks in some places in europe... The base version.

    • @retrotechdad
      @retrotechdad  3 місяці тому

      Yea, the price is absolutely bonkers. I hope we see a big drop like the Z1 ROG Ally.

    • @justswitched8841
      @justswitched8841 3 місяці тому +2

      Yet performs worse than amd that is cheaper

    • @ibelieveinjesusinmyspareti2861
      @ibelieveinjesusinmyspareti2861 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@retrotechdadin afraid that even at higher wats this gets beat by the deck. I honestly think that this Is garbage. I Wish they sticked to z1e then It wouldve made sense.

    • @SoloLynx
      @SoloLynx 3 місяці тому +1

      ridiculous do not buy this dog water product put together in months just get a steam deck lcd is very cheap now

    • @betag24cn
      @betag24cn 3 місяці тому

      imagine paying 900 dollars for a msi tablet, that comes woth a intel igpu, i think that only reviewers will buy this crap

  • @user-wx9oj2gv9u
    @user-wx9oj2gv9u 3 місяці тому

    In other channel when they compared Claw and Steam Deck Oled, SD Oled is outperforming Claw 155H in 30w TDP compared to 15w TDP of SD Oled in AAA games fps with same settings. 😂 Then the Claw’s frequent tearing is still very visible as ever.😂

  • @EvaWan-ie1hg
    @EvaWan-ie1hg 2 місяці тому

    Want an Intel handheld to run Hogwarts Legacy, the ultra core looks good and the battery life is nice. Will wait for more updates on MSI software to see a smoother performance

  • @JerrardJDDavis-gy9hh
    @JerrardJDDavis-gy9hh 25 днів тому

    Will It Play PS2 Or Gamecube

  • @danielsmith2939
    @danielsmith2939 3 місяці тому

    Looks the same as the Rog ally

  • @drew3488
    @drew3488 3 місяці тому

    The performance just isn't there yet with the 135 or 155 the steam deck does more frames at half the watts. Msi dropped the ball everyone

  • @betag24cn
    @betag24cn 3 місяці тому +1

    stop! its the CLAW

  • @sneakybobinson3252
    @sneakybobinson3252 3 місяці тому +1

    Unfortunately it will be cursed by Intel drivers...

    • @retrotechdad
      @retrotechdad  3 місяці тому

      It's already slow going, there hasn't been a new update since end of last month. 🤦‍♂️

    • @sneakybobinson3252
      @sneakybobinson3252 3 місяці тому

      @@retrotechdad I am not surprised... After owning a GPD WIN 3 I pretty much wrote off Intel in applications like this. Maybe they will make a comeback though!

  • @Gh0styGames
    @Gh0styGames 3 місяці тому

    MSi naw 😵

  • @chriskim5535
    @chriskim5535 3 місяці тому

    So much more expensive than Steamdeck yet worse in performance......

  • @MalcolmLim
    @MalcolmLim 3 місяці тому

    those buying this unit good luck - to access the SSD you have to disassemble the daughterboard..what an annoying design.

  • @mlnima
    @mlnima 3 місяці тому

    I am sure it will break in 2 years when the low quality plastic is dry or expired 😂

  • @Saschabrix
    @Saschabrix 2 місяці тому

    Msi FLAW….

  • @zomg346
    @zomg346 3 місяці тому

    Garbage 😂😂

  • @TinTalon
    @TinTalon 3 місяці тому

    Another great video. Not sure the Claw is going to me for me. Think i will pass on this one for now.

  • @TheMasterwitcher
    @TheMasterwitcher 3 місяці тому +3

    1. It looks horrible to me
    2. The price will make it flop af
    3. Hell nah

    • @retrotechdad
      @retrotechdad  3 місяці тому +2

      Priced to fail and not compete, unfortunately.

    • @TheMasterwitcher
      @TheMasterwitcher 3 місяці тому

      @retrotechdad absolutely. Just don't get why are they being this thick. Unnecessary waste of production money if it isn't going to make it back. Also, your content is amazing and you always cover what I need and expect that I would want to know before making a decision to purchase anything. Thank you for your hard work ^^