It's so funny how people will try and spin whatever negative narrative they can around a film. Clearly not realising that "The Studio" is James Gunn himself! 😂
Right. You can tell right away the story is sus because Abdy & DeLuca at WB Pictures have no creative or operational control over DC Studios' productions or their trailers. They're two separate studios, two separate divisions. It wouldn't be DeLuca giving any notes to editing... that'd strictly be James Gunn.
DC Studios is a division of WB Pictures, not it‘s own studio actually, so operationally little has changed to how it was before Gunn came in. It‘s mainly just a branding exercise. So of course the heads at WB Pictures have some control, no matter what Gunn might say publicly.
@kropianimation1774 Absolutely False! But keep trying. These are facts that have been documented in every trade and business publication. Unlike the former "DC Films" subdivision of WB Pictures, DC Studios is its own division and studio and is not aligned under WB Pictures. James Gunn and Peter Safran report directly to WBD CEO David Zaslav, not Abdy & DeLuca at WB Pictures. Gunn & Safran and Abdy & DeLuca respectively each hold the same position at their respective studios: Co-CEO and Chairperson. The only thing DC Studios coordinates with WB Pictures is distribution. But WB Pictures, per Zaslav, has no creative authority over DC Studios productions. Facts.
@@Mirakulus9 As per the Wikipedia article: "DC Studios is a division of Warner Bros. Entertainment". Division is the key word here. It's not a self-sufficiant company like Marvel Studios, Lucasfilm, Pixar, Dreamworks, etc. are. Those are subsidaries of their mother company. DC "Studios" is a division, they work under the umbrella of the Warner Bros. Motion Picture Group, a.k.a what Abdy & Luca are CEOs of. It's an exercise in rebranding. Operationally, nothing has changed. You can see that by how things like Super/Man the Christopher Reeve documentary were branded with DC Studios on it despite the fact they're not the ones that made that movie. Or how The Penguin got a DC Studios logo slapped on despite not being made there.
Yeah, this was just a lot of ginned up trailer "drama" from the same folks having a meltdown right now over Creature Commandos getting good reviews lol. I'm just looking forward to Superman 2025.
As a non Superman fan, im mildly excited, I did not like man of steel, and want to see someone do the Boy Scout justice, and put him in difficult situations.
The whole venture of Discovery going so far out on a limb to buy Warner Brothers hinges on this movie being a hit. If it isn't, the billion dollar souffle is going to collapse. But no pressure, Jimmy G.
Honestly I would prefer if everyone didn't sing during a movie or stage performance. It's fine if it's like "Hey, let's set up this thing where a bunch of fans watch this in a theater". But for my first viewing I want to be able to clearly hear the performance and not get distracted by the people around me.
No, it was Frank Grillo who said he saw part of it and it gave him shivers and goosebumps. Gunn would obviously have the rough trailer cut on his hard drive while he was reviewing it and giving notes for revisions. Stop trying to gin up fake drama and go watch Rebel Moon 😂
Yes, because Dan Marcus is a gossip girl in a sewing circle, nothing more. He heard it from a guy who knew a chick who's cousin got his haircut by a guy who got fired from WB.
@@cable7152 Haha exactly. DeLuca at WB Pictures doesn't even have any creative say over DC Studios' productions including their trailers. They're two separate studios, two separate divisions.
Also, of course Gunn is going to say he likes it. He's not just the director, he's also the head of the studio. So he's going to hype everything they put out. He's not going to publicly announce that the flagship project Warner is banking on being a hit was disappointing. That would be insane. So yes, even if the trailer is a piece of garbage, he's going say it's great. I assure you, he's going to lie about a lot of projects, just like he lied about The Flash being a good movie. That's part of his job as the creative head of the studio. His priority isn't to be a good boy and telling the truth, it's to supporting the company as best he can. Not to mention the countless people that helped him make the movie. He's not just speaking for himself, he's protecting their jobs.
@@rottensquidThe trailer isn't out yet, so you don't know how good or bad it is. He can only judge him on his previous trailers, and the Guardians trailers are decent. Besides, he said he uses more specific feedback than "make it better," which shows that he knows what does and doesn't makes a good trailer.
Are these people who want it “better” also the people who had Joss Wheaton completely change justice league while Zach was grieving his daughter’s death?
@@Mirakulus9 absolutely I want nothing more than for this to be a banger, Gunn's track record is pretty much nothing but hits but just on some level it would be kinda funny if this happens to be his only bad movie. Id find it funny only to cover my total sadness
@thefriendlynoob7 I can understand it, like watching a horrible car crash involving a school bus, but it has funny noises. It's horrible, but you can't help laughing
... the number of shills that WB's hired to run interference in these comments is genuinely impressive. But hey, I can see them bolstering their little PR militia in a big ol' way after the whole Joker 2 thing.
Ah yes, a classic movie studio marketing strategy! Random internet commenters being paid on a contract basis to say positive things about unreleased movies on videos with less than 5k views. What a good use of a marketing budget! Typically a marketing team needs to demonstrate return-on-investment in order to justify even a mid-size campaign spend. But in WB’s case, I’m sure they have complete faith that their untested, unproven youtube comment strategy will translate to big box office $$$! After all, if there’s one demographic that needs to be convinced to see a superhero movie, it’s superhero movie fans who hang out in comment sections of superhero movie UA-cam videos
Is it a musical? sing all you want as I highly doubt other people willing to sit through a musical will care. If it's not a musical then wtf are you doing singing?
Superman is gonna be total shit. It's pretty much guaranteed at this point. The costume alone looks not only awful, but it's already dated. I'm already preparing myself to hit the back button halfway through the movie when I'm streaming it at home.
@@matthewtopping2061 The only good thing about Snyder's Superman, besides Cavil, was the S shield. There hasn't been a good on-screen Superman in at least 45 years.
I know you're very excited to watch Superman in theatres. Chill out. We all are very excited as well. Everyone is very excited for Gunn's DCU and Superman is the most anticipated movie of 2025. Real DC fans are winning HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I just want a complete reversal where the DC live-action movies are good while the animated Marvel adaptations are amazing.
I just want good DC and Marvel live-action movies and every animated movie is terrible
Here's an idea: how bout everyone puts out good stuff across the board. I wouldn't mind getting spoiled that way
Give me quality animated moon knight 🙏🏼
@@Mirakulus9How dare you wish this upon the world
Spiderverse is so much better than DCs childish animation efforts it’s not even funny..
Oh, sure, but when I sing "Seven Nation Army" during Schindler's List, they ask me to leave...
*Cinemas should have special showtime for people that want to sing. Like how they used to have smoking and non smoking shows*
They do, not for smoking but for singing.
Dwayne Johnson hasn’t been in a theatre with anyone else in like 20 years, so of course he can sing in theatre.
It's so funny how people will try and spin whatever negative narrative they can around a film. Clearly not realising that "The Studio" is James Gunn himself! 😂
Right. You can tell right away the story is sus because Abdy & DeLuca at WB Pictures have no creative or operational control over DC Studios' productions or their trailers. They're two separate studios, two separate divisions. It wouldn't be DeLuca giving any notes to editing... that'd strictly be James Gunn.
DC Studios is a division of WB Pictures, not it‘s own studio actually, so operationally little has changed to how it was before Gunn came in. It‘s mainly just a branding exercise. So of course the heads at WB Pictures have some control, no matter what Gunn might say publicly.
@kropianimation1774 Absolutely False! But keep trying. These are facts that have been documented in every trade and business publication. Unlike the former "DC Films" subdivision of WB Pictures, DC Studios is its own division and studio and is not aligned under WB Pictures. James Gunn and Peter Safran report directly to WBD CEO David Zaslav, not Abdy & DeLuca at WB Pictures. Gunn & Safran and Abdy & DeLuca respectively each hold the same position at their respective studios: Co-CEO and Chairperson. The only thing DC Studios coordinates with WB Pictures is distribution. But WB Pictures, per Zaslav, has no creative authority over DC Studios productions. Facts.
@@kropianimation1774 Lol. You just got debunked with facts, homeboy 😂
@@Mirakulus9 As per the Wikipedia article: "DC Studios is a division of Warner Bros. Entertainment". Division is the key word here. It's not a self-sufficiant company like Marvel Studios, Lucasfilm, Pixar, Dreamworks, etc. are. Those are subsidaries of their mother company. DC "Studios" is a division, they work under the umbrella of the Warner Bros. Motion Picture Group, a.k.a what Abdy & Luca are CEOs of. It's an exercise in rebranding. Operationally, nothing has changed. You can see that by how things like Super/Man the Christopher Reeve documentary were branded with DC Studios on it despite the fact they're not the ones that made that movie. Or how The Penguin got a DC Studios logo slapped on despite not being made there.
A lot of this is just James doxxing himself for a specific date
i can't wait for the dark money funded Kraven review!
#Kravecember #KravenKrypto
Sacond. Love when these guys crack each other up! Sure cheers me up🌞
Whole clip completely derailed for a second there
Yeah, this was just a lot of ginned up trailer "drama" from the same folks having a meltdown right now over Creature Commandos getting good reviews lol. I'm just looking forward to Superman 2025.
As a non Superman fan, im mildly excited, I did not like man of steel, and want to see someone do the Boy Scout justice, and put him in difficult situations.
No, it’s not ok to sing in cinemas unless it’s a screening which it’s for. What…Kraven is actually being released?
The whole venture of Discovery going so far out on a limb to buy Warner Brothers hinges on this movie being a hit. If it isn't, the billion dollar souffle is going to collapse. But no pressure, Jimmy G.
Grab that Jam Factory
Genuinely thought that one whipping guy was Jonathan Depp
Its not okay to sing in cinemas
Honestly I would prefer if everyone didn't sing during a movie or stage performance. It's fine if it's like "Hey, let's set up this thing where a bunch of fans watch this in a theater". But for my first viewing I want to be able to clearly hear the performance and not get distracted by the people around me.
It was also delayed because of GNX lol
Ah yes the intelligent executives at WB who ran the previous era of dc so well
I thought i was out.. and they pull me back in!
I'm confused! Gunn said 3 weeks ago he had the trailer on a drive and it was great " he had shivers" and now he doesn't like it
Did Gunn lie.
No, it was Frank Grillo who said he saw part of it and it gave him shivers and goosebumps.
Gunn would obviously have the rough trailer cut on his hard drive while he was reviewing it and giving notes for revisions. Stop trying to gin up fake drama and go watch Rebel Moon 😂
Yes, because Dan Marcus is a gossip girl in a sewing circle, nothing more. He heard it from a guy who knew a chick who's cousin got his haircut by a guy who got fired from WB.
@@cable7152 Haha exactly. DeLuca at WB Pictures doesn't even have any creative say over DC Studios' productions including their trailers. They're two separate studios, two separate divisions.
Also, of course Gunn is going to say he likes it. He's not just the director, he's also the head of the studio. So he's going to hype everything they put out. He's not going to publicly announce that the flagship project Warner is banking on being a hit was disappointing. That would be insane.
So yes, even if the trailer is a piece of garbage, he's going say it's great. I assure you, he's going to lie about a lot of projects, just like he lied about The Flash being a good movie. That's part of his job as the creative head of the studio. His priority isn't to be a good boy and telling the truth, it's to supporting the company as best he can. Not to mention the countless people that helped him make the movie. He's not just speaking for himself, he's protecting their jobs.
@@rottensquidThe trailer isn't out yet, so you don't know how good or bad it is. He can only judge him on his previous trailers, and the Guardians trailers are decent.
Besides, he said he uses more specific feedback than "make it better," which shows that he knows what does and doesn't makes a good trailer.
Remember when news was based on fact and not, "so this is just what I've heard." Yah, me neither.
Rumors about a movie trailer isn’t news my guy, it’s tabloid gossip, which has always existed
@@pstratos7that sux, because I only watch Mr. SUNDAY to get my world news. Lol
Haha! Aussie "fuckin" comes out! 😂
Safran does take any old slop technically, because he's the producer of Shazam 2 (also Shazam, but thats a great film)
making a great trailer really takes high talent and luck
Are these people who want it “better” also the people who had Joss Wheaton completely change justice league while Zach was grieving his daughter’s death?
James Gunn's DC is going to flop even worse than Snyder's. And even when trailers look ok, the films will often suck bigtime.
No it's not okay.
At this point it would simply be pretty funny if james gunn's Superman sucked
It'd be far funnier if Supeman 2025 were amazing just to watch the all whiners have a meltdown
@@Mirakulus9 I second this. Sick of the rampantly toxic subset of the fandom.
Funny? Seems pretty likely if you ask me
@@Mirakulus9 absolutely I want nothing more than for this to be a banger, Gunn's track record is pretty much nothing but hits but just on some level it would be kinda funny if this happens to be his only bad movie. Id find it funny only to cover my total sadness
@thefriendlynoob7 I can understand it, like watching a horrible car crash involving a school bus, but it has funny noises. It's horrible, but you can't help laughing
God i hate comic book discourse at this stage, literally talking about 1st drafts of an unreleased trailer and its news.
“Make it better”?? Does that mean put a chick in it and make her lame and gay?
... the number of shills that WB's hired to run interference in these comments is genuinely impressive.
But hey, I can see them bolstering their little PR militia in a big ol' way after the whole Joker 2 thing.
@@Mirakulus9 settle down gunnguzzler
Ah yes, a classic movie studio marketing strategy! Random internet commenters being paid on a contract basis to say positive things about unreleased movies on videos with less than 5k views. What a good use of a marketing budget! Typically a marketing team needs to demonstrate return-on-investment in order to justify even a mid-size campaign spend. But in WB’s case, I’m sure they have complete faith that their untested, unproven youtube comment strategy will translate to big box office $$$! After all, if there’s one demographic that needs to be convinced to see a superhero movie, it’s superhero movie fans who hang out in comment sections of superhero movie UA-cam videos
lol. Do you actually believe that? WB is paying nerds to comment on YT videos?
furst
More like wurst GOTTEEEMMMM
Is it a musical? sing all you want as I highly doubt other people willing to sit through a musical will care. If it's not a musical then wtf are you doing singing?
You could not be more wrong about other people not caring
Start singing during a Broadway show and see what happens 😂
@Renoistic if it's a musical, then sing. If it's not, you are not right in the head 🤷♀️
The fun part of movies is that you can sing in the movie theater.
Superman is gonna be total shit. It's pretty much guaranteed at this point. The costume alone looks not only awful, but it's already dated. I'm already preparing myself to hit the back button halfway through the movie when I'm streaming it at home.
Oof. Someone's moody and Snyder-pilled over here.
@@matthewtopping2061 The only good thing about Snyder's Superman, besides Cavil, was the S shield. There hasn't been a good on-screen Superman in at least 45 years.
I know you're very excited to watch Superman in theatres. Chill out. We all are very excited as well.
Everyone is very excited for Gunn's DCU and Superman is the most anticipated movie of 2025. Real DC fans are winning HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
@@brian5771 I'm hyped! Can't wait for a trailer!
Literally, a comic-accurate suit with minor updates. Ok then