How to start your own PRIVATE cloud server | NO FEES ever again!
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- Опубліковано 4 бер 2024
- Cloud storage is nice, until it isn't. Between concerns about privacy, safety and data security, in addition to rising costs, there has to be a better solution to have all your personal and private data at your fingertips without paying an arm and a leg for it...
There is: it's called the BeeStation by Synology. It's a revolutionary product that might just forever change the way you think about cloud computing, and also put some money back in your pocket in the process.
Today, I do a review of this product, and also offer you my thoughts on both the good AND the bad. Enjoy!
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Single; non-redundant drive, though. Make sure to back up to something else regularly, for when that drive dies.
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Regarding 7:52 to 8:02 : This means that Synology is constantly monitoring every internet-connected BeeStation. Considering this incursion, the user's data privacy with this physical box at home is no better than using a remote cloud storage service. In fact, it may be even worse, because if Synology can see through the user's router to connect to the BeeStation, does this mean Synology can also see ALL internet traffic on the user's router? Stuff to think about.
If a user owns a device that requires connectivity to its manufacturer, that user does not really own the device. They say "The cloud is just somebody else's computer." That is true. The BeeStation is "somebody else's computer" (Synology's) physically in the user's home, with all of the user's data on it, with a wired connection to the user's router. Because this is being sold on the premise of data privacy, it may be the most personally invasive proprietary IoT device I've ever heard of.
Interestingly you didn't get any response to your comment from Computer Guy 😂😂😂
Because the computer guy is still responding to comments from 6-7 weeks back. Haven't gotten to it yet 👍
What luck finding this without looking!! I need, thank you 😊
Stay tuned. Link isn't live yet. Product is going public today in the US. Noted that in the description. Just check back later please 👍
Will be watching for the release. Thanks 🙏
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Just updated the link where you can buy it direct from Synology. When my affiliate link starts working, I’ll use that one. Check the description again for a working link. Thanks!
Looks like it’s gone already! Great price. I guess I’ll keep watching 😅
Thanks, Scott. Yours is a top channel - such useful information. 👍
Thank you so much! I appreciate that 👍
I could have copied my comment from your other video and pasted it in here! You've Done It Again! AWESOME!
While some people still nitpick cloud systems, something like this can be Invaluable to the majority of others!
[We had a pretty serious 'attack' on our Network - when 'I' thought it was just isolated to 1 computer, then 2, etc.]
I am Definitely going to go this sort of route [once I can] to protect/secure my new Personal network system..
Thank You Again for bringing this up and to everyone's attention! It is Very Much Appreciated!
Keep up the Great work man!!
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Thank you, Sam! I appreciate your continuing support and I'm glad you enjoy my content and also maybe every now and then discover something new and useful for your needs 👍
I would never use a cloud server. Just do your own backups and store it in a safety deposit box or other place.
Agreed, but many people need access to their files away from home. If not, you're 100% correct
@AskYourComputerGuy They can setup a Nas storage or use external USB drives for the backups.
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I like the idea but am worried about my external backup drives failing so I lose everything
@deirdrebhandmade well ideally you want to keep at least 2 copies of your data. Never put it all in one place
I used to have a Synology 2-bay and configured with mirroring (RAID 0) with 2 x 4TB hard drives. I didn't use cloud storage, until the day that both drives failed within an hour of each other.
The drives were identical WD 4TB Red Pros that were purchased at the same time. Failure occurred after 1 year, 10 months, and 2 days old. I lost over 20 years of photos, research, music, and sentimental value files. I did try a data recovery service but at the time, they wanted over $2.5K and I couldn't afford it.
Now, I use cloud storage together with a separate cloud backup (Backblaze) solution. I also download a zipped copy of the entire cloud weekly, and store on my local 4TB SSD - which also gets backed up via Backblaze. I won't ever go back to a NAS.
That's crazy that both drives failed so close together. I'm so sorry to hear that 🥲
My guess is that if one is running Windows, that OS may do things with such storage that one could find undesirable. Maybe the server software actually provides more protection.
The Amazon product link seems incorrect. As is, it goes to a Page Not Found error. But then I deleted characters at the end starting with the percent character. Looks like there's an encoded space at the end of the URL. I deleted that, and the product link now takes me to a different Synology NAS product unrelated to the BeeStation.
Product is going public today in the US. Noted that in the description. Just check back later please 👍
Just updated the link where you can buy it direct from Synology. When my affiliate link starts working, I’ll use that one. Check the description again for a working link. Thanks!
There is no Cloud. It is a Computer somewhere, as you say. I do not rely on anyone for my Personal Data and Backups.
Understood. But if you were going to, I'd much rather use a friend or family member...at least you know you can trust them. But I get it 👍
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I agree, Scott. And if I wasn't retired, Synology would definitely be a solution I would be looking into. But in my twilight years, I don't have the volume of data to justify the expense. This is a sweet video though.
Good point, and thank you for the positive feedback 👍
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You're welcome.
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once configured , can you plug it anywhere in you house with a wifi extender with rj45 connection ?
Yes you can! You just need a wired connection to set it up. An extender will act like a "wired" connection
So, can an existing Synology drive like the DS220J run BeeStation? If not, do you forsee or is there any indication from Synology they will make this a software edition for these NAS servers in the future? I like my NAS but it's way more complicated than I need so I'm looking for suggestions for a set up that is really just files & photo's like BeeStation on this existing NAS .....
I don't see them ever doing that, but I could be wrong. BeeStation Manager is simple by design and a NAS (DSM specifically) while still relatively simple (drag and drop) is geared more towards tdch-savvy folks, versus the majority of people who aren't 🤷♂️
Cloud storage has gotten a lot better. I use pCloud along with there crypto storage and I got the 2TB life plan. Personally I wouldn’t really on something sitting at home that could be damaged or stolen,not if it’s the only thing I use . At least not with just using one type of storage. I do have some more important files also on a flash drive for now in a fire safe. Someday maybe I can get an external drive for more file and on site storage. You typically want 3 backups and not really just on one. Someday we may only rely on cloud storage.
Maybe so 🤷♂️
@@AskYourComputerGuy Yeah, the single point aspect has me leery. I already use a cloud backup, so this might work in my case since it would give me the suspenders to hold up my pants as I already have the belt. I already knew about the Synology brand (retired IT sys admin) but haven't paid attention to their newer products. Thank you.
@bikeny hope it answered a few questions at worst 👍
For simple backups it is less costly to purchase an 8 GB or larger external Hard drive, most people who practice OS backups are probably already aware of this. Also they may use the free version of Macrium Reflect which works effectively and is very reliable.
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What a great proposition. Thank you very much. (By the way, a whisker from 100,000, I see).
Yep, not much longer now! 😂
@@AskYourComputerGuyI saw the counter behind you and the site is currently (20:35 EST, 6March24) showing 99.3K subs (I'm already of them or I'd have done it now).
@bikeny yep...hope to hit it by Saturday, hosting a party for my friends and local supporters 👍
So we have a case aleady with hardrives and it is not Beestation/Synology, will the software still work with this?
You can create your own NAS that way, but not sure that Synology software would work. But I'm sure there are open source programs that will
@@AskYourComputerGuy possible future video for this please?
Great idea! Thanks 👍
Thanks! 3:33 sounds insecure. What if the invited person’s email gets hacked?
Thanks for the super! And it depends on when they were hacked. Even if the invitee got hacked after creating the account, the worst thing that would happen is that the hacker would still have to login to their "new" virtual cloud drive. That information isn't stored in email. If necessary, the host could delete the cloud folder and the invitee could create another one after they got their system cleaned 👍
Can I install this on a regular Synology 4 drive bay?
I don't believe the BeeStation software is compatible, but I would check the Synology website FAQ to be sure 👍
Can you expand storage by adding an external USB hard drive?
Yep!
Thank you
4 TB is not much space for system backups and some other types of software, videos, music, art, etc.
Depends on who you are and what you have to save. I have local clients whose total backups are less than 2GB. Some are terabytes 🤷♂️
Can this be used and set up without a smartphone..? I don't have or want one of those. Too many devices seem to assume everybody has one.
100% yes! I just set it up using my smart phone to show that it could be done that easily...but absolutely yes
@@AskYourComputerGuyThanks, the non-swappable drive is a negative though.
@TestGearJunkie. Which is why I listed it as a "con". Not a deal-breaker for some, but absolutely for others 👍
This reminds me - I was recently Shocked to discover why my Gdrive allotment of storage was getting to the Full side when I never upload to it. It turns out every picture or video taken with my cell phone gets automatically uploaded to the Gdrive from the phone! Even though those files are still on your phone you have to go to the Gdrive to remove them manually. I do not know if there is a way to tell the phone not to upload those files. ( Android 11 I refuse to upgrade to 12)
wish I knew...not a phone guy 🤷♂️
Do you recommend Microsoft Defender for Virus protection or would you recommend a paid anti-virus product?
Depends on your needs. If you are a basic user who doesn't click on unknown links, doesn't go to websites that you don't trust, and generally practices safe online habits, Defender should be sufficient. Would also download MalwareBytes, even if you use the free version. It's a good backup to have 👍
Very interesting, i will chek it out for me photos and videos ,i take of family and events it seams perfect 4 tb is ok thenk you for the video
You're welcome!
I absolutely refuse to pay a monthly fee for products where it should be unnecessary. I never trusted the security of cloud servers. For years I've been using personal other options.
I have a NAS which backs up data from my PC, but I also have cloud storage. Why? Well, if my computer equipment was stolen or my house burned down, then I've lost everything. No way to get those important documents or photos back. With cloud storage you can. I hope that I'll never need to use it for such an occurrence, but it's there as a fail safe.
Always good to have backups to your backups :)
You absolutely need off site back up to cover natural disasters, fires, etc. If you only have one backup, you have no backup. I keep one local, one online. I could see if you have one of these and your friend/relative living in another state got one and you each served as one another's backup .... as long as you both wouldn't be hit by the same wild fire/flood/tornado/etc.
Hi, I have A corrupted fat 32 in Windows 10 and there is A easy way to fix, so I can clone my hardrive to bigger hardrive.
Yes you can, but you will have a corrupted FAT table on the target drive too
Just trying to fix the corrupted fat 32.
@@curtlandgraff5380 I ended up with a corrupted drive. I think Microsoft broke it on purpose. My first error was that I couldn't use the device because it didn't have a password and someone might steal my information. Who my dog? So I messaged support and told them they have no right to deny me because of household issues. They have no right to decide if my home is safe or not. Then the very next time I plugged it in it said it was broke. The drive was less than 2 months old and ruggedized. Seems to me Microsoft broke it instead of giving me my property back. Uploaded it to Google and left Microsoft to the point I installed Linux not dual boot and now Google wants to charge me $99 to get my photos back.
Sorry, the Amazon link displays a page not found error message.
Product is going public today in the US. Noted that in the description. Just check back later please 👍
Just updated the link where you can buy it direct from Synology. When my affiliate link starts working, I’ll use that one. Check the description again for a working link. Thanks!
The Amazon link in description does not work for me😢
Product just came to market today. Amazon may not have it available for viewing yet. I noted that in the description. Just check back later please 👍
Just updated the link where you can buy it direct from Synology. When my affiliate link starts working, I’ll use that one. Check the description again for a working link. Thanks!
Your product page link does not work!
Just updated the link where you can buy it direct from Synology. When my affiliate link starts working, I’ll use that one. Check the description again for a working link. Thanks!
all these devices like Qnap, Synology and Terra they can all look in your work
Do you have any evidence of this? I would find that to be a most heinous privacy violation, not just data collection, but actual invasion of privacy. Send me what you have to validate the claim, I'll be happy to address it personally with the company.
@@AskYourComputerGuy It just word of mouth. If Apple, Google, and Microsoft can do it, why not these companies. I stop using Synology 10 years ago and set up my own remote network from home using my Dell Server.
@NoFilter2024 ok
Product link is not working
Product is going public today in the US. Noted that in the description. Just check back later please 👍
Just updated the link where you can buy it direct from Synology. When my affiliate link starts working, I’ll use that one. Check the description again for a working link. Thanks!
link doesnt work
Product is going public today in the US. Noted that in the description. Just check back later please 👍
Just updated the link where you can buy it direct from Synology. When my affiliate link starts working, I’ll use that one. Check the description again for a working link. Thanks!
Sephiroth storage might be better
Haven't heard of that brand
imo: cloud is data stored outside your home. lol! and a single drive not removeable....seems like a waste of money. Any nas shared with internet seems better. imho
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I have NEVER entertained the IDIOTIC notion of storing my data in the "cloud"!!
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Not idiotic if you encrypt data before sending.
@@tendosingh5682 Is anything really encrypted? You do you. 👍👍👍👍
@tendosingh5682 good point 👍
You're not really helping people by doing this video, I care about my privacy.
You cannot trust the Cloud Storage; local storage is the way.
This is a video about exactly that...creating your own private cloud server 🤷♂️