I also use a NAS unit that can be configured for Time Machine backups, this is straightforward unless something goes wrong, TM error messages always seem to be deliberately obscure, it tells you that there’s been a failure but not what went wrong 😮
I don’t know how well Synology performs as a personal NAS but on an enterprise scale DELL is #1, we switched from Synology to DELL and I’ve never been happier, though recently Nutanix are putting up a fight as well.
Those are tiny disks for a 5 bay unit. 8TB are the sweet spot with Seagate Ironwolf Pro or EXOS at the moment if you don't wonna go 12TB plus per disk (which makes me a bit nervous, as it's just too many eggs in one basket). I just ordered 4x 8TB drives to upgrade my aging 4x3TB setup from many moons ago, which is running out of space now.
Next time that you setup a synology nas, use SHR1 or SHR2 that is like raid5 and raid6. With their shr , you can upgrade 2 drives and your array and your storage will expand. With your raid 5 setup, you will need to upgrade all your drive to expand your storage.
If you lose the Synology you lose all your backups. I back up to local drives - a local bootable clone drive and a local Time Machine as well as a remote NAS Time Machine on a Synology NAS. My daily driver - a 2020 iMac 5K - has a Drobo 8D disk array and backs up to Thunderbolt drives with a bootable clone, a Time Machine, and a Synology Time Machine. The 8D backs up to the same Synology (50 TB worth) and the iMac's boot drive and 8D back up to a remote BackBlaze (which would still be there if my house burned down). My other machines - a 2021 MacBook Pro and the family's 2017 iMac 5K just back up to local drives and the NAS as described above as they contain no mission critical data. Drobo has for the most part gone out of business, so when the 8D fails I'll probably replace it with a 8 Bay locally connected Synology with my main driver connected to the Synology in my office connected to a 10 gb switch, hooked up to one of the LAN ports of my Wifi mesh office satellite. It'll take a while to restore from the family room Synology which is connected to the main router, though I could install a 10 gb ethernet port and bring it upstairs and hook it in to the 10 gb switch to restore much more quickly. Once both arrays are on Synology NAS, backing up will be much less complicated as I can set up a NAS NAS backup to happen automagically. When this happens, I'll probably update my Wifi 6 mesh (currently a NetGear Orbi RBK853) to a 953 Wifi 6e mesh which has at least one 2.5 gb LAN port per satellite which will vastly speed up node to node throughput. If I had ethernet wired in my house this would be a better solution, but unfortunately I don't as it's an older house before home networking was a consideration.
My favoirte thing about a NAS is that it's still a "regular" old server. It can do so much more than store data. For instance, my NAS downloads and seeds all my torrents and hosts Pi-Hole on my network. I have many more projects and plans to research as well. I agree with the title. Everyone should have a NAS. :)
The immense cost of owning a NAS is never explained properly. You will have the unit and need to pay for all the extra disks, which adds an easy 800 bucks to the price of the NAS making it go to 1500+. But it is true, very true, that in order to be serious about this you will need a beefy unit to hold the data for a content creator.
Ever looked at the cost of storing 20TB upwards in the cloud? If you have that much data, then it is cheaper to pay the upfront cost as you will get it back in 18 months.
Great Videos! Thank you. Is there a chance to use this as a kind of cloud so I can backup my pictures from my Iphone. Basically to have my own Icloud service? Thank you
problem with prefering a nas over a cloud service, is that the initial investment is insane, a nas cost over $500, a few hard drives cost over $100, and if you go with ssd nvme which is what some companies are starting to make (ugreen) can go up to $350 to $400, i pay for both onedrive and icloud and i pay around $160 annually, so, do you really think is worth it?
I use the ds220+ but thats enough for my usecase. I dont need to backup a ton of data. I use it for music streaming and backup my photos. A 5 bay nas would be overkill. You hadnt to blur the LAN IP this ip is that nternal noone outside of your LAN can do anything with this IP
Not sure, but I genuinely like them, so I have no problem doing a video like this for that. I often turn down opportunities for brands I don’t use or don’t like.
how can you make a cloud server with Tmobile home internet, that router doesn't allow me to open port forwarding. and I don't want to use the third channeling stuff software, so I can back up via the cloud.
Hey I didn’t really find something about that online. I would like to have a synology, mainly for backups. I would like to have automatic backups (weekly for example) for all of my devices, wich are MacBook, iPad and iPhone. With Time Machine for the Mac shouldnt be an issue. But is there an easy way to backup the iPhone and iPad via synology???
This NAS seems like complete overkill for a basic dude like myself that just has a laptop he wants to be backed up. Wish you recommended some more simplistic options for those who aren’t dealing with 90TB of data.
hey @zollotech I'm a big fun of all your videos, does your NAS server supports or use ssd drives cause I see that your using hard drives which is not fast when backing up data.....
These are server hard drives so more expensive than regular hard drives, cost about ~$100~150 each for 4TB, depending on if you buy Seagate Wolf or Western Digital Red server drives that handle vibrations
@@dovan4092 That's absolutely correct, you have to decide whether you trust Synology. Whether you're trusting Synology's software (or hardware) or with the various cloud storage options, people think its some magical secret place. I don't care if it's iCloud or some other cloud option, cloud storage is simply someone else's computer and hard drive.
Synology and macs finder don’t like each other, however with Windows it works good. It takes to long to load dir contents when you are browsing via smb3 protocol
@@zollotech browsing directories on a smb3 mounted NAS on a mac takes a long time (5-10sec) to “load” while doing it on windows machine via smb3 is less than a second. I followed pretty much exact setup as you on a video. I wish I could resolve this as finder freeze up even my local opened directories while loadin. could be network problem but windows is on a same domain. My file transfers from windows to nas are faster than mac to nas. It works but it is annoying so I avoid using synology with my mac other than time machine backup.
More storage, high resolution, Synology Photos and Drive apps, remote secure access if you want it enabled, buy a 60W+ UPS to run it on, multiple users or separate storage accounts, look at @SpaceRex videos, you pay once for the NAS enclosure and the server drives instead of a monthly payment, look at using SHR-2 instead of RAID configuration which helps when you have a hard drive failure and also enables bonus features
Although I respect synology for their reputation and software suite. I couldn't pull the trigger on this NAS, it was too underwhelming for the cost. I went with an asustor, with built in nvme support and at least 2.5 gbe lan upgradeable to 10gbe lan.
I’m not a UA-camr and I have one. Its not about having a lot of money it’s planning accordingly. Amazon offers pay over time so paying 30-40 dollars a month seems very affordable to me..
What do you use to back up? Thanks for watching, it is always appreciated.
I also use a NAS unit that can be configured for Time Machine backups, this is straightforward unless something goes wrong, TM error messages always seem to be deliberately obscure, it tells you that there’s been a failure but not what went wrong 😮
I use my computer! I love your content so much, Aaron! Keep it up!:)
@@mraustinfelt XDDD
Have a 920+ Use for TIme Machine backup, iPhone photos, and I also dabble in docker containers.
Just a basic 5TB LaCie with Time Machine. Nuttin fancy but it works.
I don’t know how well Synology performs as a personal NAS but on an enterprise scale DELL is #1, we switched from Synology to DELL and I’ve never been happier, though recently Nutanix are putting up a fight as well.
yes if you are using blade servers Dell has a lot of solutions as well.
Those are tiny disks for a 5 bay unit. 8TB are the sweet spot with Seagate Ironwolf Pro or EXOS at the moment if you don't wonna go 12TB plus per disk (which makes me a bit nervous, as it's just too many eggs in one basket). I just ordered 4x 8TB drives to upgrade my aging 4x3TB setup from many moons ago, which is running out of space now.
Yeah, actually should just go straight to 16TB hdds. For a UA-cam channel 4TB lasts you a few months at most
Good afternoon Aaron 👌☺️❤️
Next time that you setup a synology nas, use SHR1 or SHR2 that is like raid5 and raid6. With their shr , you can upgrade 2 drives and your array and your storage will expand. With your raid 5 setup, you will need to upgrade all your drive to expand your storage.
If you lose the Synology you lose all your backups.
I back up to local drives - a local bootable clone drive and a local Time Machine as well as a remote NAS Time Machine on a Synology NAS.
My daily driver - a 2020 iMac 5K - has a Drobo 8D disk array and backs up to Thunderbolt drives with a bootable clone, a Time Machine, and a Synology Time Machine. The 8D backs up to the same Synology (50 TB worth) and the iMac's boot drive and 8D back up to a remote BackBlaze (which would still be there if my house burned down).
My other machines - a 2021 MacBook Pro and the family's 2017 iMac 5K just back up to local drives and the NAS as described above as they contain no mission critical data.
Drobo has for the most part gone out of business, so when the 8D fails I'll probably replace it with a 8 Bay locally connected Synology with my main driver connected to the Synology in my office connected to a 10 gb switch, hooked up to one of the LAN ports of my Wifi mesh office satellite. It'll take a while to restore from the family room Synology which is connected to the main router, though I could install a 10 gb ethernet port and bring it upstairs and hook it in to the 10 gb switch to restore much more quickly.
Once both arrays are on Synology NAS, backing up will be much less complicated as I can set up a NAS NAS backup to happen automagically.
When this happens, I'll probably update my Wifi 6 mesh (currently a NetGear Orbi RBK853) to a 953 Wifi 6e mesh which has at least one 2.5 gb LAN port per satellite which will vastly speed up node to node throughput. If I had ethernet wired in my house this would be a better solution, but unfortunately I don't as it's an older house before home networking was a consideration.
My favoirte thing about a NAS is that it's still a "regular" old server. It can do so much more than store data. For instance, my NAS downloads and seeds all my torrents and hosts Pi-Hole on my network. I have many more projects and plans to research as well. I agree with the title. Everyone should have a NAS. :)
12:37 Can you choose your iCloud drive folder as a folder to backup even though the files are in the cloud and not on the computer’s drive?
You failed to mention that Synology Driver Server must be installed on the NAS in order to run the Drive Client.
The immense cost of owning a NAS is never explained properly. You will have the unit and need to pay for all the extra disks, which adds an easy 800 bucks to the price of the NAS making it go to 1500+. But it is true, very true, that in order to be serious about this you will need a beefy unit to hold the data for a content creator.
True, but the hard drives themselves are about $75-$100 each for a 4 TB but you could spend much more depending on the size you use
Hard drives don’t cost much anymore. 😊
Ever looked at the cost of storing 20TB upwards in the cloud? If you have that much data, then it is cheaper to pay the upfront cost as you will get it back in 18 months.
Great Videos! Thank you. Is there a chance to use this as a kind of cloud so I can backup my pictures from my Iphone. Basically to have my own Icloud service? Thank you
I like watching videos by Zollotech :)
Is there a way to backup my iPhone to the NAS automatically?
problem with prefering a nas over a cloud service, is that the initial investment is insane, a nas cost over $500, a few hard drives cost over $100, and if you go with ssd nvme which is what some companies are starting to make (ugreen) can go up to $350 to $400, i pay for both onedrive and icloud and i pay around $160 annually, so, do you really think is worth it?
This is way over priced!
I use the ds220+ but thats enough for my usecase. I dont need to backup a ton of data. I use it for music streaming and backup my photos. A 5 bay nas would be overkill. You hadnt to blur the LAN IP this ip is that nternal noone outside of your LAN can do anything with this IP
thank you for the video. could be an option to use ssd disk to increase performance on a cheaper (slower) Synology nas?
Yes, you can definitely do that
Zollo: "And there's nothing else in the box."
Box foam: "And i took that personally..."
lol
I’ve been considering upgrading my NAS. I think I may after watching this 👏
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Great job zollotech🤲😔
Everyone should have. a. Mad. How. l. Backup. Everything
Good video like all the extra stuff we can use on our apple products. This one is useful but to expensive
Thanks for watching!
@@zollotech thank you! Sir
I’ve been seeing a of videos by creators shilling for Synology the past week. Coincidence?
Not sure, but I genuinely like them, so I have no problem doing a video like this for that. I often turn down opportunities for brands I don’t use or don’t like.
Nas is not a backup
How can I backup iMessages? 😢
What about Time Machine backups? Do you use this? Do you use a different partition?
You could set it up that way, but I do not use time machine
I use a synology box for my home which is being backed up to a synology which replicates itself offsite :D
As always: No Backup! No Mercy!
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how can you make a cloud server with Tmobile home internet, that router doesn't allow me to open port forwarding. and I don't want to use the third channeling stuff software, so I can back up via the cloud.
Hey I didn’t really find something about that online. I would like to have a synology, mainly for backups. I would like to have automatic backups (weekly for example) for all of my devices, wich are MacBook, iPad and iPhone. With Time Machine for the Mac shouldnt be an issue. But is there an easy way to backup the iPhone and iPad via synology???
This NAS seems like complete overkill for a basic dude like myself that just has a laptop he wants to be backed up. Wish you recommended some more simplistic options for those who aren’t dealing with 90TB of data.
Can I connect it with Plesk through ftps to automatically download backups from the dedicated server?
I use cloud storage.
Meaning you store your private files on someone else's computer and hard drive
@@dosdont I don’t have that much Top Secret stuff.
I use Synology also for the past 4 years . Also on their website , they offer Synology Partner Online Training, which is very helpful.
My nas is an old all in one pc from 9 years ago I should probably get a real nas
Great video! I need this in my life!!
I use a raspberrypi as a NAS
This is the best NAS for Mac demonstration I’ve found. Thank you.
Hi, how to create a non sharing folder with password? Thanks
Hi and thanks for this video.
Isn't it possible to have a folder A setup to backup and at the same time have folder A to sync to the NAS?
Thanks
hey @zollotech I'm a big fun of all your videos, does your NAS server supports or use ssd drives cause I see that your using hard drives which is not fast when backing up data.....
yes, it can use SSD's as well
@@zollotech okay thanks 🙏 i guess ssd drive are more expensive than hard drives
These are server hard drives so more expensive than regular hard drives, cost about ~$100~150 each for 4TB, depending on if you buy Seagate Wolf or Western Digital Red server drives that handle vibrations
@@daniellbrinneman yeah yeah right they're server hard drive I was just asking if server ssd drives exists in the market
@@KK-ol5lv Yes.
how badly I wish I had this before… my MacBook suffered from liquid damage so I couldn’t access my Time Machine backup
Everyone should have a JayZ*
Lol
I’ve been stuck between which manufacturer to go with to replace my Buffalo Nas and this video just helped me decide.. thank you..
Thanks for sharing this @Zollotech! I'm sure there are plenty of us who follow your channel that really benefited from this video.
Thx for the info. Also, found out they released a 15.7.3.
Not first
You’re actually first lol
Wow this is the kind of stuff we had early 2000 in my datacenter . Raid 10 offcourse ! Jesus the speed with NVMe in Raid must be insane !
As long as you trust Synology
Of course, why wouldn’t I?
@@zollotech You're asking the wrong question. Why would you?
@@dovan4092 That's absolutely correct, you have to decide whether you trust Synology. Whether you're trusting Synology's software (or hardware) or with the various cloud storage options, people think its some magical secret place. I don't care if it's iCloud or some other cloud option, cloud storage is simply someone else's computer and hard drive.
Is this not a thing from the past?
I backup eather in big SSDs or in the cloud.
No, it is not a thing from the past. Many still use them to have local storage.
RAID with parity? Does this work with Time Machine?
Yes it does
Can NAS backup live photo? I really want to find a good way to store my live photo without breaking it into several files.
Yes it can
@@daniellbrinneman Thanks! I should get one to free my iPhone storage.
Nice and not bad on the pricing either.
Why upgrade to 10Gb if you can only read/write at 736/796 MB/s?
Because 10 Gbit/s is about 1,25 GByte per second
@@flexairz And 796 MB/s is only 0.77734 Gigabyte/Second (GB/s)
Synology and macs finder don’t like each other, however with Windows it works good. It takes to long to load dir contents when you are browsing via smb3 protocol
I haven’t had any issues with it on the Mac and finder
@@zollotech browsing directories on a smb3 mounted NAS on a mac takes a long time (5-10sec) to “load” while doing it on windows machine via smb3 is less than a second. I followed pretty much exact setup as you on a video. I wish I could resolve this as finder freeze up even my local opened directories while loadin. could be network problem but windows is on a same domain. My file transfers from windows to nas are faster than mac to nas. It works but it is annoying so I avoid using synology with my mac other than time machine backup.
What is the monthly cost for the remote access and backup.
Zero
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If it formats itself, aren’t you limited to that OS?
Yes, but it is Linux so there’s no reason really to change it
Total cost with the 10 GB NIC and all (5) Hard Drives?
About $1000. Just depends which hard drives you get
@@zollotech Can not afford that kind of money. It took me several years to save for a mac mini m1.
Wow it useful
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Same here interesting video Aaron
What are the benefits of a NAS over using iCloud?
Local storage that you have full control over
More storage, high resolution, Synology Photos and Drive apps, remote secure access if you want it enabled, buy a 60W+ UPS to run it on, multiple users or separate storage accounts, look at @SpaceRex videos, you pay once for the NAS enclosure and the server drives instead of a monthly payment, look at using SHR-2 instead of RAID configuration which helps when you have a hard drive failure and also enables bonus features
@@zollotech Local storage that you have full control of *using Synology's software*
I'm not buying a silent computer to put this jet next to it.
It’s not loud at all. I show that toward the end of the video.
@@zollotech ok. please make video anout it. and power consumption.
@@nnnnnn3647 I show the actual sound in the video
@@zollotech I mean something more.
Although I respect synology for their reputation and software suite. I couldn't pull the trigger on this NAS, it was too underwhelming for the cost. I went with an asustor, with built in nvme support and at least 2.5 gbe lan upgradeable to 10gbe lan.
Everyone Should have a NAS - How I backup everything. Not everyone has the money to pay that much. We are not all millionaires.
True !!!
You can find a good NAS for 180-190 dollars. It's not so much. You don't need an expensive one
One can have a NAS for less than the cost of the latest iPhone SE 3. People who have iPhone SE 3 phones are not millionaires.
Have a look a truenas core
I’m not a UA-camr and I have one. Its not about having a lot of money it’s planning accordingly. Amazon offers pay over time so paying 30-40 dollars a month seems very affordable to me..
Very useful, any NSA device for a regular home user to backup stuff
Does apple make anything like this?
No, they don’t