How to GUARANTEE your data stays PRIVATE! No more cloud storage, EVER!
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- Опубліковано 28 лют 2024
- Whether you are someone that doesn't have enough time to keep up with backing up your data, or you are concerned about cloud storage and protecting your private data ...or you are a small to medium, growing business that needs to ensure that you will not LOSE business in case of disaster, this video is for you! In this video, I explain what a NAS (network attached storage) server is, what it does, and most importantly, how it can HELP you! I hope you enjoy it :)
Based on my research, here are some varying Synology NAS solutions. If you have questions about which server and/or drive configuration is best for you, please reach out to me and let me help guide you :)
Entry-level/single person/mom & pop shop:
Synology DS223 (2-bay) - amzn.to/3uQ59mQ
1-3 person small business:
Synology DS923+ (4-bay diskless, shown in the video) - amzn.to/3UYt3ab
3-5 person small/medium business:
Synology DS1621+ (6-bay, 24TB storage included) - amzn.to/3wwBNdD
Medium/large business/maximum speed, storage and data protection:
Synology DS1821+ (8-bay diskless) - amzn.to/49VYd6D
Large/many employees/fast-expanding business:
Synology DS3622xs+ (12 bay diskless) - amzn.to/3ThPS7C
Super-basic, off-the-shelf ready to go:
Synology DS224+ server AND (2) 3TB drives included - amzn.to/4309ZKN
Recommended NAS drives: (2 needed for full redundancy)
Synology 4TB ($99) - amzn.to/3wB792Q
Synology 6TB ($173) - amzn.to/3P0iPCB
Synology 8TB ($209) - amzn.to/42V9kKL
Synology 12TB ($279) - amzn.to/49UEoMK
Seagate IronWolf 4TB ($99) - amzn.to/3UZ5L41
Seagate IronWolf 8TB ($181) - amzn.to/48zfu4u
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Hi, I purchased a Synology DS223 along with two 4TB HDDs (thank you) as I'm really only a private user with files on my desktop computer, iPhone and iPad plus multiple security cameras in two separate locations. The cameras are by RING and their annual service fee has risen to A$150 (about US$75), so, with the prospect of an annual fee of A$300 for two subscriptions, A$1,000 for the NAS and HDDs would be paid in 3.3 years. My problem, apart from initial set-up of the system (which I think I've done) is transferring files and setting-up the security app and photos app. 73, Ian
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True story. I built my own NAS server in 2019. All you need is an LSi logic board controller and an open half size to full size pcie slot. Works great too plus there is openNAS software for those who want to get started on making a server. It cost me nothing I got the hard drives and controller card for free. All it took was time and effort. E.G finding the motherboard I wanted to use to build it etc. Great video I like NAS.
Well done building your own! 👍
Where'd you get free drives?
I'd like to know that as well! 👍
@@someuser4166 From a friend simple.
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thank you
I have the very same NAS. I'm a bit of a data hoarder.
I do like to do monthly backups to external HDDs though incase the NAS ever fails.
Thanks!
Thank you, my friend 💪
thanks a lot!
You bet! 👍
Am I the only one to notice how fast he now talks? Why the sense of urgency? That said, this explanation of NAS servers was really interesting.
LOL you're right...I might have had a tad too much coffee that day, plus I was excited to make this video! I'm gonna work on slowing down a bit, and thx for the comment 👍
Thank you for your kind reply. I'm pleased you didn't take offence. Certainly none was intended.@@AskYourComputerGuy
@SpiritintheSky. Not at all. If I'm not improving, I'm running in place. Thx for looking out 👍
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If someone's speed isnt to your liking. I reccomend clicking the cog icon on the video screen & slowing them down.
I personally end up speeding up a lot of people most often.. but this video does not need to speed up 😂
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Thanks very much for this rundown , I will now check my current back up system on different external disc drives where I do have difficulty to find were files are to be found.
Maybe dumb question but do I need to buy a special software back up system to be used with the Synology server, today I have Acronis back up?
Negative. Synology provides all the software for you at no extra cost. Just have to install it which is super easy
Thank you very much. Another point of discussion maybe something to discuss? Over the last 40 years the data media has change. I build my first computer ZX81 1981 and then we used ordinarey magnetic tape recorder for saving the basic programs files. In the 80-90 you had floppy disc for storing data then the mecahnical hard drives came, then it was CD and DVD and now it is none mecahnical like flash drives and SSD, m.2 . I have search for a more stable storage as the flash drives and SSD has a limitied life span and what is more durabla storage and found that it is the M disc that has a life time guarentee and it is a bluray disc with 100 GB. Problem today is that new computer does not have bluray included in the hardware. You need to use them as external drives. Open Question will my family digital photos and videos still be available in the future in 10-50 years from now and what digital media will still be available then?
Best regards Per-Ove
I like the concept. I do wonder however about use of spinning drives as opposed to SSDs? I guess spinning drives are cheap, but are we increasing the risk of obsolescence?
Spindled drives are great for archiving data, SSD are better for speed
I'm a little fuzzy on the backup methods- would you use the 'make disk image' function of Windows 10? Or, does this do file backup only? And, would you need to buy a hard drive to put into the NAS to image the drive installed on the laptop/computer? Or, just use the NAS as an external file storage drive? I don't do major backups or replace hard drive often at all, so I may be asking the question in the wrong terms, sorry.
I would probably create the Windows image, store them on your NAS. The image is basically a snapshot of your computer OS, installed programs, personal files, everything - just stored in one large image file. Yes, you need a hard drive for the NAS, preferably 2 for redundancy, if you went that route. Some NAS servers come with drives, some are diskless. Hope that explains it for you 👍
I've had so many flash drives go through washer and dryer in my jeans. They still work and are cleaner 😁 I'm an IT professional (software engineer / electronic engineer). I would never trust a backup being on flash drive or external drive. I have a NAS drive in my home office... still don't trust that. So have a VPS (virtual private server) in the cloud which the NAS backs up to. You need many points of redundancy. 🙂
1000% yes 💪
Great Video, thanks. I'm a newbie to this technology. I use iCloud for syncing messages and email across all devices. Will I still be able to do that with Synology NAS or do I need to stay iCloud connected.?
Your email access is dependent on internet access, not cloud storage. I assume you're using a web based service like Gmail? Or are you using a paid mail service somewhere? Can't answer your question without more info. But I can say the NAS gives you file access anywhere, across any device, similar to the way you can access your mail across any device. You'd basically be replacing Onedrive for example with your own cloud storage
Why is my reply being deleted?@@AskYourComputerGuy
It's important that If you have a sizable bunch of files on your PC which you want to store on the Synology, you should never just upload them over the network, since this will take all day to do.
Rather, copy the files onto a jump drive, then plug this into the synology console, then log onto the Synology web page and use File Station to copy the files from the jump drive onto the Synology Hard Disk configuration.
Also, if you only use the Synology as a backup for your (say, media files) it's not obvious whether you should just turn on the Synology when you are transferring files or whether it's safe to leave the Synology on all the time and allow it to control the rate at which its hard disks are spinning or not.
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Hi, great video. However, I have a question that is quite important to me: I read that often times Synology sells NAS systems containing HDDs or SSDs that are not up to par or not compatible with a NAS process. Or, generally of low quality. Can you provide an answer, or create a video where you clarify/explain this aspect, please. Particularly what disk brands are the best for this and basically what to purchase in terms of disks, in order to not defeat the purpose of this system with poor quality or uncompatible disks. I understand there is redundancy thru RAID but I think that should be seen as an exception not as a rule in case of disk crash. Thank you.
Excellent question! I personally would only use Synology branded or Seagate IronWolf drives in my NAS. Western Digital is a great brand, but I don't know if their NAS drives are on part with the others.
Thank you@@AskYourComputerGuy . What about those that use SSDs? Also, do you recommend using the Synology website or the Amazon site?
@Vlog... SSD drives will work perfectly in the NAS, depending on budget. HDD is better for long terms archive storage. If the affiliate Amazon link still doesn't work, use the Synology link. It's not about the money. Use the one that works for you 👍
What HDD or SDD do you recommend? It was a chore for me to research and find out that they come with 0 storage and I would need to purchase the NAS Disk Drives separately. What is the max storage (right now) per bay? You mentioned having one bay mirror the other for redundancy... that would cut storage in half but obviously make it much more secure?
I can't recommend a drive yet until I know your (rough) needs. As an example, I have maybe 2 terabytes of client data, and maybe another total 3/4 terabytes of personal data (UA-cam videos, music and movies). I went with 2 8TB drives (and yes, mirroring effectively makes it 1 8TB drive, but my data is safe against drive failure. I have seen Synology NAS drives up to 20TB per drive bay, but since I have two remaining drive bays open, I opted for the smaller 8TB. If you can give me a better idea of your backup needs, I'd be happy to recommend some good drives. Also please note that Synology does make NAS servers with drives included for convenience. If you click on the link in the description, you can also browse through some of Synology's other products, included "loaded" NAS servers. If you prefer to get your own drives, go "diskless". Just so there's no confusion at purchase time 👍
@@AskYourComputerGuy I’ve filled up almost 2 terabytes so far and I’ll only be adding more. I have another UA-cam channel where I do longer tutorials and that burns up the memory. Hours of 4k videos… I’d probably get by with two mirroring 8TB drives for a few years. I may even just go for the synology beestation to get me by for a while till I get more money.
I’m almost due to upgrade my iCloud to the 6TB plan now. At 29.99 it would take less than a year’s time for the beestation to pay for itself.
@Mr.DadJokeADay 👍
What about lighning? Normally that will destroy hardware. I backup with external drive as you did, but take them off the systems when backing up is done. Done that for 25 years. back up 3 places.
I agree on 3 places. For lightning, a UPS connected to the NAS would take care of that issue if it happened
@johnpedersen8387 All my electronic devices (NAS, routers/switches, computers, laptops & TVs) are connected thru a UPS with up to 30 minutes power back up in the event of a power outage & protections.
@TubTechGuru smart 👍
Because this is always connected to your computer, I would assume it is susceptible to ransomware? Even though my OneDrive is susceptible to ransomware because it’s constantly being backed up once a file changes, it does save iterations by date, which isn’t accessible by ransomware.
I don't believe it is, because it's not mapped to your computer, like a flash drive or portable drive is. I'm not 100% on that, but theoretically the only way you can infect the NAS is if you upload an infected file, and even then it would probably have to be executed like in Windows. I welcome any corrections to that statement, I'm just not 100% that I'm correct there. It's not connecting to your computer, it's connecting to your network.
There's one giant problem with Synology. You start out with one, then you need a second one and then a third....I am now on the fifth.
The Synology doesn't come with NAS hard disks. When you buy enough big red NAS hard disks, be sure to install each on your PC first and then run the drive company's full (not quick!) test on each drive. This can take a week to go thru all large drives, but the FULL test will show any problems you might get down the road.
Agreed, with one exception - Synology does include disks in some of their setups, but not all. And I personally think, if you anticipate future needs, buy drives up front that are much bigger than you'd ever think you'd need, because you're probably wrong. Especially if you have a rapidly growing business. But good tips and info for sure, thanks! 👍
So I could "download/put" photos, videos, music on my pc and then on the Synology NAS and I'll be albe to stream/watch or access them from anywhere in the world?
So if I'm on holiday and I would like to show my kids some videos from when I was little, I can take my tablet go to the Synology App and show them the videos?
Correct 👍
One should always encrypt your data stored on the cloud. You can do it on the fly and keep everything private. Cloud storage is the 3rd tier of off-site storage to protect you against fire and theft/natural disasters. You must have vital data to be triple redundant. Your own NAS is not providing that off-site storage backup.
His video looks and sounds ridiculous in 2024 lol harddd drivess with 2 plates lol
Thank you for your "feedback". Please send me a link to your channel - I'd like to see how I could be doing it better :)
@rComputerGuy My advice is not to make promo selling videos that likely to damage your credibility, its simply not worth it. You can do better by not doing any promo that comes your way without honest proper analysis of its content and viability for todays reality.
@@normanwhite2227 FYI Hard Drives are still very good for long term storage. They also are higher capacity for fewer dollars over SSD.
@jdilksjr 100% agreed
Is it possible to combine different size in term of gb discs to have them as back up in one place, or is only need to have same capacity drives to work on?. For example i would like to pack in one place all my older drives and stop swapping all the time on the docking station.
Yes you absolutely can. The same-sixe requirement is for mirroring data and redundancy. But you can absolutely use the NAS as a storage "warehouse"
@@AskYourComputerGuyGreat. One last thing is those Nas devices can have combo of SATA and IDE together?
@JagoJGK1981 yes sir
How's this for a plan? For secure offsite storage use a trusted friend or relative that lives a few miles away.
You share half your NAS with them and they do the same for you. Backup regularly to the remote NAS and they do the same. That should be safe from theft, earthquake, flood, fire and lightning!
I use a Raspberry PI with open media vault NAS software and a 1 TB SSD.
Exactly
Maybe I missed something, but how do you use this as a cloud, remotely, etc.? I always thought NAS was only easily available over the same network?
Negative. I can access my NAS server anywhere in the world that I have internet
@@AskYourComputerGuy Did you cover how to do that? I'll have to watch again. Thank you!
@yerachmielb1 I didn't go into detail about that part because a) it would be difficult to film something off-site when I'm "onsite" and b) if the product interests anyone, they can check out the link to find out more. It was surprisingly simple, and it was my first experiences with a NAS
Ok, nobody is talking about it and maybe it's a long shot, but please can somebody tell me where to get that table which is shown in the beginning? That is what I need. Thank you.
It was a wedding gift to us from some of our friends. Let me check with my wife and I’ll get you the link! It’s absolutely one of my favorite things ever
amzn.to/3TiTXby
Is it possible to connect to these servers via local wireless and/or wired (to your computer) connection?
Absolutely! I am connected wirelessly as we speak. And it's surprisingly faster than I expected.
@@AskYourComputerGuy Is there a way to access your documents and create backups while during a power outage?
So you can access the NAS from anywhere, but doesn't that mean that it needs to be connected to the internet at all times? Not feasible when I travel for 6 months out of the year.
Well, yes it needs to be connected to the internet to be accessible from outside the home
I won't use the cloud for storage -- not for privacy reasons, because theres nothing I do or have that I'm worried about others seeing (except my bank PIN) -- but because of a system outage or crash at their end or a Telco outage at my end. Our ISP was out for 3 (THREE) fkn days once and is often broken for 4-8 hours.
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Furthermore, yeah , it's off topic, but a necessary rant ...
I've tried real hard not to use online programs, eg MYOB, which makes you login, update, double security checks, pay annually, etc, just to check and adjust your OWN business accounts. You can't even buy a standalone desktop version anymore and they've disabled all legacy versions. But ...
... Recently I closed down my business to retire. Told my bookkeeper, my accountant and the MYOB head office to completely delete me from their systems. "Can't do that" they all said. "It's the law".Great, so now all my past financial affairs are up in the cloud for 7+ years. We are OWNED.
IDrive cloud encrypts a customer's data going on to it's servers. So only you, the user, know the contents of your data going on IDrive's servers, using a software pass key. The main advantage to IDrive is offsite storage. If your NAS and computer are destroyed by a catastrophe (e.g. fire, tornado, hurricane, etc.) you would still have your precious data.
Is it free?
@@AskYourComputerGuy Sorry no. But I personally believe it was a good investment for me. It costs me $79.50/ year for 5 TB storage.
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For me, I have two basic worries: to get my devices stolen, in which case it doesn’t matter if it’s a NAS or any other device, and two, burglars accessing the data from the stolen device. So for me I need offsite backup as well as some kind of encryption in at least one device 😢
I would ask why you are almost convinced that your equipment would be stolen? But if another option works better for you...Perhaps you should go that route instead 🤷♂️
So if your office gets robbed and your NAS server gets stolen then your .......ked
All that info is great, but I believe you're forgetting the benefit of off site, (cloud) back up when your residence burns down or gets robbed...
Fair. In those extreme situations, probably not a lot you can do. Keep the NAS drive doors locked, pray the fire department gets there fast. All kinds of AOG circumstances are possible
Wait a minute- at 8:15 you said modem and device. Shouldn't that be router and switch(s)?
Habit. Too many clients over the years just calling it a "modem". But you're not wrong.
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I'm using CCleaner. Will not clean an Internet Explorer File about 500 Mgbs. Every clean it adds other small files. Internet Explorer File this main problem?
windows 10 Pro 22H2
Sounds like it could be. If you're on W10, you should be on Microsoft Edge now. I didn't trust Internet Explorer back in the day, and even less now. If you use it, I'd recommend going into settings and do a reset back to original settings. Could be a plugin, extension or something else similar that is causing the temp file issue
What if your house is destroyed by fire or earthquake? We will always need an off-site storage option to be fully safe 🙂
Fair.
I plan on using two of the DS923+. One will be the main server in the house, installed in my rack. The second one will be installed about 50 feet away from the house in the back yard shed, in a climate controlled housing, and will be connected using Synology's Snapshot Replication technology through a buried Ethernet connection. This will give me off-site protection while still being completely under my control. Since we don't have earthquakes in MN (at least not strong enough to cause any damage), about the only thing I would have to worry about is a localized lightning strike.
@ericlevy3317 that sounds like an amazing plan! Well done! 👍
Question..why is it that these devices still use HDDs while laptops and desktops have moved towards SSDs??
Because HDD is better for reliable archive and backups. SSD is better for speed...but costs a lot more for the same space
@@AskYourComputerGuy aaah i see! thanks for responding!
So you don't have to deal with RAID configurations on your NAS?
Yes, but the raid configurator guides you through it during initial setup
How do you backup your nas?
If you have drive redundancy, you don't need to. But you can backup your NAS to someone else's NAS off-site if desired. Linus Tech Tips did a video recently about how to do this 👍
Currently I back up to external disks, but a second offsite nas is ideal.
Burglar can pick it up and walk off with it. Cant lock it in a safe. Will overheat.
Probably true 🤷♂️
lmao all the time tripping over the usb cable that is hilarious.
Sad but true lol
@@AskYourComputerGuy so do you recommend ssd drives instead of hdd as we all know the hdd are unreliable or are nas better built than regular drives?
Doesn't this thing use the old slow hard drives I hate slow hard drive
you can use any speed HDD or even SSD drives in your NAS :)
Very large storage like 8tb and up in SSD would currently be too expensive.
@farfiman not if you only needed 1 or 2TB. 8TB Is what I'm using, but I probably have 10x to save than what others might 👍
It all sounds great, but AFAIK, the Synology is a Chinese company. So, would you trust and recommend a Chinese company with your personal data? Don't you see think of any data privacy violation knowing that they don't have to abide by the EUDP or US data privacy policies?
And, is there an alternative to Synology that does not have any ties to the CCP? Or, is there at least another open source OS that does the same as the Synology OS, which can be installed on this box and do the same things?
I can not believe you taliking about raid as a backup , it's a mirror in mode, the other modes 0 and 5 are just dangerous , when you say this out loud in the IT world , you're done , i have a 4 bay QNAP nas and 2 other QNAP nasses that act as backup servers, just buy a external drive and make a mirror from time to time and store it way, in the case of a power problem you can have damage to alle the devices , newer ever combine backup drive in the same device it's just bad.
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NAS servers are great for all of the reasons given, but there is a caveat. If you have a fire or a break-in, you have nothing.
That's true. You could still have risks with off-site storage too (natural disasters, Hacks, sabotage, etc). There's inherent risks with any backup method. Only truly safe method is no backup, I suppose 👍
@@AskYourComputerGuy Wow, no need for the sarcasm. How about a combination of the two?
No sarcasm intended. Acts of God are a real thing, as far a fire or break in. The off-site data center could have a flood or earthquake, or an internal security breach. I'm just saying "offsite", while advisable, isn't a 100% better solution. At least in your own home, you can control your circumstances to a degree. Sorry if you took my reply as sarcasm. It wasn't 👍
@@AskYourComputerGuy Apoligies. I have my files backed up on exrternal storage ( not a NAS) and the most critical files, in the cloud, as well.
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Computer Guy, is that you that deletes my comments or UA-cam ?
I don't delete comments, I only block people who have nothing but vitriol to bring to the conversation... . I welcome criticism (I'm far from perfect) but won't tolerate people being ugly just to be ugly. I have ex-wives for that :)
@@AskYourComputerGuyThanks. And my sympathies...
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Way too pricey. I'll stick to my RAID.
This guy is not Linus Tech Tips.
Thank God
@pfitz4881 😂
Don't try to be. I try to explain things that don't go over the average user's head. Linus is great, but he speaks to an audience that already has some tech knowledge. That's not my audience.
@@AskYourComputerGuy .. that is fair.
Use a SSD based external drive. They don;t really die when they fall.
I've got a handful of dead SSD drives that would probably disagree with you 🤷♂️
SSDs die with surges that Hard Drives ignore.
@@jdilksjr Yes, they do. Was just addressing the dropping and killing the drive.