I asked Rode on their Facebook group, about two years ago, why they don’t incorporate a video switcher into their audio unit. They asked me “why would I ever want that?”. The way they put it made my question appear ridiculous. I just posted a link to the Atem products and left it at that. Well here we are, but a bit too late for me.
The ability to change layout/crop/zoom for camera angles on the fly is great and looks intuitive. With the ATEM this is much harder to do. And those audio wireless and XLR in: perfect!
"Not quite. I still believe Blackmagic is leading in this area. The integration between Blackmagic Studio Cameras and other equipment like HyperDecks and Stream Bridge is hard to beat. While the RØDECaster might be more suited for UA-camrs with basic live streaming needs, Blackmagic's solutions cater to more professional requirements. In fact, I use their setup for live broadcasting on a TV news channel-paired with the RØDECaster Pro as my audio mixer, of course. 😅"
@@DavinciresolveAR yeah, this might be the exact situation to tell the difference. BMD for business, Rode for content creators. Even I've already got BMD...This cute thing will definitely be the next work horse for my own.
@@SmartVideoBE Which I'm sure they can include in the future... this said... I'll take a GUI anytime as opposed to an old school XML file... this product is making an ATEM look like a joke!!! get over it!
@@DocFUNKist if they do than im sold, but for 6 hours non stop shooting with 4 camera setups…..im not going back to edit already edited show during the livestream. Those days are long gone for me. ISO recording with xml was a game changer for me… Saves me a whole day of work….so if they ask 2K for it….well pretty reasonable, il buy it, no questions asked!
This looks super useful to simplify my desk :) (ATEM Mini Extreme ISO + Rode ProCaster side by side). I'd miss the feature of remote controlling Blackmagic Cameras (you won't have that issue with the Lumix ones). But.. the layout designer looks much more nicer than the ultra complex Blackmagic ones! And the video player without any additional sources... As you said, they took tons of effort to design something quite unique and exciting!
I've had an ATEM Mini Extreme on my wish list for a while, primarily for the SuperSource. Swapping four of those HDMIs for a built in audio interface, assuming the latency isn't too bad, is absolutely a trade off I'd be very happy to make. The fewer boxes I need to put in my flight case, the happier I am.
Can’t wait to get this! Would you please do a setup/tutorial on connecting the Duo to the RCVideo and show a sample? Thank you for the walkthrough review.
Great video. I must have missed the one main feature that is a killer for me and I am most likely going to send it back and go back to using the Atem ISO. NO ISO VIDEO ABOVE 30fps. I shoot everything including multi camera shoots in 60fps.
Amazing Aaron. I cant wait to get this and add it to my Rodecaster Duo. The ATem was begining to bore me deeply. I got rid of both my atem mini extreme ISO and Atem Mini Pro for the Atomos XCast. I knew someone would blow Blackmagic out of the water, and my goodness, RODE has not disappointed at all.. Thank you for the review... What are your thoughts in general comparison to the Atem and XCast..?
Lovely quick little overview, Aaron. What is your opinion about the price point in comparison to the BMD switchers? Are the features in here worth the bigger price tag?
Nope they didn't get any input into any of the videos I made. I also filmed this before any of the other videos were out, so I hadn't seen anyone else's yet either. Maybe the other reviews came to the same conclusion as me!
This is all very nice Aaron. But no one shows the final result. There are shots of the device from all sides and views of the management program... but the result? Is it really that shocking? It would be nice to have 10 minutes of production of an event with on one side the management and on the other side the result. Thanks!
No I wouldn't use it for that, there is definitely some latency in the video processing, you can kind of tell in the livestream I just did if you look at the monitor on my desk vs the monitors in the background
They understood the assignment, a hardware OBS. This is a version one, so we can see where this is going, and it sounds mad. For now, I'll stick to my stream deck+/obs , it delivers incredibly good for the total cost and versatility it does offer.
Dear We have small studio for company internal Live Show with a host, guest and participants. Currently we use Sony DSLR fixed at certain locations. We want to buy one or two cameras with power zoom and focus capabilities to catch good shots, especially the audience and the host when he moves around the studio. We were considering Camcorder, PTZ, or BMD with servo lens. And connect that to zoom and focus controller. We got lost with choices, please what would you recommend for us? Thanks a lot
Compositing seems so much easier than on the ATEMs. Audio mixing is also looking way better! Pairing rode's wireless products! It really looks great. Autoswitching! I am super happy with the ATEM Mini Extreme Pro ISO, but this thing looks comparable and better in a lot of ways. Is there any way to bring the switching history into a NLE like final cut or premiere for post-production after the stream?
Compositing is absolutely easier with this than the ATEMs! Right now there's no extra switching history file created, but I wouldn't be surprised if they add that in a firmware update in the near future!
Yeah! You can assign multiple audio channels to a video angle and it will take that into account. You can also change the priority of each angle. I'll try to do some more demos of this with actual content soon.
The "Auto-switching" feature is a bit misleading as the more commonly used Video Follows MIc terminology is a more transparent term. Regardless, can a "scene" be created with Rodecaster Video to perform rotating switches between cameras with the ability to set time spans for each camera angle? Can this unit perform "mix" transitions between camera switches?
Not sure why you say "auto-switching" is misleading. I find the terms "audio follows video" and "video follows audio" more difficult to understand. Yes it can do mix transitions. No there is no timed auto switching, only voice activated.
Might be a silly question but hoping the original rodecaster pro works with it? Doesn’t need to be the 2 right? I’m doing my absolute best to find reasons why this isn’t already being shipped to me ha ha. My Blackmagic iso extreme was great but adding my webcam, and easy switching and scenes without macros is a game changer. Wondering now about pulling in videos into a live feed because that was a complete mess with Blackmagic source files …
It should, it can accept any USB audio interface. Unfortunately I don't have the original RØDECaster to test but I'll see if Tom Buck can confirm that once he's back. I was able to upload video clips pretty easily, it accepted all the h264 encoded mp4 files I threw at it.
If you are using both XLR inputs can you also have a wireless rode paired? On the Duo if you use both XLR inputs you can't also have a wireless Rode paired?
Could Rode integrate the video functionalities of the Rodecaster video into the Rodecaster Pro 2 in the next product? That would make for a killer all-in-one device, combining both video and audio capabilities. Otherwise I wouldn’t bother buying this one.
The RØDECaster Video does have basically an entire RØDECaster Duo inside, and you can even connect more mics than the duo supports. It's just missing the physical faders of the Duo.
@@aaronpk How many mics ? Isn’t only 2 mic inputs ? Its design doesn’t impress me-without audio faders to directly control mic input signals, having to navigate through multiple menu layers is time-consuming and, frankly, quite frustrating.
2 wired mics, plus 2 wireless. The Duo can only support 2 mics. I agree about the faders, I hope they can make a small control surface for it to give us faders! I talked about that and some other gaps here: The three MISSING features of the RØDECaster Video ua-cam.com/video/C33DRXpYYTs/v-deo.html
no, just RØDE mics. You could of course use any other wireless mic with that mic's receiver, so like the DJI mic receiver into the USB audio port of this device. But the built in receivers are just for RØDE mics
Right now there's nothing built in for iPhone support, but there are lots of ways of using iPhones as cameras with any switcher. Check out this video about using iPhones with the ATEM Mini, basically everything applies here too ua-cam.com/video/k_WnffXIZQg/v-deo.html
@@aaronpk Hey Aaron! What would you say is the most optimum camera connection for the iphone 15 pro max to the RODEcaster Video? I'm weighing the Camlink or Apple TV.
They're very different devices, check out the live demo I did of the RGBLink to get a sense of how they are different ua-cam.com/users/livebiDeaE1oHM8?si=oMmWp1ibv0_07zuR
What is output resolution. After 2k pixel we use multi-display management program such as watchout. But ıf ı can use this switcher for video mapping on smaller displays ıt would be a huge cost friendly for me. To be honset 1,2k USD is expensive for a switcher. Even so If the switcher is capable to run on like 7x4 led displays with 2,9 mm pixel with ıt would be huge.
@@UmarSear oh the other big thing that isn't in the GoStream is ISO recording. So considering the ATEM Mini was $300 and ATEM Mini ISO was $600 at launch, imagine the GoStream does eventually launch an ISO version I would expect it to also be $500-600. Then you'll need an external audio mixer still, and this is basically like having a RØDECaster Duo inside, which is $400. So a GoStream ISO plus RØDECaster Duo would be similar to this, still with some practical differences, but you'd have to decide whether those differences are worth the extra $200 or so.
Very nice Aaron, the 20 minute video from RØDE is very comprehensive ua-cam.com/video/Ssa0ZaogT08/v-deo.html and with the ISO feature being my main concern, that's now allayed. Cheers
The multi-layer scenes are definitely low frame rate, and the single camera angles are somewhat faster but not realtime. It took me a minute to get used to it but it's fine.
There's a fundamental difference between something like a stream deck and a video switcher like this. The stream deck is just buttons that controls software in the computer. This doesn't rely on a computer at all, and does all the video processing internally. Sorry if that wasn't clear from the video.
@@aaronpk once again, it’s a glorified streamdeck, only thing is rode made it and sold it for $1200. Does the same thing, I can switch videos too on the streamdeck just as I could on that 😂🤷🏻♂️
Again, a stream deck does not do any video processing, you can't plug in cameras into a stream deck. It's just controlling a computer which is doing the video processing.
Thanks Aaron! Your coverage here is exactly what I needed. 👍
You have shown more in 8 minutes than the 1h B&H live broadcast. Kudos!
I asked Rode on their Facebook group, about two years ago, why they don’t incorporate a video switcher into their audio unit. They asked me “why would I ever want that?”. The way they put it made my question appear ridiculous. I just posted a link to the Atem products and left it at that. Well here we are, but a bit too late for me.
Great video once again Aaron, thank you!
The ability to change layout/crop/zoom for camera angles on the fly is great and looks intuitive. With the ATEM this is much harder to do. And those audio wireless and XLR in: perfect!
Blackmagic needs to wake up, competition is here. First Osee, now Rode
the future is bright, hopefully we get a atem extreme iso 4k now aha
@@certainlyjoel they do export to 4K if you’re not streaming from the atem.
@@certainlyjoel Yeah, but, most of the streaming platforms doesn't support 4K streaming
"Not quite. I still believe Blackmagic is leading in this area. The integration between Blackmagic Studio Cameras and other equipment like HyperDecks and Stream Bridge is hard to beat. While the RØDECaster might be more suited for UA-camrs with basic live streaming needs, Blackmagic's solutions cater to more professional requirements. In fact, I use their setup for live broadcasting on a TV news channel-paired with the RØDECaster Pro as my audio mixer, of course. 😅"
@@DavinciresolveAR yeah, this might be the exact situation to tell the difference. BMD for business, Rode for content creators. Even I've already got BMD...This cute thing will definitely be the next work horse for my own.
What an impressive piece of equipment… it certainly outperforms the ATEM by a significant margin.
Wrong…. no xml im out.
@@SmartVideoBE Which I'm sure they can include in the future... this said... I'll take a GUI anytime as opposed to an old school XML file... this product is making an ATEM look like a joke!!! get over it!
@@DocFUNKist if they do than im sold, but for 6 hours non stop shooting with 4 camera setups…..im not going back to edit already edited show during the livestream. Those days are long gone for me. ISO recording with xml was a game changer for me… Saves me a whole day of work….so if they ask 2K for it….well pretty reasonable, il buy it, no questions asked!
@@SmartVideoBE well have to wait and see but this is clearly a very well thought product.
Yes, but it's also significantly more expensive than the Atem mini pro ISO
6:20 mix minus is the bomb! This is killer!
It's the most underrated invisible feature that nobody will know they need but is absolutely essential!
@@aaronpk This is huge indeed! Usually we need a a mixing panel with audio matrix.
Audio Output with its individual mix is huge for my small hybrid event production.
This looks super useful to simplify my desk :) (ATEM Mini Extreme ISO + Rode ProCaster side by side). I'd miss the feature of remote controlling Blackmagic Cameras (you won't have that issue with the Lumix ones).
But.. the layout designer looks much more nicer than the ultra complex Blackmagic ones! And the video player without any additional sources...
As you said, they took tons of effort to design something quite unique and exciting!
This will simplify so much for students!!! Thanks!
I've had an ATEM Mini Extreme on my wish list for a while, primarily for the SuperSource. Swapping four of those HDMIs for a built in audio interface, assuming the latency isn't too bad, is absolutely a trade off I'd be very happy to make. The fewer boxes I need to put in my flight case, the happier I am.
Can’t wait to get this! Would you please do a setup/tutorial on connecting the Duo to the RCVideo and show a sample? Thank you for the walkthrough review.
Superb overview
I like the audio function. I will be able to replace my 2i2
Great video. I must have missed the one main feature that is a killer for me and I am most likely going to send it back and go back to using the Atem ISO. NO ISO VIDEO ABOVE 30fps. I shoot everything including multi camera shoots in 60fps.
Amazing Aaron. I cant wait to get this and add it to my Rodecaster Duo. The ATem was begining to bore me deeply. I got rid of both my atem mini extreme ISO and Atem Mini Pro for the Atomos XCast. I knew someone would blow Blackmagic out of the water, and my goodness, RODE has not disappointed at all.. Thank you for the review... What are your thoughts in general comparison to the Atem and XCast..?
Lovely quick little overview, Aaron. What is your opinion about the price point in comparison to the BMD switchers? Are the features in here worth the bigger price tag?
Great rundown, Aaron. Answered a number of the questions I had about it. Can it pair with the first gen Rodecaster Pro or only the II?
I don't have the original to test, but it should support any USB audio device!
This looks very interesting. I have a ton of questions about it. I wish my schedule aligned to watch live.
Feel free to ask your questions in the comments here, or join me live on Sunday! ua-cam.com/video/naICMaeTxnk/v-deo.html
Did rode script this for you?
It’s literally almost word for word the same as the other reviews
Nope they didn't get any input into any of the videos I made. I also filmed this before any of the other videos were out, so I hadn't seen anyone else's yet either. Maybe the other reviews came to the same conclusion as me!
This is all very nice Aaron. But no one shows the final result. There are shots of the device from all sides and views of the management program... but the result? Is it really that shocking? It would be nice to have 10 minutes of production of an event with on one side the management and on the other side the result. Thanks!
can you connect iphones as camera sources? either wirelessly or via USB C?
Hi. How is the latency? Can it be used for IMAG and live events?
No I wouldn't use it for that, there is definitely some latency in the video processing, you can kind of tell in the livestream I just did if you look at the monitor on my desk vs the monitors in the background
@@aaronpk The background looks like about 1 second delay? Is it really that long?
Does it have wireless headphone capabilities for air pods? Also when using the auto switching mode can you still ad something manually?
They understood the assignment, a hardware OBS. This is a version one, so we can see where this is going, and it sounds mad. For now, I'll stick to my stream deck+/obs , it delivers incredibly good for the total cost and versatility it does offer.
Do you have to hot punch everything? Or can you preview before you take your shot.
Yeah you can switch it into program/preview mode if you want to. That also lets you build the scenes in the preview window without taking them live.
Dear
We have small studio for company internal Live Show with a host, guest and participants. Currently we use Sony DSLR fixed at certain locations.
We want to buy one or two cameras with power zoom and focus capabilities to catch good shots, especially the audience and the host when he moves around the studio.
We were considering Camcorder, PTZ, or BMD with servo lens. And connect that to zoom and focus controller. We got lost with choices, please what would you recommend for us?
Thanks a lot
Does the auto cam switching have sensitivity options, or delays? Like, to make a smooth cut, not bouncing back and forth
There's just the "priority" setting per camera, but they definitely have thought through this and it doesn't do quick cuts.
mix minus 👏👏👏👏👏 Yes !
Can the usb webcam inputs receive another switchers feed through something like a CamLink or other usb video capture card? Thanks for the review
This device looks very tall. Is the specified 614 millimeters the actual full height? Or do the buttons extend beyond that measurement?
The top of the case is at 500mm, 614 is the measurement to the top of the rotating knob
Compositing seems so much easier than on the ATEMs. Audio mixing is also looking way better! Pairing rode's wireless products! It really looks great. Autoswitching! I am super happy with the ATEM Mini Extreme Pro ISO, but this thing looks comparable and better in a lot of ways. Is there any way to bring the switching history into a NLE like final cut or premiere for post-production after the stream?
Compositing is absolutely easier with this than the ATEMs! Right now there's no extra switching history file created, but I wouldn't be surprised if they add that in a firmware update in the near future!
@@aaronpk you rock, keep it coming!
Hi! How about when both talk at the same time? Can that be configured to be let’s say the third cam? The central cam?
Yeah! You can assign multiple audio channels to a video angle and it will take that into account. You can also change the priority of each angle. I'll try to do some more demos of this with actual content soon.
The "Auto-switching" feature is a bit misleading as the more commonly used Video Follows MIc terminology is a more transparent term. Regardless, can a "scene" be created with Rodecaster Video to perform rotating switches between cameras with the ability to set time spans for each camera angle? Can this unit perform "mix" transitions between camera switches?
Not sure why you say "auto-switching" is misleading. I find the terms "audio follows video" and "video follows audio" more difficult to understand.
Yes it can do mix transitions. No there is no timed auto switching, only voice activated.
What is the bitrate of mp4 file? Is it same in ISO too? Only XML in ISO is missing with cuts. Hopefully it can be added through the software upgrade.
Still doesn’t beat the yolo box capabilities
Might be a silly question but hoping the original rodecaster pro works with it? Doesn’t need to be the 2 right? I’m doing my absolute best to find reasons why this isn’t already being shipped to me ha ha. My Blackmagic iso extreme was great but adding my webcam, and easy switching and scenes without macros is a game changer. Wondering now about pulling in videos into a live feed because that was a complete mess with Blackmagic source files …
It should, it can accept any USB audio interface. Unfortunately I don't have the original RØDECaster to test but I'll see if Tom Buck can confirm that once he's back.
I was able to upload video clips pretty easily, it accepted all the h264 encoded mp4 files I threw at it.
@@aaronpk awesome thanks Aaron. Btw love your vids.
If you are using both XLR inputs can you also have a wireless rode paired? On the Duo if you use both XLR inputs you can't also have a wireless Rode paired?
ATEM should be very scared! This is a ATEM mini killer!
Could Rode integrate the video functionalities of the Rodecaster video into the Rodecaster Pro 2 in the next product? That would make for a killer all-in-one device, combining both video and audio capabilities. Otherwise I wouldn’t bother buying this one.
The RØDECaster Video does have basically an entire RØDECaster Duo inside, and you can even connect more mics than the duo supports. It's just missing the physical faders of the Duo.
@@aaronpk How many mics ? Isn’t only 2 mic inputs ? Its design doesn’t impress me-without audio faders to directly control mic input signals, having to navigate through multiple menu layers is time-consuming and, frankly, quite frustrating.
2 wired mics, plus 2 wireless. The Duo can only support 2 mics. I agree about the faders, I hope they can make a small control surface for it to give us faders! I talked about that and some other gaps here: The three MISSING features of the RØDECaster Video
ua-cam.com/video/C33DRXpYYTs/v-deo.html
@@aaronpk Thanks a lot for your response. I hope Rode is paying attention to feedback like this to help improve the product.
Can you connect other wireless mics? Say DJI or Hollyland
no, just RØDE mics. You could of course use any other wireless mic with that mic's receiver, so like the DJI mic receiver into the USB audio port of this device. But the built in receivers are just for RØDE mics
Can an iphone be used for a camera on the RODECaster Video, especially multi phones?
Right now there's nothing built in for iPhone support, but there are lots of ways of using iPhones as cameras with any switcher. Check out this video about using iPhones with the ATEM Mini, basically everything applies here too ua-cam.com/video/k_WnffXIZQg/v-deo.html
@@aaronpk Thanks! You put a lot of research into getting a smartphone to work as a camera in a switcher. I'm reviewing your video.
@@aaronpk Hey Aaron! What would you say is the most optimum camera connection for the iphone 15 pro max to the RODEcaster Video? I'm weighing the Camlink or Apple TV.
What is the difference between this and an RGBlink Mini-Edge?
They're very different devices, check out the live demo I did of the RGBLink to get a sense of how they are different ua-cam.com/users/livebiDeaE1oHM8?si=oMmWp1ibv0_07zuR
Audio follow video feature
OMG 😳 instead of an Atem Extreme + Wirecast duo, I can do everything with this alone 😮 (I just need easy streaming)
Q: Does the Rodecaster Video export the Mixed Video as a XML file VIA USB which linked to the ISO recorded files
Not at the moment, but I suspect we will see that in a firmware update in the future.
@@aaronpk i hope they add it in firmware update, cause that's a deal breaker for me.. thanks for quick reply
I wonder i can use auto cut with a remote guest ?
Sure you can, just depends on how you are able to bring in the remote guest. I'll try to do a video about that soon
Cool features but a little bit expensive for me. :( It is much over my budget
What is output resolution. After 2k pixel we use multi-display management program such as watchout. But ıf ı can use this switcher for video mapping on smaller displays ıt would be a huge cost friendly for me. To be honset 1,2k USD is expensive for a switcher. Even so If the switcher is capable to run on like 7x4 led displays with 2,9 mm pixel with ıt would be huge.
It's all 1920x1080
@@aaronpk Thanks
is chroma and luma keying suported?
Chroma keying is supported now. I don't see a Luma key option yet.
Buttons layout is sooooo strange. I am sure they can use rodecaster 2 case and it will fit perfect.
we need now BM ATEM(s) vs RØDE
My bank manager hates you, and Rode. 😊Is there a network API so that someone can write a Companion module for it?
What am I really missing as a GoStream user? ... anything?
The built in audio mixer is the major difference
@@aaronpk That can't be worth the extra $900 can it?
@@UmarSear oh the other big thing that isn't in the GoStream is ISO recording. So considering the ATEM Mini was $300 and ATEM Mini ISO was $600 at launch, imagine the GoStream does eventually launch an ISO version I would expect it to also be $500-600. Then you'll need an external audio mixer still, and this is basically like having a RØDECaster Duo inside, which is $400. So a GoStream ISO plus RØDECaster Duo would be similar to this, still with some practical differences, but you'd have to decide whether those differences are worth the extra $200 or so.
これでNDIをサポートしていたら完璧なのに。
No 4k either
Very nice Aaron, the 20 minute video from RØDE is very comprehensive ua-cam.com/video/Ssa0ZaogT08/v-deo.html and with the ISO feature being my main concern, that's now allayed. Cheers
Is it just my eyes? The MV looks choppy.
The multi-layer scenes are definitely low frame rate, and the single camera angles are somewhat faster but not realtime. It took me a minute to get used to it but it's fine.
Glorified streamdeck 😂
tell me you didn't watch the video without telling me you didn't watch the video
@@aaronpk I watched the entire video 😂
There's a fundamental difference between something like a stream deck and a video switcher like this. The stream deck is just buttons that controls software in the computer. This doesn't rely on a computer at all, and does all the video processing internally. Sorry if that wasn't clear from the video.
@@aaronpk once again, it’s a glorified streamdeck, only thing is rode made it and sold it for $1200. Does the same thing, I can switch videos too on the streamdeck just as I could on that 😂🤷🏻♂️
Again, a stream deck does not do any video processing, you can't plug in cameras into a stream deck. It's just controlling a computer which is doing the video processing.
$1200 is a rip off for this 😂