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  • The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo is an exciting thriller about an unlikely pair of misfits trying to solve a forty-year-old crime, but it’s also interesting from a structural perspective. It uses a non-conventional, five-act structure. This video breaks down the anatomy of an act, to examine how the film breaks the rules while following them at the same time.
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  • @LessonsfromtheScreenplay
    @LessonsfromtheScreenplay  6 років тому +1072

    The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo is one of my favorite Fincher films, up there with Se7en. Do you have a favorite Fincher film? If so, which one?

    • @jeffanderson9938
      @jeffanderson9938 6 років тому +59

      The Social Network. 2nd place would be Se7en.

    • @charlie172011
      @charlie172011 6 років тому +70

      Gotta be Fight Club

    • @azzyclark3860
      @azzyclark3860 6 років тому +3

      Lessons from the Screenplay need to see this film. only Fincher film I have not seen. how does it rate compared to the rest of his filmography?

    • @battleupsaber462
      @battleupsaber462 6 років тому +14

      Lessons from the Screenplay Hey, your Moonrise Kingdom video seems to be blocked worldwide. Anything you can do about that?
      Anyway, my favourite Fincher movies are Fight Club and Gone Girl. Seven and Social Network are really good too, and Curious Case of Benjamin Button is IMO incredibly underrated.

    • @charlie172011
      @charlie172011 6 років тому +20

      I'd say: #1 Fight Club / #2 Se7en / #3 The Social Network / #4 The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo

  • @xtcfucker
    @xtcfucker 6 років тому +1780

    Canceling this trilogy was one of the greatest crimes in modern cinema history.

    • @greyLeicester
      @greyLeicester 3 роки тому +55

      And Mindhunter! Fincher really likes to leave projects unfinished

    • @theawantikamishra
      @theawantikamishra 3 роки тому +15

      @@greyLeicester As much as I know , mindhunter got cancelled because of lesss view

    • @mariam-ft9sx
      @mariam-ft9sx 2 роки тому +23

      I couldn’t agree more! I absolutely loved the books (the first 3 primarily) and I think the trilogy could have been amazing.

    • @johndagpin3001
      @johndagpin3001 2 роки тому +3

      they fukcing change actors

    • @felipebizarre
      @felipebizarre 2 роки тому +2

      Exactly

  • @frods1234
    @frods1234 6 років тому +2375

    I’m still not over the fact that this trilogy didn’t happen.

    • @LessonsfromtheScreenplay
      @LessonsfromtheScreenplay  6 років тому +182

      Me too, clearly.

    • @jacobthron1870
      @jacobthron1870 6 років тому +57

      You can see the original trilogy, It's call Mænd der hader kvinder. And is amazing, it's in sweden so try to maybe find eng sub. But worth a shot if you want closure.

    • @levischorpioen
      @levischorpioen 6 років тому +52

      I mean, that's the Danish title, yeah. The original Swedish title is Män som hatar kvinnor, or just the Millennium trilogy. It's a masterpiece and vastly superior over what this film is trying to do.

    • @LemonCurry.
      @LemonCurry. 6 років тому +36

      nah, glad it didn't happen. The original Millenium Trilogy in Swedish cannot be excelled, even not from master Fincher himself :)

    • @leilanilee6678
      @leilanilee6678 6 років тому +104

      Totally disagree, Fincher's was soooo much better. The production value alone far exceeds the Swedish version and his casting was perfect. Much more like the characters in the brilliant books.

  • @Steef_Lee
    @Steef_Lee 3 роки тому +341

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Fincher not getting to complete this trilogy is a crime against film and a crime against humanity.

    • @vladimirhorowitz
      @vladimirhorowitz 8 місяців тому +2

      That last part is a little extreme but yes I'll definitely agree with that first part. Incredibly disappointing and sad.

  • @xsanctom
    @xsanctom 6 років тому +1599

    Rooney Mara's performance in this is so incredibly good.

    • @zaddkiel4458
      @zaddkiel4458 5 років тому +17

      Did you see the swedish original version? because clearly Noomi Rapace was way better!

    • @MsTriangle
      @MsTriangle 5 років тому +60

      @@jp8239 Salander was never an angry butch like Rapace, Rooney really nailed every single aspect of that performance.

    • @AllThingsFilm1
      @AllThingsFilm1 4 роки тому +7

      @@jp8239 Accuracy has nothing to do with performance. Rapace blew Rooney out of the water.

    • @AllThingsFilm1
      @AllThingsFilm1 4 роки тому +6

      @@MsTriangle Sorry, the Rooney version was a snoozefest. For a character that is raped, I find it hard to believe there wouldn't be anger on some level.

    • @juliacosta7003
      @juliacosta7003 4 роки тому +25

      Al Addin Never. I like Noomi a looot, but this role was made for Rooney

  • @rexlongfellow
    @rexlongfellow 6 років тому +2163

    He reaaalllly should've got to make his trilogy. A very-well crafted film.

    • @LessonsfromtheScreenplay
      @LessonsfromtheScreenplay  6 років тому +70

      Agreed!

    • @TheFPSFanatic
      @TheFPSFanatic 6 років тому +51

      Too bad it's all business and movies are not free to make. Well unless great directors or writers start using crowd funding for their movies...

    • @eggetcool
      @eggetcool 6 років тому +43

      You could watch the swedish versions, they are really good too! The series is called "The Millenium Trilogy" :)

    • @CybershamanX
      @CybershamanX 6 років тому +27

      +Lessons from the Screenplay My wife and I tried to watch the Fincher version after having watched the original 2009 Swedish film a year earlier. Sadly, we turned it off a little over halfway into it because it just felt so...I guess, "flat" would be the best word? It felt like many of the scenes were forced somehow. If you ever get the chance, give the original a watch. It's really that awesome. :) The woman who plays Lisbeth is perfect. I can see why they wanted to remake it for American audiences. But, I remember the Fincher version being touted as being "shocking" or something along those lines. Compared to the original, it's a snoozefest. You want shock, check out the 2009 film sometime. It would be interesting to hear your thoughts. :)

    • @CybershamanX
      @CybershamanX 6 років тому +2

      PS: I'm not saying the original is good just for shock value. It gets high marks on all of its aspects. :)

  • @salomesavaje4335
    @salomesavaje4335 3 роки тому +80

    Spoiler: in the beginning of the story, the killer is revealed when mikeal has dinner with henry and some other lady. When the wind blows, mikeal and the lady look in the same direction but henry looks in a different direction. A scream can be heard as it is disguised by the wind blowing. Henry then gets up and goes in the opposite direction of where the others heard the wind.

  • @paulafer485
    @paulafer485 6 років тому +65

    One of my (many) favorite moments in this film is when Mikael asks Lisbeth to help him:
    "I want you to help me catch a killer of women"
    and that look on her face, there is nothing she would like more. So well acted.
    Im stiff in awe of the acting talent Rooney Mara has displayed in the last few years.

  • @sophiagrace2671
    @sophiagrace2671 6 років тому +497

    6 years!?!? Wow. This movie impacted me a lot. I immediately read the books and watched the swedish version. Very compelling story. I wish they would make the other two with Rooney Mara.

    • @biutify
      @biutify 6 років тому +6

      right?
      *SPOILER*
      after i've finished the book, i never looked at Bjurman the same way again...
      and in this movie, when Lisbeth (Mara's character) told Blomkvist that she was the ward of the state because she tried to burn her father alive, it didn't make much sense to me at first. but now.. woah...
      this could be a very compelling trilogy if Fincher were to take helm. but sadly...
      ps. still not a fan that they've changed how Blomkvist discovered Hariet towards the end of the movie

    • @ashandwit
      @ashandwit 4 роки тому +11

      YES, Rooney and Craig had chemistry... would have been a favorite trilogy.

    • @maxbarker8625
      @maxbarker8625 2 роки тому +1

      It's too late now tho

    • @somebody-br2hm
      @somebody-br2hm Рік тому

      Which version do you like best , the american or the swedish?

  • @xingcat
    @xingcat 6 років тому +480

    Fun fact! The company I used to work with had the Swarovski family as clients. The detail about the whole rich family all living in the same city, spying on each other and not moving elsewhere because they didn't trust one another is basically that family totally. Rich people can be very strange.

    • @LessonsfromtheScreenplay
      @LessonsfromtheScreenplay  6 років тому +30

      Fascinating!

    • @alexarias5717
      @alexarias5717 6 років тому +5

      xingcat half the family members in the film's rich ass family were Nazis so they're bound to be much more twisted lol

    • @BlueisNotaWarmColour
      @BlueisNotaWarmColour 5 років тому

      Mo money...

    • @ipsnagi9442
      @ipsnagi9442 5 років тому +7

      I have a theory about this: When it comes to money, fame, status, etc. I think it grows to dominate the lives of the people that are surrounded by it and everything else fades, most often it is trust in others. Money/fame/status starts to take over the identity of these people who do not have likes and hobbies but excessive indulgences to keep up their level of status and such. For example, they would buy expensive paintings not knowing the first thing about art but just so they can brag about the value/rarity of it. Human beings are a strange bunch... I wish I was an alien tasked with psychiatric evaluations of us preferably with a 1000 year lifespan 'cause this shit's gonna take some time!
      About the movie though, I did not know this was going to be a trilogy... kinda bummed out now that we're not gonna get it. I don't really understand the popularity of the Marvel films because even if I turn my brain off, so to speak, and just consume these things as a product, I don't get much enjoyment out of them. Some good ones, sure, I'll enjoy them on the first watch but on repeated viewings they just become noise (a couple of exceptions I've found are Homecoming and Ragnarok because the comedy in them is just too fun). Even the critically acclaimed Infinity war was hard to watch a second time for me...

    • @smilingbandit6900
      @smilingbandit6900 4 роки тому

      nah rich people are excentric^^

  • @The_RedVIII
    @The_RedVIII 6 років тому +235

    My favorite Fincher movie and totally underrated. It still breaks my heart that we won't get a sequel to this version of Dragon Tattoo.

    • @LessonsfromtheScreenplay
      @LessonsfromtheScreenplay  6 років тому +7

      🙌

    • @tspsproduction3727
      @tspsproduction3727 6 років тому +1

      There is going to be a part 2 but it won't have the original cast members in it.

    • @elmojedburgh3481
      @elmojedburgh3481 6 років тому

      RedVIII I agree with you my friend .

    • @elmojedburgh3481
      @elmojedburgh3481 6 років тому

      kobretti88 I Agree With You.

    • @PlaceboPictures
      @PlaceboPictures 6 років тому +1

      TR_ 236 The entire trilogy was made in Sweden with Noomi Rapace playing Lisbeth. They’re fantastic films.

  • @elcucui2933
    @elcucui2933 3 роки тому +83

    This is one of the best films I've seen. It's too bad the trilogy was not pursued and completed.

  • @kierlingbrod
    @kierlingbrod 6 років тому +315

    You might just be one of the most consistently great creators on youtube I know. Love this.

  • @Zachary_Sweis
    @Zachary_Sweis 6 років тому +655

    I think this is the most important video you've made so far.

    • @pedrohp3
      @pedrohp3 6 років тому

      Zachary S I totally agree.

  • @patrickbateman556
    @patrickbateman556 6 років тому +248

    I love this film, and still want to see the continuation with David Fincher and not a remake.

    • @AllThingsFilm1
      @AllThingsFilm1 4 роки тому

      What are you talking about? The Fincher version is a remake.

  • @opedromagico
    @opedromagico 3 роки тому +92

    2:04 - Loved that editing choice! They come in bars, play and pause, then crossfade.. beautiful, beeeautiful. Gonna use that on a project someday x) tks for the inspiration!

  • @A-G-A-G
    @A-G-A-G 3 роки тому +34

    It’s a crime that we never got the rest of the fincher millennium trilogy

  • @luckyowl10
    @luckyowl10 6 років тому +625

    I had no idea this movie should have been a trilogy, it's so well made that I was shocked, surprised and impressed in the same time at the beginning. It felt very odd and interesting, but I had no idea why. More movies should be made like this, I would pay to see a sequel to the Girl with the Dragon Tattoo. Great great great video, man, now I understood the idea of the movie, which is too complex to the average person, but entertaining.

    • @indravargas1388
      @indravargas1388 6 років тому +17

      Claudiu Lucian The girl with the dragon tattoo is the first part of a trilogy of books called Millenium. If you get the chance to read them please do, the books are beyond excellent but they're not the easiest to read tbh.

    • @TheManwithafan
      @TheManwithafan 6 років тому +20

      There's a sequel coming out this year. Not made by Fincher tho, and recasting every single person in the film. Quite disappointing.

    • @MrGrabich
      @MrGrabich 6 років тому +40

      You can check the Swedish version which is a released trilogy staring Noomi Rapace and Michael Nyqvist. Personally, I think it's even better than the American one.

    • @luckyowl10
      @luckyowl10 6 років тому +1

      Indra Vargas I will try reading the books, you made me curious.

    • @TheMogul23
      @TheMogul23 6 років тому +16

      The Swedish film trilogy is pretty good even if it doesn't have the budget of the US version. Definitely check it out if you want more of the story (Noomi Rapace's take on Lisbeth is quite different from Rooney Mara's but it's equally compelling).

  • @sebastianvaldivieso3603
    @sebastianvaldivieso3603 6 років тому +322

    I've only seen the Swedish trilogy and I've never realize how the american version of Millenium is so loyal to the book and how good Fincher adapted Larsson's work

    • @tylerreed2409
      @tylerreed2409 6 років тому +21

      Having watched both films, I was amazed at how loyal the adaptation was, while still appealing to local sensibilities. It really demonstrates how poorly handled most foreign adaptations are.
      It ended up not having the sequels merited, so perhaps America doesn't want accurate foreign adaptations.

    • @pureblackfire511
      @pureblackfire511 6 років тому +14

      Tyler Reed this movie made 10x more than the original in America. the issue is Sony is a bad studio that doesn't know how to manage money. without Marvel rebooting Spider-Man and The Rock saving them with Jumanji they'd be on the verge of sale or bankruptcy this year. heck, the new president of Sony might sell the movie and tv studios off anyway. this movie got lost in the system just like several good movies per year at WB. Edge of Tomorrow, The Nice Guys etc.

    • @Geschichtelehrer
      @Geschichtelehrer 5 років тому +11

      and the Swedish trilogy ist the better one.

    • @MsTriangle
      @MsTriangle 5 років тому +6

      yes, it's actually pretty funny that the Fincher version is closer to the book and manages to be a better movie overall

    • @fredericmoresmau4303
      @fredericmoresmau4303 4 роки тому +1

      girls don't go crazy like this..... they are actually pretty pragmatic about things............. it's a lie,
      I think they just pretend to be euphoric in presence of people and then they just leave like nothing

  • @riawidiharti1459
    @riawidiharti1459 5 років тому +16

    The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo is my favorite David Fincher's movie.

  • @christianhernandez9465
    @christianhernandez9465 6 років тому +8

    I am an aspiring filmmaker from Cuba, and i was looking for a way to learn more about the art of screenwriting, which is one of my biggest lacks. And then I found you. Dude, I can only say: Thank you so much for doing what you do, and please keep doing it.

  • @SchecterSG
    @SchecterSG 6 років тому +100

    There aren't a lot of things I would like more than to see this trilogy completed.. It's painful to know it'll never happen with this cast and crew. A damn shame, really.

  • @hova092
    @hova092 6 років тому +21

    This is seriously one of the best, and important, channels on all of UA-cam. Makes being a patron easy.

  • @dillonhuynh9560
    @dillonhuynh9560 5 років тому +8

    Young screenwriter here,
    This video is such an amazing breakdown and inspiration to young writers like myself. It's sad Fincher didn't continue the trilogy. Thank you so much for this video. Love your channel and the content you put out. It really sets you apart from other film video essay channels.

  • @Gr13fM4ch1n3
    @Gr13fM4ch1n3 6 років тому +3

    I adore this film. The soundtrack, the story telling, the characters, the cinematography.... I can't get enough of it. The final scene, without fail, brings me to tears every time. The music combined with her obvious emotional pain is so heartbreaking. Love this movie.

  • @andrewhoward6946
    @andrewhoward6946 6 років тому +376

    I'm still a big fan of Marvel and similar movies, but it is kinda sad to see when other quality movies fall to the wayside for being less marketable.

    • @LessonsfromtheScreenplay
      @LessonsfromtheScreenplay  6 років тому +23

      Me too! I enjoy a lot of the Marvel films. It's just unfortunate, like you said, that there is only so much room.

    • @tuesdayevenings
      @tuesdayevenings 6 років тому

      Especially when you consider how much more this probably made over the original

    • @watersmith4122
      @watersmith4122 6 років тому +2

      I can't help but feel we're gonna look back on them in the same vein as the b-movies of the 60s

    • @watersmith4122
      @watersmith4122 6 років тому +4

      and it's kinda sad that this is what we consider a bold, rule-breaking film. It's fine, but it's really not astounding or as 'out there' as you make it out to be

    • @aldenburton6240
      @aldenburton6240 6 років тому +9

      Oh just wait a bit longer. The marvel formula does not work forever. For instance I was so annoyed when Thor: Ragnarök was constantly undermining emotional moments by silly jokes. Guardians of The Galaxy 2 told us already that was okay, apparently.
      I enjoyed Winter Soldier and Civil War the most so far, since those stories gave at least a glimpse of consequences to actions and let the heroes suffer a bit for their decisions (the very first Iron Man movie did the same, a hero struggling over his actions).
      Now it's all comedy, which is fine but ultimately Marvel needs to understand that audiences grow up/wisen up and heroes need to as well. Tony Stark got the best character arc so far, Thor could have had one as well but his recent solo was mostly slapstick comedy while his kindred were slain by Hel, who was no villain to be taken seriously. I respected Surtr more than her for some reason.
      Star wars has the same problem, by the way. The Last Jedi especially.... even if Mike disapproves. That movie took risks at the wrong places and told us by mocking its origins (the comedy used was stuff you see in low level mockeries like The Epic Movie and Scary Movie)

  • @TheKathrynnnLaura
    @TheKathrynnnLaura 6 років тому +14

    Rooney Mara as Lisbeth was such a beautiful gem. I can't believe we missed out on what could have been an amazing trilogy... Can't wait for another Spiderman remake this year am I right?

  • @maxkuzma2934
    @maxkuzma2934 6 років тому +62

    Hey Michael, I've been watching for awhile without commenting and just wanted to let you know I really liked this video. I think a large part of the reason why I liked it so much is because of how engaged you were with exploring the implications of Fincher's quote. Your content is great and I always check out each new video you make, but I would also love to see more videos where you engage deeply with aspects of film that interest you in this way. Nice work!

  • @rizzadc2515
    @rizzadc2515 Рік тому +8

    What a detailed and comprehensive breakdown of one of my favorite (and underrated) Fincher films. Thank you for doing GWTDT justice!

  • @Mariapaula-mural24151
    @Mariapaula-mural24151 6 років тому +87

    This film is one of my favorite films because the Millennium saga is my favorite ever.
    I've been a fan of your lessons for almost a year, thanks for all the hard work! I'm pretty sure you're helping future scriptwriters and directors to be better.

  • @retroholmes
    @retroholmes 6 років тому +46

    For a million subscribers you should analyze a script written by you, what you did wrong, what you did right, what you would change knowing what you know now etc. Great video as usual man, keep it up.

  • @akkdlwldld9008
    @akkdlwldld9008 3 роки тому +12

    It would have been amazing to see the Fincher's trilogy complete... such a masterpiece (both the swedish and the american version in my opinion)

  • @malcelinho
    @malcelinho 6 років тому +3

    What I most like about your channel is that, sometimes, when I like a movie, I can't tell specifically *why* is that. I just... 'think is a good movie' or 'feels different'. You make me aware of *what* feels different when I watch these movies, and enlightens me about some reasons why I liked it.

  • @schmx
    @schmx 6 років тому +13

    Thank god, another video already ?
    LFTS has to be one of if not my favorite yt channel

  • @railcatcher2
    @railcatcher2 6 років тому +9

    These two essays about the limitations and virtues of conventional structure are by far your most insightful pieces yet. Thanks a lot for your help.

  • @joeycruz7667
    @joeycruz7667 6 років тому +4

    The breakdown of story beats within all five acts is friggin brilliant. Just opened up my mind to a whole new way of looking at structure. (insert mind-blown gif here)

  • @seankeogh6422
    @seankeogh6422 6 років тому +117

    I get a buzz whenever I see an upload from LFTS in my feed because I know every one of your videos will be well made, well researched, informative, and fascinating at every moment. Your videos have been a great help, so, thank you (if you see this ahaha)

  • @jordanmw94
    @jordanmw94 6 років тому +6

    One of the most compelling, unnerving and well cast Hollywood adaptations of a book. Ever. The first thing the director, producer and screenwriter all got right was that they each sat down read the fucking novel and loved it. Fincher and Zaillian are the super hero duo we so desperately need right now but don't deserve. Great video essay as always, Mr. Screenplay. You reminded me how much I love this film.

  • @hotturkin
    @hotturkin 6 років тому +5

    I love this movie so much, my favorite Fincher film as well. I was absolutely heartbroken that this didn't turn into a trilogy. His use of cool/warm colors set in a wintry backdrop immediately hooked me. I tried watching the originals but love this so much I couldn't get through them. Great video!

  • @camvick407
    @camvick407 5 років тому +25

    I wish the other films were made.. can't believe all the shit that's out instead

  • @nope4-0-4
    @nope4-0-4 6 років тому +79

    I want a sequel so bad :(

    • @LessonsfromtheScreenplay
      @LessonsfromtheScreenplay  6 років тому +8

      Me too!

    • @ricardodelsilva3891
      @ricardodelsilva3891 6 років тому

      They're making one. Unfortunately Fincher, Craig and Rooney Mara aren't returning but they are making an English version of 'The Girl in the Spider's Web', which I think they have said is meant to be a sequel to Fincher's adaptation. It sucks that Fincher isn't coming back to direct the sequel, but they got Fede Alvarez, who directed 'Evil Dead' and 'Don't Breathe', to helm it.

    • @platanialberto
      @platanialberto 6 років тому +2

      I have fingers crossed for that sequel, but I think the David Fincher/Steven Zaillian adaptation is insuperable.

    • @Fangtorn
      @Fangtorn 6 років тому +4

      You could try the Swedish versions if you don't mind subtitles or dubbing. They weren't directed by Fincher obviously but they stay very close to the books, and personally I prefer Noomi Rapace portrayal of Lisbeth compared to Rooney Mara.

    • @nope4-0-4
      @nope4-0-4 6 років тому +1

      The sweedish adaptation is wild ;) But I got really attached to the actors and how they portrayed the characters (I often do) and there's no substituting that.

  • @mikahong
    @mikahong 6 років тому +41

    Like i said on your last video, a video on a hayao miyazaki film would be great. Or my favorite animated film for quite sometime now, Wolf Children by studio chizu.

  • @IFeelSoTongueTied
    @IFeelSoTongueTied 6 років тому +179

    for 1million.... just talk about yr favourite film....

    • @limespider8
      @limespider8 5 років тому +5

      To be fair, this is more than just "talking" about one's favorite film. These videos are also analytical, and they require a decent understanding of the craft of filmmaking.

    • @JoseBYOB
      @JoseBYOB 5 років тому +1

      Great idea.

  • @mmageek
    @mmageek 6 років тому +1

    I love how you are breaking down each element of the screenplay and showing how important each is to all movies. Thank you so much.

  • @sanpablo4668
    @sanpablo4668 6 років тому +12

    2 days in a row of lfts videos best 2 days of my life

  • @JaiProdz
    @JaiProdz 6 років тому +46

    Anyone else still pissed Rooney and Daniel aren't returning. I waited YEARS!

    • @joshhansen20
      @joshhansen20 6 років тому +3

      More pissed about Fincher not returning but yeah.. Honestly not expecting much from this new iteration

    • @JaiProdz
      @JaiProdz 6 років тому

      Josh Hansen I feel like at least we would've had the cast. But I feel u!!

    • @BAllen-xh7uu
      @BAllen-xh7uu 5 років тому

      🙋🏻‍♀️

  • @remilortie1408
    @remilortie1408 4 роки тому +2

    Just watched the film again, perhaps for the fifth time, and yet never could explain why I felt so drawn into the story, characters and plot(s). A shifting structure and broken conventions are what makes this movie so engaging. Thanks!

  • @thegabrielhyde
    @thegabrielhyde 3 роки тому +5

    This was a great video in general, but I specifically want to single out what a great job it does of discussing the Lisbeth/Bjurman storyline without being graphic or upsetting. Really appreciated that.

  • @strega0
    @strega0 6 років тому +6

    i love this movie so much. shame it isn't going to be a trilogy.

  • @themmstudiopodcast7501
    @themmstudiopodcast7501 6 років тому +4

    This is perhaps the best thing you've ever done. I've been waiting for a video where you look at both sides of the argument for such a long time. Dragon Tattoo is my #3 Fincher and I love it even more now. Also I love how you turned the essay into a story/investigation about the background behind Fincher's comment. I think the thing that happened here is that the video essay genre just took one little step forward!

    • @LessonsfromtheScreenplay
      @LessonsfromtheScreenplay  6 років тому +2

      Wow, thank you! I'm glad you appreciated the trajectory of this/these videos. It was definitely hard to make it an investigation while also a lesson. This comment may have made my day! :D

  • @kyleobrien5006
    @kyleobrien5006 6 років тому +4

    Wow, I really loved how you broke this film down! The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo was such a fantastic adaptation, and this video just enriched my experience of the story. Thank you!

  • @ChiCity511
    @ChiCity511 3 роки тому +6

    It physically hurts that this will never be a trilogy :(

  • @CharlesTheClumsy
    @CharlesTheClumsy 6 років тому +59

    It's awesome to watch this movie for me because I'm Swedish. The movie shows so many details of our culture.

    • @LessonsfromtheScreenplay
      @LessonsfromtheScreenplay  6 років тому +4

      That's cool to hear!

    • @gabrielhahn3569
      @gabrielhahn3569 6 років тому +1

      Goth culture? XD

    • @fabricio_santana
      @fabricio_santana 6 років тому +1

      Let me ask you a question: how well do you guys understand Norwegian and Danish? Are you able to pick up Kierkegaard (and a Danish dictionary) and read relatively smoothly?

    • @CharlesTheClumsy
      @CharlesTheClumsy 6 років тому +4

      Fabrício Santana It's easier to read than to hear/speak. Some dialects of Norwegian sounds very similar to Swedish. We could talk to each other without any problem. But some dialects sound too strange to be comprehensible.
      Danish is harder but still somewhat understandable.

    • @fabricio_santana
      @fabricio_santana 6 років тому

      Interesting... So I think that with a little bit of input training you could come to understand them at an almost native level within a short period of time. So learning one of them might be almost killing three birds with one stone...
      Thanks for the answer :)

  • @denistaiwo157
    @denistaiwo157 6 років тому +4

    One of the most underrated films in the past decade.

  • @MizRouge
    @MizRouge 4 роки тому +2

    One of my all time favourite films. I will never get over the fact that they didn’t complete the trilogy. Perfect analysis, as always.

  • @alext8453
    @alext8453 6 років тому +7

    I had just gotten re-obsessed with this movie recently, seeing this in my subscription box freaked me out and I had to double check whether this was new or not haha thank you so much for this vid !!

  • @aberrantcow
    @aberrantcow 6 років тому +22

    Michael, you’re spoiling us! Two videos in the same week! 🙌

  • @thefirstorder3477
    @thefirstorder3477 6 років тому +72

    *sees LFTS make a video about David Fincher clicks immediately*

    • @VampEdits
      @VampEdits 6 років тому

      The First Order Same, honestly

  • @J2thePower0f3
    @J2thePower0f3 5 років тому +8

    Still devastated this trilogy was never resumed.

  • @logansmith563
    @logansmith563 6 років тому +24

    When you get a chance, please do a video on Phantom Thread. It's got a unique quality to it I can't quite put into words but I feel like you can.

  • @raimundocaminovillaseca8745
    @raimundocaminovillaseca8745 6 років тому +8

    Would be fun a video about multiple-character movies, like magnolia!

  • @mikahong
    @mikahong 6 років тому +17

    Wow, am I seeing this right. 2 videos from you in less than a week. Thank you for your hard work dude. Btw, off topic but Im currently a film student. I want to specialize in writing.

    • @LessonsfromtheScreenplay
      @LessonsfromtheScreenplay  6 років тому +1

      It's been a very busy couple of months. And that's awesome! Best of luck to you, write lots and lots!

    • @mikahong
      @mikahong 6 років тому +1

      Lessons from the Screenplay means a lot coming from you. Yes I will work hard :-)

  • @FacelessNoise
    @FacelessNoise 6 років тому +4

    I was so excited to see this pop up in my sub box. So glad to see this film getting the appreciation it deserves. I re watched it recently after reading through the original trilogy again and even though I've seen it a few times before, I was still as drawn in as I was the first time.
    The Swedish versions are great to have but to me, they focus more on hitting the main story points while Fincher's version delves so much more into the characters and the relationships. I held my breath for years hoping he'd be able to continue the series, ah well:( Great video, as usual!:)

  • @rhizomorph-music
    @rhizomorph-music 4 роки тому +2

    Fcking brilliant. You are amazing at untying cinematic structure. I'm a nascent screenwriter, trying hard constantly to understand this stuff, and I can't see it nearly as clearly as you can. These videos are more illuminating to me than whole books on screenwriting that I've read (in vain) hoping for this kind of insight. Please keep doing this, and please keep focusing on thrillers.

  • @BMOCroc
    @BMOCroc 6 років тому +8

    I wish Fincher wouldve done the other 2 moves

  • @JulianTerry
    @JulianTerry 6 років тому +11

    Whenever your videos pop up I get super pumped! As a DP I would constantly get handed scripts that had massive action paragraphs covering pages. I'd love to see a video discussing action and better ways to discuss detail in scripts.

  • @damgedroses
    @damgedroses 5 років тому +3

    This movie was amazing and people usually look it over, thank you dude! this movie deserves better.

  • @nrosen1228
    @nrosen1228 6 років тому

    This is absolutely one of the best filmmaking videos on UA-cam to date. Bravo.

  • @KylerRamos
    @KylerRamos 6 років тому +3

    I loved this movie, I remember looking at reviews and the main common problem was is that people felt it had bad pacing. To me, because I was interested in the characters and where their stories were going, I was hooked from beginning to end. I also vividly remember the trailer to this movie, it's pretty good, just bombards you with fast clips that give you the vibe and atmosphere of the movie without spoiling the story.

  • @brianmcd993
    @brianmcd993 6 років тому +6

    I'm still so sad they never made The Girl Who Played With Fire & Kicked the Hornet's Nest

  • @jordandodson1991
    @jordandodson1991 6 років тому

    The edit (at 2:10) from the main protagonists to their love interests was such a simple & powerful way of making your point

  • @bveracka
    @bveracka 8 місяців тому +1

    My avatar says everything you need to know about my feelings for this film. Such an amazing work by Fincher, and highly underrated.

  • @nourinahmed1940
    @nourinahmed1940 6 років тому +6

    I'm still waiting for the second movie! :(

  • @turdferguson9190
    @turdferguson9190 6 років тому +6

    This makes me even more sad that Fincher didnt get to finish his trilogy...

  • @tylerwilkerson8188
    @tylerwilkerson8188 5 років тому +2

    The film was one of my favorites, because of this unconventional structure. Just when you're getting ready for something to end, it just keeps going, and throwing more hooks at you, pulling you deeper into the story

  • @nefariousbum9982
    @nefariousbum9982 6 років тому +2

    Love this movie, definitely one of my favorite Fincher films as well. Still mad they didn't continue it. Good video, you broke it down very nicely. It makes me appreciate the film even more.

  • @eu_lucasfer
    @eu_lucasfer 6 років тому +12

    I see you have a lot of love for Fincher. Hope you do Fight Club or Zodiac or Panic Room one of these days.

  • @Hjoannette
    @Hjoannette 6 років тому +5

    PLEASE Talk about The Prestige and it's unique act structure!

  • @pedrohp3
    @pedrohp3 6 років тому +3

    I think this is your greatest work on this channel. Amazing video, thank you for that!!

  • @CinemaRockPizza
    @CinemaRockPizza 6 років тому +1

    I just want to say - thank you Michael for your dedication to the videos and the channel. For me it is like having a good friend somewhere around and listening, discussing with him on films and writing - without meeting him in life, unfortunately. Btw it is radically better than film schools which turn this process of studying into routine and formal programs.
    Thank you, LFTS.

  • @MightiestArm
    @MightiestArm 6 років тому +26

    I loved this movie, to bad they never got the trilogy

  • @TheToda
    @TheToda 6 років тому +7

    WHEN you hit 1 million, I would say go back to one of your first videos, maybe even the first one and reanalyze your own screenplay for the video. See if you still agree with your original perspective, why or why not.
    To me celebrating an occasion always feels more momentous when you can see how far you’ve come.

  • @kdgurl94
    @kdgurl94 6 років тому +69

    Im glad somebody else loves this movie! Every time I try to bring it up its virtues, I always get something along the lines of "the original is waaaayyyy better. You should watch the original." Well I have, and this one, in my humble opinion, is way better.

    • @jnavarim
      @jnavarim 6 років тому +11

      Yeah man, people love to say "go watch the original" and I always answer the same thing. I did watch, and the Fincher one is actually waaaaayyy better.

    • @alexmeyjes5533
      @alexmeyjes5533 4 роки тому +1

      i saw the original first and once you get past the starpower of Daniel Craig you will see the original much clearer.

    • @julian1127
      @julian1127 4 роки тому

      The same thing happens when I bring up why I love The Ring (2002).

  • @carlosregente3472
    @carlosregente3472 6 років тому +30

    I've been subscribed to your channel for a while, but never commented on anything. Until now.
    You sir, are an extraordinary analyst on narrative structures, and for that I really, really admire you.
    It's so cool, so great to learn so many things through your eyes and perspective, and that's always awesome; specially for me, being a filmmaker and a writer in constant (and hopefully good) knowledge upgrading.
    Thanks for sharing your knowledge with the world, in such a brilliant way. (:

  • @andypham1451
    @andypham1451 6 років тому +31

    Always learning with every video you upload and your channel is one of my favourites.
    Could you give "Legion" a try? Of how to write a protagonist as an unreliable narrator? And how to use it correctly.

    • @RevJ7
      @RevJ7 6 років тому +2

      Or the same type of video with Mr Robot in mind.

    • @andypham1451
      @andypham1451 6 років тому

      Both are really amazing shows

  • @7kuro7hyo7
    @7kuro7hyo7 6 років тому +4

    You truly have a gift doing this. Thank you for these amazing videos. I always get excited when you post a new one because I know that I'll learn something new.

  • @MrVeni0910
    @MrVeni0910 6 років тому

    Loved the video! It was very easy to follow with the bar at the bottom. Great idea and great way you explained everything!

  • @victormorettigregorio5399
    @victormorettigregorio5399 5 років тому +1

    Michael, you blow my mind away with each video. I actually avoid watching more than one or two every week because I really take the time to think about what you say, watch the movie again, and think some more. Thank you so much for your amazing work, you're absolutely terrific!

  • @1OneNoob1
    @1OneNoob1 6 років тому +25

    Amazing content, like good movies you are underrated...
    Keep it up, I learn something in every one of your videos

  • @scs54
    @scs54 6 років тому +27

    The problem as well is less people are going to movie theatres and rather stay home to watch Netflix. Also with TV the story arcs are longer so the audience gets more invested with the characters. The only way movies can combat this is shared universes. But cheers on the video.

    • @enkiimuto1041
      @enkiimuto1041 5 років тому +1

      I think this is more of the issue. Theater can be expensive, and I fucking hate going to them.
      I always try to make room for marvel movies because I know I'm going to have fun seeing the characters on screen, even if the plot may not be good. I do not mind at all sitting to see a movie that I can walk away if I don't like on netflix, I fucking detest the idea that a movie that the trailer might not me feel anything about characters or that I just saw it once is worth the effort of picking up a bus.

    • @jeromealday614
      @jeromealday614 4 роки тому

      Shared Universe? You mean a collection of same same movies.

  • @lilicastillo7126
    @lilicastillo7126 6 років тому +9

    I swear, everytime people say the Swedish version is better than Fincher's I always defend it by saying all the points that you mention here; I am so glad I am not alone in this, someone sees Fincher's masterpiece and how he was settling everything for a trilogy.
    The Millenium trilogy is one of my favorite books, and Fincher made The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo in the same way Larsson wrote it: The first one serves as a stablishment of the characters, the setting, the subjects that he'll be talking about. It's a great, amazing story but book 2 and 3 are ASTONISHING. They're a clear masterpieces, they go down a path you would have never expected and keeps you, everytime, under the edge.
    Fincher was doing the same thing and it will always break my heart that he will never be able to continue with them.
    Thank you for these two videos :-) You're awesome.

  • @inscrutablyshort
    @inscrutablyshort 6 років тому

    Thank you for these past two videos! So practical and applicable. Also, fantastic editing, that helps a WHOLE lot.

  • @salemsaberhagen1570
    @salemsaberhagen1570 6 років тому +10

    I really wish they would've finished the trilogy.

    • @denisschulz3814
      @denisschulz3814 6 років тому +1

      Do you know the "original" danish Films by Niels Arden Oplev? They are really great, and may be even better, but that is up to the viewer ;)

    • @salemsaberhagen1570
      @salemsaberhagen1570 6 років тому

      Denis Schulz yes I loved them! But I also wanted to see Fincher's take on them

    • @denisschulz3814
      @denisschulz3814 6 років тому +1

      Yes, that is definietly true! Fincher is a true genius. However, his Version of "Dragon Tattoo" was very close to the danish version, so I guess the other films would not differ that much either

  • @cnt2495
    @cnt2495 6 років тому +32

    I know there are so many reviews/analyses on the film, The Thing by John Carpenter (1982), I absolutely loved this movie so I guess I am biased by saying that it is one of the best movies I've ever watched that kept me on my toes throughout the entire film. But I would love it for you to analyze it and hear your thoughts on how the movie was good/bad.

    • @venomtang
      @venomtang 6 років тому +1

      cmoot THAT is a great idea

  • @polypeptide
    @polypeptide 6 років тому +1

    This was very well-made and thought out. I always loved this movie, but never thought about the structure in that way. Great job!

  • @Sikaffy
    @Sikaffy 6 років тому

    One of my favorite videos so far, thanks for all your amazing work!

  • @gui232323
    @gui232323 6 років тому +3

    Two videos in the same week? What did I do to be blessed like this?

  • @andrewsobotka
    @andrewsobotka 6 років тому +7

    Amazing work as always. Highlight of January.
    I think you should do a screenplay review of how you make your screenplays to celebrate your 1 mil.

  • @elifg.g2254
    @elifg.g2254 6 років тому

    I’m in awe of the way you dissect movies. Beautifully done.

  • @samdawsonchannel
    @samdawsonchannel 6 років тому

    I love hearing stuff in these videos which will be relevant to a career in both screen writing and directing. Keep up the great work.