True Detective vs. Se7en - Creating Light Amongst The Dark

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  • @LessonsfromtheScreenplay
    @LessonsfromtheScreenplay  7 років тому +1877

    True Detective and Se7en are two of my all-time favorite things to watch. I've seen both many, many times, and I always love the last moments where we get to see the characters change, ever so slightly. Hope you enjoy the video, what movie or show I do in a future video?!

    • @JuliaSilva-og6pp
      @JuliaSilva-og6pp 7 років тому +27

      Do something by Charlie Kaufman.

    • @razeensamsodien5633
      @razeensamsodien5633 7 років тому +7

      Julia Silva YES!!! Mainly, Synecdoche, New York

    • @715creeks
      @715creeks 7 років тому +10

      Lessons from the Screenplay I just rewatched True Detective last night and thought to myself that I would like to see David Fincher tackle Season 3! Crazy that you made this video after I had this thought last night. Haven't watched Season 2 yet

    • @iv0rysh0es39
      @iv0rysh0es39 7 років тому +31

      Lessons from the Screenplay I'd love to see some analysis on Prisoners, La La Land, The Prestige, No Country for Old Men, Drive.

    • @BreakingBanter
      @BreakingBanter 7 років тому +7

      True Detective is the fucking bomb so thanks so much for this! Would dig a video on Westworld or Creed. Or just some blockbuster that stacks it's stakes really well. So many new blockbusters just have these massive, unearned finales and I'd dig seeing you break down how the ones that do it well pull it off.

  • @BreakingBanter
    @BreakingBanter 7 років тому +4160

    Rust Cohle is one of the greatest characters ever written, hands down.

    • @LessonsfromtheScreenplay
      @LessonsfromtheScreenplay  7 років тому +524

      plus with that performance...oh man.

    • @BreakingBanter
      @BreakingBanter 7 років тому +258

      That was the most tense Emmy's ceremony I've ever watched. Bryan Cranston V Matthew McConaughey... wow.
      I'm also still convinced that episode 5 of this show is one of the best written hours of anything I've ever seen. Rust's interrogation of the armed robbery guy is just perfection.

    • @iv0rysh0es39
      @iv0rysh0es39 7 років тому +40

      Breaking Banter Rust Cohle vs Heisenberg

    • @notmynameanymore71
      @notmynameanymore71 7 років тому +82

      If it had been anything other than Breaking Bad's final season I'm convinced McConaughey would have won. Like if there was going to be a season six it would have been a shoo-in.
      Which is lame because Cranston had already won for the role three times. But whatever!

    • @ColeyBama12
      @ColeyBama12 7 років тому +5

      Which book?

  • @martasalja6696
    @martasalja6696 6 років тому +1699

    "In order to feel like your child was spared the burden of existence, one has to believe that existence is a burden." Said so simply, yet so masterfully.

    • @jakovmysteriofan
      @jakovmysteriofan 5 років тому +26

      What's the most you ever lost on a coin toss?

    • @harrisp584
      @harrisp584 5 років тому +9

      "how could you say something so controversial, yet so brave"

    • @johnmonk9167
      @johnmonk9167 4 роки тому +5

      Which also means murder would be a mercy.

    • @ahabduennschitz7670
      @ahabduennschitz7670 3 роки тому +12

      "Aaww man, I shot Marvin in the Face"

    • @martasalja6696
      @martasalja6696 3 роки тому

      @@jakovmysteriofan don't know, couldn't say

  • @filmosophy101
    @filmosophy101 7 років тому +526

    I choked up a little when Rust said the line "if you ask me the light's winning". It's easy to fall into a nihilistic view of the world like he did and his struggle to challenge that view was hard but satisfying to watch.

    • @LessonsfromtheScreenplay
      @LessonsfromtheScreenplay  7 років тому +60

      I love that he says it, and I love the way he says it. I find it to be very powerful.

    • @smoss9813
      @smoss9813 4 роки тому +9

      Alan Moore wrote something very similar

  • @tidypog3272
    @tidypog3272 4 роки тому +356

    People always forget Marty. He's at least half of Cole.
    The man who can't say yes and the man who is unable to say no

  • @jofall91
    @jofall91 5 років тому +484

    “Every time I think you hit the ceiling, you just keep raising the bar. You are like the Michael Jordan of being a son of a bitch.” God that line always kills me. 😂

  • @majajajajajaty
    @majajajajajaty 7 років тому +751

    love seeing the difference between the original script and what eventually made it to screen

    • @LessonsfromtheScreenplay
      @LessonsfromtheScreenplay  7 років тому +302

      Yeah, there were a lot of interesting changes. I always find that fascinating too.

    • @pascalcosta2614
      @pascalcosta2614 7 років тому +52

      where do you find all the original screenplays? esp. drafts for this case

  • @LikeStoriesofOld
    @LikeStoriesofOld 7 років тому +837

    _"To realize that all your life - you know, all your love, all your hate, all your memories, all your pain - it was all the same thing. It was all the same dream, a dream that you had inside a locked room, a dream about being a person. And like a lot of dreams, there's a monster at the end of it."_ - True Detective might just be my favorite tv show, awesome video once again Michael! I've been toying around with a video on True Detective myself and this was really inspiring, thanks!

    • @LessonsfromtheScreenplay
      @LessonsfromtheScreenplay  7 років тому +42

      Such a good quote. Such a good show. Thanks! If you end up doing one I'll be excited to see it!

    • @RalphLindsen
      @RalphLindsen 7 років тому +5

      Will you ever do an episode about season two of true detective? How it went wrong? Often you can learn even better lessons from failure, and the genius of s01 makes the downfall that more interesting.

    • @yashin99
      @yashin99 7 років тому +7

      Like Stories of Old
      Your videos are godly, so it would be a mind trip to watch your take on True Detective

    • @scottbain623
      @scottbain623 6 років тому +6

      I don't personally think it went wrong, it was just a very different beast than the first season.

    • @jimjam7928
      @jimjam7928 5 років тому +1

      @@scottbain623 I actually really liked it, but it could have been so much better. The story was absolutely packed with characters and plots with little breathing space, and the writing was clearly rushed through development.

  • @SNOWSOS
    @SNOWSOS 7 років тому +344

    Now I want to re-watch both.

  • @jon-umber
    @jon-umber 6 років тому +603

    True Detective season one was one of the best pieces of television I've ever seen. Great video, thanks!

    • @MichaelTPaulo
      @MichaelTPaulo 4 роки тому +2

      Greatjon Umber
      You haven’t seen Mr Robot

    • @simon709
      @simon709 4 роки тому +16

      @@MichaelTPaulo wow, comparing Mr. Robot to True Detective (S1) is like comparing Batman&Robin to the Dark Knight

    • @MichaelTPaulo
      @MichaelTPaulo 4 роки тому

      @@simon709 really? how??

    • @simon709
      @simon709 4 роки тому +7

      @@MichaelTPaulo Mr. Robot is shit?

    • @joeychill4364
      @joeychill4364 3 роки тому

      Don’t forget the music.

  • @NexSicarius
    @NexSicarius 7 років тому +84

    Damn, the final scene of True Detective bring me to silent tears, every time. The massive shift in Rust's perspective makes me feel like there is still some hope for this world.

  • @MichaelSveistrup
    @MichaelSveistrup 7 років тому +951

    Have no one seemed to notice that the video is 17 minutes 7 seconds? As stated in the video, True Detective takes place over 17 years and Se7en takes place over 7 days. Nice little Easter egg Michael ;)

    • @LessonsfromtheScreenplay
      @LessonsfromtheScreenplay  7 років тому +297

      :O totally intentional... (nice find, clever 😜)

    • @morty1504
      @morty1504 5 років тому +63

      It takes 17 minutes and 8 second for me :)

    • @bb2fiddler
      @bb2fiddler 5 років тому +14

      @@morty1504 minus 1 second for typewriter sounds in the beginning

    • @ohcessiliaa06
      @ohcessiliaa06 5 років тому +20

      @@bb2fiddler no that's just youtube. All of the videos has atleast 1 second added for some reason

  • @CrypticcYT
    @CrypticcYT 7 років тому +3592

    Okay, now do The Human Centipede vs. Happy Feet.

    • @LessonsfromtheScreenplay
      @LessonsfromtheScreenplay  7 років тому +635

      lol. (No.)

    • @youngsmitty347
      @youngsmitty347 7 років тому +128

      Crypticc Oh, I get it! Because of the anti-religious meaning behind both films. Man, that would make for an interesting video.

    • @sewerface
      @sewerface 7 років тому +44

      There's nowhere else to go from here.

    • @Carcosahead
      @Carcosahead 7 років тому +14

      Star Wars vs Star Trek

    • @ikra7749
      @ikra7749 7 років тому +20

      Godzilla vs. Monsters versus Aliens

  • @LadyAstarionAncunin
    @LadyAstarionAncunin Рік тому +27

    "Given how long it's taken for me to reconcile my nature, I can't figure I'd forgo it on your account" is one of my favorite lines in anything. I think it's because it's something I may have thought at one point, given how people try to change who/how you are, even when who/how you are poses them no threat and their only real problem is their discomfort with you not being just like them.

  • @pumpkinqueen5450
    @pumpkinqueen5450 6 років тому +48

    Matthew McConaughey is scary talented. Just pure talent.

  • @professionalname5298
    @professionalname5298 5 років тому +219

    “Well given how long it’s taken to reconcile my nature Marty, I can’t figure I’d forgo it on your account” someone give Nic Pizzolato some writing awards please

    • @fhaf33z
      @fhaf33z 3 роки тому

      You know he plagiarized a book right? Got away with it too.

    • @professionalname5298
      @professionalname5298 3 роки тому +8

      @@fhaf33z I have never heard of that, do you have any sources?

    • @pedetefuerte
      @pedetefuerte 3 роки тому

      @@fhaf33z what book?

    • @jegangunnithan4565
      @jegangunnithan4565 3 роки тому +3

      @@pedetefuerte he didn't plagiarise the book but rust pessimistic values came from Thomas ligoti book

    • @dalano_films
      @dalano_films 3 роки тому

      This line in the screenplay was different, looks like this was Matthew McConaughey's own twist on it

  • @Kishan_Baijnath
    @Kishan_Baijnath 7 років тому +515

    As long as there's Lessons from the Screenplay, the light will be winning.

  • @BrorealeK
    @BrorealeK 7 років тому +2468

    True Detective was a masterpiece. I'm so glad they didn't do a second season, I'm sure it would have been terrible.

    • @ManSeekingMeaning
      @ManSeekingMeaning 7 років тому +215

      Broreale hahaha. This comment is so win.

    • @f3nrir_
      @f3nrir_ 7 років тому +158

      I am glad that they thought season 2 would be a disaster to make, so they wouldnt even think of season 3

    • @ЛюбоМанолов-ь9о
      @ЛюбоМанолов-ь9о 7 років тому +151

      It wasn't terrible, it had it's merrits, the ending was actually very well done. It was like a regular mediocre show. But not terrible.

    • @shhs1227
      @shhs1227 7 років тому +214

      Любо Манолов it wasn't mediocre. it just had ridiculous expectations to live up to. doesn't help that HBO rushed pizzolatto as well

    • @greenakutabi
      @greenakutabi 7 років тому +83

      SH HS HBO admitted that they messed up by rushing him.

  • @vicenteortegarubilar9418
    @vicenteortegarubilar9418 7 років тому +204

    youtube is a fine place and worth when I am watching this kind of videos... I agree with the second part.

    • @supastar25
      @supastar25 5 років тому +2

      This kind of content is absolute gold

  • @docpepperclassic
    @docpepperclassic 7 років тому +85

    This video broke a screenplay I've been stuck on for literal months. I just watched it and it immediately highlighted what I need to do to fix the problem I've been having. Thank you so much.

    • @VikingFitness00
      @VikingFitness00 5 років тому +3

      did you sell that screenplay ?

    • @martinrojas412
      @martinrojas412 9 місяців тому

      Did you?

    • @docpepperclassic
      @docpepperclassic 9 місяців тому +1

      @@martinrojas412 No, it didn’t sell. Finished it, though, and I’m really proud of it.

    • @fatimaa1277
      @fatimaa1277 8 місяців тому

      I wonder what is It about

  • @isaacninan5053
    @isaacninan5053 7 років тому +126

    Great, now I want to watch True Detective all over again.

    • @LessonsfromtheScreenplay
      @LessonsfromtheScreenplay  7 років тому +7

      mmhmm.

    • @AL-SH
      @AL-SH 5 років тому +10

      You'll do this again... time is a flat circle.

    • @Tony-fq5bn
      @Tony-fq5bn 3 роки тому

      One of the most rewatchable series/movies out there

  • @JustNicole6400
    @JustNicole6400 7 років тому +80

    You literally picked my favorite show and my favorite movie.... I'm beyond impressed

  • @supsap6545
    @supsap6545 7 років тому +653

    Fantastic video, probably your very best yet. Thx for doing these.

    • @LessonsfromtheScreenplay
      @LessonsfromtheScreenplay  7 років тому +99

      Thank *you* for watching these ;)

    • @chandus2496
      @chandus2496 7 років тому +5

      I have seen a lot of your videos and I agree with that comment. This has been my personal favorite.

    • @aamirsohail9193
      @aamirsohail9193 7 років тому +1

      Aye. Really well examined and really well put together.

  • @mammontustado9680
    @mammontustado9680 7 місяців тому +1

    I've watched this video essay probably 7 times now, and every time your final line "To make sure the light keeps winning" puts a tear in my eye. It resonates with me so much. Thank you. -A long-time LFTS fan

  • @mycommentpwnz
    @mycommentpwnz 6 років тому +55

    The analysis in this video.... is VERY well done. Often times, by merely watching a movie/show, the artistic motivation and true essence only hits the viewer on a nearly subconscious level. You FEEL it, but to encapsulate it into words can be difficult. This video illuminates how complex, meaningful, and thought provoking a good story can be. Props to the maker.

  • @stanverlaan1147
    @stanverlaan1147 7 років тому +104

    Wow. I haven't watched the video yet, but Se7en and True Detective are two of my favourite pieces of cinema. Thank you already.

    • @stanverlaan1147
      @stanverlaan1147 7 років тому +2

      incredible! I love it, thank you!

    • @LessonsfromtheScreenplay
      @LessonsfromtheScreenplay  7 років тому +9

      Me too! "Pieces of cinema" is a great way to refer to them both. I should have used that...

  • @Beforethecredits
    @Beforethecredits 7 років тому +428

    I always love your work man. You're a huge inspiration for me. The final scene is Se7en is fantastic. I still want you to do the Before Trilogy.

    • @Onawhimexplorer
      @Onawhimexplorer 7 років тому +10

      What's in the box!!!

    • @LessonsfromtheScreenplay
      @LessonsfromtheScreenplay  7 років тому +52

      Thank you, that's nice to hear! I still want to do the Before Trilogy-so many romantic stories to do...Her, Eternal Sunshine, Before Trilogy...

    • @Beforethecredits
      @Beforethecredits 7 років тому +5

      You know, I would love to see you do Her. I think it would be really different because Scarlett plays such a HUGE role yet she is never seen, just heard.

    • @amaliant9488
      @amaliant9488 7 років тому +2

      You should watch "Comet".It made me feel like "Before Midnight". Very well written and directed.It's one of my personal favourites and I cant understand it's IMDB rate.

    • @Beforethecredits
      @Beforethecredits 7 років тому

      That actually looks really interesting, Ill have to check it out. Thanks Emily.

  • @ent_march7712
    @ent_march7712 7 років тому +54

    gained so much knowledge about movies and stories from your videos, never stop :)

  • @needlessToo
    @needlessToo 7 років тому +15

    Se7en has been my favorite movie of all time for the last 20 years and True Detective made it up there as well. This video expertly explained why I love them.

  • @AkilesJose
    @AkilesJose 7 років тому +11

    I'm not a writter nor film student, but this UA-cam channel has gone straight up to my favorites.

  • @xfilion
    @xfilion 7 років тому +7

    The dialogue in True Detective was mesmerising, Rusty's in particular. It's what was missed so much in the sequel.

  • @jimjam7928
    @jimjam7928 5 років тому +25

    Seven is one of my favourite movies. The characters are so strongly realised, and I think Morgan Freeman was born to play Detective Somerset.

  • @MAgnew898
    @MAgnew898 7 років тому +50

    After asking Wisecrack on every video for a breakdown of True Detective, I'm glad you did one instead!

  • @9000ck
    @9000ck 4 роки тому +113

    I love True Detective, but when Cole said he could 'smell the psychosphere,' I burst out laughing.

    • @HzBurak-rl3wo
      @HzBurak-rl3wo 4 роки тому +21

      İts a Real shit tho (synesthesia)

    • @Brownismyname
      @Brownismyname 3 роки тому +2

      when I smell the psychosphere, someone has shit himself

    • @Mcgif21
      @Mcgif21 3 роки тому +29

      The things you say when you are recovering from accidental meth addiction.

    • @chromesthesia
      @chromesthesia 3 роки тому +1

      @@HzBurak-rl3wo I have that

    • @samlosco8441
      @samlosco8441 3 роки тому +18

      I think it’s expected for a lot of viewers to laugh tbh. Marty even mocks him for it not long after

  • @NITZANG1
    @NITZANG1 7 років тому +97

    I remember watching true detective and feeling like it's a visual "Nine inch nails - the downward spiral", much like se7en and other David Fincher's works.

    • @andrewforte3852
      @andrewforte3852 5 років тому +7

      We need a David Fincher Batman ASAP!

    • @Tony-fq5bn
      @Tony-fq5bn 3 роки тому +2

      @@andrewforte3852 Kinda feel like this new Batman movie coming out might be like that

    • @andrewforte3852
      @andrewforte3852 3 роки тому +2

      @@Tony-fq5bn The Batman trailers do look like a mixture of Seven and Zodiac.

    • @lootpack7744
      @lootpack7744 2 роки тому +2

      @@Tony-fq5bn Signed, sealed, and delivered.

    • @Tony-fq5bn
      @Tony-fq5bn 2 роки тому +2

      @@lootpack7744 Just saw it, ya def thought of a few diff movies while watching it, but I thought this movie compared to Seven the same way Joker compared to Taxi Driver. You couldn't tell me Paul Dano wasn't trying to channel K Spacey at points

  • @iranbek
    @iranbek 7 років тому +490

    JOHN DOE: "Detective.... Detective.... DETECTI-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-IVE!!!!!!!"

    • @LessonsfromtheScreenplay
      @LessonsfromtheScreenplay  7 років тому +60

      Possibly my favorite moment.

    • @kdizzle901
      @kdizzle901 6 років тому +10

      I’d like to speak to my lawyer please

    • @babyboomer6272
      @babyboomer6272 5 років тому +15

      Snake? Snake!?
      SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE!!!!!!

    • @mileyhannah1306
      @mileyhannah1306 5 років тому +10

      My favourite scene! The way his tone changes in a matter of seconds

    • @ailouros24
      @ailouros24 5 років тому +5

      not to be confused with lucifers "DETECTIVE!!!!!"

  • @Soniti1324
    @Soniti1324 7 років тому +122

    True Detective Season 1 remains some of the best television ever made. (It's a shame they never made another season /sarcasm)
    The last line of the season was a perfect ending. Rust no longer believes that the world is dead, rotted, and all but waiting for oblivion.
    He gains the understanding that while the light may not be able to banish all the darkness, right now, today, it can still brighten creation even just a little more, and those individual battles are not fought in vain. They point to a culmination in which all that is wrong will be put right.
    Truly a beautiful ending to a horrifying story.

  • @jessemilstead810
    @jessemilstead810 2 роки тому +3

    One of my favorite parts of se7en is a certain part that makes it such a dark movie that leads up to the end and that’s the fact that every time the characters are outside it’s raining and raining hard, expect for the climax of the movie

  • @fuzzydunlop7928
    @fuzzydunlop7928 7 років тому +6

    I think part of what makes Rustin Cohl such a compelling character is that his personal 'wound', is communicated in such a way as to make the viewer believe in his world-view. Even if they may have never thought that way beforehand. He's got a very interesting 'cult leader' aspect about him, while still being a solitary character - almost as if he recognizes this aspect about himself and does everything he can to repel others, and not fulfill this potential.

  • @negativezero3107
    @negativezero3107 Рік тому +5

    I do not see many comments on this but the addition of Carcosa and The King in Yellow was brilliant, which inspired even Lovecraft, really nice touch and made it infinitely more creepy.

  • @Peanutjoepap24
    @Peanutjoepap24 7 років тому +7

    Great stuff about two of my favorite dark as hell crime thrillers. Also I love that we've just gotten to a place that saying the words "True Detective" just automatically refers to season one and just forgets that other thing.

    • @LessonsfromtheScreenplay
      @LessonsfromtheScreenplay  7 років тому +3

      Yup! Sry season 2 :P

    • @Peanutjoepap24
      @Peanutjoepap24 7 років тому

      Lessons from the Screenplay I don't hate season 2 as much as some people but it doesn't hold a candle to 1. The characters and writing weren't as interesting, it was thematically hollow, and lacked that unique flavor that season 1 found in backwoods Louisiana and it's vague mysticism.

  • @yskim2636
    @yskim2636 4 роки тому +56

    "Only in the darkness, can you see the stars." - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

  • @siddsen95
    @siddsen95 7 років тому +73

    This video means a hell of a lot to me.
    Expertly crafted cinematography and writing on par with any Camus or J.P. Sartre classic, these are two pieces of cinematic artistic achievements which explores the meaning of our lives through a decisively dark lens.
    And comes out with the oldest lesson of mankind : Hope.
    Michael, your efforts just reminded someone of the reasons to go on. You gift of a person. Thank You

  • @marioguedes4606
    @marioguedes4606 7 років тому +26

    "In order to feel like your child was spared the burden of existence, one *has* to believe that existence is a burden."
    It never ceases to amaze me how art can so accurately yet subtly capture the essence of the human condition. Thanks for breaking that down!

  • @kylecoffman4738
    @kylecoffman4738 7 років тому +88

    I still maintain that the difference between S1 and S2 TD are the caliber of the actors. Imagine if Harrelson has uttered the line about 'blue balls in the heart'... he would have made it true to his character, and though it might have seemed off-kilter and zany, it still would have rang true in the scene. Now imagine if Vince Vaughn had said the line about 'being the micheal jordan of being a sunuvabitch', it would have sounded hollow, forced, and amateurish. Or imagine if Rachel Mcadams had been talking about 'smelling a phsycosphere'. Pizzolato's writing is unique and imaginative, but it takes a nuanced and brilliant actor to bring those words to the screen with any truth. Lightning in a bottle with MM and WH. Not to mention Fukanaga's impeccable directing.

    • @myfilms999
      @myfilms999 5 років тому +6

      You are 100000% right

    • @fhaf33z
      @fhaf33z 3 роки тому

      Dont forget his writing was plagiarized. He ran out of writing material after season 1.

    • @Tony-fq5bn
      @Tony-fq5bn 3 роки тому +4

      I think Fukanaga's absence is what kills the show rather than the actors........like, Vince Vaughn is not THAT bad lol the way he played his character was odd to say the least, and whose idea was it for Colin Ferell's character to look like that? Also, they used music like the first season, which made you feel like their might be some weird stuff going on, but the story was never that deep in S2, so its like, "why are you using this music?"

    • @soheiladam7510
      @soheiladam7510 2 роки тому +7

      I don't think so, yeah the cast wasn't superb but it wasn't bad either, the script was rushed and the story wasn't refined and it showed. expecting a second season like the first is absurd. it's impossible.

  • @jaimelann4679
    @jaimelann4679 7 років тому +188

    i would love if you did an in-depth analysis of Anton Chigurh from No Country for Old Men. one of the most complex, frightening characters i've ever seen

    • @LessonsfromtheScreenplay
      @LessonsfromtheScreenplay  7 років тому +38

      No Country would be a lot of fun to do.

    • @matthew1882
      @matthew1882 6 років тому +6

      Anton Chigur getting sent to hunt down The Yellow King /Tuttle cult. Now that sounds like a True Detective season 4.

    • @amanshivhare5340
      @amanshivhare5340 5 років тому +17

      Anton chigurh is not a complex character he is as simple it could be

    • @MyEverythingBurrito
      @MyEverythingBurrito 4 роки тому +9

      @@amanshivhare5340 he's more like a force of nature than a character

    • @HandleGF
      @HandleGF 4 роки тому

      An inferior Terminator... a crude Shadow character of the type to which Americans seem devoted.

  • @HoneyBunRoad
    @HoneyBunRoad 5 років тому +6

    I just re-watched True Detective last week and I'm ready to go again. It's a masterpiece!

  • @SokaMagic
    @SokaMagic 7 років тому +40

    Great stuff! It is evident that you put lot of hard work into your videos. It is very inspiring for me, as a guy who is very passionate about movies.

  • @Mindcreat0r
    @Mindcreat0r 3 роки тому +7

    “You are like the Michael Jordan of being a son of a b*tch” is such a lightening in a bottle line. I imagine that after the writer wrote that down he smiled to himself for a while.

  • @Upuiff09
    @Upuiff09 6 місяців тому +1

    the ending to true detective season 1 literally made me break my computer with how intense it was, accidently spilled water on it like 2 months ago lmao

  • @blacksheep_77
    @blacksheep_77 5 років тому +4

    Recently found your channel and I must say that I am not just learning massive amounts about story and character and the writers who are walking on the edge of greatness, but I am learning about myself and the stories that have been bouncing around in my soul for decades. This particular episode is fascinating to me...this reality of light and darkness and how the darkness works on the soul to lead it to pessimism, passivity or even despair and ultimately causes the human being to cease being purposeful as a vessel of light. SeVen was a film of my younger life, I saw it in the theatre and it was so far beyond my mind at the time.
    Now...I'm sitting here marveling at it again and True Detective, not for the violence or the gruesome nature of the content, but rather because both are somehow willing to acknowledge that the human purpose is truly to be a light in the midst of darkness. You, sir, challenge me to not just be a passive, entertained, observer but instead to be a sort of sub-plot to the story itself: one who has a character arc that also plays out during the story structure and does not leave unchanged, but challenged, if not altered by the conclusions the story poses.
    ...I will perhaps take a lot of heat from the YT community for this but I have to say it...I have been rather manic about a passage in the Bible...Genesis 1:2. And the earth was without form (purpose) and it was void (without any life), and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the waters, and God said, "Let there be light", and there was light. That last scene in True Detective...Light and Darkness...I have a lot to ponder. Thank you, thank you, thank you. You have a new subscriber.

  • @evanryan6582
    @evanryan6582 7 років тому +4

    I love the longer video. I don't care if it takes longer to make and will never be critical about that, the more in depth look at it that provides more details is definitely appreciated.

  • @annoyingkid48
    @annoyingkid48 5 років тому +4

    Watching your videos, the way you incorporate the stuff about how to structure characters and character flaws makes it so much easier for me to write as an aspiring author. After doing countless short stories, I’m finally getting around to the gritty actual-work-things with my baby of a novel, and having rules to work off of makes it infinitely easier to get my ideas down on paper.

  • @dikshitchaudhary9114
    @dikshitchaudhary9114 4 роки тому +1

    This video is so well crafted. No matter how many times I watch TD and Se7en, I can't get enough of it.

  • @amberdent651
    @amberdent651 7 років тому +2

    I'm really impressed with not only the quality behind these videos, but the obvious love of film you have that is immediately on display. As someone who enjoys exploring themes and lessons and journeys through not only film but other fictional media, it's great to see someone that finds a lot of the same things in cinema and wants a lot of the same things in cinema. I've already subscribed to this great channel and can't wait for more content.

  • @ScarlettAlexandraS
    @ScarlettAlexandraS 7 років тому +6

    True Detective season 1 was an amazing show!!!! Couldn't get enough! Another awesome video! Thanks Michael!

  • @vincenttavani6380
    @vincenttavani6380 7 років тому +3

    Hey man, you're doing a great job digging into the real substance of the stories that films tell. Watching your essays makes me want to grow as a person as well as a storyteller.

  • @nighttray1489
    @nighttray1489 7 років тому +11

    Awesome. I've always wanted you to do something with the first season of True Detective.

  • @NotSoSuperheroProd
    @NotSoSuperheroProd 7 років тому +1

    There are 11 people that need to reassess their lives. Why would you Thumbs Down this video? THIS WAS GOLD! Congrats on one year of making kick-ass, intelligent, and insightful videos. Keep it up!

  • @noahbamberg8838
    @noahbamberg8838 3 роки тому +1

    You the real mvp for putting Korn as background music

  • @BadassRandomness
    @BadassRandomness 7 років тому +3

    My goal is to make a movie so good, that Lessons from the Screenplay makes a analysis of it.
    That is my dream

  • @maxguillen8135
    @maxguillen8135 5 років тому +3

    I'm so glad I found this video. 2 of my favorite stories in one video. Well done.

  • @gastonperazzo4836
    @gastonperazzo4836 6 років тому +8

    As a fan of Cinema in general, and a particular fan of True Detective S01, watching your video made me feel really stupid. More that half of the things your mention in your analysis I didn't see them nor I linked them, and after watching this I kind of felt that I was too obvious to miss. That is, in mi opinion, what makes this and all of your videos so great... the fact that you can show us a deepest and thorough exam of something that we might've seen plenty of times.
    Keep it up. Nothing like getting baffled with new sights of old thinks we love.

  • @Jmctt926
    @Jmctt926 4 роки тому +2

    I’m happy UA-cam’s algorithm recommended your videos, it’s given me inspiration to write again

  • @HerrRydebrink
    @HerrRydebrink 5 років тому +1

    One of few 17 minute videos I enjoyed throughout. Amazing work man. Not only the analysis but the way that it was presented. Perfection. Keep it up!

  • @zaklot101
    @zaklot101 7 років тому +28

    I would say that Crime and Punishment (i know i know Its a novel and not a screenplay) is somewhat similar to these movies. With the only difference being that the main character in CandP is both the protagonist and the villain.

    • @LessonsfromtheScreenplay
      @LessonsfromtheScreenplay  7 років тому +2

      Interesting! I've never read it, but I probably should.

    • @joaoluizsn
      @joaoluizsn 6 років тому

      Lessons from the Screenplay omg, yes! And definitely play Silent Hill 2 after that. If you don’t have the time or will, just watch RagnarRox video on it

    • @borysvengerov3398
      @borysvengerov3398 3 роки тому

      Dostoevsky definitely has that pessimistic and fatalistic vibe, nicely spotted.

  • @SayMy_User_Name
    @SayMy_User_Name 5 років тому +11

    “Nah, it’s a little too late in the game to get started on something like that I reckon, life’s barely long enough to get good at one thing”

  • @rohan225-u1g
    @rohan225-u1g 7 років тому +5

    You, every frame a painting and nerdwriter are my favourite channels right now!!!

    • @LessonsfromtheScreenplay
      @LessonsfromtheScreenplay  7 років тому +1

      In good company!

    • @beeaveragegaming3482
      @beeaveragegaming3482 7 років тому +1

      Rajat Swami right!!?? they are constantly who i go towards for inspiration for film :)

    • @rohan225-u1g
      @rohan225-u1g 7 років тому +2

      Courtney Heath I know!!! he could have done the analysis by taking just one; either true detective or seven and that could have been great too. But he decided to draw a parallel which is taking one more step forward.

  • @madisonjackson4293
    @madisonjackson4293 7 років тому +1

    I don't often comment on youtube videos but I would really like you to know just how incredible I find your channel. The insight and seemingly effortless understanding you have of such complex screenplays is astounding, and the fact that you take the time to communicate these insights and ideas to others makes me respect you more than I already would. As an aspiring screenwriter, you never fail to motivate me with your videos to not only keep writing but to keep improving. Thank you so much, and keep up the amazing work!

  • @axelle2075
    @axelle2075 Рік тому

    Wow.. this is one of my favorite video essay, ever. As a optimist, I am also obsessed with movies or series portraying the atrocity of human beings, for the exact same reasons. You compared 2 of my favorite things ever, 2 of the most devastating creations ever made, and you did it with such an eloquant and powerful voice. I am in awe with what I just watched.

  • @tidepride86
    @tidepride86 7 років тому +3

    True Detective season 1: Best show to have graced the small screen.

  • @iv0rysh0es39
    @iv0rysh0es39 7 років тому +9

    Along with the themes of darkness in humanity and existential crisis I highly recommend delving into Korean cinema!
    - Oldboy
    - I Saw the Devil
    - The Man From Nowhere

  • @shishkinmax
    @shishkinmax 7 років тому +3

    Two of my favourites stories of all time. Thank you for your work sir

  • @stainie
    @stainie 7 років тому

    This is probably my favourite video on this channel so far. I pretty much relived emotions from first times seeing Seven and True Detective. Thank you for your effort Michael, you are serving as great inspiration to young writers.

  • @JamesTAbernathy
    @JamesTAbernathy 7 років тому

    THIS. This video, if any I have seen so far, perfectly explains why I write stories and why I think stories are important.

  • @manasmohapatra7847
    @manasmohapatra7847 7 років тому +4

    As always, it's a delight to see your videos. I believe you will love the movie - Memories of Murder. It's more like Zodiac, but you can see vibes of the movie in Se7en and True Detective as well.

  • @generalmortars9490
    @generalmortars9490 5 років тому +6

    That last dialogue?
    "Once, there was only dark."
    It's straight out of Alan Moore's Top Ten comic.

  • @TheMildlyMotivatedGuy
    @TheMildlyMotivatedGuy 7 років тому +4

    Man, this was one of your best. Truly.
    "And struggling with the pain of losing his child, Chole has managed to twist this loss into something he's grateful for. And in order to feel like his child was spared from the burden of existence, one has to believe that existence is a burden." This part gave me goosebumps.

  • @jonmiles8091
    @jonmiles8091 3 роки тому +1

    Having the protagonist come face to face with an extreme version of themselves is a way to force them to re-evaluate their beliefs - is perhaps one of the best pieces of film commentary forever. It reminds me of critics mocking Trudeau until he proved them wrong by making 400 blows after being a critic. Good show.

  • @KateHedgehog57
    @KateHedgehog57 7 років тому

    Your videos are unbelievably well done. Even down to how soft your voice is so that the viewer can focus on what is happening and what you're saying at the same time without being overwhelmed. I am attempting to write novels and I find that watching your videos helps me with formulating plots for them and working through development. Thank you for making your videos, I deeply enjoy them.

  • @Drudenfusz
    @Drudenfusz 7 років тому +4

    I am not so much into audiobook, so I ordered the book directly. By the way, K.M. Weiland has her own UA-cam channel which I also been subscribed to for some time, but it took this channel here to finally get that book!

  • @THEARCHITECT801
    @THEARCHITECT801 5 років тому +3

    Brother, I've already watched this and (recently) finished true detective season 3, as well as season one, this is even more impactful, than before. Love it! I believe you'd do a great job at breaking down True Detective season 3 for certain. Of this I'm quite confident. If of course, you're even wanting to, haha. Regardless though, been subscribed for some time now, keep it up!

  • @polloyopa
    @polloyopa 7 років тому +3

    This was amazing! I second the comment that said you should do the "Before..." trilogy.

  • @ChrisM-bn5vr
    @ChrisM-bn5vr 7 років тому

    The first season of true detective was one of the greatest pieces of film I've ever seen. I also remember after watching Se7en for the first time when I was 15 thinking it was the greatest film I've ever seen. Thanks for connecting the dots with this video.

  • @holleighschoors1765
    @holleighschoors1765 5 років тому

    I just finished watching the first season of True Detective and was just telling a friend how it reminded me of Seven. I don’t think I consciously knew the reasons why, but this nailed it. Brilliant video, thank you.

  • @jackr_4382
    @jackr_4382 3 роки тому +18

    Without Se7en this show and other movies would have never existed... that's why Se7en is probably one of the most important movies ever made...

  • @DomzoD
    @DomzoD 7 років тому +417

    Personally, I prefer you to Nerdwriter, mainly because I love movies, but also I feel Nerdwriter tries too hard to sound "smart" or "intellectual" as a substitute for real explanation (or maybe I'm just dumb), but you guys both make great videos; I just think yours are much better.

    • @LessonsfromtheScreenplay
      @LessonsfromtheScreenplay  7 років тому +100

      I appreciate the kind words. I think we both have our own styles that work for the kinds of videos we make. It's certainly good company to be in.

    • @Peanutjoepap24
      @Peanutjoepap24 7 років тому +50

      Domzo D. Domzo D. Nerdwriter can do some great stuff but I also find him more than a little pretentious. It seems to me that for him something is either a masterpiece from on high or compete dismissible garbage with no in between. I don't much care for that mentality.

    • @robert3333
      @robert3333 7 років тому +84

      If you don't already know them I'd recommend Every Frame a Painting and Now You See It.
      Not focused on screenplays but more on the art of movies in general.

    • @Peanutjoepap24
      @Peanutjoepap24 7 років тому +9

      Mr0strich Seconded. Love those guys.

    • @getthepapersgetthepapers
      @getthepapersgetthepapers 7 років тому +34

      Channel Criswell too. Really well-thought out and erudite and his accent is dope.

  • @ManSeekingMeaning
    @ManSeekingMeaning 7 років тому +11

    Saw one of my favorite channels post about two of my FAVORITE inspirations.. Fuck. Yes.

  • @themasviedude
    @themasviedude 7 років тому +1

    It's a real treat to see a LFTS video in the subscription feed. I need to watch it immediately.

  • @dviproductions3493
    @dviproductions3493 6 років тому

    You're one of the only UA-cam channels that make video essays, teaching information that I can actually use in my own work, whilst providing examples and still being interesting at the same time. Keep it up!

  • @biffman6
    @biffman6 6 років тому +90

    what's in the baaaaax

    • @Scroolewse
      @Scroolewse 3 роки тому

      God that line fucking kills me. Brad Pitt needs to do more good movies.

    • @Scroolewse
      @Scroolewse 3 роки тому

      God that line fucking kills me. Brad Pitt needs to do more good movies.

  • @richardknox7354
    @richardknox7354 7 років тому +13

    cohle says 'what the fucks that Nietzsche' to ledoux because of the 'you'll do this again line' because of the eternal recurrence theme, but Nietzsche only meant it as a way to live your life well, live it as if you'll re do everything again and again and again not really as a metaphysical belief more as thought experiment
    By the way brilliant stuff, binge watched near all your vids, well done..........

  • @eminems99
    @eminems99 7 років тому +133

    Can you do Westworld next ........???
    love your videos

    • @LessonsfromtheScreenplay
      @LessonsfromtheScreenplay  7 років тому +78

      I'd love to...after this video I'm going to take a break from tackling multi-episode, hour-long dramas for awhile....but will probably come back to it later!

    • @eminems99
      @eminems99 7 років тому +17

      Sure thing , good luck

    • @realrecognisereviews
      @realrecognisereviews 7 років тому +8

      Oh dam I was just going to recommend Fargo or Mr Robot after seeing this lol. Well still looking forward to more content !

    • @intheairex
      @intheairex 7 років тому

      Aaron Nichols Actually, isn't Mr. Robot's third season soon? Wow this year went by fast.

  • @mtl199813
    @mtl199813 7 років тому

    Fantastic video, I'm 17 and I love writing, but screenplays have always been super intimidating to me. Thanks for breaking things down and really helping me to see the true value in a well written screenplay.

    • @LessonsfromtheScreenplay
      @LessonsfromtheScreenplay  7 років тому +1

      My pleasure! They can be intimidating, but I think that just means you should go try to conquer them. Best way to make them less intimidating ;)

  • @m.alpertortop2666
    @m.alpertortop2666 6 років тому

    I feel the same with you about True Detective, it's my favourite thing to watch and this is my favourite thing to watch about True Detective. Thank you!

  • @jonathanmulondo9206
    @jonathanmulondo9206 7 років тому +254

    This channel along with Nerdwriter have become my favorite 🎥 based UA-cam channels

    • @LessonsfromtheScreenplay
      @LessonsfromtheScreenplay  7 років тому +9

      Awesome!

    • @lilmayoslilmanager7125
      @lilmayoslilmanager7125 7 років тому +37

      try out channel criswell, every frame a painting and now you see it.... i would rank them all above nerdwriter and about equal with LFTS

    • @isaacninan5053
      @isaacninan5053 7 років тому +2

      Amen to that, nobody else quite does it like them

    • @pascalcosta2614
      @pascalcosta2614 7 років тому +30

      Jonathan Mulondo LFTS>>>>>>>Nerdwriter

    • @smartwater598
      @smartwater598 7 років тому +5

      LIL MAYO's LIL MANAGER criswell is too pretentious he tries way too hard to find criticism and cringe accent

  • @seen921
    @seen921 7 років тому +9

    Two all-time favorites. Seven never lets go of your throat and I doubt it would have been a master class movie with the alternate "Hollywood" ending. Losing all it had built in two hours with a weak-kneed ending. We need more Seven's. And True Detective was a nice slow burn. That's why HBO and Showtime are so popular because shows like this can evolve these philosophies and themes.Thanks for this. Keep up the good work.

  • @jeronimotamayolopera4834
    @jeronimotamayolopera4834 5 років тому +7

    "The world is a fine place, and worth fighting for". I agree with both parts.

    • @thefilmeffect6089
      @thefilmeffect6089 4 роки тому +1

      The world is a fine place......before life began.

  • @shikshaupadhyay2004
    @shikshaupadhyay2004 7 років тому

    Just finished binge watching True Detective so that I could see this video. You do a lovely job at breaking down screenplays. I absolutely love it.

  • @shahriarshadab2576
    @shahriarshadab2576 5 років тому +1

    i can't overstate enough how much your videos inspire me and get me writing.