Thanks Keef. You've done Adelaide proud & made an almost perfect pie floater. The only things missing are the pie should be upside down, you should be slurring your words and it should be 2 AM. Fourecks (four X or XXXX) is a brand of beer from Queensland. Terry definitely did his research for the book.
Hi Keef, I remember seeing Rick Stein have a pie floater on one of his shows years ago and that inspired me to try it. I just get a tin of mushy peas and add some water and a teaspoon of mint sauce for the “soup” and drop in a Pukka steak & kidney pie or even a Ginsters pasty 😉 Great comfort food Thank you for sharing 👍🏻
I love watching your channel Keef!...I mostly love the "let's make it up as we go along" approach. Recipes are never scripted (peas from pan, to pressure cooker with added frozen peas to make it green I'm sure was never in the script!!) When Keef says he needs pastry, it's either Hot water crust or ummm, hot water crust!!! I get the feeling that is your favourite to make, because of the simplicity!! Anyway, was that soup really soup consistency, because it looked more like mushy peas consistency!! I am sure it was delicious though.. Keef, have you eaten biscoff biscuits? Theybare delicious, and would love to see you make them (think they might be called speculoos or something similar)
Re: pastry - I don't always use HWP - I've used shortcrust for a change in quite a few videos. The soup consistency, yes it was too thick by the time it got to taste test. Biscoff, yes you sometimes get them with a coffee in some cafes. They are nice, but I don't think I'll be making them.
@@Keefcooks thanks for the reply.. re:pastry, I remember you making shortcrust some time ago but in the more recent videos (the ones I have watched at least) appear to be mainly HWC.. by the way, can I use dripping instead if lard in shortcrust pastry? Picked up the wrong pack in supermarket 🙃 😑? Greetings!
Two pie carts do operate temporarily outside Norwood Oval on football game days and the casino when football games are played at Adelaide Oval, but permanent late night pie carts in and around Adelaide have been a thing of the past since 2011.
I definitely have to try making the meat pie floater. If nothing else, then to check if Sam Vimes' and Rincewinds reaction to it was appropriate. Better than Rincewinds "beer soup" I'd wager... I always thought that was Vegemite though I never tasted either :D
Yes, Rincewind's beer soup was him reverse engineering Vegemite. It's nice - if you like Marmite you'll defo like it although it does taste a bit different.
First the magic knife, then time travel, then changing the laws of physics! At the 3min (ish) point, you will see how Keef has slowed down the rate of acceleration due to gravity. I don't know how he does it, I'm just glad he uses his powers for Good.
Those dog's eyes look great, Keef! It really is an Adelaide thing, the floater. But here in Sydney we occasionally make it if we have some Pea & Ham soup on hand and we're hungry. The pea & ham soup uses the mirepoix and a ham hock - basically a cured pork knuckle - and about 500 gm of unsoaked green split peas. All cooked together until the peas are mushy, when the hock is removed, the meat put back in the soup and the bone & skin discarded. The ham gives it a lovely smoky flavour and a real gelatinous quality. It needs pepper, but the hock provides salt. Apart from that, a ladle of soup, a dog's eye and a squirt of dead horse! Our dead horse (sauce) is almost identical to ketchup, but not quite as sweet. The dog's eye (pie) is usually a chunky beef or beef & mushroom bought from the local bakery, it's too fiddly to do our own. It's all about the soup, but with a bulking agent - the dog's eye.
My son had some in Sydney. He describes the soup as a kind of (but not quite) liquid NE England pease pudding, with a mince pie inverted and submerged in it. One of the things he most misses about Australia. I've tried to make them for him a few times, but haven't quite got there yet, apparently.
Keef, you'll have just received a £15 "thank you" donation to your Yorkshire Beer fund 🍻. You don’t appear to have an email address, and I'm not sure if the PayPal donation system will pass on my message. Anyhow, a big Thank You and enjoy the beer or whatever you and Mrs Cooks prefer. It always brings a smile to my face seeing you have posted a new foodie video. Rick Bear
Looks good. Interesting combination. I’ve only ever seen split peas for sale here in the US and that is what I normally use for pea soup but would love to try those big whole peas. Your meat filling looks scrumptious. Tell Mre. Keef that her presence was missed.
😅get drunk have a pie floater😂. Thanks for showing how to make. It was interesting. I'm glad you liked it. I liked it once when pregnant and tried it after but didn't like it. So maybe you need to be drunk or pregnant to like it.😂. Ok maybe not. But is an acquired taste.😊
Hehehe "floater" My old man also loves Terry Pratchett Don't you ever eat lentils Keef? I could live in Tasmania, I think the heat elsewhere in Australia would kill me in a few summers.
@@Keefcooks I figured because you seem to eat pretty local / traditional for your area, that you did, because lentils grow in the cold just as well as peas.
It's pie n paes staple around my area of Yorkshire, but you can get rid of ketchup and add some mint sauce for me....yummo...also just use batchelors steeped paes with the bicarb coin....love the fact the Aussies think they made the meat pie omg.....same as patties in West Indies all British recipes..
Its either a Floater or Pie Floater, not a meat pie floater. lol It has to be upside to be traditional and the reason is probably why, as the top doesn't slip around on the plate when you dig into the bottom of the pie with a spoon and the bottom of the pie is softer. Secondly, you put the pie in first and then add the pea soup.
Yeah so my title is to do with search engine optimisation. I put the pie in the right side up and didn't drench it in peas because it makes a better photo. You have to compromise sometimes! 😀
@@Keefcooks I understand why you did that, I was just explaining why it's upside down in the bowl and that you would put the pie in first as being traditional. lmao I could say more things since I ran the last pie cart in Adelaide. lmaooo
@@Keefcooks Good research Keef 👍. Yes they have never contained chicken ! There were lots of "Chicks" (women) on most the old advertising banners, maybe that had something to do with the naming ? The pastry is no less than say 4mm thick and they taste great ! I am certain that a popular Woolworths store I buy mine from air fry them. If I could I would send you some to try. Keep up the excellent work mate 🦘
Hi Keef, I'm from Barnsley and my wife is from Belize Central America. Their everyday dish is rice and beans, stewed chicken, potato salad and fried plantain. Do you think you could try to make it ? Regards, Ian and Charla.
@@bigsteve9291 strange. I know what link you're referring to, but UA-cam has changed and I'm not seeing the page where the author puts links anymore. They've added lots of new features, but the page containing hyperlinks is no longer showing on my smartphone.
It is wonderful to see such happy imperfections in your cooking. I miss Mrs Keefs judgement but you can see that it will be tasty. Hopefully you will be feeding her with feet up in front of the Telly and maybe some drinking embrocation. :-) I prefer Daddies Brown Sauce. I have Ketchup and it lasts a long time through non-use. From my childhood I remember hat a (probably) pound of peas came with a round white tablet in the bag which I assume is the BiCarb you used. They were handsome Pies I need to make another batch myself.
I remember buying boxes of dried peas hat came with a cube of soda in the box. Not something we ate at home but we bought them at shop near school to use in pea shooters. This was early 70s
You would be right in that Heinz tomato ketchup isn’t much different to the Heinz Big Red tomato sauce and other similar tomato sauces we use in Australia like Rosella, Fountain or quite a few others except that ketchup is usually thicker and there is a bit more vinegar in it giving a stronger tang to the sauce which isn’t for everyone.
I've never been to Australia, but my son worked there for a while. He insists one of the great food experiences of his life was a 'floater' eaten within sight of Sydney Opera House.
Hi Keef, I have mini spring-release cake tins that would be ideal size for individual pies. Do you think I would be able to use raw pastry for the base (steak and kidney) or do you think I would need to pre-bake the base before hand? Many thanks, David 🙏
Please, convey all our Best Wishes to Mrs Keef! As long as she is working, everything is fine and dandy,but we miss her bubbly peronality! Keep well, both of you!
A great video there Keef, and I love the references to Discworld. Pie looked grand and it would’ve been a sin to put it in upside down. That said, would it be upside down in the antipodes? Enjoyed. Will the vinegar be a regular addition?
I can’t buy marrowfat peas in the supermarket here in Florida but I have a stash I brought home from a visit. ❤️ I can buy dried split peas and think they would make a good substitute.👍🏼 Pies are so good and I love this recipe❤️
I'm in Maryland. I did some research and the equivalent to marrowfat peas are dried, whole green peas. At my local international grocery store, they have the Goya and Rani brands.
@@brendarigdonsbrensden.8350 I followed Keef's previous recipe for mushy peas. I was skeptical because I'm used to dried peas as soup made with ham bones, onion, carrot, celery, etc. and I didn't think mushy peas would be good. But I was wrong! It's very good, especially with fried food or as a side dish with roast and mashed potatoes. Now I make sure when I go to the international grocery store I buy a bag or two.
Sorry. I'll never understand the appeal of mushy peas... or pea soup (ertwen soep in NL)... Great pie, though. Isn't tomato ketchup in Oz called dead horse ?( red sauce?.... from Gregs Kitchen).
My Grandfather first introduced me in the 1960's to a Scotch Pie in a tin of Lentil or Pee & Ham soup but without the ketchup, here in Scotland. I still love a Scotch Pie in soup, although my friends think it is a bit strange and have never tried it, or even heard of anyone else doing it, it's their loss. So thanks for the video, it is nice to know other people also eat a pie this way, even if it has to be from the other side of the world.
Thanks Keef. You've done Adelaide proud & made an almost perfect pie floater. The only things missing are the pie should be upside down, you should be slurring your words and it should be 2 AM. Fourecks (four X or XXXX) is a brand of beer from Queensland. Terry definitely did his research for the book.
Well Castlemaine XXXX was quite popular back in the day.
We call it pie and mushy peas up here in the North of England!
We really don't Joanna. Proper mushy peas are just that - no onion, carrot, celery or stock. Just marrowfat peas boiled down to mush. 😀
VG about the 2am and slurring! LOL! That's Adelaide! I was carried out of there, last time....
Hi Keef, I remember seeing Rick Stein have a pie floater on one of his shows years ago and that inspired me to try it.
I just get a tin of mushy peas and add some water and a teaspoon of mint sauce for the “soup” and drop in a Pukka steak & kidney pie or even a Ginsters pasty 😉
Great comfort food
Thank you for sharing 👍🏻
I love watching your channel Keef!...I mostly love the "let's make it up as we go along" approach. Recipes are never scripted (peas from pan, to pressure cooker with added frozen peas to make it green I'm sure was never in the script!!)
When Keef says he needs pastry, it's either Hot water crust or ummm, hot water crust!!! I get the feeling that is your favourite to make, because of the simplicity!!
Anyway, was that soup really soup consistency, because it looked more like mushy peas consistency!! I am sure it was delicious though..
Keef, have you eaten biscoff biscuits? Theybare delicious, and would love to see you make them (think they might be called speculoos or something similar)
Re: pastry - I don't always use HWP - I've used shortcrust for a change in quite a few videos. The soup consistency, yes it was too thick by the time it got to taste test. Biscoff, yes you sometimes get them with a coffee in some cafes. They are nice, but I don't think I'll be making them.
@@Keefcooks thanks for the reply.. re:pastry, I remember you making shortcrust some time ago but in the more recent videos (the ones I have watched at least) appear to be mainly HWC.. by the way, can I use dripping instead if lard in shortcrust pastry? Picked up the wrong pack in supermarket 🙃 😑?
Greetings!
Hi Keef and Mrs Keef. I'm also a huge fan of Terry Pratchett and pies so it's a huge thumbs up for this one 👍 😀
The pie cart is outside Adelaide train station and casino. A pie floater is something to be tried at least once.
I'm on my way!
Two pie carts do operate temporarily outside Norwood Oval on football game days and the casino when football games are played at Adelaide Oval, but permanent late night pie carts in and around Adelaide have been a thing of the past since 2011.
@@neilfromdownunder9204 Mourning the loss of an SA icon.
@@neilfromdownunder9204 indeed. very sad... I love a late night yiros, but the floater always worked better as a late night 'remedy'.
You have just made Snert. (Thick Dutch pea soup.) Love the look of the pies Yummmmmm.
Snert - I wish I'd known that before making this video!
I definitely have to try making the meat pie floater. If nothing else, then to check if Sam Vimes' and Rincewinds reaction to it was appropriate. Better than Rincewinds "beer soup" I'd wager... I always thought that was Vegemite though I never tasted either :D
Yes, Rincewind's beer soup was him reverse engineering Vegemite. It's nice - if you like Marmite you'll defo like it although it does taste a bit different.
Brings back warm memories of the year I spent in the South Australia Outback. We Americans loved those pie floaters....
Worst thing about cooking with mince? It clumps! I use a, plastic, potato masher to break the clumps up. Works very well.
Now that looks great will be trying that
As a South Australian, let me tell you that it is great.
First the magic knife, then time travel, then changing the laws of physics! At the 3min (ish) point, you will see how Keef has slowed down the rate of acceleration due to gravity. I don't know how he does it, I'm just glad he uses his powers for Good.
LMOA
Nice one cobber
Do they have pie and mash shops in Australia?
Decent pies shops do peas, ie pea mash
Those dog's eyes look great, Keef!
It really is an Adelaide thing, the floater. But here in Sydney we occasionally make it if we have some Pea & Ham soup on hand and we're hungry. The pea & ham soup uses the mirepoix and a ham hock - basically a cured pork knuckle - and about 500 gm of unsoaked green split peas. All cooked together until the peas are mushy, when the hock is removed, the meat put back in the soup and the bone & skin discarded. The ham gives it a lovely smoky flavour and a real gelatinous quality. It needs pepper, but the hock provides salt.
Apart from that, a ladle of soup, a dog's eye and a squirt of dead horse! Our dead horse (sauce) is almost identical to ketchup, but not quite as sweet. The dog's eye (pie) is usually a chunky beef or beef & mushroom bought from the local bakery, it's too fiddly to do our own. It's all about the soup, but with a bulking agent - the dog's eye.
Cheers Scooter!
My son had some in Sydney. He describes the soup as a kind of (but not quite) liquid NE England pease pudding, with a mince pie inverted and submerged in it. One of the things he most misses about Australia.
I've tried to make them for him a few times, but haven't quite got there yet, apparently.
Hurray! Great one, Keef 👍
Terry Pratchett and Keef forever
Thank you,
RICK BEAR
Keef, you'll have just received a £15 "thank you" donation to your Yorkshire Beer fund 🍻. You don’t appear to have an email address, and I'm not sure if the PayPal donation system will pass on my message. Anyhow, a big Thank You and enjoy the beer or whatever you and Mrs Cooks prefer. It always brings a smile to my face seeing you have posted a new foodie video.
Rick Bear
Thanks Rick - donation and message received, much appreciated!
@@Keefcooks well deserved, my Yorkshire friend. Enjoy 🍻
Rick
My quick version is add a small tin of Marrowfat peas to leftover onion gravy & reheat , add Pie. Best WFH lunch ever
Brilliant 👏
Sounds good!
Yum!
Sounds right up my street.
That pie looks delicious Keef, but I`d have the soup separate with some smoked bacon chopped in it with a nice crusty roll.
You must be posh 😀
Fresh water 🧐🧐🧐 lol 😂
Best with Coopers Pale Ale!! [aka Coopers Soup due to the sediment...]
Sounds like something people from wigan would eat.
Or course. And Chorley, and Bolton and Preston and Leeds and Manchester etc.
That ketchup is quite the squiter 🤣
Looks good. Interesting combination. I’ve only ever seen split peas for sale here in the US and that is what I normally use for pea soup but would love to try those big whole peas. Your meat filling looks scrumptious. Tell Mre. Keef that her presence was missed.
Rincewind would've had a tinny of Funnel-web with his meat pie floater. Otherwise, well done. GNU Sir Terry.
GNU indeed.
Fabulous, used to live in Adelaide, miss the pie floaters!
This is what I love about keefcooks if he makes a mistake he admits it and does not edit the footage, the man is a star.
I must admit I almost Remade the pea soup part of this but just didn't have time.
😅get drunk have a pie floater😂. Thanks for showing how to make. It was interesting. I'm glad you liked it. I liked it once when pregnant and tried it after but didn't like it. So maybe you need to be drunk or pregnant to like it.😂. Ok maybe not. But is an acquired taste.😊
Hehehe "floater"
My old man also loves Terry Pratchett
Don't you ever eat lentils Keef?
I could live in Tasmania, I think the heat elsewhere in Australia would kill me in a few summers.
I do sometimes eat lentils - I do a mean lentil soup.
@@Keefcooks I figured because you seem to eat pretty local / traditional for your area, that you did, because lentils grow in the cold just as well as peas.
It's pie n paes staple around my area of Yorkshire, but you can get rid of ketchup and add some mint sauce for me....yummo...also just use batchelors steeped paes with the bicarb coin....love the fact the Aussies think they made the meat pie omg.....same as patties in West Indies all British recipes..
Batchelors, that's where I worked one summer.
I get the impression this guy likes pies
Oh, he does!
Yummo! I ....LOVE pie floaters!
Cheat method: heat a can of pea & ham soup, heat a pie... drop pie into soup! Consume!
Having worked in a real Chippy back in the 60's, the peas need to be soaked for 24hrs to get the right texture.
Sorry for Mrs. Keef being MIA. I miss the addition of her smile & her brand of sauce. Cheers, both!
HP Keef! Gotta be HP! Your pies came out beautifully, I'll definitely give this a go!
Its either a Floater or Pie Floater, not a meat pie floater. lol It has to be upside to be traditional and the reason is probably why, as the top doesn't slip around on the plate when you dig into the bottom of the pie with a spoon and the bottom of the pie is softer. Secondly, you put the pie in first and then add the pea soup.
Yeah so my title is to do with search engine optimisation. I put the pie in the right side up and didn't drench it in peas because it makes a better photo. You have to compromise sometimes! 😀
@@Keefcooks I understand why you did that, I was just explaining why it's upside down in the bowl and that you would put the pie in first as being traditional. lmao I could say more things since I ran the last pie cart in Adelaide. lmaooo
@@Mav_F Wow, why did you stop with the cart?
@@Keefcooks A few reasons and I don't want to say. Sorry But might start up again end of next year.
@@Mav_F Good luck!
That looks so tasty! I do love pea soup. I might have to try this. I think I have a can of marrowfat peas somewhere. Give my regards to Mrs KC.
This looks insanely delicious!
Josie "Egg Foo Yung" Lindstrom :)
Being in Australia i prefer mine with tomato sauce (ketchup i think you call it) 😄
Next up. A Chicko Roll in peas and gravy
Oh that looks a bit weird - and has never contained chicken!
@@Keefcooks Good research Keef 👍. Yes they have never contained chicken !
There were lots of "Chicks" (women) on most the old advertising banners, maybe that had something to do with the naming ?
The pastry is no less than say 4mm thick and they taste great !
I am certain that a popular Woolworths store I buy mine from air fry them.
If I could I would send you some to try. Keep up the excellent work mate 🦘
That pie looks really good , i would do brown sauce .
Keep up the great videos
I've never heard of that combination, but I thing it looks great. Cheers, Keef! ✌️
Hi Keef,
I'm from Barnsley and my wife is from Belize Central America. Their everyday dish is rice and beans, stewed chicken, potato salad and fried plantain. Do you think you could try to make it ?
Regards,
Ian and Charla.
I'm not sure I could do it justice without trying the real thing first!
Hi Keef
Where did you get your metal lattice cutter as I can only find the rubbish plastic ones that fall to bits after a couple of uses. Ta
Amazon prime the link is in the bottom of the video
@@bigsteve9291 strange. I know what link you're referring to, but UA-cam has changed and I'm not seeing the page where the author puts links anymore. They've added lots of new features, but the page containing hyperlinks is no longer showing on my smartphone.
Had this in Melbourne.
It is wonderful to see such happy imperfections in your cooking. I miss Mrs Keefs judgement but you can see that it will be tasty. Hopefully you will be feeding her with feet up in front of the Telly and maybe some drinking embrocation. :-)
I prefer Daddies Brown Sauce. I have Ketchup and it lasts a long time through non-use.
From my childhood I remember hat a (probably) pound of peas came with a round white tablet in the bag which I assume is the BiCarb you used.
They were handsome Pies I need to make another batch myself.
Yes, the round tablet was bicarb.
Will have to defo try these mmmmm
I remember buying boxes of dried peas hat came with a cube of soda in the box. Not something we ate at home but we bought them at shop near school to use in pea shooters. This was early 70s
Peas shooters! Blast from the past, I'd completely forgotten about those.
You Know your oinion s kev
Incredible. Was Adelaide colonised by Wiganers?
LOL - maybe it was!
Love a good pea soup.
Great comfort food
You would be right in that Heinz tomato ketchup isn’t much different to the Heinz Big Red tomato sauce and other similar tomato sauces we use in Australia like Rosella, Fountain or quite a few others except that ketchup is usually thicker and there is a bit more vinegar in it giving a stronger tang to the sauce which isn’t for everyone.
I've never been to Australia, but my son worked there for a while. He insists one of the great food experiences of his life was a 'floater' eaten within sight of Sydney Opera House.
Hi Keef, I have mini spring-release cake tins that would be ideal size for individual pies. Do you think I would be able to use raw pastry for the base (steak and kidney) or do you think I would need to pre-bake the base before hand? Many thanks, David 🙏
You don't need to pre-bake pastry if you're using a pre-cooked filling.
@@Keefcooks Thank you 🙏
Please, convey all our Best Wishes to Mrs Keef! As long as she is working, everything is fine and dandy,but we miss her bubbly peronality! Keep well, both of you!
She's very touched!
Beautiful Pies
No ketchup!
A great video there Keef, and I love the references to Discworld. Pie looked grand and it would’ve been a sin to put it in upside down. That said, would it be upside down in the antipodes? Enjoyed. Will the vinegar be a regular addition?
Vinegar in the pastry? I'm not entirely convinced TBH
I can’t buy marrowfat peas in the supermarket here in Florida but I have a stash I brought home from a visit. ❤️
I can buy dried split peas and think they would make a good substitute.👍🏼
Pies are so good and I love this recipe❤️
I'm in Maryland. I did some research and the equivalent to marrowfat peas are dried, whole green peas. At my local international grocery store, they have the Goya and Rani brands.
@@admirathoria0073 enjoy them with fish and chips 👍🏼❤️
@@brendarigdonsbrensden.8350 I followed Keef's previous recipe for mushy peas. I was skeptical because I'm used to dried peas as soup made with ham bones, onion, carrot, celery, etc. and I didn't think mushy peas would be good. But I was wrong! It's very good, especially with fried food or as a side dish with roast and mashed potatoes. Now I make sure when I go to the international grocery store I buy a bag or two.
@@admirathoria0073 oh heck yeah I grew up in the uk eating mushy peas mostly with Sunday dinners and meat pies as I don’t like seafood 🥴
Sorry. I'll never understand the appeal of mushy peas... or pea soup (ertwen soep in NL)... Great pie, though.
Isn't tomato ketchup in Oz called dead horse ?( red sauce?.... from Gregs Kitchen).
Rhyming slang. Dead horse sauce
My Grandfather first introduced me in the 1960's to a Scotch Pie in a tin of Lentil or Pee & Ham soup but without the ketchup, here in Scotland. I still love a Scotch Pie in soup, although my friends think it is a bit strange and have never tried it, or even heard of anyone else doing it, it's their loss. So thanks for the video, it is nice to know other people also eat a pie this way, even if it has to be from the other side of the world.