Gus painted my plane earlier this year. I have had so much positive feedback in light of their amazing work. Elisabeth answers all calls and shares progress pics in "google drive" files for future reference should you sell and buyers question corrosion. Not gonna steal your thunder, but I know it will look amazing as you guys are willing to take chances on designs that most won't. Gus is a true professional that knows his business. He is not satisfied until you are.
It’s great having Owen in so many of your videos. But, what’s the status on the two of you getting your pilots license and taking control of the planes? 👍🏻👍🏻
Nice video and great topic, guys ! Please do as many videos and pictures during the repaint, it will definitely transform your Bonnie ! And do your pilot licenses, I want to see lots of videos on this, too !😉
Do the classic white grey black and silver that's on your thumbnail for todays video. Alternatively, you could just duplicate the Bonanza that Owen left in and add a Big red "B" on the vertical stabilizer. Remember the goal of the overall exterior aesthetic is to have the plane look like a luxury european car. Timeless and classic are the key words.
Love the content, I like a Big B (maybe a lighter B on a darker tail?). We’d love to see some more of your personal flying life/flight training update!
I have 1947 straight 35 v tail bonanza. Has magnesium flaps, ailerons and tail feathers. There was filaform corrosion. I researched the necessary materials and method of removing the corrosion, priming and painting. I git all primer and paint from Sherwin W aerospace division. The primer and paint is special for magnesium. You cannot use primer that is used for aluminum. I believe the paint I used, to be unique for magnesium, as well.
I'd go with not the lightest grey in that range you were thinking, somewhere in the midrange. The ocean blue was cool. Perhaps gold accent like on the other Bonanza but a little darker?? Double drop shadows on the reg numbers. Personally I'd loose the "B", never been a fan. Make sure you visit when their stripping. It's just so much fun haha.
As for the wing root seals. Check into Lopresti speed mods and or Knots 2 U to see if they have a wing root for more speed since you are taking them off for paint.
I understood theses were IFR training aircraft..I’m not especially concerned about the training hours if operated in AZ and maintained by a German Corp.; the issue with older birds often relates to effects of corrosion. I considered these aircraft when they were offered.
I like Jet Stream or Nordic Grey and Ocean Blue for paint colors with a 3D N-number. But, like the owner said I’m not paying the bill lol. And please please change that rotating beacon the old one is hideous. I can’t wait to see the end results!!
Big B for sure! and how about the new paintjob from the original new bonanza, like one in the picture and the first livery on the bonanza in the sim! Its like White, Red, and Black
To the person asking about stripper; you do NOT want to use any caustic, strong stripper, especially on magnesium control surfaces! I used a mild orange stripper from Lowes, Citrustrip gel. It takes a lot of elbow grease, using plastic scraper and razor blades (be careful). When sanding, do NOT sand river heads!
It is popular, but I’m not a fan of the big B…. If you are trying to identify the planes brand, I also suggest considering using the beech crest, potentially the B on one side and crest on the other.
Trying to find out exactly what paint stripper was used. Going to repaint our 1947 Bonanza 35A and need to find a good paint stripper that will work on and be safe for magnesium. And yes, definitely go with the big B!
This is cool. Perhaps a turb prob swap in the future with some plane. Seen one Cessna 207 converted with our local skydive club back in the days and it was something else. How is it with your own licenses?
G,day from Sydney Australia. I rather like: Sky blue over the nose cowling and tail. Aviation grey as striping Vagus gold line of checks from windshield to propeller. A sticker of a Hawaiian grass skirt dancer and national flag beside door hinge. Continues N number white. Red panel lighting over instruments. 🖌️🦉
I work with visualization so have a bit of experience picking colors but not for planes. Drawing on cars, if you see an intense green or red it's often a relatively dark color today, much darker than you might pick in a crayon yet when it's the full surface the eye just exposes up to see it as a full color again. So a somewhat dark grey might give it an intensity that allows reflections in glass and paint to show up more. I think a single color might look good and modern, all the waves and lines are perhaps more classic design sensibilities. Similarly keep the numbers simple. The big B might look good as the single deviation. If allowed the numbers could be a modest contrast, not full black. Might look more sophisticated as nuances. medium grey body and the numbers just a bit darker grey. without hurting legibility. If a single color metallic is about the same as multicolor non metallic I'd consider the metallic :) never mind maintenance, it'll be long gone by then :)
@@JRAviation He does nice work. I doubt it was my plane as Ron did it about 2.5 years ago. Let me know if you guys come out to CA as I''d love to see the final product.
I used to fly an S35 Bonanza that was painted light grey overall with red and black trim. Although different, that much gray on an airplane is rather overwhelming visually, and just doesn't "pop." Instead, it seems to blur or meld the lines of the airplane and always looks rather dull, no matter how high a gloss you polish it to. Also, having done air to air and formation with it, the large expanse of grey decreases its visibility to other aircraft, as it tends more to blend in with terrain or clouds in the background. Personally, I think any size B on the tail disrupts the visual flow of the airplane's beautiful design, and would not put it on the Bonanza. Wickenburg does absolutely beautiful paint work, probably one of the best aircraft paint shops in the country, and I'm sure you will be happy with the result. I am familiar with those ex-Lufthansa Bonanzas, though, and, while they received excellent maintenance, all of them are incredibly high time airframe which were used as primary trainers. The impact of that is limited marketability and value, which is why you were able to buy it at a seemingly low price. As an investment, it is highly unlikely that the cost of paint, avionics, etc will be recovered in the market due to the extremely high total time on the airplane. Just a word of advice from somebody involved in aviation for over 50 years. Consider your investments in personal enjoyment, but a return on investment is rather unlikely.
@James Nelson I agree with you. I think JR & Co have been riding around in too many gray cars. Gray cars used to be cool, but since gray became the default color of the auto industry, all you see is is this amorphous blob of bland gray cars going down the road. Same for airplanes sitting out on the ramp with those silly swirls the manufacturers think are so "insane." When the sun works on that paint job for a while, that airplane is gonna look dirtier and dirtier. There's a reason why airshow planes are painted red-or bright yellow. Because people like to look at bright colors. Who wants to look at an airplane that looks like their Honda Civic? But the kids are comfy with gray, because they're accustomed to it, so let them learn the hard way he truth of what you wrote. If you think that means I would keep the yellow, yes, that's what it means. So gray may be ok for cars, but it doesn't translate well to airplanes...and furthermore, what's wrong with the instruments the airplane has?
@@williamrmcintosh4343 Roger that. There is a LOT more surface area on an airplane than a car (spend a week or so polishing one if you don't believe me) and gray lusts blends all the lines. As to the avionics currently in the airplane, those currently installed are quite capable, and spending lots of money on new avionics won't significantly improve its utility, and, since Lufthansa sold those airplanes with total times of 28,000 to 30,000 hours, sinking large amounts of money into one is highly unlikely to return any increase in value of the airplane.
@@jamesnelson7415 28,000-30,000 hours? And they bought it sight unseen? Well, sorry, but that's a big "affirm" on no value added with the "insane paint job" and the glass. IMHO, they're just trying to apply the concept of flipping cars to airplanes. If not, why don't they get their flying licenses? They're good kids, gotta admire their love of airplanes, but they're gonna lose a lot of money on this one. I wonder if they made any money on that SR20?The best use for their money on this one might be airframe repair and maintenance (It's gotta need some) or just parting the airplane out and hopefully learning their lesson.
@@williamrmcintosh4343 Yes, and nearly all the time was as a primary trainer flying all day long over the Arizona desert (read turbulence) in an an initio airline pilot training program. They were bought new by Lufthansa training operation, and we're kept in service until it was no longer cost effective to continue trying to maintain them. The extreme length of service was due to Beech discontinuing production of the F33A and a lack of a suitable replacement which met Lufthansa's performance requirements. Although I like Bonanzas a great deal, I did not buy one of them when offered one a couple of years ago due to their extremely high time, even though the asking price was in the $30K range - just too much wear, tear and cumulative stress on such a high time airframe for me to have any comfort factor in it. I've been flying for nearly 50 years and have owned a bunch of airplanes, but that much time on an airframe is way too much, and I think nearly any experienced pilot and owner would be similarly inclined. I wish them luck, but they may have bitten off a bit too much in this instance, especially if flipping is in their plans.
@@jamesnelson7415 Yes, sir, quite so! I was simply stunned when you revealed how many hours these Lufthansa airframes had on them! Unbelievable! If we reduce the concept of an airplane to what it is, that is, a piece of metal that flies, we understand that this piece of metal with 20-30 k hours of flight simply cannot be the same piece of metal that emerged new from the factory, and probably is subject to molecular decomposition at the most basic atomic level...resulting in a strong probability to sudden and catastrophic failure of some key component, despite the most rigorous visual inspections or flux testing. The failure is likely to be major and complete. On one flight the metal is still intact...on the next flight it is not. Remember the Arrow III in Florida...People whine about Federal Regulations, but they cannot seem to regulate themselves to stop where common sense ends and avarice and poor judgment begins.
To change a plane colour in ur country does it needs somr documents after the paint has been changed or before.or just becoseu its ur personal item u can do whatever u want no rules . because in my country the is a rules that needs ro be followed after u change the colour.states are different
GlAd you are painting it; whatever you pick will be great. Just curious, did Owen and Matt part company over the attempted kidnapping or was that just utube BS ?
Loving the big B idea for sure!
All LED lights too
Paint the handle
Digging the double drop and so far your talk on color is on point!
Apollo gray looks good
Geez....what a great video. You have built so much suspense for me! See ya in the next one!
Gus painted my plane earlier this year. I have had so much positive feedback in light of their amazing work. Elisabeth answers all calls and shares progress pics in "google drive" files for future reference should you sell and buyers question corrosion. Not gonna steal your thunder, but I know it will look amazing as you guys are willing to take chances on designs that most won't. Gus is a true professional that knows his business. He is not satisfied until you are.
Gus is an artist! What a wealth of knowledge. You can tell the quality of his work.
Cobalt Blue to Steel Blue with the gray would look amazing...BIG B for sure!
Cobalt blue + Aviation gray makes the dream work. Book it. Huge B gang as well
Definitely big B, Exxon grey personally look the smoothest, with the ocean blue!
Awesome video, excited for the end result!!
Really enjoyed this video, and going over the paint process. Too many choices, but I’m sure it will look great when it’s done. Good luck! 👍🏻👍🏻
God damn I love the yellow.
The repaint will be exciting! Love the metallic paint on the exterior and definitely the big “B” on the tail. Have fun with this!
It’s great having Owen in so many of your videos. But, what’s the status on the two of you getting your pilots license and taking control of the planes? 👍🏻👍🏻
Nice video and great topic, guys ! Please do as many videos and pictures during the repaint, it will definitely transform your Bonnie !
And do your pilot licenses, I want to see lots of videos on this, too !😉
Do the classic white grey black and silver that's on your thumbnail for todays video. Alternatively, you could just duplicate the Bonanza that Owen left in and add a Big red "B" on the vertical stabilizer. Remember the goal of the overall exterior aesthetic is to have the plane look like a luxury european car. Timeless and classic are the key words.
Starry night with blue fantasy would look sweet!
Love the content, I like a Big B (maybe a lighter B on a darker tail?). We’d love to see some more of your personal flying life/flight training update!
Starry night grey, ocean blue, with metallic gold accents for example the Big B on the tail.
I like that 1970s yellow and blue.
I recommend whatever colors will give you the greatest resale value. Unless you are planning on keeping it for a very long time.
I have 1947 straight 35 v tail bonanza. Has magnesium flaps, ailerons and tail feathers. There was filaform corrosion. I researched the necessary materials and method of removing the corrosion, priming and painting. I git all primer and paint from Sherwin W aerospace division. The primer and paint is special for magnesium. You cannot use primer that is used for aluminum. I believe the paint I used, to be unique for magnesium, as well.
More talks with Gus explaining painting, please.
I cannot advise on paint, I like the yellow.
YO! Sweet Avidyne advertisement in AOPA Pilot. Good to see Evan in there too
Thank you!!!
Mid Night Purple 3
Yeeeessss!
Like the colors would like to see the process. Can't wait to see it all done
Definitely LED lights, love the chrome on the lights too.
I'd go with not the lightest grey in that range you were thinking, somewhere in the midrange. The ocean blue was cool. Perhaps gold accent like on the other Bonanza but a little darker?? Double drop shadows on the reg numbers. Personally I'd loose the "B", never been a fan. Make sure you visit when their stripping. It's just so much fun haha.
Can you tell me what the paint job costs? I have a F33A Bonanza as well and it will be needing a good paint job.
"Jet Stream" base, "Blue Fantasy" accent and Big B.
Jet Stream grey RV57 & Light rich blue RV18 It will be beautiful whatever color you pick 👍 Also big B
Aviation grey, coastal blue, double drop shadow. Big B
Gus is wearing an amazing shirt!
As for the wing root seals. Check into Lopresti speed mods and or Knots 2 U to see if they have a wing root for more speed since you are taking them off for paint.
Blue fantasy would be my pick
Big B, Midnight Blue Mist
I understood theses were IFR training aircraft..I’m not especially concerned about the training hours if operated in AZ and maintained by a German Corp.; the issue with older birds often relates to effects of corrosion. I considered these aircraft when they were offered.
I like Jet Stream or Nordic Grey and Ocean Blue for paint colors with a 3D N-number. But, like the owner said I’m not paying the bill lol. And please please change that rotating beacon the old one is hideous. I can’t wait to see the end results!!
Big B for sure! and how about the new paintjob from the original new bonanza, like one in the picture and the first livery on the bonanza in the sim! Its like White, Red, and Black
To the person asking about stripper; you do NOT want to use any caustic, strong stripper, especially on magnesium control surfaces! I used a mild orange stripper from Lowes, Citrustrip gel. It takes a lot of elbow grease, using plastic scraper and razor blades (be careful). When sanding, do NOT sand river heads!
Big B & thunderstorm grey
It is popular, but I’m not a fan of the big B…. If you are trying to identify the planes brand, I also suggest considering using the beech crest, potentially the B on one side and crest on the other.
Trying to find out exactly what paint stripper was used. Going to repaint our 1947 Bonanza 35A and need to find a good paint stripper that will work on and be safe for magnesium. And yes, definitely go with the big B!
Love the BIG B
This is cool. Perhaps a turb prob swap in the future with some plane. Seen one Cessna 207 converted with our local skydive club back in the days and it was something else.
How is it with your own licenses?
Dark Blue mist, Abbey grey accent, double shadow.
G,day from Sydney Australia.
I rather like:
Sky blue over the nose cowling and tail.
Aviation grey as striping
Vagus gold line of checks from windshield to propeller.
A sticker of a Hawaiian grass skirt dancer and national flag beside door hinge.
Continues N number white.
Red panel lighting over instruments.
🖌️🦉
FULL BLACK
I work with visualization so have a bit of experience picking colors but not for planes. Drawing on cars, if you see an intense green or red it's often a relatively dark color today, much darker than you might pick in a crayon yet when it's the full surface the eye just exposes up to see it as a full color again. So a somewhat dark grey might give it an intensity that allows reflections in glass and paint to show up more. I think a single color might look good and modern, all the waves and lines are perhaps more classic design sensibilities. Similarly keep the numbers simple. The big B might look good as the single deviation. If allowed the numbers could be a modest contrast, not full black. Might look more sophisticated as nuances. medium grey body and the numbers just a bit darker grey. without hurting legibility.
If a single color metallic is about the same as multicolor non metallic I'd consider the metallic :) never mind maintenance, it'll be long gone by then :)
The Virga blue is nice in them colours
I really like all the plane content. I know nothing about them though
Can't wait to see the final product. Is Ron going to do the interior like your other plane? He did mine and can't be happier.
Yes he is! We saw your interior being made, and it was beautiful!
@@JRAviation He does nice work. I doubt it was my plane as Ron did it about 2.5 years ago. Let me know if you guys come out to CA as I''d love to see the final product.
something retro, like a 70s brown van with yellow orange and black stripe
Jetstream base coat, cobalt blue and white trim
Big B, Apollo Grey, Coastal Blue
Ouuuu that’s a nice spec 👀
Gray base with navy main color and big B
Look at 1949 Cadillac French Gray. For your gray color
Apollo gray, ocean blue, and big b
Storm Grey!
I used to fly an S35 Bonanza that was painted light grey overall with red and black trim. Although different, that much gray on an airplane is rather overwhelming visually, and just doesn't "pop." Instead, it seems to blur or meld the lines of the airplane and always looks rather dull, no matter how high a gloss you polish it to. Also, having done air to air and formation with it, the large expanse of grey decreases its visibility to other aircraft, as it tends more to blend in with terrain or clouds in the background. Personally, I think any size B on the tail disrupts the visual flow of the airplane's beautiful design, and would not put it on the Bonanza. Wickenburg does absolutely beautiful paint work, probably one of the best aircraft paint shops in the country, and I'm sure you will be happy with the result. I am familiar with those ex-Lufthansa Bonanzas, though, and, while they received excellent maintenance, all of them are incredibly high time airframe which were used as primary trainers. The impact of that is limited marketability and value, which is why you were able to buy it at a seemingly low price. As an investment, it is highly unlikely that the cost of paint, avionics, etc will be recovered in the market due to the extremely high total time on the airplane. Just a word of advice from somebody involved in aviation for over 50 years. Consider your investments in personal enjoyment, but a return on investment is rather unlikely.
@James Nelson I agree with you. I think JR & Co have been riding around in too many gray cars. Gray cars used to be cool, but since gray became the default color of the auto industry, all you see is is this amorphous blob of bland gray cars going down the road. Same for airplanes sitting out on the ramp with those silly swirls the manufacturers think are so "insane." When the sun works on that paint job for a while, that airplane is gonna look dirtier and dirtier. There's a reason why airshow planes are painted red-or bright yellow. Because people like to look at bright colors. Who wants to look at an airplane that looks like their Honda Civic? But the kids are comfy with gray, because they're accustomed to it, so let them learn the hard way he truth of what you wrote. If you think that means I would keep the yellow, yes, that's what it means. So gray may be ok for cars, but it doesn't translate well to airplanes...and furthermore, what's wrong with the instruments the airplane has?
@@williamrmcintosh4343 Roger that. There is a LOT more surface area on an airplane than a car (spend a week or so polishing one if you don't believe me) and gray lusts blends all the lines. As to the avionics currently in the airplane, those currently installed are quite capable, and spending lots of money on new avionics won't significantly improve its utility, and, since Lufthansa sold those airplanes with total times of 28,000 to 30,000 hours, sinking large amounts of money into one is highly unlikely to return any increase in value of the airplane.
@@jamesnelson7415 28,000-30,000 hours? And they bought it sight unseen? Well, sorry, but that's a big "affirm" on no value added with the "insane paint job" and the glass. IMHO, they're just trying to apply the concept of flipping cars to airplanes. If not, why don't they get their flying licenses? They're good kids, gotta admire their love of airplanes, but they're gonna lose a lot of money on this one. I wonder if they made any money on that SR20?The best use for their money on this one might be airframe repair and maintenance (It's gotta need some) or just parting the airplane out and hopefully learning their lesson.
@@williamrmcintosh4343 Yes, and nearly all the time was as a primary trainer flying all day long over the Arizona desert (read turbulence) in an an initio airline pilot training program. They were bought new by Lufthansa training operation, and we're kept in service until it was no longer cost effective to continue trying to maintain them. The extreme length of service was due to Beech discontinuing production of the F33A and a lack of a suitable replacement which met Lufthansa's performance requirements. Although I like Bonanzas a great deal, I did not buy one of them when offered one a couple of years ago due to their extremely high time, even though the asking price was in the $30K range - just too much wear, tear and cumulative stress on such a high time airframe for me to have any comfort factor in it. I've been flying for nearly 50 years and have owned a bunch of airplanes, but that much time on an airframe is way too much, and I think nearly any experienced pilot and owner would be similarly inclined. I wish them luck, but they may have bitten off a bit too much in this instance, especially if flipping is in their plans.
@@jamesnelson7415 Yes, sir, quite so! I was simply stunned when you revealed how many hours these Lufthansa airframes had on them! Unbelievable! If we reduce the concept of an airplane to what it is, that is, a piece of metal that flies, we understand that this piece of metal with 20-30 k hours of flight simply cannot be the same piece of metal that emerged new from the factory, and probably is subject to molecular decomposition at the most basic atomic level...resulting in a strong probability to sudden and catastrophic failure of some key component, despite the most rigorous visual inspections or flux testing. The failure is likely to be major and complete. On one flight the metal is still intact...on the next flight it is not. Remember the Arrow III in Florida...People whine about Federal Regulations, but they cannot seem to regulate themselves to stop where common sense ends and avarice and poor judgment begins.
Big B, LED beacon, wing walk
To change a plane colour in ur country does it needs somr documents after the paint has been changed or before.or just becoseu its ur personal item u can do whatever u want no rules . because in my country the is a rules that needs ro be followed after u change the colour.states are different
How much for the paint? Go big B! Daytona blue and silver grey
no entry trevor jeacob hahahahahahahahaha!
😂😂
starry night!
GlAd you are painting it; whatever you pick will be great. Just curious, did Owen and Matt part company over the attempted kidnapping or was that just utube BS ?
Instead of chrome do copper instead. It’s a step of chroming, chrome is the final stage and for copper you stop a few steps earlier.
Jet Stream gray
Leave the leading edges of the wings, horizontal stabilizer, and vertical stabilizer unpainted and metallic like a jet. Would look sleek.
Interesting thought 🤔
Daytona Blue
Think....dark colors in Arizona??
Just want to know how y’all afford all that stuff. I’ve had 2 airplanes and could never afford $25k for paint and 80k for a new panel
Nice plane!
Thanks!
Your welcome!
Ocean blue
Wasn't expecting to see citationMax XD 19:20
Little bonus cameo haha
The viewers do actaclly pay the bills by watching!!! Lol
Hahahah a little yea!
Who does all you guys' panel work?
Drinking game: take a sip every time one of them says “comment down below”
love your visdeos guys
Apollo grey guys.
Need's to have the letter B on the tail
JR Aviation I would love to join up with you three
I would do blue red golf and white. Also you need to have a b
Where are you guys in your flight training?
Big B for sure.
Paint it to look like the original geometric JR garage Gallardo with the gray red black and white
That would be crazy cool but impossible to sell haha!
double drop shadow
New sub! Liked 🙏😎😘
Def Big B
That Tobasco shirt is hot.
Race Red!
What type of paint? Imron?
Big B or no B, kinda like none; and the light has to go
Abbey Grey over fantasy blue
Exon Gray
New sub ! Liked 🙏😊😀😘🤓
Medium B
What ray bans are those???
Big B，“3d” registration
Pink......or purple.
The painter is letting you right away that this is going to be expensive. $600 just to take off and replace trim. Ka jing
big B!
Agreed
Jet stream
Anything other than White. Absolutely any other color other than White. For the love of god, no White. (heheheheh),
Jet Stream