Student Tries To Frame & Cancel Jordan Peterson But Gets DESTROYED Instantly
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- Опубліковано 19 бер 2024
- In this video, we will talk about a student who attempts to frame and cancel Jordan Peterson but ends up getting instantly destroyed. Watch as Jordan expertly navigates through the student's pointed questions, dismantling each argument with precision and clarity. From discussing free speech to societal hierarchies, this exchange showcases Jordan's intellectual prowess and the importance of engaging in meaningful dialogue.
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When someone asks such a long question, it's because they want to show how smart they are. Not because they want an answer to the question
😅omg, word salad spoken elouquently is still word salad... smh
The kid wanted a fast interview with no ans from Jordan.
@@annlolmaugh4491 No one inc his parents, have told him to shut his mouth. These type of individuals are very easily led by leftist.
It usually just proves how stupid and indoctrinated they are.
the kid is a troll
To the student: An old maxim says "Better to keep ones mouth shut and have everyone think you are an idiot, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt".
There is one objection I have to this maxim. Ask questions. No need to make statements. The questions you ask and the answers you receive will be all the evidence you need to make a mental statement which need not be spoke aloud but dwelled upon and thoroughly considered. In the Socratic way, you don't need to state anything. It will be stated for you, if, you ask the right questions.
peterson is a liar.
he DOES claim the hierarchies of capitalism are natural and are based on competence, and he DOES defend those hierarchies by saying they are useful and by promoting capitalism.
but his theory on hierarchy is demonstrably WRONG.
every natural hierarchy of competence is a bell curve, with few at the top and bottom and the majority in the MIDDLE.
capitalism is a PYRAMID /\ hierarchy,
pyramid hierarchies are artificial and integral to capitalism/profit, there has to be a very large base in a capitalist hierarchy in order for profit to be generated, profit is not possible in a natural bell curve hierarchy.
capitalism is UNNATURAL and abusive because of that fact.
@@Fuji_9.63when you reach 40 let us know if you feel the same. Or better yet start when you have a daughter that a man flashes himself in girls locker room
@@miinyooRight Mil That "maxim'' can worry people particularly school kids lacking confidence and not wanting to show ignorance.The ones who should be encouraged to ask questions..
@@Fuji_9.63. I would love to see how you would replace capitalism with socialism and make for a case where that works instead and is more beneficial?!?! Last I checked socialism always fails in the end and becomes a cluster ####
The kid needs to get to the question without going around the world.
It's called strawmanning.
peterson is a liar.
he DOES claim the hierarchies of capitalism are natural and are based on competence, and he DOES defend those hierarchies by saying they are useful and by promoting capitalism.
but his theory on hierarchy is demonstrably WRONG.
every natural hierarchy of competence is a bell curve, with few at the top and bottom and the majority in the MIDDLE.
capitalism is a PYRAMID /\ hierarchy,
pyramid hierarchies are artificial and integral to capitalism/profit, there has to be a very large base in a capitalist hierarchy in order for profit to be generated, profit is not possible in a natural bell curve hierarchy.
capitalism is UNNATURAL and abusive because of that fact.
@DRAGONFLY101 go argue to someone who cares. This is a youtube comment thread. Even if you are right, you are worthless and not changing anyone's mind by squabbling here. Put real effort in to sharing your ideas and start making videos instead of chasing a lonely life.
wasnt a question was a lecture full of opinion
If the kid had any game he could have demonstrated this in his question
Apparently being woke precludes them from coming to the friggin point.
Best.
Comment.
Evar.
It's a trained tactic. By fleshing out every part of their rambling statements as much as possible they can include all sorts of side issues and dogs before actually asking a question.
What exactly is his question? He is like a dog chasing his tail and going no where.
@@ohh4174 it was thesis on everything jordan might be worng about
peterson is a liar.
he DOES claim the hierarchies of capitalism are natural and are based on competence, and he DOES defend those hierarchies by saying they are useful and by promoting capitalism.
but his theory on hierarchy is demonstrably WRONG.
every natural hierarchy of competence is a bell curve, with few at the top and bottom and the majority in the MIDDLE.
capitalism is a PYRAMID /\ hierarchy,
pyramid hierarchies are artificial and integral to capitalism/profit, there has to be a very large base in a capitalist hierarchy in order for profit to be generated, profit is not possible in a natural bell curve hierarchy.
capitalism is UNNATURAL and abusive because of that fact.
Why do people go to university to learn this way of using too many long words to ask a simple question, utter rambling nonsense
It's from the Marxist debating rhetoric handbook. Frame and strawman a person's position before the argument starts, so if they give a direct answer, they are found guilty of said framing or strawman.
Big words means big smart
That’s why we have leaders today that use word salads to lie & coverup their underlying incompetence.
peterson is a liar.
he DOES claim the hierarchies of capitalism are natural and are based on competence, and he DOES defend those hierarchies by saying they are useful and by promoting capitalism.
but his theory on hierarchy is demonstrably WRONG.
every natural hierarchy of competence is a bell curve, with few at the top and bottom and the majority in the MIDDLE.
capitalism is a PYRAMID /\ hierarchy,
pyramid hierarchies are artificial and integral to capitalism/profit, there has to be a very large base in a capitalist hierarchy in order for profit to be generated, profit is not possible in a natural bell curve hierarchy.
capitalism is UNNATURAL and abusive because of that fact.
@@Fuji_9.63 go post your copy/paste drivel on a woke university message board
the wordsmith is a future politician, 20 minutes of verbal crap with no point made
Wow, it gave to you a headache too?
👏🏽🎯👏🏽.
The kid will using up his entire 3 minutes with a single question in a hearing and the witness doesn't even have to filibuster him
Word of the day : to Bloviate
if obama had a pet hamster. lol
This kid is a legend in his own mind. My bet is he will never have a ‘real’ job and will spend his life dabbling in education.
Being delusional is not inherently a bad thing. If all you've known is delusion then how can anyone expect you to not be? What people expect is for people to when presented with good evidence that they can change their minds. That's a hard thing to do for everyone. One of the hardest, but that's what is expected in a rational discussion.
With This Kid It's a Matter Of Opinion,
And Only His Opinion That Matters.
@@michaelchevreaux7780 Agreed, Typically a question is a simple thing to ask, in this case the kid is attempting JPL to agree to his interpretation of JLP’s position and hopes to spring a trap on him.
Problem is, they don't see it as delusion, and get lost@@miinyoo
Let’s hope he never has a future in education!
Apparently that student is still talking - even though everyone else went home last week.
Aggghhhhhh! Still laughing over this comment!
Jealos?
I was listening and i am about to fall asleep. 😂🤣🤣 I am glad that this is my kid, i feel sorry for his parents.
😂🤣🤣 What embarrassment of our American colleges and universities system.
😂
@@RighteousnessWillPrevail JEALOUS
I feel like that kid was a great fan of the "if you can't dazzle them with brilliance baffle them with BS" school of thought.
my exact thought 👍
A very effective strategy, but if your BS isn't baffling it's just BS as in the case of this kid
That kid basically reeled off a book length of words and said nothing ! What a waste of money the US schools are. They cannot critically think.
peterson is a liar.
he DOES claim the hierarchies of capitalism are natural and are based on competence, and he DOES defend those hierarchies by saying they are useful and by promoting capitalism.
but his theory on hierarchy is demonstrably WRONG.
every natural hierarchy of competence is a bell curve, with few at the top and bottom and the majority in the MIDDLE.
capitalism is a PYRAMID /\ hierarchy,
pyramid hierarchies are artificial and integral to capitalism/profit, there has to be a very large base in a capitalist hierarchy in order for profit to be generated, profit is not possible in a natural bell curve hierarchy.
capitalism is UNNATURAL and abusive because of that fact.
@@Fuji_9.63 go enjoy a communist country then, and stop being one of those trying destroy what works for the rest of us, and see how long your life is
@@jazzsnare the highest competence on the bell curve is the thin bit on the right hand side, not the bit at the top.
the bell curve is nothing like a pyramid shape.
I'm pretty sure this was a Canadian student...
The fact is that capitalism is a bell curve.
Hey kid, fyi, when somebody asks you for the time, they dont want to know how a Swiss watch is made !
This kid employs the first play in the progressive playbook against Peterson. He bombards him with so much bullshit that its exhausting to even try to answer a question that isn't even being asked.
A typical example of how the progressives work their platforms, they pretend to have discussions but they spout their nonsense while they are preventing actual discourse.
I am still baffled as to why this man is controversial, everything he says makes perfect sense, to me anyway.
Same! I’ve asked people before, and they really can’t give an answer. It’s always “wellll..didn’t he say that um…welll, i mean..” lol
That’s the point…he speaks truth
He's not following the government narrative
Agreed 👍🏽
He's not controversial its a certain group that labelled him like that because they can't face reality they are in a bubble
This student is a perfect example of someone who speaks in a superfluous manner, saying a whole lot without saying anything at all.
A smart man says what he knows.....a wise man knows what he says.
I have a coworker (a nice guy and I get along with him well) who is so woke that whenever we talk politics, he takes forever to get to the point because he has to put in all kinds of disclaimers and caveats lest anyone think that what he’s saying is out of bounds for woke culture.
In the end, he sounds like one of those fast talking voices at the end of a drug commercial.
😭😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣
I love when he says "well not OK"
My captain in the military would always tell me to get to point
That saves a lot of energy and time is precious 😊
Smart guy.
This kid's voice wears me out long before he gets anywhere near a point.
Kid sounds like he's swallowed a lot of soy.
The kids point seems to be: Jordan you are not woke.. gotcha!
The student is a slippery weasel who consistently changes the meaning and direction of his questions with little concern for the underlying distinctions in meaning that changes in wording create.
He was there for clout more than anything else. He wanted to impress his friends, his professors, and, most importantly, himself-so that he can say, “I shut Peterson up” for the rest of his life.
What he didn’t realize was that circling around a bunch of buzzwords and regurgitating some half-baked nonsense in 100 different ways would only make him look like a complete !di0+…when the whiny kid is no different from those activists that scream “that’s literally genocide!” merely because people don’t entirely agree with them.
Well said! 🙏
And Jordan manages it perfectly. Instead of trying to address all his points call him out for not actually asking a question. Then he answers clearly and quickly leaving little room for misunderstanding.
Good grief. In the words of a wise man, " hush child". Wow
Still waiting for his question... 😂
That kid loves to hear his own mouth run! That's 7-8 min of my life I'll never get back.
Holy crap, was this a question or a speech?!!!!!!!
Don’t think it was either. It was more a rambling of someone who felt that because of their own political values that they were right. Or at least thought they had a coherent thought process!
More like a subdued rant from someone who is not used to being challanged on his bs.
I now realise 'substantive' is a word i never want to hear again
The kid is lecturing and accusing JP of "inflammatory" language. I'm surprised JP didn't object to that.
I'm not. You learn from experience that you don't play into those things. They don't help anyone's case. The kid hopefully learned that.
Jordan respected that the kid did a very good job of creating a fairly strong argument, if he did stray all few times into assumptions. Rare. Of course the kid was largely wrong, but his was as good as anyone could do. That is why Jordan let him go. RESPECT.
peterson is a liar.
he DOES claim the hierarchies of capitalism are natural and are based on competence, and he DOES defend those hierarchies by saying they are useful and by promoting capitalism.
but his theory on hierarchy is demonstrably WRONG.
every natural hierarchy of competence is a bell curve, with few at the top and bottom and the majority in the MIDDLE.
capitalism is a PYRAMID /\ hierarchy,
pyramid hierarchies are artificial and integral to capitalism/profit, there has to be a very large base in a capitalist hierarchy in order for profit to be generated, profit is not possible in a natural bell curve hierarchy.
capitalism is UNNATURAL and abusive because of that fact.
@@Fuji_9.63 you are confusing a pyramid scheme, not the same thing, witha hierarchy and imagining capitalism to be such a scheme. INCOME which is not capitalism, but seems to be your issue, does normally distribute, without capitalism, you would have never been able to make such stupid claims, as likely you wouldn't be able to read, or even been born, young person, try to grow up as you sound stupid. Then Jordan isn't a liar, because you can't carry a logic. Even were he wrong he wouldn't be a liar. Grow up.
@@Fuji_9.63yap yap yap
This kid is so impressed with hearing himself talk that he hasn’t made one wise point at all.
This kid thought he was smarter than Jordan
And we all know thought did.
That was the longest question ever. What is his point? I didn't get it. 😂
That wasn't a question, it was an ad-hoc debate. I think it went well for the kid. If he didn't learn anything from it, that's on him.
nothing worse than a question from someone who loves the sound of their own voice!
What question? 😂
Disguising several attacks as a question
It is not a question it is a speech
I took a nap woke up confused then took a nap a second time then woke up again and I still don't know what his question was or were . I feel sorry for this guy's future spouse .
He’s married to himself and his ego - he’ll be happy in his little bubble of a world.
😂😂😂😂
Just their voice alone would cause me issue.
Best friend. You sounded like that at one point in time. Everyone did while they were hiccuping over the raging stew of emotions. I think the kid did good and kept his composure. Most people can't do at his age and setting what he did.
@@miinyooI never sounded like that, at that age 😂
"You may not be interested in politics, but politics is interested in you,"
Pericles of Athens.
This child wants to do a lot but he's just standing there.
No wait, he did do a lot of saying nothing. 😂
Defo not a "child".. 😂
When you ask a question for twenty minutes and the answer can be “yes” or “no”, it was not a well framed, or well thought out question! Some people just like hearing their own word salad.
Some people really love to hear themselves talk. Just get to your damn question already, kid!
This is what a 3 year old sounds like who grew up not having a father who says "no".
That kid has an ongoing love affair with his own voice.
Typical narcissistic behaviour. You can’t argue with a narcissist. They always twist and denying.
That's not a question but a conference by the student.
the trouble with these kids trying to be smart is just this. They haven't done anything. They have just sat in classrooms with other kids who have not done anything discussing hypothetical scenarios and they get the false impression that they are clever. come back in 20 years when you have been out in the real world and done something useful
peterson is a liar.
he DOES claim the hierarchies of capitalism are natural and are based on competence, and he DOES defend those hierarchies by saying they are useful and by promoting capitalism.
but his theory on hierarchy is demonstrably WRONG.
every natural hierarchy of competence is a bell curve, with few at the top and bottom and the majority in the MIDDLE.
capitalism is a PYRAMID /\ hierarchy,
pyramid hierarchies are artificial and integral to capitalism/profit, there has to be a very large base in a capitalist hierarchy in order for profit to be generated, profit is not possible in a natural bell curve hierarchy.
capitalism is UNNATURAL and abusive because of that fact.
So what@@Fuji_9.63
@@foxy1960 wow, are you five years old ?
No I just act like one , Everybody lies big deal don't worry about it lol@@Fuji_9.63
No 65 but just act like a 5 year old but I know bs when I hear it. That kid just loves the sound of his own voice and is just spouting a load of word salad that halfwits think is intelligent lol@@Fuji_9.63
Best way to not politicise something: when the government enforces compelled speech, don't complain, don't say no, and everything will be smoothed over- but you'll have no rights.
Imagine if your life was on the line every time you were found to be lying during a debate
Then I'd use the defense, I must have heard it in a dream.
That would discourage lying 🤣
peterson is a liar.
he DOES claim the hierarchies of capitalism are natural and are based on competence, and he DOES defend those hierarchies by saying they are useful and by promoting capitalism.
but his theory on hierarchy is demonstrably WRONG.
every natural hierarchy of competence is a bell curve, with few at the top and bottom and the majority in the MIDDLE.
capitalism is a PYRAMID /\ hierarchy,
pyramid hierarchies are artificial and integral to capitalism/profit, there has to be a very large base in a capitalist hierarchy in order for profit to be generated, profit is not possible in a natural bell curve hierarchy.
capitalism is UNNATURAL and abusive because of that fact.
@@Fuji_9.63shut up libby
Kid is smart, but he didn't go there to ask a question. He went there to make statements, presented as questions.
His high speed rambling “question” was likely driven by adderall. What a confusing stream of consciousness he’s on.
8:55 Jordan Has None of Student's BS !!!
😂😂😂
peterson is a liar.
he DOES claim the hierarchies of capitalism are natural and are based on competence, and he DOES defend those hierarchies by saying they are useful and by promoting capitalism.
but his theory on hierarchy is demonstrably WRONG.
every natural hierarchy of competence is a bell curve, with few at the top and bottom and the majority in the MIDDLE.
capitalism is a PYRAMID /\ hierarchy,
pyramid hierarchies are artificial and integral to capitalism/profit, there has to be a very large base in a capitalist hierarchy in order for profit to be generated, profit is not possible in a natural bell curve hierarchy.
capitalism is UNNATURAL and abusive because of that fact.
Is that student actually listening to himself?
no
The "Question" becomes the medium, the vehicle, and the pretense for an unending political rant. His goal is making a political statement, not asking a question.
peterson is a liar.
he DOES claim the hierarchies of capitalism are natural and are based on competence, and he DOES defend those hierarchies by saying they are useful and by promoting capitalism.
but his theory on hierarchy is demonstrably WRONG.
every natural hierarchy of competence is a bell curve, with few at the top and bottom and the majority in the MIDDLE, as proved by the IQ bell curve, a thing peterson supports.
capitalism is a PYRAMID /\ hierarchy,
pyramid hierarchies are artificial and integral to capitalism/profit, there has to be a very large base in a capitalist hierarchy in order for profit to be generated, profit is not possible in a natural bell curve hierarchy.
capitalism is UNNATURAL and abusive because of that fact.
kid wrote a whole book asking 3 questions.
Student: Do you think you risk [.....]?
Jordan: Yes.
Next question, please~!
Always refreshing to hear Dr. Peterson
The student is rude in twisting facts to suit his bent idea. Nasty.
Another woke talker, spewing ignorance and failing to make a point. He just continues to pontificate.
You are not allowed to have hierarchy unless I am above everybody else.
The thoughts of the student ranting at JP. "I am the smartest guy in the room, watch and learn".
😮😮kid does not have the experience to cancel Dr Peterson.
@4:24 they mad at the rich 1% but take it out on the rest of the 99%. Makes sense to me in the land that lacks scrutiny.
Kid has a platform. ''We need a question'' Nice.
I was hoping Peterson would ask the kid for examples of the right trying to curb free speech. Obviously the kid never gave him a chance with his stream of consciousness "question".
It's easier to keep your patience if you know that your opponent is unraveling.
I am a big supporter of Free Speech, but when people try to tell us that Free Speech means their lies are now just as good as facts and truth, we need to reject that kind of thinking.
Does anyone here remember what the question was?
Your questions and statements do NOT diminish how important Jordan Peterson is to the WORLD
Overcompensating is what I call it.
This student loves to hear itself talk. What nonsense.
If this kid were half as smart as he thinks he is, he might be worth acknowledging 😂😂😂😂
peterson is a liar.
he DOES claim the hierarchies of capitalism are natural and are based on competence, and he DOES defend those hierarchies by saying they are useful and by promoting capitalism.
but his theory on hierarchy is demonstrably WRONG.
every natural hierarchy of competence is a bell curve, with few at the top and bottom and the majority in the MIDDLE.
capitalism is a PYRAMID /\ hierarchy,
pyramid hierarchies are artificial and integral to capitalism/profit, there has to be a very large base in a capitalist hierarchy in order for profit to be generated, profit is not possible in a natural bell curve hierarchy.
capitalism is UNNATURAL and abusive because of that fact.
The kid loves the sound of this own voice ....
The kid likes to hear himself talk.
Why is it when Jordan speaks for 10 minutes, I listen attentively in a trance-like state, but when this student talks, I tune out the noise? Kudos to them both for keeping the discourse civil.
Ecclesiastes 5:3
A dream comes when there are many cares, and many words mark the speech of a fool.
God's Word is always spot on! 👍🙏
The nastiest part about this were the personal attacks he kept sneaking in.
Someone can have an oppinion, but stating that oppinion as a fact is such a big no-go in any honest debate or exchange.
What was all that? Geez! He wore me out to hear his ADHD speech-question! Loves hearing himself talk! Wow…can’t believe he destroyed his own point in front of all his ‘friends’…Wow!…
that student likes the sound of his own voice LOL
"You can be as aloof and detached from the political sphere as you want but it's impossible to remain that way when the government threads too closed to your protective rights"
Jonathan Haidt is a teddy bear.
Jordan is more of a prickly pear.
11:00 I disagree, he clearly just rambles on and, Trace confuse questioning, painting a narrative, so he can ultimately back to the person that he’s asking questions to into a corner with the painted picture, which is why Jordan has stopped him multiple times, the kid is not interested in an open dialogue, it’s just looking for a gotcha.
I kept waiting for the student to actually ask a question.
Anything beyone 60 seconds isn't a question - it's a narcissistic soliloquy.
who are Universities teaching ???????? And they call it education ???????
University is a well hole of bizarre ideas. Some of them very productive. Many others counterproductive.
Students now-a-days have it hard because the urge to manipulate is greater than the charge to inform. I think it's a racket run by racketeers. I went to college and saw how inept everyone involved was. Some good advice here and there but mostly platitudes to keep themselves employed which had no real function to help me get where I wanted to go.
What I did half way through instead is get a job doing what I wanted to do. That process taught me everything I needed to know and then some.
U have a great show mate!! From Australia 🇦🇺
Can you say word salad from the student?
These students ask their questions with a seething, underlying bias interspersed with micro-aggressions and then proceed to get very defensive when they hear the answer they already knew was coming
All that dude was doing is trying to show just how intelligent he thinks he is.
Sounded like a ling wind know it all to me
The student should be complimented on her enthusiasm
Her? Thats a guy, and his speech is so forced. Its him trying to have the high ground in a debate but he is sorely outmatched.
@@joeyr.cannolihe's probably on puberty blockers
Hah see what you did there.
@@joeyr.cannolihumour not your strong suit, then?
This ADHD-Talking-Machine doesn't wait for an answer to his "questions" because he's making statements.
And when he finally states a question, he thinks he already validated his own previous statements with the build up to the supposed question he finally made.
peterson is a liar.
he DOES claim the hierarchies of capitalism are natural and are based on competence, and he DOES defend those hierarchies by saying they are useful and by promoting capitalism.
but his theory on hierarchy is demonstrably WRONG.
every natural hierarchy of competence is a bell curve, with few at the top and bottom and the majority in the MIDDLE.
capitalism is a PYRAMID /\ hierarchy,
pyramid hierarchies are artificial and integral to capitalism/profit, there has to be a very large base in a capitalist hierarchy in order for profit to be generated, profit is not possible in a natural bell curve hierarchy.
capitalism is UNNATURAL and abusive because of that fact.
@@Fuji_9.63 When did he refer to «hierarchies of capitalism»??
@@migueruta many times in other videos.
look for "a brief look at jordan peterson"
skip to 49m watch to 53min.
This kid needed to go back to learn english. He used big words but i didnt think even he himself didnt know where he was going.
The student was trying to embaress someone smarter than himself. He failed
I thought Jordan made himself clear _MULTIPLE, _*_MULTIPLE_* times: he's opposed to *compelled speech.* The end.
This student is trying to make the case that Jordan is only opposed to "compelled-speech"... _that Jordan is opposed to._ And by extension, that Jordan _WOULDN'T_ be opposed to compelled-speech which Jordan agrees with. And the evidence for this is that Jordan doesn't denounce EVERY. SINGLE. THING. That should reasonably be denounced.
Ok, well that's just BS internet "logic"... the same logic espoused in a Tweet that I saw the other day, "I said that I like waffles... and people on the internet be like, "sO yOu *hAtE* pAncAkEs?!?!"
In that student's diatribe, he never once condemned Hitler... _ipso-facto,_ that student *supports* Hitler. _See how stupid that is?_
Never eat tofu when you own a Prius.
Peterson, by allowing the student to ramble on so much, was enabling idiocy.
YAWN!!. I ain't got time for this . . 😮
That kid was an intellectual Peewee Herman attempting to grapple with an intellectual sumo wrestler!
This little Sally Mary thought he was going to wreck JP. What a time to be alive!!
This is the kid in the bar in the movie "Good Will Hunting"
First time viewer. I'm very impressed by your analysis and commentary on our current reality. Good work mate. Thank you.
That kid's entire diatribe was a repeating loop of "it's all your fault Jordan!"😭😭😭
The student didn't ask a question. He made a statement. All aimed at discrediting Peterson. He talked at such speed you barely had time to grasp one point before he raced on with the next and the next. It was like he was being paid per word or was in a talking speed race. I bet 80% of the people present did what I did. Switched off and waited for Peterson to make sense of the garble for us.
"Do you believe you're other points are valuable" asks the kid.
Well spoken and very informative content. Liked and subbed dude frfr