Linkin Park "The Hunting Party" Tour 2014 • System Tech Vic Wagner about the Sound and JBL VTX
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- Опубліковано 7 гру 2014
- Linkin Park have been in business for almost twenty years - one of the best-selling bands of the decade. Ken "Pooch" Van Druten at the Front of House and Vic Wagner as Systech create the Wall of Sound live.
The sound reinforcement system is a VTX system from JBL. Pooch and Vic are satisfied with the equipment, they don't need a delay line and praise the distortion-free reproduction even at high sound pressure levels.
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As a musician. My respects to all the people that work in the music industry. Especially those engineering / sound techs. These guys are amazing.
I love learning as much about LP as possible
As impressed as I am about the whole set up, this guy talking is lecturing masters sound engineering students. Lol....Having said that, I could listen to him all day telling myself I understand everything, it makes me feel smarter. Cherio!!
A bachelor degree in electrical engineering is really all you need to understand most of what he is saying, but to really do the same job as him you will definitely need a master's degree in acoustics or similar and some experience with concerts.
I would love to actually hear it live to see what it sounds like Thanks for posting :-)
incredible sound, it's JBL.
I want this system to be installed on my terrace so that every time I go there I don't get bored
Wow much power grettings from mexico!!
Props on knowing your shit I've been in the business for over 30 years and still learning but I'm mainly a sound engineer, something some ppl have to understand is everyone has their speciality system tech makes sure the system is in optimal working order.....
I’ve heard those VTX S28 subs in real life. The sports arena in our city has them as the subwoofers for their “in-house” sound system. They seem to dig really deep, and have a good amount of power! I’ve heard some good JBL subs, and some really terrible ones. These are the best. The g28s on the ground are a good idea, because I’ve been dissatisfied with every system I’ve heard without subs in the center. They always seem to sound good directly in the center, but have a nasty dead spot a few degrees to the left and right. They always sound decent further off to the side. As for the VTX sound quality, I feel like they are only good for certain genres, but this genre would be a PERFECT fit for them.
This good sound,, best video bro 👍
Great sound reinforcement, big upp's!
nice set up on music room..
Amazing sound system
3 GrandMA 2 lighting desks! awesome!
Multi purpose arenas are usually horrible for acoustics for live concerts .
Especially these newer arenas they are all built the same ive been doing this a long time i know all the arenas past/ present.
There were very few multi purpose venues that had good acoustics.
(1) Buffalo Memorial Auditorium located in Buffalo New York built for the nhl hockey team was the best!!! It was a old arena built in the 1940s ?? They had these giant cylinder shaped sound baffles that hung from the arena rafters that would sway to absorb the reverberation.
It was the only arena I ever worked that had this feature I don't think that arena is still standing?
But as far as newer current arena I would say the rose garden located in Portland Oregon built for the nba Portland trailblazers it has pretty good acoustics that can be adjusted probably the best venue in North America for sound.
Two thumbs up for the lake processors
2:45 to 3:02 yeah what he said... 👍👍
he is dope
1:55 Interesting that flown subs are effective. I would have thought that at those frequencies, the reaction force from the produced sound would cause the array to shake in the air, lessening the output. I guess this shows that the audiophile crowd that mounts their living room speakers on spikes to anchor them to the floor (to avoid exactly this effect) is barking (woofing? :-) up the wrong tree...
It does make it less powerful in the air but it's more even because you arent coupling with the resonant frequencies in the floor.
Spikes are for the sub to not walk around. Can't walk of your flown.
I think that it has much to do with their poor room acoustics than speaker placement. Never heard of barking effect, what is it?
It doesn’t matter when you have 12 Double 18” 4000watt subs, per side, plus ground stacked subs. Completely different than a home setup
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Buffalo memorial auditorium will be the best place i have ever seen a rock concert.
They used to have these giant cigarette shaped sound baffles that hung from the raffters that would grab up all the sound reverberation it sounded like you were in a opera hall.
Now all these arenas are built the same sound the same look the same there are no more unique arenas like the boston garden toronto maple leaf gardens buffalo memorial auditorium
Is it bad that I want to set up my own line array but at home?
I want this too
You’d get no benefit at home. That’s not what line arrays are designed for
That is very normal.
there's no shame in having a PA in your home. but I suggest you to invest a good point source system. it will probably sound better in your home. my friend has a 4KW PA in his bandroom just for listening music. having 18 inch subs in your apartment is pretty funky. note that a good studio monitors will probably sound better than big PA in your home. and PA will suck a lot of electicity.
Not at all, your neighbours would love it too!
How many boxes and line array's we need for a small indoor space ?
Yes . :))
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I wonder if Vic knows whether or not Fritos are delicious...
what happened to piling massive speaker cabnets on both sides of the stage so it blows everyone away?
Lawsuits!
Dont we get to see the amp racks or are these flies powered?
Loads of Crown iTech 12000HD's on the ground somewhere.
CROWN I TECH world best power amps of the audio industry.
@@organeu besides Lab gruppen and powersoft and dynacord
@@organeu lol okay sure. Maybe 30 years ago.
@@soundfreak8892 don’t forget Linea is a major player today.
what model u suggest for powerful bass in jbl
To my own opinion I think pioneer has good system
@@simongakonyo5419 pioneer trash..... What's the point of pioneer having powersoft amp modules when the speakers sound like crap!💩💩
Be specific. In what price range?
So interesting how different this stuff is compared to home audio solutions. In a home you would never want a subwoofer on a shelf or at any higher than the floor because your bass response isn't as good. Here you see subs hanging from the ceiling lol. And all that is cared about is how loud it can get or how big of a area it can cover vs at home you are concerned with getting the most accurate sound reproduction
Tech Metal accurate reproduction and intelligibility is what they care about most. It is just a different acoustic environment to a home environment that they need to use different methods to achieve their goal. There is a lot of planning, design and physics involved in what they do
The method of hanging subs is used for pattern control. The longer the array the better pattern control over low frequencies. Subs become more directional as a function of the length of the array. That is why they hang them, to give directional control over subs in to seats further away. The ground subs are used to take care of the floor level. In theory the ground floor will not actually hear the flown subs just like they are not hearing the top speakers in the array only those that are pointing at them. Bass response is not as good when flown true but when you have that many subs the lack of ground plane coupling can be overcome. This is not a system that lacks headroom believe me. Full range freq response to every seat is the goal and if you think a home system can outperform the sub performance of a system of this type I urge you to go to a well set up show such as this and compare. Large wavelengths (low frequencies) need large spaces.
I think he said about cardioid configuration for the subs, and that gives them directionality and a quieter stage kevel?
@@jonniprasad just knowing the T60 for a complex recint like that, so many surfaces, materials...
Even with software, the amount of calculus for those shows is scary.
I'm on my 2nd year of live sound and maybe I better keep on music playing than getting to much into engineering, because not many people can manage the planning of a system like this one.
Crown amp hd 4x3500 & 12000hd and see u got lake prossser for time alignment
Nice, but do you know where's my 15watt amp?
I still havnt heard a concert sound better then Pearl Jam, hate to say it but Nickelback was right there with PJ.
so much technology and expertise goes into these shows and when you hear a band in an arena it sounds like youre in a steel pipe, sound bouncing around all over the place, ears are distorting..lol
I don't know what you're talking about. I've been to a Linkin Park show and that crew does an amazing job!
should have seen the Rolling Stones at any of their arena shows, was incredible
what power amps you use????
Pretty sure there not gonna use anything but Crown Amps ..which is the best in the Industry
I got some 2400 and 3600 series amp givim me pressure ...service wise na
Crown iTech HD 12000's all around.
@@ernestoalvarez9045 nope not best. But one of the best Lab gruppen and powersoft is the best opps almost forgot Dynacord!!
Peavey CS800's! lol!
I wonder how much all this cost?
A few milion will get you there.
Marije Steenbergen lol
i think each flyable sub is about $10K each.
the dual 18 inch subs are 15k a pop, this comment is late but doesn't matter
How big of a sound system can I get with $60k?
Talk to an old sound guy and he'll hook you up! If you need someone to talk to initially, or for some phone numbers, call me 612. 250.1565 retired 6,000 shows.
The amount of gear here would be around 2 Milllion, if that gives you a guideline
@@smallbrandproductions6906 $2 Million ISNT bad for this rig. Worth the price of admission.
If you Use a Direct Box on the guitar to the Sound tech guy. How does he make your guitar sound the same as on stage?
amp simulators, in this case faractal axefx
Hello,
Why does everyone always use Dell monitors?
+Eric Nelson Probably the same reason why everyone uses the M50s.
Because de'll do the job. Yes, i'm gonna go tho the middle of nowhere for that pun so bye.
how many watts ????
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100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,009
Yes.
The worst thing about the speakers is that they usually block the view to the stage/screens for some of the attendants.
You should have seen the previous trapezoidal arrays by Showco, Clair, and EV back in the day. Line arrays are a profound improvement.
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What do you expect to hear from your phone?
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You cant throw 35hz at that system fuck that 🤣🤣
Who said that the 35 htz frequency was launched? You can't say anything without listening to this line array which is the best in the audio industry. The sound is incredible realism, precision, fidelity. Another important point: this system like all JBL equipment will age extremely well and will easily be resold in second hand, no problem, it's JBL. Best regard.
Believe it or not, most line arrays these days go down to 35hz on their own without subs… then subs added to extend to 25hz
@@kadjmusic With that said, the line array doesn't do all the work, you probably let the subs play everything till 90Hz and the Line Array will do everything else
your vey ignorant......500 000 watts thru crown macrotech 12000 arrays.....35hz = yes, 20 = a modest amount, 10hz = no....your life = no.
This video is so hot.
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Am I the only one who got lost
Screen1cf Very easy to understand, he's just explaining what they use for that venue. I'm not a big fan of arrays for large venues.
zylcho What don't you like about line source in large venues?
Also, regarding your comment on the Wildwood Beach, the system tech works for the tour's audio vendor, not directly for the band like the FOH mixer. If it was a one off gig, it most likely would have been a local production company- probably Spellcaster, Bauder, Asbury Audio, etc, which provide their own system techs.
+zylcho lol what
+zylcho
I thought line-arrays were the only way to do large arenas etc. What would you use?
They're not the only thing to use, but they are the most popular.
Such a sound system tech expert that doesn’t understand how to hold a mic.
Zachary Hazard could you hear him?
Alrighty then.
Many of them in his videos hold the mic in a strange way.
Such a UA-cam commentator expert on this matter. Please tell us more since you know more than this professional in the video.
I really get the impression that this guy is trying to sound a lot smarter than he actually is.
+slaction why?
mmmm this is how all live mixing engineers talk about their rigs...
He's not even a mixing engineer, he's the system guy, so he has to know this stuff.
You too.
Obviously you weren't "on the job" when they played on the beach in Wildwood NJ. That sound was the worst I ever heard.
I believe my friend that you need to go see an ear specialist! This line array is the best in the audio industry in every way. That said, the management of such a system also depends on the Sound Engineer and again, the technical team whose Chief Sound Engineer was of a very high level. In any case the sound can not be like in your private living room, and it all depends on where you were in the room, the huge room...
line arrays suck.
Why?
incorrect
no
Says someone who has never used or has no idea how to use a LA System.
@@g3o5d yup
Such a shame to see all this effort put into amplifying music created my Linkin Park.
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