Thank you to everyone who has watched the video and all the positive comments. Still only 45 thumbs down! Lockdown has seen me turn my attention to teaching and you can find me at the University of Derby, teaching on the BSc and MSc courses. If you are interested in a career doing what I have enjoyed doing for so many years, drop me a message! Jon.
I had the pleasure stand beside you on the 2018 Weekend Baltic Festival in Estonia. Those Infra subs are beasts. I was also left with a big smile after the show. ua-cam.com/video/V5uoubl2X_Y/v-deo.html
This is my dream. I’m happy with all the bands and venues i have, and making a living from mixing, but being You for one day would be great. ;-) I hope to see you mixing them again. Keef not being here anymore could mean the end of Prodigy gigs, but I think Liam and Maxim has more for us. I’ll come down and say hi next time you play in Denmark. Thanks for a lot of great sonics!
@@LaundryRooms great news, we fans can’t wait to see what this new era has in store. I’m sure you won’t be revealing any advanced secrets about the set. But I’m curious as to what sort of prep work you do with Liam ahead of a tour - do you go through the set with him well in advance, does he give you much specific direction as to how he wants it to go, or do you get a lot of freedom to interpret the elements as you see fit?
"I want everyone to feel the bass and hear the words". That's who you want running your Front of House every night! The Magician Jon Burton. You Rock my friend!
I had no idea that this amount of skill, effort and technology went into ensuring that massive live gigs sound as good as possible for all of the audience. What a job to have. I'm envious. It's a shame that we couldn't hear examples of The Prodigy's music instead of what we did hear.
"There’s not much subtlety in what I do - it’s kind of a nuance free zone. The floor toms are supposed to sound like the slamming gates of hell." awesome!
Well, having just finished the UK 2022 tour and I wished I'd reminded myself why I put things in certain places! It almost all came flooding back to me but I did make a few changes before the tour went out... big mistake! I found myself remembering why the vocals were on the left side of the console as I stood with my arms crossed trying to do two effects at the same time... Muscle memory is a strange but useful thing! Liam and I both sat after the first show exhausted as we had both had to remember what we used to do! Obviously, if he messes up it is a lot more serious than me! I can happily say he was a lot more on top of his gig than I was! Hopefully see some of you out on the road soon!
I love this video, it's really interesting. One thing that I believe would have improved it though, is short examples cut in, of the effect devices in action.
Mate this dude is a legend but I saw them live last year and the show was loud ASF. Loudest concert i've ever experienced hands down. Gotta thank you Jon I had a great time, now have timitus
That's the problem with older FOH guys. None of them protected their ears in their early days so now they just mix louder and louder and ruin it for everyone else. I'd be surprised if he can hear much above 10k.
This looks like it was filmed in Berlin at the Max-Schmilling Halle. If it is then I was there and it was awesome abductee sound was spot on. It was a few months before Keith took his life
get an ipad camera adapter and plug in network adapter to that and switch off ipad wifi and that will enaable the network port go in to mixer hardwire. do it on xr18 which has wifi issues as well
Suuuuper interesting. One thing that I have found with a lot of the large format consoles of recent releases, is that the flexibility still isn't there. Most large techs still bring outboard gear with them, be it in the form of waves plugins or hardware because no one seems to want to make 1 system that does it all. But it's totally possible and then you can build macros to control all of the settings you want. Maybe there will be a day where it can all be contained in 1 console, but we ain't there yet!
I’m going to see The Prodigy in Auckland on the 5th Feb, I’m fussy about my sound so I have high hopes ! (My Defpom nickname came from when I was doing competitive car audio for sound quality)
Great stuff, Jon. Live mixing is all about perceived 'energy' and the difference between piano and forte. The FOH engineer has to constantly re-calibrate the sensitivity of their/audience hearing system. You cannot reach a SPL climax if you are 2dB shy of MAX. 😎♥️
It was his local gig I believe, always a pleasure to see him. He had left by the time I started but he did make a guest appearance at Brixton one time. Amazing dancer! Lovely fella...
Love the analogue way of mixing... phantastic, just phantastic.. I mix a lot and i have to mix on big digital desks and i dont like it. I am way faster on a analogue desk, because as he said: it has knobs :-)
you can get a usb to lightning adapter (apple camera adapter) and a ethernet to usb adapter and your ipad can go hard wire. This can be a solid backup if you mix with ipad a lot.
Alle Prodigy-Gigs wo ich bis jetzt war waren Endgeil-Laut. Aber dieses Jahr in Düsseldorf vom Sound her war einfach Perfekt. Ganz vorne den Bass hattest du in den Lungen gespürt und alles andere konnte man Kristall-Klar hören und obwohl es sehr laut war aber es hat die Ohren gestört. Wie man sieht , es ist ein Meister am Werk!
7:32 Are you guys using SDR# software as a spectrum analyzer? It's popular among radio amateurs as a software defined radio and used mostly for monitoring the airwaves.
Big analog boards like this Midas are compartmentalized and reliable... typically you won't lose the board. Perhaps a power supply failure, then switch to backup PS. Lose a channel, there's many more to choose from. Digital boards, that's another story... but they're so much better now then before.
Because he's the one mixing them... When you find an engineer you trust, you both know the creative direction you're going for. You can give them the power to do that and it frees up more time for you to perform and get into the music... FOH engineer sorts your tech and makes you sound great :D super important part of any gig!
Mostly the whole mixer doesn't fail, a channel may fail or the power supply may fail but some desks have a backup power supply to prevent this. Also if you are taking a mixer on tour you'll probably have the whole thing checked out and serviced (if needed) before you start touring. Switching out a mixer with this many inputs, inserts, auxes, and outputs mid-show is going to take too long. So they may have a spare for the next show after the one that the mixer failed. Also, these big analog desks are really robust and can take a beating.
That was the support band desk... we have spare channels, lots of spare parts. The Midas are modular and if one part fails you can usually do a work round.. @@josephreynolds1220
Funny what he says about "democracy of sound" I went to see Madonna in Hyde Park in 2012, days after I'd seen her in France and if you weren't close to the stage you couldn't hear a damn thing she was singing.. I wasn't more put off by it because as I said I'd already seen the show, but for people who spent their hard earned money on that particular day, I felt like they were being ripped off sonically speaking.
"I'm a big believer in turning a knob until things sound better" lol, best line ever and fully agree
"There's something to be said about big speakers in big boxes."
i believe in fixing it before the knob/
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Thank you to everyone who has watched the video and all the positive comments. Still only 45 thumbs down! Lockdown has seen me turn my attention to teaching and you can find me at the University of Derby, teaching on the BSc and MSc courses. If you are interested in a career doing what I have enjoyed doing for so many years, drop me a message! Jon.
I had the pleasure stand beside you on the 2018 Weekend Baltic Festival in Estonia. Those Infra subs are beasts. I was also left with a big smile after the show.
ua-cam.com/video/V5uoubl2X_Y/v-deo.html
This is my dream. I’m happy with all the bands and venues i have, and making a living from mixing, but being You for one day would be great. ;-)
I hope to see you mixing them again. Keef not being here anymore could mean the end of Prodigy gigs, but I think Liam and Maxim has more for us. I’ll come down and say hi next time you play in Denmark.
Thanks for a lot of great sonics!
Hey Jon, hope you're involved for the gigs coming up in July! As one who gets to Prodigy gigs whenever I can, I can say you do top work.
@@baxterbasics Thank you so much! Yes, looking forward to July! Going to be great to be out again doing shows!
@@LaundryRooms great news, we fans can’t wait to see what this new era has in store. I’m sure you won’t be revealing any advanced secrets about the set. But I’m curious as to what sort of prep work you do with Liam ahead of a tour - do you go through the set with him well in advance, does he give you much specific direction as to how he wants it to go, or do you get a lot of freedom to interpret the elements as you see fit?
Behind every great band is a great live engineer, awesome interview/behind the scenes video.
great band? where? these fkn wanna be pre tracked panaminers????
GTFOH!!
Show can't go wrong with a sub-fanatic FoH-Technician :) Awesome video
I was on this tour with one of the supports. Hearing Jon mix every night and speaking to him about his process was an amazing experience.
"I want everyone to feel the bass and hear the words". That's who you want running your Front of House every night! The Magician Jon Burton. You Rock my friend!
Indeed he does!
Golden!
Glad you like it!
Love hearing his passion and knowledge
I had no idea that this amount of skill, effort and technology went into ensuring that massive live gigs sound as good as possible for all of the audience. What a job to have. I'm envious. It's a shame that we couldn't hear examples of The Prodigy's music instead of what we did hear.
With original music this video couldn‘t be offered for free.
Nicest guy ever and greatest foh engineer for the greatest band ever 🙌🏿
Its great to hear his simple expressions of how the music should effect the audience. Top group and top engineer!
Great video. Seeing "Keith" on those labels gave me the feels.
"There’s not much subtlety in what I do - it’s kind of a nuance free zone. The floor toms are supposed to sound like the slamming gates of hell." awesome!
4:12 Man, I LOVE how you describe building a mix, and not just loud all the time!
Takeaway: _Turn the knob until it sounds better._
that's the truth
4:45 suprisingly for a lot of people loudness is more important than dynamics, interesting video . Thanks for sharing 👍
"I'm a big beliver in turning a knob until things Sound better" - There is so much truth behind this statement.
Well, having just finished the UK 2022 tour and I wished I'd reminded myself why I put things in certain places! It almost all came flooding back to me but I did make a few changes before the tour went out... big mistake! I found myself remembering why the vocals were on the left side of the console as I stood with my arms crossed trying to do two effects at the same time... Muscle memory is a strange but useful thing! Liam and I both sat after the first show exhausted as we had both had to remember what we used to do! Obviously, if he messes up it is a lot more serious than me! I can happily say he was a lot more on top of his gig than I was! Hopefully see some of you out on the road soon!
What a great Job! R.I.P. Keith! Essex Finest! Springfield massive!
I love this video, it's really interesting.
One thing that I believe would have improved it though, is short examples cut in, of the effect devices in action.
Mate this dude is a legend but I saw them live last year and the show was loud ASF. Loudest concert i've ever experienced hands down. Gotta thank you Jon I had a great time, now have timitus
Heh, yeah, same here. It was a good show, but it was painfully loud - and I was wearing earplugs!
That's the problem with older FOH guys. None of them protected their ears in their early days so now they just mix louder and louder and ruin it for everyone else. I'd be surprised if he can hear much above 10k.
@@willgaines5269 Definitely! It's quite shocking to be honest, they must fuck up so many people's hearing
Always protect your hearing at big concerts.
I seen them in Birmingham and I thought Ho99o9 was slamming the bass. Louder than the prodigy and they were thumping.
This looks like it was filmed in Berlin at the Max-Schmilling Halle. If it is then I was there and it was awesome abductee sound was spot on. It was a few months before Keith took his life
You're prefectly right, Schmelinghalle it was!
Great sound in Auckland ..Thanks
Pleasure, lovely city! Great crowd that night too!
@@mustudios2813 amazing night
Very interesting seems like a really sound guy.
get an ipad camera adapter and plug in network adapter to that and switch off ipad wifi and that will enaable the network port go in to mixer hardwire. do it on xr18 which has wifi issues as well
thanks yes, got the workaround! thank you
Saw The Prodigy many times live, one of the most epic sonic experience in a live show that you can watch and heard, just can´t get any better.
I friggan love this channel
Great interviewed ..i always love to hear from the master 🤘🤘🤘
I would love to attend an On The Job training seminar with him
I'd love to see them soundcheck after watching this. Pretty awesome video
Accidentially ended up in Jon Burton's domain on a few occasions asking him what he's doing. Now i understand. So sorry Jon haha
Top pro right here, taking care of business.
I have one of those DBX Sub Harmonic units. Nice to see one in the wild!
Great video👍🏻, good to see the passion for subs😁
Awesome video! Very impressive stuff, lot of "on the road" knowledge.
awesome guy - now I know why he's working with The Prodigy :)
Great Vid,
thanks much.
long live analog desk .....
Suuuuper interesting.
One thing that I have found with a lot of the large format consoles of recent releases, is that the flexibility still isn't there. Most large techs still bring outboard gear with them, be it in the form of waves plugins or hardware because no one seems to want to make 1 system that does it all.
But it's totally possible and then you can build macros to control all of the settings you want.
Maybe there will be a day where it can all be contained in 1 console, but we ain't there yet!
I was quite OK until I saw "Keith" on the mixer.
We miss you, Flinty.
Keith ....You are so missed man..you will always be the Fiyastarter.. twisted fiyastartah.
I miss Keith. Thanks Jon for making him sound angry / scary / mischievous.
Really enjoyed this :)
Cool stuff, very interesting.
I’m going to see The Prodigy in Auckland on the 5th Feb, I’m fussy about my sound so I have high hopes ! (My Defpom nickname came from when I was doing competitive car audio for sound quality)
May we contact Jon or if anybody knows what is the signal routing for the Abelton?
" thunpunderous level" I'll take that one , thanks Jon!
Nice toys lol.... knobs, gotta have them. Thanks for the experience.
Leeroy casually chilling in the back there
I see him all over the circuit DJ'ing, he''s pretty damn good. Properly nice guy too.
Great stuff, Jon. Live mixing is all about perceived 'energy' and the difference between piano and forte. The FOH engineer has to constantly re-calibrate the sensitivity of their/audience hearing system. You cannot reach a SPL climax if you are 2dB shy of MAX. 😎♥️
use 5ghz wifi or etehrnet to lightning ipad port and build your network under your router.
7:50 - I can't believe I'm seeing Ableton Live in this
1:04 Leroy hanging out at the desk.
It was his local gig I believe, always a pleasure to see him. He had left by the time I started but he did make a guest appearance at Brixton one time. Amazing dancer! Lovely fella...
Thanks Jon RIP Keith
Don´t care about the Sound, its all about the Sound´s.
Jon, you're the best!
Love the analogue way of mixing... phantastic, just phantastic.. I mix a lot and i have to mix on big digital desks and i dont like it. I am way faster on a analogue desk, because as he said: it has knobs :-)
good job
Top notch!
04:55 jesus if the prodigy sound like this something has gone horribly wrong.
you can get a usb to lightning adapter (apple camera adapter) and a ethernet to usb adapter and your ipad can go hard wire. This can be a solid backup if you mix with ipad a lot.
Alle Prodigy-Gigs wo ich bis jetzt war waren Endgeil-Laut. Aber dieses Jahr in Düsseldorf vom Sound her war einfach Perfekt. Ganz vorne den Bass hattest du in den Lungen gespürt und alles andere konnte man Kristall-Klar hören und obwohl es sehr laut war aber es hat die Ohren gestört. Wie man sieht , es ist ein Meister am Werk!
Danke dir
i want to see the subs
Do they go down to 11?
That Midas desk, UUUH! Sweet. I like his thinking on sub bass interaction and dynamic mixing in general.
"The floor toms are supposed to sound like the slamming gates of hell"
Mate saw them in November, he said it was the loudest show he's ever seen... so not sure if the whole volume is less important is entirely true.
It was probably the clarity mate.... Trick of the ear. Like he said its not about the volume 😉
wonderfull
RIP KEITH
Does anyone know the name of the software at the beginning?
7:32 Are you guys using SDR# software as a spectrum analyzer? It's popular among radio amateurs as a software defined radio and used mostly for monitoring the airwaves.
Hams for the win!
Is that former Prodigy member Leeroy beside Jon @1:02?
good eye, it is indeed.
Brillant!!!
fascinating
awesome
This is awesome to see the other side of gig/event. Nice chan very informative, Why doesn’t this chan have more subs ?
Hass Miloud We exist for one year now, still counting...
You can use a seperate router that isn't connected to the internet, but is connectted to your Ipad and Allen & Heat... built in to your own equipment
That RTA at 7:26 was a Bass mountain lol
Good old Jon 😂 got to love him 😂
Birmingham 2018 was super sound but I found ho9909 on support to be way more bass
Why the towel on the desk?
Interesting using dbx160 on vocals
Do you think they do festivals? JK great video!
We are out doing festivals in April throughout the summer.
Sooo, what do you do if your FOH board dies mid show?
Big analog boards like this Midas are compartmentalized and reliable... typically you won't lose the board. Perhaps a power supply failure, then switch to backup PS.
Lose a channel, there's many more to choose from.
Digital boards, that's another story... but they're so much better now then before.
I want a pint with this man
Why does prodigy have the foh mixing engineer automating live dub delays and other special effects? Band members should be in charge of that stuff
Because he's the one mixing them... When you find an engineer you trust, you both know the creative direction you're going for. You can give them the power to do that and it frees up more time for you to perform and get into the music...
FOH engineer sorts your tech and makes you sound great :D super important part of any gig!
i done the foh for them once too, but it was just vocals, dat player and a hair drier..seriously
We still have a hairdryer to dry out the radio mics when they get too sweaty!
What if that giant mixer fails in the midst of the show. Do they usually have spare?
Mostly the whole mixer doesn't fail, a channel may fail or the power supply may fail but some desks have a backup power supply to prevent this. Also if you are taking a mixer on tour you'll probably have the whole thing checked out and serviced (if needed) before you start touring. Switching out a mixer with this many inputs, inserts, auxes, and outputs mid-show is going to take too long. So they may have a spare for the next show after the one that the mixer failed. Also, these big analog desks are really robust and can take a beating.
He’s got a pro 2 (blue desk) to the right of his mix position. Could be a backup.
That was the support band desk... we have spare channels, lots of spare parts. The Midas are modular and if one part fails you can usually do a work round..
@@josephreynolds1220
Nice, those mic pres are unbeatable on that desk. Thanks for the reply, killer vid.
imagine the guy who doesn't know that the music in the video isn't prodigy
need way cooler transition track on this episode , i think. overall it's a good one. Big Up
Great, in-depth video guys.
Would be nice to have heard some snippets of the Prodigy's music in there (or is that a copyright thing?)
Exactly, Gema would ruin us if we used original music...
This is old but d b and midas preamps
Using 5GHz Wifi could solve some problems
Pearl Jam’s new sound engineer
Funny what he says about "democracy of sound" I went to see Madonna in Hyde Park in 2012, days after I'd seen her in France and if you weren't close to the stage you couldn't hear a damn thing she was singing.. I wasn't more put off by it because as I said I'd already seen the show, but for people who spent their hard earned money on that particular day, I felt like they were being ripped off sonically speaking.
analog console
And for a band like prodigy! Insane
Rev 7 & 5??? Really? Your guitar comp looks cute? Oh my.
Get an ethernet dongle for you ipad and connect it straight to the mixer, skip wifi.
I need knob to turn..not touchscreen...LOL
it sounds like he is speaking another language