Aqua and Choco reminiscence about when hololive got big (feat. Lui)
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- Опубліковано 5 лют 2025
- hololive is what it is today because of the contributions of every holomem, past and present.
Never forget them.
Source (2024-08-16):
【#りっちしょこら】今回のゲストは湊あくあ様⚡今宵もご堪能あれ！【ホロライブ/癒月ちょこ/鷹嶺ルイ/湊あくあ】 www.youtube.co...
Talents:
Yuzuki Choco / @yuzukichoco
Minato Aqua / @minatoaqua o7
Takane Lui / @takanelui
Thanks to @Noodlebrain for the QC!
#vtuber #hololive #VTuberEN
![Suisei & Towa Sensed Aqua Would Graduate Even Before She Told Them (StartEnd / Hololive) [Eng Subs]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/RVLLCQDHj34/mqdefault.jpg)
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Aqua sure did get big thanks to garou papa. Oh and gaining fans across the world too.
The first thing Coco did was exploiting the unappreciated morning timeslot to great success.
She also led the foundation for the "hololive box", which to this day is the most powerful aspect of hololive.
The word box/hako refers to what we usually call "the brand". Aqua and many JP fans use this word regularly. But I prefer the word "box", as it alludes to the whole group being inside a special space.
there's a big reason Coco is so well-respected despite her short stay...
Yeah, Coco was something between Hololive's Hypeman/cheerleader and her own brand of whacky entertainer.
She tied so much of her identity to hololive's brand, and properly utilized the popularity/quirks of the holomem to push for some kind of symbiotic growth.
She was kinda my gateway into hololive proper because it's easier to learn about the other holomem when they appear is so many short memorable asacoco segments.
I found Hololive the day after Mano Aloe graduated apparently, and because of that I actually initially avoided the streams coz 1) I didn't know how to watch streams lmao, 2) people were shxttalking Hololive and I adopted a look-see attitude, preferring to immerse myself in clips first.
Around a couple of weeks later I grew to like Hololive enough that when the Taiwan incident happened I immediately went defense mode for them, even tried staying up at 5am to RBI CN antis showing up to Asacoco streams... I didn't last long tho coz I'm really not a morning person, but the fact that I even did that for a group that I only knew for a few weeks still feels insane to me. Nowadays I don't watch Hololive as often as I used to, but I still look at what they're doing everyday when I scroll thru my subfeed so I'm still pretty updated.
you found Hololive after the Aloe's graduation? so that's why I didn't see you in the comments on the old HoloGamers clips.
but yeah, i feel you on the feeling of wanting to protect when antis attacked Coco though. I've been watching Holo clips for months back then and it became my happy place in the pandemic. So it just hurt seeing the dragon break down like that.
I saw Coco's first Reddit review
Good times
Same. It was a strange time to tune into Hololive
I remember being taken aback by Coco's brazenness. My first contact with Hololive was through Pekora's Minecraft streams, I remember crying when Moona wanted to communicate with Pekora but couldn't because she isn't able to speak japanese. Coco was in the butt plug meme phase, so I thought her content wasn't for me, but she pioneered a lot of stuff for Hololive, being the bridge for HoloEN a while later. I also remember Suisei's karaoke stream when Coco graduated, the opening Tsumi to Batsu with Suisei holding the tears through the song, it was another moment I cried. Then EN came, Gura exploded throughout the world, that Myth 1st anniversary stream is still one of the best of all time to me. Small Gura's Ride on Time is one of the best performances ever. Ina wanting to hug her friends at the end, just another moment of dozens we cried with them. I honestly wasn't fond of the idol culture, I never liked any idol star and it never crossed my mind to follow them so closely. But Hololive is just built different, so much raw emotions that you can't help but cheer for them and wish nothing but happiness for all of the talents.
Sooo lucky you guys found hololive in early days, i regreat stop watching vtuber in 2019 😔
I fell in at the end of 2021 from gura clips. But id already seen the shuba duck meme a while before that but i kept thinking she was from pokemon or something. Feels like 2021 was really the inflection point from the first phase to the big leagues that we're seeing now.
As someone who got into Hololive in 2021, looking at what they've been doing now and thinking they're only getting bigger, it's crazy to think the things they were doing when I got into it were "big" compared to how they started. It really shows where they started and where they are now, it's great.
Thanks for the subs!
I entered the rabbit hole in 2018-19. Back then the girls were getting like 200-500 views a stream. By the time HoloEN hit it was around 10-14 thousand viewers on average. It's gone down a bit since the pandemic ran its course but even so they have way more concerts and brand deals than ever before. It's crazy seeing how much the company has grown over the years.
@@SogenOkami I thinl live views have fluctuated as there are higher highs but also more of them spreading the base out (and UA-cam randomly culling them). I think the overall base is much bigger now than ever though its just that we are used to it and dont even flinch at EN getting 100+K debuts when in 2020 even Myth didnt hit 6 digits on debut
I found HOLOLIVE through a recomended clip during my Dark Souls phase
A certain well-endowed knight was having a hard time woth Ornstein and Smough, and from there, I was enamored by how funny she was. Then, I found her friends: a 17-year-old pirate, a coffee elf, a shrieking necromancer, a rabbit with a funny laugh, and I learned that the elf was gettng a 3D model? I was intrigued, and after watching the shenanigans of that group, called a "generation", I decided to look deeper into the living rabbit hole and learn as much as I could.
And that's when I fell in.
I've been here ever since.
I was in a dark and uncertain place because of the pandemic. Losing my Corporate Job, being forced to close down my side business in electronics repair and barely having anything to eat myself and support my employees for the longest lockdown in the world (Philippines) kicked me in the nuts so hard, i was so close to self harm.
but one thing that helped me pass the time as i stared into a screen and heal was Miko with GTA5.. which led to me discovering Pekora Clips with FGO and started listening to Watame, Aqua and Suisei's music and bunkering in with other fans & the girls during the Coco incident and eventually supporting the girls with what little i had..
now im glad im back on track and can support these girls so they continue providing entertainment and hope to alot of people across the world.
Back in 2020 a friend told me "I bet you'll like Sakura Miko" "She's a V-tuber" and I said "What?!" "Who is Sakura Miko? What is a V-tuber?!"... then I proceed to watch that Miko clip compilation with the Ni**** and Fack U and Stay home and well... here we are, right there in the rabbit hole xD
I guess Pekora made it a complete pitfall
as a long time Tatsunoko, ARK was such a memorable experience. Things just blew up during and after the ARK era.
Still Remember the 1st time I dived deep down to HL was when Gen 4th near Debuting.
So my introduction to HL was mostly Gen 3.
that was around Covid Started, and Korone was streaming Heavy Rain.
At the time I know HL was growing up big, but I never thoughts it was gonna be this big.
I'm almost certain Yagoo only is as popular as he is because he let them do whatever they want with that one photo of his face. If it wasn't for that, he'd be an actual faceless boss. I know he'd already been in some interviews like there's the old famous AKB48 clip and there's also a TV segment where they visit the 3D studio to see how everything works, so it's not like he was hidden, but in those contexts he exists separate from the actual content, while letting them mess around with his own face brings him directly into their world, and also indicates a lot about his character. Him modelling their clothes and merch and throwing the first pitch at a baseball game just feels like a natural extension of that, he's become the physical representative of his virtual employees, stepping up to do certain things they can't do when it's necessary.
You know what's really interesting about that one photo of his face? The person who made the whole potato head thing was the CEO of Activ8, that is to say the guy behind Kizuna AI. It's weird to think that the thing that has survived down to 2024 is his weird little shitpost about another agency's CEO, as opposed to his own agency's primary project.
Aqua selling herself short tbh but its her personality.
She and Fubuki is the most popular member in asia for the longest time and the few that does solo concert, offline appearances and having sponsorship. There was a time when aqua barely streams due to her crazy offline schedule.
I got interested in Hololive when someone on facebook or twitter showed a Subaru with duck gif dancing with Hey Ya bgm
it's Kobo who brought me to hololive, at first, i don't really click with the vtuber culture because it is new at the time, but now, i'm glad that i'm part of the community, . i hope they will keep bringing joy and fun for the longest time
It's not just Japan, Overseas clippers & translators (with a motivation of Monetization) helped attract attention to Overseas fans thnks to their Country's population size.
Hololive would just only popular in Japan with slow business & more likely increases the chance of most Talents graduating if it weren't for them
What made Hololive big... is them. xD None of it would've been possible without Atshi, Choco, and all other Holomems of the first gens. It's steady healthy growth through and through... though arguably on the borderline of being unhealthy I guess. xD I am seriously constantly half worried and half impressed by their accomplishments, as a couch potato. :P
This truly was the Yagoo Daikazoku
i feel like hololive become ultra massive mainly due to coco pushing yagoo to open an EN branch, and it paid off big time, she single handedly started a pop-culture revolution by attracting a global audience
I mean, if she had access to the numbers of fubuki blowing up with her scatman and videos alike with western audiences and korone also doing her part in including/integrating us, I think asacoco, and her slips of english in the beginning was just the confirmation she needed to push for it, I like to think she had since it seems like she initslly pushed for a management posición didn't she?
Coco’s incident brought huge attention to them. While they weee growing quickly, the analytics incident brought in many more western audiences with the amount of coverage.
Fans doubled down to support the girls from the consistent spam from bots. This reinforced a lot , Togeher with clippers going into overdrive
i remember i got really into hololive around 3rd generation's debut. there was quite a bit of aqua fanart and a few clips and i was curious about it since it was kinda like kizuna ai
Aqua is a powerhouse during bilibili days
Yeah, her and foobs. Mind you Pekora and Marine at that time are still fresh out of Debut and are finding their foothold in the company. It's during that time were the Noel x Flare dominate the Mindshare of the current Hololive fans at the time.
Then as aqua said Gen 4 debuted and Coco used all her skills to reach more people which lead to the current Hololive we know and love.
@@capybara-c4gbro, I’m sorry to say this but the CN supporters during the Taiwan incident where the minorities. Most of them hated Hololive starting that point, which is why Hololive has to shut down their CN branch. People getting anxious with the Kobo move is pretty much warranted. Why come back to someone that has treated you in such a way in the past, if not for greed maybe?
@politelical540 so going by your reasoning any goes as long as it gains more viewers and money? Screw everything else in the name of growth?
@politelical540 what you described is literally greed
chasing easy views and money without caring about the risks
@politelical540 are you seriously asking this? Educate yourself on Taiwan situation. Chinese antis were spamming Hololive members stream chats, youtube comments and twitter replies for long months. Their hashtags were full of gore etc.
Chinese people have fragile hearts of glass and could break down at tiniest perceived slight, even if it's imaginary one, only existing in their heads.
If you want more recent example, look at Nijisanji EN's Luxiem who used to have huge CN audiences but lost 90% of them seemingly randomly, some of the controversies being pure misunderstandings.
Chinese market isn't stable at all. They could turn on you any day.
Thank you Aqua for being a major part of that growth
Back in the day when, Hololive got bot spamming attack, everything changed a lot other vtuber can't even Collab with them. People though they gonna fall
But instead they throw away CN market restarting again go for worldwide, Hololive and all members help each other as much as possible, collab , 3dlive , any idea for event, future stream. Made me look forward how they gonna go though this crisis (now i become fan)
If you are early gen viewer, you gonna know that back than all gen not even has to collab, everyone do those own thing not actually act together with gem mate, because they has friends outside who more closer too.
Matsuri band-aid clips ftw man. Also fubuki's astronomia
Back then, whenever I heard topics about VTuber, I was like "Oh, those are Japanese UA-camr that use the 3D/2D characters while streaming, right?", due to the language barrier, I pretty much not really invested into them until I found Kiryuu Coco channel. I was so surprised how fluent Coco was in speaking English despite being a Japanese VTuber herself and thats the reason why I decided to stick for much longer watching her streams until Im so deep into the rabbit hole. It feels so amazing how HoloLive have become this huge internationally now and Im proud to be the small part of it thanks to Kiryuu Coco's unique and awesome personality.
I remember Korone had 60k subs. Good times.
2019? Less than 100 viewers?
It really is quite amazing how big Cover corp is now, having grown from a small tech startup into now a global sensation that’s able to collab with big brands internationally. And all these just within like, the past 5+ years!
I, too, started working at a tech startup 5 years ago, but I’m still just an average joe, clocking in my daily 10-7 for a company that has barely grown despite being early in the VR space.
I’m very happy to see Cover corp’s success. Tbh it has become a sorta dream of mine to work there for their advancements in the 3D / VR entertainment space.
I think 3rd gen was the turning point. Pekora, Marine, and Rushia were huge.
Made me smile.😊
I think you guys mainly have Coco to thank for that push into the English community. That is what started HoloEN, which practically doubled Hololive's popularity in less than a year.
Exactly, Kiryuu Coco was the catalyst for the EN branches to be made.
Coco, then Gura blew up overseas.
Niji was first to market for an EN branch tho but didn't really gain as much.
I believe it is the clippers and Coco. One person cannot single handedly explode a brand. It is always in combination with other factors.
Lol at doubled. EN to this day hasn't even come close to the same level of success. Pekora alone has had more viewed minutes than all of EN1 combined. JP gen 3 has more viewed minutes than all of EN and ID combined. The only EN member to consistently get 20k+ viewers, is Gura. There's more than 10 JP members that get that. Pekora and Marine get double Gura's viewers and between 3x-25x every other EN/ID member. Suisei, Miko, and Aqua come close to double Gura's viewers. Many others get more or the same amount as her. Marine and Suisei have multiple songs more successful than anyone in EN/ID. Marine has double the total video views of Calli, while Pekora and Suisei have 300k and 150k more respectively. Rushia is still the top superchatted followed close by Pekora then Coco. 7 more JP members fill out the top 10, with Calli at 11.
The reality is that it's never been close. JP3 was the actual explosion in popularity and EN fans just have been a bit deluded and/or biased. Subs are not at all an accurate measure of anything. There are countless youtubers with many more subs than anyone in Hololive, but no one in their right mind would argue they're more popular than Hololive.
When a certain shark said a letter in her debut
I found hololive during covid when theres a clip about vtuber almost shown their camera ( coco and towa collab lol XD )then the rest are history….also like fubuki coffin dance song tho
Risu: Non stop nut novemberrr ah ha!
Yagoo: no risu NOOO
that old clip is my gateway to here
Was here during April of 2020 and my first hololive clip that drag me knto the Rabbit hole was Matsuri playing Animal crossing and attempting to make profits from Turnips lol
Hololive as it is now is unrecognizable during the 2020 boom as they are now full fledged Idols instead of "Idols"(lol).
I started watching Holo when I saw random clips of Aqua playing Solo Master in Apex. Thanks for pushing me into the Rabbit hole Minato Aqua.
Ngl, i got into it during coco's drama and rushia's drama.. it spread like wildfire. since prior, I was only into ironmouse and vshojo. And now i mostly watch henya, most holo EN, kobo and zeta.
Get into hololive after watching some fubuki funny shorts lol
for me while searching some video for Minecraft i saw one clip of pekora and subaru
when its peak of the war criminal😂
and remember i subscribe to pekora is about 300k to 400k subscribers (i remember)
that's when i got to the rabbit hole 😊
my first introduction to Hololive was from collaboration event with Azur Lane mobile game back in november 2019
gotta becareful of those sponsor tho, especialy blackrock
I found them from ARK so yeah
The fact that they both identified Coco bringing ARK to Hololive as the moment that united all the generations just shows how influential Coco was during her tenure in Hololive. As a foreigner, Coco brought a completely different perspective at just the right time that broke through social barriers. She was a hardcore ARK evangelist and openly expressed her desire for everyone in Hololive to play it wherever and whenever she could. She was pushy in just the right way to convince the introverted Hololive members to let down their guard a little bit. She also convinced COVER that there was interest in overseas talents joining the company.
Subaru was another one who broke through barriers with her extroverted personality, including hosting Hololive's first collab with a male Vtuber outside the company when she collabed with Maimoto Keisuke from Nijisanji. Management were hesitant and unsure about the potential reaction to Subaru appearing with a male Vtuber from their biggest rival agency, which was totally unprecedented and had never been done before. But Subaru pushed really hard for it and the collab was a big success that helped to promote COVER's image and break down the walls between rival agencies.
Actually how does the Maimoto Subaru and shigure Ui thing worked that they became a trio at that time. I still don’t understand cause there wasn’t much clips on it
1. Viral clips
2. Idol concerts
3. Coco
4. Myth at launch, with help of viral content creators like Gigguk
Covid, people watch more streams due to pandemic
The HONEST FACT if someone asks "When you know Hololive is getting bigger" is.
1. When the top of your UA-cam recommendations / Front page is filled by Hololive clips if you're search history is Japanese Animations related clips
2. When the top of your UA-cam recommendations / Front page is filled by Hololive clips if you're search history is MMD Animations related clips
3. When the top of your UA-cam recommendations / Front page is filled by Hololive clips if you're search history is Vocaloid related clips
4. When the top of your UA-cam recommendations / Front page is filled by Hololive clips if you're search history is Minecraft related clips
5. When the top of your UA-cam recommendations / Front page is filled by Hololive clips if you're search history is Japanese Animations related clips
6. When the top of your UA-cam recommendations / Front page is filled by Hololive clips if you're search history is Japanese Anime songs related clips
7. When the top of your UA-cam recommendations / Front page is filled by Hololive clips if you're search history is Japanese Ads related clips
8. When the top of your UA-cam recommendations / Front page is filled by Hololive clips if you're search history is Japanese Games(Gatcha) related clips
9. When the top of your UA-cam recommendations / Front page is filled by Hololive clips if you're search history is Japanese MEME related clips
And that happens between the early Covid lockdown and today.
Anyone said different is just lying.
so basically weebs are taking over, or rather, internet culture has always had a foundation of otaku/weeb culture underneath it, and now its becoming more prominent
@@goleogthais Yes since we all like it or not is now connected more than ever because the Internet filled with Pop Cultures which where the Japanese Anime pop cultures as it's main ingredients alongside other Japanese Entertainment forms i.e. games.
Not really. Other subculture content grew just as much as VTubers during the pandemic. Well except for the makeup content creators which got bulldozed over from petty drama. Not saying VTubers aren't big but UA-cam is ginormous, you think VTubers are the only player in town? You my friend have just entered a much bigger universe, you just don't know it yet.
@@CybersteelEx nope, I remember back in 2019 September I was autoplaying anime songs with MMD models when Matsuri karaoke cover start playing which is intriguing since make me think "where I can have this 3D model"
o7
Miko saying the "n" word and telling people to stay home in GTA
They got big when Coco debuted
Clips of Miko's GTAV streams
im sorry but are they really taht ignorant and stupid? like aqua got into hololive before it was anything, she was pretty much one who made it big. yeah many will claim fubuki is kind of the main girl but for me ive always seen aqua as the poster girl of hololive even . and how they got big. multiple reasons a big reason is actually also the corona lockdown stuff that people where more at home and therefore went to youtube and the likes and that stuff got more attention. collabs with things might have helped a small bit but not that much, it was more that the companies who collabed with them sold more goods because of them that way. but the main explosion of vtubers and especially hololive, was then the english gen came, before there was no en vtuber at all pretty much on youtube (not in companies at least and the ones who did that where all completly unknown if so for most parts) that skyrocketed their popularity since there was english once for once and since it where also the first english group at all not only in hololive but from vtubers in generall, it was that got all the subs and had outside of japan tons of new fans and people who got into it . the people watching en carried also over to many other japanese holomembers from subs then . it also helped that there was still corona lockdown that it exploded that big . everyone saw the insane grow of popularity with the english gen introduction in the vtuber scene . hell wasnt gura the first to reach a million despite beeing the youngest hololive group to that time? im not a fan of gura but the popularity explosion coming with the en gen is a fact. before that they had marketed it basically solely for japan . after the popularity explosion many of the hololive girls tried to pick up english a bit as well , which makes it obviously that they clearly saw that they can get so much more if they would also be able to interact with oversea fans who cant speak japanese. yet aqua was still one of the biggest and most popular hololive girls while not beeing able to speak or understand english at all pretty much lol. pretty much shows how people liked her and wanted to watch her even without her beeing able to understand the english comments.
The holoJP members are all simply humble. Even fubuki and Mio acted the same way at the anime con in New York. They still, in a way, view themselves as not as important than others or to other vtubers. But honestly, I think it's better that way it sorta shows that no form of ego/power trip happens in hololive compared to other groups. From an outward appearance, it makes hololive look so much more positive.
Wow! You are so much more knowledgable about Hololive than the Holomems themselves that you must know what happens inside the company! Congrats! 😂
das crazy bro i aint reading allat
hope u happy tho
Learn how to format your replies. Nobody is going to read that inane drivel taken straight from mental asylum beyond first few sentences.
The only one who is ignorant and stupid is you, if you still don't understand anything about Japanese culture despite supposedly following Aqua since early days (doubt). Japanese talents would never posit themselves as the reason for growth of the company, especially not when it was truly a collaborative effort of dozens of people.
Aqua didn't make Hololive big on her own. Fubuki and Matsuri paved the way for her in China. Aqua did grow to be the biggest in China (and you could maybe argue overall in that specific short period) but she was never the biggest in Japan and she most definitely wasn't leading the company by some big margin like you're trying to imply.
You're also completely ignoring the fact Aqua wasn't as social as some other holomems so even when she had big audiences (she certainly did! was considered first army after all) it didn't necessarily translate to the rest of company. 40k people watching Aqua play Apex #78 doesn't mean Hololive is big because Apex viewers won't tune into other streams. Collabs definitely have more effect than that because they reach out to new audiences who didn't knew vtubers before and could become fans.
tl;dr Aqua is a very important member of Hololive but you're completely wrong by trying to insinuate she is the most important one and claiming she is the one who made Hololive big is a stupidity of absurd levels.