I have the inventors machine. There is Lye in the bubbler already after just 15-20 min of usage. Which is why I need to use 4 separate bubblers to just try avoid inhaling this.
Yes, with that system if you're not careful it can be dangerous for your health. When we were manufacturing lye alkaline systems I designed them to use very little lye with the safety of my clients being the most important.
@@Hydrogen4Health I know. Appreciate this about you. Always transparent. No showmanship or pseudoscience sales gimmicks. Just good products at a good price.
Not sure who wrote this but if you want to do a study, try testing the osmio infinity against any pem machine on people before COPD with a pulse oximeter. Then decide what you going to spend 500k with universities on. 😅
The Asclepius doesn’t have a membrane, though. It’s Brown’s gas. It uses lye and implements filters like every other brown’s gas machine. Osmio got their information wrong. Also if we take what you demonstrated at the end of this video into account, the Osmio study highlights how much better the Asclepius filters the gas lol.
@@Hydrogen4Health He also said 3L/min isn’t safe, yet here we are. I know you’ve read the published literature where the company behind Asclepius explains the machine’s function: “During the operation, the electrolytic module of the AMS-H-03 hydrogen inhaler generates hydrogen-oxygen mixed gas (H2 ~66%: O2 ~34%, electrolytic solution type) which then passes through the filtering module and the liquid blocking module for purification.” That’s not PEM. I have no horse in this race, I just find it odd going against pretty clear descriptions of a competitors machine with no concrete proof. I’d love to see a teardown and to expose the company if they’re truly lying about their machines function.
@@DeaconDoDirty I have one of the Asclepius machines here. It used to be $30,000 but now can be purchased in the $8,000 range. It is PEM, it does not use an electrolyte in solution. Put in pure distilled water only. The 'interesting' thing is when you look at their patent(s) you see it done BOTH WAYS (they covered both solid and aqueous electrolytes) AND they had membrane and non-membrane versions of the alkaline electrolyzer... So it's possible that yours is different than mine. Also the 'medically certified' version is NOT (when I tried to purchase one) sold outside of China. 3 l/min of Brown's Gas or OxyHydrogen is dangerous because you are inhaling a potentially combustable (explosive) mixture that is easily ignited by a static electrical spark to the hose containing the mixture. The mixture CAN (and has been) ignited OUTSIDE the body by something as simple as a static electrical spark to the hose containing the combustible mixture. If you are inhaling a combustible mixture (hydrogen + air with more than 4% hydrogen) the explosion WILL go down into your lungs. Pure hydrogen is 'safer' in that the mixture doesn't become combustible UNTIL you inhale it and it mixes with oxygen. Then, (if the air contains more than 4% hydrogen) only your exhaled breath is potentially combustible (because it's unlikely to ignite inside you). So DON'T smoke or lean over a candle, etc. and YES, people have done BOTH of these foolish things and the gas HAS ignited but luckily (so far) the mixture in their lungs was less than 4%... So they didn't die. A thing to remember is that once the blood is saturated with hydrogen, you EXHALE any excess and that excess COMBINES with the hydrogen 'coming in' as you exhale, creating an even stronger combustible mixture (so more is NOT better, MORE is dangerous). May the blessings be 🦅 George Wiseman
@@ecopegasus Ok, I see what's happening. The older AMS-H-01 description matches that of a membrane devices that mixes gas post-electrolysis, which sounds like the one you have since its older (2020) AMS-H-03 is what's garnering all the attention these days so when one says simply "the Asclepius machine" it's assumed you're talking about that one. AMS-H-03 uses electrolyte (assumed lye), has three "filter modules," and even has a flushing process to reintroduce electrolyte from one of the filter modules back to the electrolyte tank. The nebulizer greatly reduces chance of static shock. "“During the operation, the electrolytic module of the AMS-H-03 hydrogen inhaler generates hydrogen-oxygen mixed gas (H2 ~66%: O2 ~34%, electrolytic solution type) which then passes through the filtering module and the liquid blocking module for purification.” "Furthermore, in the event the water in the electrolytic module is consumed or exhausted due to the electrolytic process, another cycling module of AMS-H-03 will supply water into the electrolytic module through the filtering module, and the residual electrolyte originally blocked by the filter module will then be flushed back to the electrolytic module simultaneously. Flushing the residual electrolyte back to the electrolytic module could recycle the electrolyte and extend the operation hours of the hydrogen inhaler." www.ncbi.nlm.nih .gov/pmc/articles/PMC8092144/ Essentially the Roll-Royce version of what you make. They've addressed all your concerns in that pubmed article. Since it's now clear this video is comparing the older model, I withdraw my statement claiming Osmio got their information wrong. Carry on Steve lol.
@Hydrogen4Health UA-cam is censoring everyone who has anything food to say. Promise. For years but especially after the first Trump assassination attempt. Mass AI censorship
okay, it's actually just molecular hydrogen that lowers the ORP. I'm still trying to understand exactly how it does it, hopefully not by increasing hydroxyl radicals since it's supposed to scavenge those and those are highly toxic to life @ecopegasus
@@TravisTellsTruths LOL... Of course you are.... You put TRUTH in your name. Can't have that. Frankly, it appears that any of us that dispute / disprove the NARRATIVE are being suppressed in various ways... So SAD!
I have the inventors machine. There is Lye in the bubbler already after just 15-20 min of usage. Which is why I need to use 4 separate bubblers to just try avoid inhaling this.
Voltage is too high
Yes, with that system if you're not careful it can be dangerous for your health. When we were manufacturing lye alkaline systems I designed them to use very little lye with the safety of my clients being the most important.
@@Hydrogen4Health I know. Appreciate this about you. Always transparent. No showmanship or pseudoscience sales gimmicks. Just good products at a good price.
Adding 1 micron warer filter with optional water absorbing beads helps a lot. I usually use 2 bubblers. My gas is definitely pure. @mrcadoia
What happen if we leave the water for about 1hr after the charge.. will it come back to normal? Or its because of lye the water get negative charge
Clearly BG is BG and Weisman's machines are actually sub par and not "special"
Not sure who wrote this but if you want to do a study, try testing the osmio infinity against any pem machine on people before COPD with a pulse oximeter. Then decide what you going to spend 500k with universities on. 😅
I did use the Osmino machine. Do you have a suggestion for another experiment?
The Asclepius doesn’t have a membrane, though. It’s Brown’s gas. It uses lye and implements filters like every other brown’s gas machine. Osmio got their information wrong.
Also if we take what you demonstrated at the end of this video into account, the Osmio study highlights how much better the Asclepius filters the gas lol.
The inventor of EXW say otherwise, he says the Asclepius does have a membrane but he also agrees with the Osmino study.
@@Hydrogen4Health He also said 3L/min isn’t safe, yet here we are.
I know you’ve read the published literature where the company behind Asclepius explains the machine’s function:
“During the operation, the electrolytic module of the AMS-H-03 hydrogen inhaler generates hydrogen-oxygen mixed gas (H2 ~66%: O2 ~34%, electrolytic solution type) which then passes through the filtering module and the liquid blocking module for purification.”
That’s not PEM.
I have no horse in this race, I just find it odd going against pretty clear descriptions of a competitors machine with no concrete proof. I’d love to see a teardown and to expose the company if they’re truly lying about their machines function.
@@DeaconDoDirty I have one of the Asclepius machines here. It used to be $30,000 but now can be purchased in the $8,000 range.
It is PEM, it does not use an electrolyte in solution. Put in pure distilled water only. The 'interesting' thing is when you look at their patent(s) you see it done BOTH WAYS (they covered both solid and aqueous electrolytes) AND they had membrane and non-membrane versions of the alkaline electrolyzer... So it's possible that yours is different than mine. Also the 'medically certified' version is NOT (when I tried to purchase one) sold outside of China.
3 l/min of Brown's Gas or OxyHydrogen is dangerous because you are inhaling a potentially combustable (explosive) mixture that is easily ignited by a static electrical spark to the hose containing the mixture. The mixture CAN (and has been) ignited OUTSIDE the body by something as simple as a static electrical spark to the hose containing the combustible mixture. If you are inhaling a combustible mixture (hydrogen + air with more than 4% hydrogen) the explosion WILL go down into your lungs.
Pure hydrogen is 'safer' in that the mixture doesn't become combustible UNTIL you inhale it and it mixes with oxygen. Then, (if the air contains more than 4% hydrogen) only your exhaled breath is potentially combustible (because it's unlikely to ignite inside you). So DON'T smoke or lean over a candle, etc. and YES, people have done BOTH of these foolish things and the gas HAS ignited but luckily (so far) the mixture in their lungs was less than 4%... So they didn't die.
A thing to remember is that once the blood is saturated with hydrogen, you EXHALE any excess and that excess COMBINES with the hydrogen 'coming in' as you exhale, creating an even stronger combustible mixture (so more is NOT better, MORE is dangerous).
May the blessings be
🦅 George Wiseman
@@ecopegasus Ok, I see what's happening. The older AMS-H-01 description matches that of a membrane devices that mixes gas post-electrolysis, which sounds like the one you have since its older (2020) AMS-H-03 is what's garnering all the attention these days so when one says simply "the Asclepius machine" it's assumed you're talking about that one. AMS-H-03 uses electrolyte (assumed lye), has three "filter modules," and even has a flushing process to reintroduce electrolyte from one of the filter modules back to the electrolyte tank. The nebulizer greatly reduces chance of static shock.
"“During the operation, the electrolytic module of the AMS-H-03 hydrogen inhaler generates hydrogen-oxygen mixed gas (H2 ~66%: O2 ~34%, electrolytic solution type) which then passes through the filtering module and the liquid blocking module for purification.”
"Furthermore, in the event the water in the electrolytic module is consumed or exhausted due to the electrolytic process, another cycling module of AMS-H-03 will supply water into the electrolytic module through the filtering module, and the residual electrolyte originally blocked by the filter module will then be flushed back to the electrolytic module simultaneously. Flushing the residual electrolyte back to the electrolytic module could recycle the electrolyte and extend the operation hours of the hydrogen inhaler."
www.ncbi.nlm.nih .gov/pmc/articles/PMC8092144/
Essentially the Roll-Royce version of what you make. They've addressed all your concerns in that pubmed article.
Since it's now clear this video is comparing the older model, I withdraw my statement claiming Osmio got their information wrong.
Carry on Steve lol.
@@ecopegasus I like this video because the researcher uses science to explain what's safe and what isn't. ua-cam.com/video/5JZg9iArDCY/v-deo.html
Steve i love how you delete all George Wisemans video? WTF he scares you with SUPERIOR BRAIN and KNOWLEDGE RIGHT?👍👍
I can't delete his videos. I'm not sure what this comment means.....
It's UA-cam doing this. All over UA-cam on all important and interesting videos
@Hydrogen4Health UA-cam is censoring everyone who has anything food to say. Promise. For years but especially after the first Trump assassination attempt. Mass AI censorship
Its not "electrically expanded water" it's superoxide in the mixed HHO gas
Can you provide some validation for this theory?
okay, it's actually just molecular hydrogen that lowers the ORP. I'm still trying to understand exactly how it does it, hopefully not by increasing hydroxyl radicals since it's supposed to scavenge those and those are highly toxic to life @ecopegasus
@@ecopegasus I'm extremely censored on all big tech
@@TravisTellsTruths LOL... Of course you are.... You put TRUTH in your name. Can't have that.
Frankly, it appears that any of us that dispute / disprove the NARRATIVE are being suppressed in various ways... So SAD!
Millions are now censored online.