The Killer Feature Of Tiling Window Managers Isn't Tiling
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
- I often get people telling me that they don't see the point of using a tiling window manager. I think part of the problem is the name "tiling window manager". People assume that the only difference between a tiling window manager and a traditional desktop environment is the tiling. But the main reason I choose tiling window managers is because of another feature...
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The Killer Feature is wearing a tie
tieling window managers
Ties are bloat
@@MA-748 Ties are bloat, wear bowties instead
@@tuskiie noice
@@HectaSpyrit bloaties
When you need to have an interview in an hour but you also have to make a quick UA-cam Video about tilling window manager.
Hey DT, I switched to Xmonad about a year ago thanks to your great videos!
It really made me so much more productive. Tiling window managers are so much better:
- no wasted screen space
- everything is visible, no hidden window behind another
- no clicking around to close or open programs
- no desktop icons (never wanted them, and it gets messy real fast)
- also moving any program to any desktop is super easy (at least in Xmonad)
- there isn't anything on screen that I don't need and can't remove
Jesus -- that $2000 mic is so compressed it sounds like a laptop built-in. :D
sounds noticeably bad today
Sounds like DT tripped over a slider 😁
There's too much high and bass and no mid I think...
Yeah this video gave me a head ache I had to lower it to like 20% volume
Sounds like a tie issue 😁
The real big brain move is to get an ultra wide monitor and use xrandr to split it into 2 "virtual monitors" (or more) thereby eliminating bezels.
I have an ultrawide and have tried this, not quite what I wanted unfortunately.
big brain time
Two has always been the wrong number, because you’re always looking left or right and never work centered.
What you want is either 1 or 3 monitors, such that you have a central “master” display, and thus your default position doesn’t hurt your neck and back by twisting.
For instance, 1680px central window + 2x 1080p on the sides = 4K horizontal resolution. You don’t even need an ultrawide if you want to minimize neck pain (or do 3x portrait, which is great for development and terminals).
@@victor38542 you can still have a centered monitor with 2 monitors
@@shallex5744 Not without neck pain over time due to always turning your head to the same side. Trust me, been there, done that, not ever again professionally.
A great setup imho is one big central in landscape and two sides in portrait (match height), all facing you.
Finally got the answer to the important question in our minds... Of course I'm talking about DT's tie and formal getup !!😂😂
Today is about tie-ling window managers :)
@@lajos9134 I’m voting for you 2024
Recommended for court. I wore a tie and no pants last time i went ;-)
Just saw the video title and immediately thought "workspaces" before watching.
Absolutely right, workspaces are a killer feature and I love it.
I'm on i3 right now and it's fun working with it.
In my case I use tiling window managers because
1. I have only shortcuts that I want, and I set them myself
2. I rarely need mouse
3. They are fast and small
4. It is neat to have programming language for config, as it gives flexibility for extending them
5. What DT said
The thing that got me into "tiling window managers" is the ability to control everything via shortcuts. Also I usually only have/use one monitor. Therefore I have no problem with extensions for desktop environments. (I'm currently using the pop_shell)
Actually Mac has workspaces independent from monitors
WOW - this explanation of TWM really showed me its usage on multiple-monitors, and why you use TWM.
DT, you hit the ball "out-of-the-park" for why you use TWM.
Great video!!
Nice tie too!
Great video. When I switched from KDE to I3-gaps I tried tiling everything to realize that it was much easier to just have one or two programs on a single workspace.
It definitely makes it easier to quickly find windows. I don't like i3 personally, it takes too much thinking when opening a new window (what container is selected, am I in the right mode, etc). DWM style window managers are much nicer, you work with tags instead of workspaces (one window can be on multiple tags at the same time) and the way it stacks windows is predetermined by selected layout. And you can run UA-cam in fake fullscreen, which is awesome :)
the virgin workspace user vs the CHAD tag enjoyer
I've used tags in their intended form once. I'm just not used to it.
When I switched to i3-gaps from LXDE, I liked tiling window manager when I first used it and i feel like I'm doing my work better. And then after a while of using i3, i switched over to dwm and i liked it even more. The fact that u can add / remove features from the source code and recompiling it is very cool. Big ups to the suckless team!
Got here wondering what a tiling window manager even was; you said the thing about all 3 monitors being part of the same workspace with desktops & it INSTANTLY clicked, wow. Super helpful explanation!!
Loving all the features of SpectrWM, the workspaces, tiling, simple config and everything else. Only thing I think would make it better is clickable bar modules, I like having them just for changing volume and things like that.
Never switching back from a WM to a DE.
Excellent Derek!!!! I only have one monitor and I still think that twm's are of value. Agree? A workspace for my browser, one for my file manager etc... A lot cleaner and efficient than floating windows. Btw I couldn't find qtile in the Debian repos.
They removed it last year, just grab it from github
@@jsnlouw thanks!!!😀
Flipping quickly between workspaces can be almost as good or better than putting your content on multiple screens.
Having dedicated space for things like obs or a digital textbook can be useful, but it's not always necessary if you can flip to them quickly.
You know some traditional WM's change "workspaces" (they have been called virtual desktops since the dawn of time so I'll use that term) per screen. each monitor can show a different virtual desktop and switch independently. Enlightenment has done it this way ever since it existed ... for about 25 years now. It also has a tiling module to tile windows on specific screens and virtual desktops so you can choose either traditional or tiling on a case by case basis. You can also get the ability to move your virtual desktops around and re-order them or move them from screen to screen. It also has lots of keyboard bindings by default and ability to customize etc. You also then get a full GUI config and all the bells and whistles (different backgrounds per screen and/or virtual desktop or the same, if you want animated gifs or video wallpapers, compositing) and all of this for a memory footprint lower than LXDE. So I'd say you are wrong. This is not a tiling WM thing. Enlightenment has done this for 25 years ... long before any tiling WM's existed. Maybe GNOME and KDE and so on don't do what you want ... but it's not traditional vs tiling.
Agreed, I rarely use tiling, I use mostly tabs.
I wasn't even aware of tabs until a few months ago. That is, I had read about it but thought it was just one of these useless features that they added just 'because it can be done'. However, then I tabbed my layout my mistake and realized that this could be really useful in some circumstances.
I mostly use a normal tiling layout, which works fine for me, but there are times when tabs make a lot of sense (an app that opens multiple windows). Thankfully , I can combine them (tabbed windows on the left) inside a left/right tiling layout. That works perfectly for me.
Today somebody comments here that they use stacking layout instead. That's another things I wasn't even aware of. Now I'm not making the mistake again of dismissing something before finding out what it does, so am playing around with it a bit.
I use tabs for my trash desktop when there are too many softwares running and desktops are getting rare. Highly recommend.
Been having the big tiling aha moment, and it's just great. All my 4 computers (3 macs and a PC) now running different distros with slightly different tilers. Took me a copule attempts to get into it, but now it's no going back! Thanks for shedding light one this topic over and over. This is really kick ass when you get into it.
If you jave an ultra wide monitor you can use LeftWM, it allow workspaces to be a part of the screen, so you can have multiple workspaces on the same screen
The main place I use a split screen view is in my console workspace. I run Terminator there, and it itself is running full screen (F-11 full - meaning it truly fills the entire screen, edge to edge). But I use Terminator's ability to split screen to establish several "panels." Two columns - the left one is 80 chars wide and the top 26 lines of that I use for my IRC connection. That runs in screen, so it has a status line, leaving an 80x25 area for my IRC cllient. That's just a little homage to history - the old green IBM monitors were 80x25.
The second column takes the whole rest of the screen, and I usually leave it unsplit, though I will sometimes split it up depending on what I'm doing. Over on the left there's a panel below the IRC panel that's usefully large, and below it is a small region split vertically - on the left I run a little script that monitors my battery status, my top five CPU consuming processes, my fan speed, and so on (I'm kind of anal about battery life and like to keep tabs on these things). To the right of that little panel is a relatively small panel that I might use for issuing utility commands, etc.
Then the rest of my workspaces are full-screen apps - browser, newsreader, etc., except in one I have my password vault running in half the screen. I have five work spaces, which means there are a couple for "whatever comes along I need to do." And of course I can hotkey around my workspaces. I can hotkey around the Terminator panels too. Also, in that IRC panel that's running screen on a virtual server I lease, and there are several screen windows there I can hotkey around. It's quite multi-dimensional.
This is not a multi-monitor setup. It's just the screen of a 13" notebook.
Having all the screens (window monitors) acting as one desktop is very suitable for my workflow. That's why I haven't switched to tiling WM only yet. The combination of KDE plasma + Krohnkite gives me the needed balance between customization, functionality & ease of use. However, there are some limitations to what a KWin script can do.
How easy is it to use compared to i3 or awesome. I've currently having troubles setting my awesome wm.
Tiling WM's are the best thing since sliced bread... /nice tie.
Love the point about the ultrawide monitors.
So you confirmed that tiling WMs are really only useful if you have a multi-monitor setup, and have finally acknowledged that every other arguments/advantages you usually give to tiling WM (possibility to tile, keyboard centric workflow etc) are all possible to achieve in almost every DE I know of. It's good to hear tho, cause other videos seemed dishonest to me, or at least wrong, when you bashed DE with false arguments. They can do almost everything... but they indeed handle workspaces in a weird way.
Mac OS has workspaces per monitor
I'm almost done making my own personalized DE from i3wm... I don't think I'll ever be able to go back to GNOME. I like it so much because I can do whatever I want with it. If GNOME developers decide to make your powermenu ugly, well that's what you're using now. Here I can customize everything.
Thank you DT. Looking good man!
Interview? Cause that is the only way I would wear that in Summer
Time Louisiana
Watching the whole video would answer your question ;)
@@gesuchter LOL I did. Don't buy laundry day. Our area of the U.S. is 100% humidity and near 100 degrees. No frigging way I would wear that this time of year
@@leviticus8930 Wholly smokes! DT probably compensates the temperatures with his coolness :o
@@gesuchter Brewery nearby?
That's what I was thinking lol
I wish UA-cam had the ability to categorize responses so that you could filter out comments about "the tie" and focus purely on the discussion about tiling window managers.
That's a very hypocritical comment if you think about it
@@gesuchter if you say so...
Speak of the devil, they added this but only to the mobile app.
Bang! There goes my brain.
I'll stick with my DE for now.
Man, forget tiling window managers, DT is killing it today with his outfit, 10/10.
Hitman
I've been experimenting with Qtile recently. It works. I don't hate it. I will say that it lets me open a window in full screen whereas in Xfce I can''t do that (I have to hit a key combo to enlarge it). But apart from that I just don't get the attraction.
Workspaces? I've got them in Xfce. Yes, as he points out in the video, all monitors are on the same workspace but that doesn't bother me. Keyboard shortcuts? I've got them in Xfce. I can use them to launch programs, switch workspaces, move windows, resize windows, and so on. A program launcher? Well, Xfce has one built in and if I don't like it I can install dmenu as well as any tiler. Tiler doesn't clutter your desktop with icons? I can turn all that off in Xfce. Tiler lets you remove the bar? I can delete the bar in Xfce.
I'll keep using Qtile for a while but so far I don't see a strong reason to permanently switch to it.
In your opinion- The best tiling window managers? Amount of processor capacity? Ram? and how best to port to multiple monitors? Do need to build extra ports into your pc set up?
Nice useful info, thanks.
A tiling manager is something that's with you for life and grows as you grow as a linux user
Hello, great video! but GNOME by default has *independent workspaces independent of the monitors* feature.
I don’t know about the time when this video was recorded but now macOS handle workspaces independently which is awesome. Sadly it’s not that smooth and customizable but it works!
My only problem with 'traditional' desktops is that I have to fiddle with it to allow me to use the screen reader and work with some efficiency and efficacy. I don't need the cursor to read everything in its path. The use a tiler as it is were using my phone. I don't need to read an ebook on my computer. I don't have time for it, however! I can use the command line to move files around and put them on a playlist on my phone. Tilers are really nice for accessibility... if you're willing to put in the work.
Agree, the real benefit of tiling WMs is the workflow with workspaces+tiling+keyboard.driven
aaaand let's not forget they are lighter
For me the killer feature for tiling window managers is how efficiently you can control them using the keyboard.
Of course the Workspace control play into that heavily!
Good video. I agree with many of your views. Why do you wear a tie?
I don't see why this feature couldn't be supported on a regular reparenting window manager. And in fact it baffles me that it isn't more widely supported. I used to have this flexibility in choosing workspaces for each monitor a long time ago by configuring each monitor as a separate X screen, and it was glorious. I compromised and use a single X screen nowadays because being able to move windows between screens is also useful. I try to make do by pinning some windows to all desktops, and having easy to use shortcuts for moving windows to specific desktops, but I really miss this separate desktop per monitor flexibility. I wonder what it would take to implement this in an existing regular window manager. It can't be that hard.
I was thinking about doing a video about the same topic, but you were faster ;)
Even on a single monitor, the workspaces are the best about twms. You save so much time searching for Apps. On a twm Apps are assigned to a particular workspace and when you want to get there all you have to do is going to this specific workspace.
On a traditional DE only very few people use the workspaces. Even I forgot to use Them when i'm on openbox :p on a twm IT is more natural ;)
So, thanks for this Video.
btw tie for tiling window manager video) nice touch)
As far as I can tell "Awesome" does it a bit differently. While what you described is having X amount of workspaces and being able to cast any of them on any screen you want (even workspace 4 on all screens if you want to), Awesome allows for every screen to have X amount of workspaces NOT shared between screens. You basically don't have X workspaces but you have "X * amount of screens" workspaces.
Don't get me wrong, the amount of workspaces is not really limited either way and tiling window managers are highly customizable by nature but I personally prefer to have fully independent screens by default. I like having my main windows on one screen while having communication apps like discord on another screen, so that switching from workspace 1 to workspace 2 has a different meaning based on my current screen.
Anyway, you pretty much summed up my reasons for switching from cinnamon to awesome (namely workspaces and keyboard driven workflow + customization).
Good point, yeah that's the dwm-style multihead approach, in contrary to xmonad/qtile etc, which Derek advocates. There's patches for dwm though, changing that to xmonad-style, and function for xmonad doing vice versa etc. I don't have multi monitors myself, so cannot really say my preference, though did thought about if ever getting such, then if would prefer my VM's(dwm) native multihead style, or xmonad's, and still unsure honestly. I'm guessing most prefer the xmonad-style, which makes sence, but I once read a commenter stating that it takes little more time to get used to the dwm-style, but is a better, more flexible approach in end, which I guess could be true, though of-course all about personal preference afterall. Anyway, just little comment on why awesome is like that I.e based upon dwm.
@@martinhertz4957 Thanks a lot for your input there. I appreciate it :)
Like all things, the most efficient way is the one that makes you more efficient. I have three 24" external monitors plus the 17" laptop itself and use Cinnamon on Arch (plus a Windows dual boot - been using Windows personally and professionally for approx 35 years). It all just works for me...
In Xorgs X11 ' multi-heads environment, there are 2 types for 'screens/display'.
1. Each monitor has it's own display's environment. Example ':0' for monitor 1, ':1' for monitor2.. A basick window manager such as, my favorite 'evelwm' handels each monotor seperately.
2. Twin view (Nvidia's terminology), combines all the monitors as single large display. So we can drags app's window seamlessly within monitor. But for basic window manager it handles as singgle display.
So, choose display type wisely. :)
Thank you.
It seems to me that implementing this feature in a floating window manager would be perfectly doable; the only complicating factor I can think of is deciding how per-monitor workspaces would interact with the ability to drag windows from one monitor to another, but that's by no means an insurmountable hurdle. I wonder why no floating window managers have taken a crack at it yet?
yeah, I remember a while I was thinking I would like that as an option. I probably would not use that setting all the time, but would be usefull sometimes.
it's really weird *none* of them have it (afaik).
@@mthf5839 That's exactly what I was thinking -- I'd like it as a mode that could be switched on and off with a hotkey so I could use it when I need it.
What you said about the Ultrawide monitors and being better off with two traditional monitors I kind of both agree and disagree with.
It's absolutely better for productivity, but not so much for content consumption.
My ultrawide monitor has something called PBP or Picture By Picture which allows you to plug in two cables and it will split itself into two monitors, so thats how I get around that issue.
Hey dt , why don't you make a video on weston window manager. There are almost no guides on it on the youtube.
I don't have multiple monitors but this really clears things up
I used dual monitors for a decade and for the past 14 months I've been using a 49" monitor. I'm never using dual monitors again. The bezels between my monitors was annoying.
Yeah no more dual monitor setup for me either. Got my self a 38" 3840x1600 monitor and it's awesome. (LG 38GN950-B)
Tie-ing workspaces managers! On laundry day you actually use more clothes than regular ones. I like bspwm, DWM, AwesomeWM and EXWM. Those don't switch monitors like that. With those you have completely independent workspaces (or tags) in each monitor. Each monitor keeps its own workspaces independently from other monitors.
It is cool and very customizable. Swapping workspaces between monitors is useful only in special cases. At least it can mess up my brain :)
Great work 🥳🥳🥳 Thank you 💜💜💜
I can sing every word, i'm sitting on KDE and usually every each application embedded-tiling, most application got one, and you don't need some specific software setup that you will invest time to learn how to work. The main feature of tiling-dm is workflow.
I'm running traditional Ubuntu with Gnome ever since the beginning of May, though a little bit customized. But I can see the advantages of tiling window managers.
@DistroTube I'm just so pedantic about where I want, how I want it, etc; there's no way to do that on a full-fledged DE. If I have to break my flow to do window things I take way too long getting back in to it.
But for real, tags >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> workspaces.
I use tiling window managers to make efficient use of a high dpi monitor. I have 27" 4k monitor running at 125% scale.
The tiling windows helps me view multiple windows.
I use pop os to switch between floating and tiling on the fly. This way if i need full screen of an app for myself i dont have to close other windows.
True, workspace management is good. However, for me, the true value was to force me to use keyboard shortcuts, in fact, that's what you seem to demonstrate in your video maybe without realizing it: shortcut: change desktop, shortcut: maximize, shortcut: reorganize, etc. Once you force yourself to use the keyboard, the workflow becomes more natural. Of course, in stacking WM you can do it but I usually default to going the lazy mouse way.
Let me start by saying I DO use Awesome WM now instead of i3 so I’m certainly not attacking tiling WMs-I love them. But there are definitely other DEs that support independent workspaces. I did it with KDE and I do it everyday with macOS. I have a dual-monitor setup and can set up as many workspaces as I want (virtual desktops) and have them be unique to each monitor. Switching between any of them is as quick as a keybinding. MacOS and KDE have been doing it for years now and even Windows supports it now. I did it with my Surface.
How is this possible with KDE?
That is a good point, but I think the reason that the multiple monitors can be on independent workspaces is for tiling window managers to place the windows in the correct layout on the screen. That would not work correctly if all the monitors were logically one screen in X windows. I respectfully disagree that it is a function of the window manager. I believe that is a function of the display server.
Tiling is traditional. Floating is nontraditional. Before Windows and Next released in their iconic forms, tiling was the norm, and in fact was the interface of Windows pre-3.
It's funny because in an abstract way, he's contradicting himself. You can view these workspaces as tiles. I don't use multiple monitors, and I don't know the last time I had more than 6 or 7 windows open at the same time, but I do use tags (with dwm). I do so much in a terminal now that my X usage is pretty much limited to browsing the Web with JS or reading documents (usually PDFs) with images in them.
In essence, the tiling window manager (TWM) is optimization and organization. Most "normal" DEs/WMs just slap windows wherever they please and expect you to adjust the size via mouse. The TWM method is about limiting your mouse use to when you only really need it.
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Why do people use xmonad over qtile. Shouldn’t qtile be better since it uses a more mainstream language.
Edit: Asking since I wanna start using a tiling manager and Im not sure whether to use qtile or xmonad
It's a good idea to start your adventure with an easy-to-learn window manager. And it doesn't have to be configurable with a programming language at all. i3 has a simple text-based configuration file.
Just start using any tiling window manager and check if this workflow suits you. Only then should you reach for the more complicated TWMs.
I started on the i3 and then moved on to herbstluftwm, although sometimes I go back to the i3.
I believe with both xrandr and herbslutwm independently can both offer the ability to "split" a singe physical monitor into multiple virtual monitors. That way you have the benefit of dual/tripple monitors but also no bezels.
9:06, I do not agree with this.
If you have a ultrawide monitor, you can virtually split up the screen in 3 and have them all act as 3 monitors.
I'm just speaking of my mind, but it should be possible
Gnome has a setting in the Tweaks App that enables independent monitor workspaces. I don't know good that feature is because I only have one display. But GNOME does have that feature and I think other DEs have it too (hidden somewhere in the settings).
That setting in Gnome allows to switch workspaces only on primary display, other displays are treated as separate but static workspaces. Still better than having a workspace span all displays
I need my DE-style workspaces, because my monitors are not at the same resolution, and one of them is rotated counter-clockwise
I actually had a problem with windows' implementation of window management. I had the same problem with Cinnamon (Mint's DE). Its that if I want a text editor on one side and 2 terminals on the other side I just can't. Well I mean I could drag and realize but it was really frustrating. And yeah the workspaces thing. I have not used windows/cinnamon long enough so I can't say how frustrating it is.
I use a tiling wm and I dont use workspaces lol.
I didn't use workspaces when I used a traditional desktop environment either.
I dont really get the workspaces thing
looking fresh dude
I like to use my computer in such a way that I don't want to think about HOW to do a thing, so when I pop a window I don't want to have to move it around and put it in place, with tilling WM I launch a window and is tiled, I can then, with a single shortcut, either tab it or untab it, its fast and way more straighforward. I use i3wm, I haven't used any other WM or tried any other because with i3wm I get everything I want without having to think about how I want it, all my keybinds are custom to be the most ergonomical around the most used ones and also around vim keybindings so I don't have to think about it, status bars are lean and only show the information I really need so that I can worry, at all times, only with the task I'm performing, and tbh, I don't really use workspaces, sometimes if I leave my computer on for multiple overnights because I'm working on personnal projects and also having to work on the work projects I might have multiple workspaces, but other than that I just work with i3wm trees and containers
Maybe someone already said that but on mac you have the same spaces from the box, but you still don't have this awesome feature with windows placing. for that I using yabai and skhd
Can't you do all of that on MacOS except for the tiling feature? You have independent virtual desktops, regardless of monitors, and apps can be assigned to specific desktops. The only difference is the tiling feature, which is cool to be fair.
Only have 1 monitor. I use i3wm because is has tabbed mode. Love it.
Holy S**t!!! I literally never go multi-monitor for this exact reason. I always thought, what's the point of having more than one monitor if everything changes on the extra monitor for no reason at all. Independent workspace per monitor is what I've always wanted. I've even researched over the years, people always ask about it in forums and nobody ever says, switch to a tiling window manager, they will have this feature. ffs!
On Gnome when I play things like UA-cam Music a persistent notification shows with controls for pause, next, etc. Is there a way to achieve that in a tiling wm?
4:29 I see a gentoo org file, more gentoo videos coming up ?
maybe, he also said he will probably put gentoo on his personal computer when he gets one
Windows also has a powerful window tiling manager like komorebi.
I think tiling window managers shine on single monitor setups because they use space very efficiently and moving windows to and switching to workspaces is really fast and easy.
Interesting I have five work spaces on a 34 inch split screen ultra wide and i love it every workspace has a purpose and i can send one of the split screens to any workspace.
Yeah like the tie..... going court? Lol's Best explanation of tiling wm's yet, I will try them out after I get arch set up on my new computer.. Btw any suggestions on adding an existing home directory drive to arch?
I use bspwm and have 20 workspaces enabled. Max I use is 14-15
I know this is old, but I find people who use multiple monitors are horribly inefficient and distracted. I don't understand it. I use tiling window managers because fluff and wasted space is the devil. That and because of the control and customization you get out of it. I hope everyone who uses multiple monitors wakes up and learns the truth 😋
Tiling windows managers
And
Tieling DT is awesome XD
I agree. I've used plasma, now I'm testing gnome, but I'm really missing my awesome wm or xmonad
DT looking sharp today :D
I only use a laptop with a small 15 inch 1920x1080 display and no additional monitors. Do you think tiling window managers would still make a difference?
This critically depends on your workflow, for instance, how dependent/tolerant it is on overlapping windows, pairing (tripling, ...) applications on the screen, and so on. A TW may be the best fit for you or may be just meh and distraction.
How does this monitor switching work with monitors with (wildly) varying resolutions? Then keeping all windows in the same position doesn't necessarily makes sense. For instance, having a vertical monitor next to a (horizontal) ultrawide.
Hey DT, what's your recommendation for a tiling window manager for an absolute beginner?
So this strikes me as undermining the whole argument. Your pleasure with tiling window managers isn't the tiling - it's some other feature that just happens to have become common in tiling managers. There's no reason a floating manager couldn't also support the sort of workspace manipulations you describe here. They just haven't tended to do so. But someone could create that anytime, actually.
I do think what you've just described seem useful. But it's no longer an argument for tiling window managers "per se."
I see no technical reason floating WMs can't also deal with multi-display workspaces this way. Apparently they just don't?
I want a window manager that is as easy to configure as weechat with just as many options and settings but with the ability to control it with a mouse and shortcut keys, So something like plasma but that is lightweight and uses much less ram and cpu resources.
That's an excellent shirt.
Do tiling window managers have issues with screen tearing? Also, would a tiling window manager be better than say GNOME or KDE on a laptop?
You'll need to run a compositor like "picom" to remove tearing since the tiling window managers I've used will tear without one.
Also, I use a tiling window manager on my laptop which is nice, because I don't have to always use a mouse or touchpad, and it doesn't use as much resources like Gnome, or KDE.
hey dt, are you using any undervolting software on ur laptops? can you recommend anything?
Qué elegancia de Mr. DT!