How to do the one handed roll/push pull/drop bounce (the Buddy Rich left hand)

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  • Опубліковано 30 лип 2016
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    This video was so out of date and actually embarrassing for me to watch. So, I made a new one and included the link just above here. Thanks for watching.

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  • @45echo
    @45echo  2 роки тому +3

    STOP! This video is sooo old it’s terrible. 🙂 Please check out my updated version here:
    ua-cam.com/video/0K5kk8soc20/v-deo.html

  • @SteveStockmalMusic
    @SteveStockmalMusic 4 роки тому +7

    Cool man, thanks !!
    2:52 Push-pull (Open closed) technique
    4:36 Thumb push and pull
    6:19 Shows you that it can be done with a knife, cuts all of his drum heads, slices his fingers, decides...”not such a great idea” ! Lol
    6:57 You should have tried to do it with that piano !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    7:47 “Valving” technique using multiple fingers
    9:12 Left hand Open closed (Buddy Rich style)
    10:38 Drop bounce
    12:02 Swivel from Benny
    13:48 Everything combined...put on your set belts lads, this guy is KILLIN it . : )
    15:00 One handed roll
    15:36 Girlfriend finally understands the reason for me practicing this so much on her (sorry, couldn’t resist).
    Great job, great playing, great tutorial !!!!!!

  • @louiediana2
    @louiediana2 3 роки тому +7

    Excellent!
    Thank you so much for sharing your talent & teaching skills.

  • @HarryJoiner
    @HarryJoiner 7 років тому +9

    man that technique is gorgeous. youtube can be so enlightening and depressing at the same time. THANKS FOR ALL YOU DO AND SHARE!

    • @45echo
      @45echo  7 років тому +1

      Harry Joiner Thank you! No problem :) cheers!

  • @btrtv224
    @btrtv224 7 років тому +22

    Haters and critics everywhere! Beavis & Butthead? I can't believe you said that. This guy's great. Keep it up Reuben... High marks all the way around!

    • @45echo
      @45echo  7 років тому +4

      Thank you! Cheers!

  • @johnmercurio340
    @johnmercurio340 3 роки тому +6

    Great job buddy!! You have crazy skills at such a young age. Don't ever stop playing and I'm sure you know but I'll say it always use those techniques musically. Live it right and playing drums and music will be a hell of a ride. No pun intended!!!

  • @eelamite
    @eelamite 10 місяців тому

    i remember seeing this when i was like 16-17 and i was astonished - esp when your updated new video came out - around 2020-2021 and now i'm getting better but i cant forget stuff like this that helped me so much along the way

  • @thewelshwizard5869
    @thewelshwizard5869 3 роки тому +4

    You make it look so easy, and of course, it’s not. Great job. 🙂👍

  • @julianvich6067
    @julianvich6067 6 років тому +4

    Amazing drummer, great technique!! BTW, I also have those pencil sticks! A present from one of my students. Thank you so much Reuben, you're a great teacher also.

  • @mattbba8451
    @mattbba8451 9 місяців тому

    Thank you. That also explains how the re-grip keeps the stick in your hand instead of flying off over the drum. Beautiful.

  • @TheStudioDrummer
    @TheStudioDrummer 7 років тому +4

    This is my favorite video on the push pull tech because it's so much fun!

    • @45echo
      @45echo  7 років тому +1

      Awesome!!!

  • @rabbigabrielbenor6795
    @rabbigabrielbenor6795 5 років тому +1

    Thank you, Reubin. Very nice presentation. Clear, concise, effective - now if I could just find those sneakers at the mall...

  • @bartmastin3272
    @bartmastin3272 5 років тому +2

    This is great! Thank you Reuben!

  • @SuperDrumsforever
    @SuperDrumsforever 5 років тому

    Wow ! You have great techniques. Totally cool video. Thank you for sharing.

  • @Thedrummersalmanac
    @Thedrummersalmanac 4 роки тому +2

    Hey Rueben, great brushwork!

  • @tiredrummertube
    @tiredrummertube 6 років тому +1

    You are inspiring as well !! THX for this

  • @xblood1978
    @xblood1978 6 років тому +2

    Amazing exactly what I was looking for ....thankyou man

  • @binkwood
    @binkwood 7 років тому +1

    Very cool, great job!

  • @TheAlbiCollier
    @TheAlbiCollier 6 років тому

    Thanks so.much this is the best drum video covering the subjects in it... great work!

  • @pinball1970
    @pinball1970 3 роки тому +1

    Great stuff!!!

  • @MikeJamesMedia
    @MikeJamesMedia 9 місяців тому

    Excellent! Great, fun playing. :)

  • @taylorbyrd5557
    @taylorbyrd5557 6 років тому +1

    wow I'm in love. lol. great vid

  • @bacobill
    @bacobill 5 років тому

    Wonderful information and examples thank you muchly

  • @ramajaya811
    @ramajaya811 6 років тому +1

    Halo Reubenm thank you so much for the push pull technique, applied for traditional grip, i have been searching to find this tutorial

  • @peacefulbliss1
    @peacefulbliss1 3 роки тому

    Great lesson, great playing, thanks for sharing!

    • @45echo
      @45echo  3 роки тому +1

      Thank you! 🙏 Please check back again in a week or a month. My goal is to create new content and start to replace all these old videos I recorded. 🙂

  • @alonzovillarreal4666
    @alonzovillarreal4666 7 днів тому

    Nice brushes!! ❤

  • @shaynelurman7369
    @shaynelurman7369 4 роки тому +1

    you are really great man!

  • @DDooMRooMM
    @DDooMRooMM 7 років тому +1

    You're amazing!

  • @19tet
    @19tet 3 роки тому

    I remember watching this when I didn't know how to o it at all. fastforward to around 9 months later, I have somewhat of a grasp to it!

  • @EqDior
    @EqDior 5 років тому +2

    Dude your a beast!

  • @UpesDioniel-ad63
    @UpesDioniel-ad63 6 місяців тому

    Fantastic

  • @jeffbennett9992
    @jeffbennett9992 Рік тому

    Damn. I'm so glad I discovered YOU !!!! I'm a huge buddy rich fan along with Dick Cully and Joe Ascione. You are an amazing young man and I will certainly be following and keeping an eye out for you!!!! My name is Jeff Bennett. Thanks Man!

  • @fcontitwo
    @fcontitwo 7 років тому +2

    ✨✨very impressive !!!🤔✨✨👍🏽#you'd make Buddy proud !😎

  • @richardburger3853
    @richardburger3853 7 років тому +8

    Very gifted player! And teacher! Thanks for sharing those drum techniques! l am going to wood shed on the material. God bless!

    • @45echo
      @45echo  7 років тому

      Thank you! CHeers!

  • @kaakatin
    @kaakatin 4 роки тому

    Thank you, that explained why my push pull is so quiet. I'm doing the thumb version. Now I have to figure out what to change to get to the first version.

  • @lindajohnson9281
    @lindajohnson9281 4 роки тому +1

    Youre a Genius

  • @DanyMeyer
    @DanyMeyer 6 років тому +1

    Really cool lesson Reuben! Way to go! I like the sunglass-technique :-) haha :-)

  • @jamesberlo4298
    @jamesberlo4298 7 років тому +3

    You got a Bruce Lee Shirt on ? You are a Bruce Lee of Drummers ! EXCELLENT ! thank you .

    • @45echo
      @45echo  7 років тому +2

      Thank you :) Yes, I actually made the shirt myself!

  • @blessedjames5698
    @blessedjames5698 3 роки тому +1

    very helpful

  • @diffusiventity
    @diffusiventity 7 років тому

    love your videos man. really informative. I've watch Modern Techniques god knows how many times but have still managed to learn things from this vid. Guess sometimes an off the cuff presentation style can help! Especially small tweaks and idiosyncracies at higher speeds to fulcrum etc that really make the technique work! Cheers

  • @Psycho9263
    @Psycho9263 7 років тому

    Nice Work!

  • @baldurmoizisch6905
    @baldurmoizisch6905 Рік тому

    fascinating!

  • @DarkHorizonStudios
    @DarkHorizonStudios 6 років тому

    Nice work on the vid, Rueben. I really like how you break down the push pull by first showing it at full speed and then slowing it down to a great degree, so that the individual sub-movements can be put together.

    • @45echo
      @45echo  6 років тому

      Jazz_Cat Thanks for the kind words! Glad you liked it! cheers

  • @ironmike7601
    @ironmike7601 6 років тому

    Awesome video!! Thank you!

    • @45echo
      @45echo  6 років тому

      iron mike no problem :)

  • @domsturgess5290
    @domsturgess5290 7 років тому +2

    most enjoyable lesson vid around. keep it living room style as the quality is already there with the presenter!

    • @45echo
      @45echo  7 років тому

      Thanks!!!

  • @lancemeliota9364
    @lancemeliota9364 7 років тому

    wow. did not expect much from this video but I am glad i clicked on it. I think You are an amazing drummer and i sure did learn a lot. Keep it up.

    • @45echo
      @45echo  7 років тому

      Thats awesome! Thank you !!!

  • @anyITsolution
    @anyITsolution 7 років тому +2

    Carried away there with the glasses😂 thanks for the samples and close up

    • @45echo
      @45echo  7 років тому

      :) No problem. Cheers!

  • @chrismcmullen4525
    @chrismcmullen4525 3 роки тому

    Good video.

  • @clarkewi
    @clarkewi 6 років тому

    Great sound.

    • @45echo
      @45echo  6 років тому

      clarkewi thanks!

  • @philippruckert8221
    @philippruckert8221 7 років тому

    Great video and awesome demo!!! :-)

    • @45echo
      @45echo  7 років тому

      Thank you!!! Cheers!

  • @DIEGO55762
    @DIEGO55762 6 років тому

    My bro excelent at last i found out .thanks for tell me that magic hand technics nobody in 40 years, told me that i'm gonna try ..thanks again and god bless you.

    • @45echo
      @45echo  6 років тому

      Diego carreño hey no problem! Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @davemarkmunro3079
    @davemarkmunro3079 7 років тому

    I think your a cool drummer man. Cheers for the information, I can't wait till your mastering all these nice, inspiring ways to do chops. Has oped a few doors for me however its going to take a lot of hard work to get somewhere close to where you were in this video.
    I hope you make it big, you deserve it. your a VERY POSITIVE guy and that is something that will make others want to learn. Please do another video about these techniques in the future just so people can see the progress that you WILL make!

    • @45echo
      @45echo  7 років тому

      Thank you! More videos are on the way :)

  • @jimyouknow
    @jimyouknow 6 років тому

    Great video God bless

  • @vic3925
    @vic3925 6 років тому

    great man, lots of humor also

    • @45echo
      @45echo  6 років тому

      Jean-Victor de Boer thank you :)

  • @Pure_KodiakWILD_Power
    @Pure_KodiakWILD_Power 7 років тому +1

    you have a pretty good handle on those techniques, brother. and the name of the muscle you mentioned is "bicep."
    thanks for sharing. keep rocking.

  • @emilianoromero3452
    @emilianoromero3452 5 років тому

    Saludos desde Argentina la verdad sos un genioooo

  • @pnsmexico
    @pnsmexico 6 років тому

    for a young guy, you are really, really phenomenal!

    • @45echo
      @45echo  6 років тому

      pnsmexico thank you ☺

  • @wolfgangbuck841
    @wolfgangbuck841 6 років тому

    Thanks man!

  • @phililiades9920
    @phililiades9920 7 років тому

    great video man keep it up!

    • @45echo
      @45echo  7 років тому

      THank you! :)

  • @jonfcartwright479
    @jonfcartwright479 6 років тому

    Ha! Stud. Impressive! You got it going on so…Just a rant from me …Thanks. Love T-Willie reference As a awe struck kid , met him after his show at the bar..Offered to buy him a drink, ordered top self cognac… wow but least I could do… Great man. Jeff Hamilton? Didn't know he was still making it happen … that mention of yours brings me back to a lesson with him way back in the 80s. I Had no clue - all he worked on with me was my stick bounce on the ride. A very patient and cool guy... loved seeing the brush work- a lost art- reminded me of Ed Thigpen.. ✌️

    • @45echo
      @45echo  6 років тому

      Jon F Cartwright Very cool! Thanks for the kind words :)

  • @kevinjohnanand
    @kevinjohnanand 6 років тому +2

    Thanks for the video! I'll definitely be practicing this now. Do you practice both hands or just your right hand with this technique?

  • @IRo415
    @IRo415 6 років тому

    Just found your YT channel and the push/pull Jojo M technique. Thanks tons for a great instructional vid. Wish you were in SFBAY area... I would take lessons from you (just with drum sticKS though... LOL).

  • @sanjeevtambe8382
    @sanjeevtambe8382 9 місяців тому

    Very nice.sir

  • @nabinnyc
    @nabinnyc 6 років тому

    This is the best fucking video I've ever seen. I'm blown away by the casual and truly up close look at your impressive command of these sick techniques. I've got such a long awesome road ahead! Also I'm typing this like halfway through because I needed to take a break from laughing my ass off. "Nope. Not sunglasses." 🤘😂🤘😂🤘😂🤘😂🤘😂🤘😂🤘

  • @user-hu3fj8fo9i
    @user-hu3fj8fo9i 7 років тому

    Thank you. I hope Korea also wish people like you ^^

    • @45echo
      @45echo  7 років тому

      Thank you!!! :)

  • @buddypoorbuddyrich1764
    @buddypoorbuddyrich1764 5 років тому

    ruben was'up,,still workin i hope.thanks man,,saw philly jo jones at buddys place nyc 1974;have you seen philly do his brush work...buddy, me, jon bunch, a light crowd, saw him on buds drums.never have seen any man on his drums so he watched philly like a hawk.flipping the brushz.ciao bp

  • @wxmachinegun
    @wxmachinegun 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for posting this video; I have long been stuck at a single-stroke speed plateau and just started to dive deeper into different hand techniques. This video is incredibly helpful and inspiring in that regard.
    On the first push-pull you demonstrate, I notice that you’re using a middle-finger fulcrum with your index finger loose and pointing down. I checked out a Gordy Knudtsen video about push-pull and he uses an index-finger fulcrum. What are the advantages to using the middle finger rather than the index? Should I learn it one way, both, or just go with whatever feels most natural?

  • @vernonfreeman6639
    @vernonfreeman6639 7 років тому

    great stuff. Keep it up

    • @vernonfreeman6639
      @vernonfreeman6639 7 років тому

      I had the JoJo Mayer DVDs for a while and this is the closest that I have seen on UA-cam. without the flamboyant Hollywood backdrop , you are presenting this wrong and with perfection. for UA-cam presenters , need to watch this and see that all the unnecessary backdrop it's definitely not necessary. especially, when you don't know what you're doing. Young man, you got it together. Keep it up!!

    • @vernonfreeman6639
      @vernonfreeman6639 7 років тому

      somehow my computer says you are presenting this wrong. that is a typo. you are presenting this in a very significant and in a breathtaking way. excuse the typos. The system will not let me take it out

    • @45echo
      @45echo  7 років тому

      Thank you for the kind words!!! Cheers!

    • @vernonfreeman6639
      @vernonfreeman6639 7 років тому

      You're welcome!

  • @eelamite
    @eelamite 10 місяців тому

    this is abt to reach 100k 2ooh!!

  • @Johne.8250
    @Johne.8250 5 років тому +3

    I see the push/pull mechanics at slow tempo, but when it speeds up ur fingers are practically still

  • @Chickbonbon
    @Chickbonbon 7 років тому +4

    Sun glasses! haha

  • @THET3TONY
    @THET3TONY 6 років тому

    Right on! "most enjoyable lesson vid around. keep it living room style as the quality is already there with the presenter!" Ditto

    • @45echo
      @45echo  6 років тому

      Tony Kirk hey thanks for the kind words!

  • @richardspicer4738
    @richardspicer4738 6 років тому +2

    Hey Rueben, you’re an amazing drummer and teacher. I’ve been working on this and getting pretty good at the power technique, however, I’m struggling with the speed technique where you employed the thumb. I was wondering if you can do an in depth video on that one showing the mechanics? Thank you

    • @ROOSON1
      @ROOSON1 6 років тому +2

      this video goes pretty in depth on that (the guy is crazy good at it) and at some point they have a slo mo of it in there which i thought was really helpful

  • @dalestandard1095
    @dalestandard1095 6 років тому

    Love this video. Wish this guy was my next door neighbor. I'd mow his lawn and wash his car for free to get one on one lessons. Great job. And now, I prepare to be frustrated and mad at my hands for not being able to do the things he's doing here in this video. Practice. Practice. Then practice. All the while trying to maintain patience while trying to unlearn the bad habits I've developed over many years. Grrrrr…….

    • @45echo
      @45echo  6 років тому

      Dale Standard Hahahah I wouldn’t mind that! Thanks for watching!

  • @bikashnath115
    @bikashnath115 6 років тому

    You r really teacher

  • @m.rmalakadrums2047
    @m.rmalakadrums2047 3 роки тому

    Nice

  • @jubinych
    @jubinych 7 років тому

    Great brushes work bruh

    • @45echo
      @45echo  7 років тому

      Thank you!

  • @johnsondrums7432
    @johnsondrums7432 7 років тому +1

    Brother, thank you for this killer vid. You're ridiculous!
    Also, thank you for ruining my weekend.

    • @45echo
      @45echo  7 років тому +1

      Thank you, :) sorry!

  • @meteortheband
    @meteortheband 7 років тому

    thank u reuben!

    • @45echo
      @45echo  7 років тому +1

      No problem :)

  • @mikediantonio4952
    @mikediantonio4952 7 років тому

    GREAT GREAT JOB BUDDY WOULD BE PROUD OF YOU. MIKEY D THE WORLDS GREATEST UNKNOWN DRUMMER

    • @45echo
      @45echo  7 років тому

      Thank you!!!

  • @kevpow09
    @kevpow09 6 років тому +4

    Incredible technical ability! What is with the thumbs down people? Jealousy rears its ugly head... Thanks for the help!

    • @goseeaboutagirl
      @goseeaboutagirl 3 роки тому +1

      They couldn't get the *Thumb* push pull to work 😂

  • @shiritzhaki5333
    @shiritzhaki5333 7 років тому

    . i love your videos man! and thanks for introducing me jojo's dvd

    • @45echo
      @45echo  7 років тому

      Thank you!!! No problem :)

  • @7caesar719
    @7caesar719 7 років тому +1

    What Camera are you using please, great job bro!!!

  • @lindajohnson9281
    @lindajohnson9281 4 роки тому

    I saw drumeos video which was about your hacks and accessories etc what i was impressed was ur playing. That hand speed was incredible. How do u do that ? Ive wanted to know that drumline playing thingys name for a long time and i want to learn it so badly.

  • @michaelvazquez2234
    @michaelvazquez2234 6 років тому

    I have been working and working on this and have watched other video's about one handed rolls. I can't seem to get the hang of it. So frustrating.

  • @emilde12
    @emilde12 6 років тому

    How long did it take you to develop that push pull technique at tha speed? Sounds great! Any exercise suggestions?

  • @netzah3488
    @netzah3488 7 років тому +1

    Encouragement to you; Exhaustive study into the (many) avenues of the techniques to play the one handed roll. This is why one is looking up this particular aspect on U tube,(one of the best teaching aids and tools to 'learn how to learn', pretty much anything). At the present, what brought oneself to look further into defining a grip both left and right, match and traditional, was developing 'feel' for up tempo swing, 400 bpm, smooth with feel, sustainable and enduring. 400 with the 5 stroke rolls and the rest of the trimmings, both left and right hand lead, with all the comping, ie (check out sacha k, advanced jazz beat combinations( basic jazz ride pattern, incorporating basic bass drum and snare combinations, as starting reference, and learning both left handed and right handed lead(this is ones personal quest)I see people 'talking about whatever goes for the left, goes for the right, but name but one who can play it left hand setup exactly the same dynamic setup right handed,( not many if any). The truth is, one will always favor one side more then the other.(there is a old proverb that says; know, that no man or woman can serve two masters; they will prefer one over the other. In drums though it is case of striving to achieve an evenness and continuity dynamic wise between the left and right. No greater example is this experienced in the exercise of learning to play a decent 'single stroke roll'. In the case of Up tempo swing, At 300, this is the standard. However there are scary cats out there, swing-in at 400, and with crazy good feel,( Trilok Gurtu). Technique, yes, it is a vehicle to get one to where one wants to go, the land of 'FEEL' However, to be 'balanced' and ooze 'Feel' is what its all about isn't it? The fact that 'nothing is impossible, to them that believe,( hearing it and doing it= 'practice', lots of it, and the 'attitude', to 'never give up'. The motivation, the ulterior motivation(s) behind 'why' does one do what one does, is where the true foundation and 'substance' of what a man or woman is truly defined as a person. This is the question one must ask oneself. Here is an analogy that is food for thought. The pure person will be stuck on a island with nobody around to impress, and no chance of getting off the island ever. the person who has, 'the 'peace' to go beyond the passion, to practice they're talent and further they're craft or talent, will 'love' what they do and 'grow' always,to get better and better, irrespective of 'attention, notoriety, fame or fortune. One of the rewards will be 'learning' itself, and seeing the improvement with each passing of the time. Music and musicians are like different types of fruit. Everybody wants to bring something good to the table, for those to enjoy and walk away wishing to return for a little bit more. However, the Greatest Wisdom is to seek not the fruit, (in this case, the music, the instrument chosen to learn, or the musician most inspired by, to worship like some demigod,), instead it is the most prudent to seek the source of where the fruit came from in the first place; and give praise to that, because in every due season, there will be an abundance of fruit to eat and enjoy from that life giving tree. When and where does 'inspiration' come from? Us or, is it, through us? As with music and a song; everything in this world has an author or a responsible artist. Likewise when i go to the beach and watch a beautiful sunset, i am in awe and deep thankfulness to witness something not fashioned or made by the hands of man. To Whom do i 'thank' then? For what it is worth, thank you for sharing your studies and progression. Love your work, in particular like some of your brush work. If there was a good reason why we are all here on this earth, then ones personal belief, would be; simply, to help each-other. Thank-you for helping with exploring ideas and permutations that may best work for a particular individual willing to invest the time and practice. Remember; D verses D; Distance verses Desire, The stronger your 'desire' to learn ones craft, the further 'distance' one will evidently go in it. Doing something for the right reasons will 'concentrate' and steel ones focus and resolve; however being motivated by the wrong reasons will bring a 'diluted' exposure that will not endure. Respect Always

    • @45echo
      @45echo  7 років тому

      Thank you!!!

  • @buddypoorbuddyrich1764
    @buddypoorbuddyrich1764 5 років тому

    hey ruben do you have any tapes of old vegas shows 50 60z.62 is smokin

  • @76steve76
    @76steve76 5 років тому +1

    question: when is push pull technique used?Id use it on y right hand playing ride cymble patterns.Ive seen people here on you tube use it for double and single strokes with hands alternating , but I dont think its the best technique for playing rudiments or fills?

    • @timwatersondrummer
      @timwatersondrummer 4 роки тому

      steve steve I use push pull on my right hand all The time

  • @onceovereasy1529
    @onceovereasy1529 3 роки тому

    I've been playin' for years...great video....always learning.....thanks Reuben!

  • @TheStudioDrummer
    @TheStudioDrummer 7 років тому

    Thanks for the fun vid Reuben. How long did it take you to get this down? How much did you work on it?

    • @45echo
      @45echo  7 років тому

      NO problem :) Just the basic push pull was maybe 4-5 months to a year? (don't quite remember the timeline). I first saw it on Jojos DVD but it wasn't till quite a bit later that i went back to learn it! I wanted to get all the other things like Moeller down first! But when you get one down, the other ones will come along a lot faster! Cheers!

  • @timwatersondrummer
    @timwatersondrummer 7 років тому

    Nice job, and Great close ups with the pad,Also using sunglasses never tried that funny stuff.
    Ihave used many versions of Push pull and also do the reverse Moeller with the trad as it seems easier for me
    have you seen Zac Sullivan? had that to the next level before he passed RIP
    Also check out Ramon Montagner for the next level of push pull...
    FYI You might want to check out offworld percussion pads as they wont flaal off your leg

    • @45echo
      @45echo  7 років тому

      Thank you for the kind words! Will check the pads and the other guys out! Cheers! :)

  • @medallion39
    @medallion39 5 років тому

    Who had the hand technique dvd you first mentioned? Can’t make out what you said

  • @facudemario3825
    @facudemario3825 5 років тому

    how much did it take for you to at least get a good hang of it? great video!

  • @Johne.8250
    @Johne.8250 5 років тому

    Is ur thumb doing all work when going faster on the on handed roll

  • @plasticgodzilla1
    @plasticgodzilla1 7 років тому

    Hey Reuben,
    first of all a big compliment to your channel. The material you provide is just great, while you seem to be a really nice guy also!
    So here is my story: I think i stumbled across your technique video three month ago and have since then, been constantly practicing all of that technique stuff (again). Most of it works out quite well and me overall technique seems improved. Only that push-pull left hand really bothers me. It just doesn't benefit me and i'm still a lot quicker using my naturally grown technique..
    So how did you approch this? Are you really trying to incorparate that technique while playing freely? Or is it more a thing of pure technique pratice and then waiting for the technique to take over naturally? How long did it take for you to really feel the benefits of all that practice?
    Cheers,
    Malte

    • @45echo
      @45echo  7 років тому

      Hi, thank you for the kind words! :) These techniques take quite a while to get down but once you do it feels great! I don't really remember how long they took me. I remember learning about the basic push pull from an old Jojo clinic vid from the 90's. And then after that I slowly chipped away at it. It probably took me over a year to get it down. But learning the other ones happened a lot faster after that. As far as application, once it becomes comfortable enough it will seep into your playing. Just like if you practice moeller technique and try to build a groove around technique, it will feel very awkward and won't sound good because you will be over thinking it and you won't have any musical thought put in it. But if you practice moeller or push pull to the point of being comfortable with them, they should naturally turn into the way you move the sticks. Which is all it is, just another way to move the sticks.
      You also said---"It just doesn't benefit me and i'm still a lot quicker using my naturally grown technique.."
      That is totally fine! If you are already comfortable moving the sticks in your own way and are not limited by sound, speed or pain then you don't need to change anything! Cheers! :)

    • @plasticgodzilla1
      @plasticgodzilla1 7 років тому

      Thank you for your in detail reply!! :)
      I guess i'll just have to carry on experimenting with snare angles and keep practicing this stuff over and over.
      By looking at guys like Morello or Rich you can obviously tell, that there has to be something (magic) to it. So i won't give up for now..
      Ahhh, the push-pull - it's the hardest.. but someday.. :D
      Keep drumming and all the best for your new Drumeo job!! Malte

    • @45echo
      @45echo  7 років тому +1

      No problem! :) Thank you for stoping by! Never give up, it will work someday. Thats what I had to tell myself when I started learning it. Just had to chip away at it little by little everyday. And eventually it slowly got more comfortable. Had I given up and just said "this is too hard or impossible" I would still be where I started. Always picture the end result and never tell yourself you can't do it! Fake your brain into thinking you can do it and eventually it will work. Cheers! Thank you! I start the Drumeo job on Monday!!! :D

  • @Hamo_i.t.a.y
    @Hamo_i.t.a.y 3 роки тому

    😍😍😍

  • @SJNrider500
    @SJNrider500 4 роки тому

    Hi Reuben. Whose hand technique book did you mention? Thanks, Steve

  • @mikemike7345
    @mikemike7345 5 років тому +1

    I have the push-pull technique down my problem is getting faster I do 70 BPM with a metronome what's 16 notes but I can't seem to get any faster if you have any recommendations thank you

    • @buddypoorbuddyrich1764
      @buddypoorbuddyrich1764 5 років тому

      do triplets 4z 5z or 6z beats for one drop.mr riches stick twirls ...secret its floating n bouncing ..shuffle it and no moves...squeeze da hand..ya

  • @STUCATZOMARINE
    @STUCATZOMARINE 6 років тому

    When you did your brush work , how did you not have your brushes running into each other at that fast pace .

    • @45echo
      @45echo  6 років тому

      STUCATZOMARINE practice :)