100% nailed it Barra. Pick 13. Now way in hell. How quarters can justify losing pick 13, is beyond me. The kind of thinking that has sent the club into this spiral
@john-murraynewman-scotch6567 lol players cant be forced to sign contracts. They might be banned (or whatever the penalty is) but they can absolutely refuse to sign a contract. Its happened before.
Perryman for pick 16, Battle for pick 8. Baker for 13 is fine and Richmond would love it. Bolton is better than all of them so early pick and a future 1st rounder. Tigers in a great position. West ozzies are so full of themselves. I lived there for 20 years and so happy to get out.
Tom Barrass key back, contracted for 3 years 28 turning 29 for start of next season. Liam Baker, uncontracted 26 turning 27 start of next season. Baker for pick 23, Barrass to Hawks for pick 13 and future first.
Fuck no 😂 You're not getting future first and 13 from Hawthorn, you can keep tom at 29 with back issues in a rebuild and we can keep 13, you lose Baker and we keep a strong club in west coast weak for an extended amount of years at the bottom. You'd also potentially disengage Tom Barrass from your goal as a club as you failed to keep your word on your promise to him contractually with a hand shake over pay increase.
We'll hold onto Barrass then and use pick 23 for Baker. TB is being offered $1m a season for 4 years - he's also contracted for 3 more years. WCE should demand a kings ransom. As for disengagement, I don't buy into that - TB has consistently expressed a desire to stay at the club for the right price. Happy to renegotiate his contract and keep him rather than let him go for peanuts. Pick 13 is being pushed back with every father son & compo pick.
Barra is spot on - no way Freo should pay 9&10 (now 10 and 11 with the garbage compo picks) and no way West Coast should pay 13. Both clubs would be getting fisted by richmond in that scenario.
Seems the expectation of late is that interstate teams do ridiculous deals at trade time. Forget it. Why not apply the same rigour expected of VFL teams??
It shows none of the commentary below has come from Richmond supporters. Liam Baker is easily Richmond's best player, and has been for some time. I'm devastated he's leaving. Pick 13 for a tried and tested gun is an absolute bargain compared to a 'maybe' in the draft. You'll see how good he is if you're lucky enough to get him.
Freo are not trading 9 and 10 for Bolton. Absolutely no way in hell. 10 and 16 maybe. I'd still be dirty, but I could learn to live with it. If we can't get it done with that, then leave him at the Tiges.
Liam Baker is an end of f1st round , maybe early 2nd round player. I would trade pick 3 and 14 to GC for pick 6,12 & 20 and give 20 to Richmond for Baker. And then give 6 and hawthkrn future first ( Barrass) with WC future 2nd going back to Hawthorn for Shai Bolton. Would leave WC with 12, 23, Bolton and Baker.
That’s pretty impressive. But I don’t particularly want Bolton at this stage of the eagles rebuild, I’d rather take the draft picks. The other trades sounds great 👍🏼
Bolton is overrated imo. Kicks a lot of points as often rushes his kicks. I just looked up the stats to back up my point. 165 goals, 144 points, unsure of out of bounds on the full but he does many of them too. As an Eagles member I would be disappointed if we gave away 13 for Baker. Get Graham in on a free and bring in high quality youth.
Quarters is nuts, baker is worth wc 2nd rd at most and that's being generous. We are rebuilding the eagles here not Richmond. If tigers don't like it take him to the psd. Wc need these 1st rd picks their list is horrendous
Baker for Pick 13, no way. I would say to Richmond, Pick 23 or you can have him in PSD for a year and then we get him in Free Agency and you get nothing for him.
Kosi is a bit lazier than Shai, but if he works hard may be a better player. If Kozi can lose the weight he could go straight into the middle. I reckon both would be good.
You can have pick 13 for Tom Barrass with a future 2nd, Deals off for two firsts and your rebuild gets set back, you keep an unhappy Tom, lose Baker and Pick 13 and with a new coach veterans very rarely stay the ship, you wont get a good offer for Tom 18 - 24 months from now when his contract talks start again. Its no given you're keeping a Harley Reid either so a Baker or player at thr pick to partner with Reid would be most clubs play as its the safe one, Keeping tom is a bigger risk to eagles specifically in this type of rebuild as opposed to moving him. That is why Hawthorn have a lot more leverage in this deal than the West will realise.
Ghee the whole league must see West Coast as absolute suckers. Barrass arguably is in the top 5, was stiff to not make the AA team. Liam baker isn't even the best 20 in the league.
Baker is a tough hard skilled player…he was voted the most courageous player by all his afl peers…he is a known quantity..the draft is a lottery ..take baker
Warner fir 9 10 and future first (10) is what warner deal will take.i would do that as warner is way better than Bolton as he can playv4 quarters of good midfield Bolton plays about a half if your lucky I midfield
Unfortunately incorrect , men world wide in the sporting field do not reach peak until 26-27yrs and there's a 5 yr window . These guys are only starting to enter it .
@@bigdannyp76 you mean Bolton & Baker who finished equal 5th in the fairest and best only 5 votes away and after missing games and Baker missed 6 .What stats are you talking about. Oh and Bolton kicked his 2nd biggest bag this year . Hmm what were those stats again . PS and Liam Baker had his 2nd best disposal ave this year in a bottom team. What were those stats again .
No way! I wouldn’t budge with anyone Richmond need this deal other wise they will be out for 10 + years stay in the draft…. No interest in Richmond players in the back in of there career,
liam baker out of contract not worth 13 not even close!!!!! 23 at best!!!!! barrass two first rounders or no deal!!!! no way baker!!!! no way baker!!!! no way baker!!!! barras 100% right!!!!!!!!!!! no way baker
100% nailed it Barra. Pick 13. Now way in hell. How quarters can justify losing pick 13, is beyond me. The kind of thinking that has sent the club into this spiral
Pick 13 for Baker is an insane suggestion. Just defies any understanding of where West Coast's list is at right now.
Hey Quarters, since you're happy paying overs on everything I've got a bunch of stuff I want to sell you. I'll give you a great price....
Agree with Barra! Baker is no star. Not worth pick 13. If the eagles trade 13 for Baker, it’s a sign the new Macqualter era off to a poor start.
No way Eagles use pick 13 for Baker. He's uncontracted so send him to the pre-season draft and use 13 on a future star.
Where his old club has the first pick? 😂
@john-murraynewman-scotch6567 Why would they draft him back if he's not going to sign a contract with them? Waste of a draft pick
@@chriskelly9476 he has to lol. PSD is still a draft.
@john-murraynewman-scotch6567 lol players cant be forced to sign contracts. They might be banned (or whatever the penalty is) but they can absolutely refuse to sign a contract. Its happened before.
Spot on Barra with the Liam Baker scenario. Doubt anybody from WC will get to hear it but spot on!!
Barra ......brayshaw is on the free agent list......he goes u get Warner next year
Perryman for pick 16, Battle for pick 8. Baker for 13 is fine and Richmond would love it. Bolton is better than all of them so early pick and a future 1st rounder. Tigers in a great position. West ozzies are so full of themselves. I lived there for 20 years and so happy to get out.
Barra is spot on. No way Baker is worth pick 13. Second round at best.
OUT OF CONTRACT! We have the leverage. You understand?
Barras for Baker is pure insanity.
Tom Barrass key back, contracted for 3 years 28 turning 29 for start of next season. Liam Baker, uncontracted 26 turning 27 start of next season. Baker for pick 23, Barrass to Hawks for pick 13 and future first.
Fuck no 😂 You're not getting future first and 13 from Hawthorn, you can keep tom at 29 with back issues in a rebuild and we can keep 13, you lose Baker and we keep a strong club in west coast weak for an extended amount of years at the bottom. You'd also potentially disengage Tom Barrass from your goal as a club as you failed to keep your word on your promise to him contractually with a hand shake over pay increase.
We'll hold onto Barrass then and use pick 23 for Baker. TB is being offered $1m a season for 4 years - he's also contracted for 3 more years. WCE should demand a kings ransom.
As for disengagement, I don't buy into that - TB has consistently expressed a desire to stay at the club for the right price. Happy to renegotiate his contract and keep him rather than let him go for peanuts. Pick 13 is being pushed back with every father son & compo pick.
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Picks 9 & 10 for Bolton is the same as Serong and Young... Get real
Barra is spot on - no way Freo should pay 9&10 (now 10 and 11 with the garbage compo picks) and no way West Coast should pay 13. Both clubs would be getting fisted by richmond in that scenario.
I'd hate quarters to be my list manager . Club would be screwed.
Both those deals arent good for either team . Great if your a tigers supporter
Seems the expectation of late is that interstate teams do ridiculous deals at trade time. Forget it. Why not apply the same rigour expected of VFL teams??
It shows none of the commentary below has come from Richmond supporters. Liam Baker is easily Richmond's best player, and has been for some time. I'm devastated he's leaving. Pick 13 for a tried and tested gun is an absolute bargain compared to a 'maybe' in the draft. You'll see how good he is if you're lucky enough to get him.
Pick 13 for Baker and 9 & 10 for Bolton is absolute rubbish.
Freo are not trading 9 and 10 for Bolton. Absolutely no way in hell. 10 and 16 maybe. I'd still be dirty, but I could learn to live with it. If we can't get it done with that, then leave him at the Tiges.
Bolton isn't the answer to Freo going to a premiership. He has had his day and picks 9/10 No way in hell.
Liam Baker is an end of f1st round , maybe early 2nd round player. I would trade pick 3 and 14 to GC for pick 6,12 & 20 and give 20 to Richmond for Baker. And then give 6 and hawthkrn future first ( Barrass) with WC future 2nd going back to Hawthorn for Shai Bolton. Would leave WC with 12, 23, Bolton and Baker.
That’s pretty impressive. But I don’t particularly want Bolton at this stage of the eagles rebuild, I’d rather take the draft picks. The other trades sounds great 👍🏼
Bolton is overrated imo. Kicks a lot of points as often rushes his kicks. I just looked up the stats to back up my point. 165 goals, 144 points, unsure of out of bounds on the full but he does many of them too. As an Eagles member I would be disappointed if we gave away 13 for Baker. Get Graham in on a free and bring in high quality youth.
Quarters is nuts, baker is worth wc 2nd rd at most and that's being generous. We are rebuilding the eagles here not Richmond. If tigers don't like it take him to the psd. Wc need these 1st rd picks their list is horrendous
Baker for Pick 13, no way. I would say to Richmond, Pick 23 or you can have him in PSD for a year and then we get him in Free Agency and you get nothing for him.
Kosi is a bit lazier than Shai, but if he works hard may be a better player. If Kozi can lose the weight he could go straight into the middle. I reckon both would be good.
You can have pick 13 for Tom Barrass with a future 2nd, Deals off for two firsts and your rebuild gets set back, you keep an unhappy Tom, lose Baker and Pick 13 and with a new coach veterans very rarely stay the ship, you wont get a good offer for Tom 18 - 24 months from now when his contract talks start again. Its no given you're keeping a Harley Reid either so a Baker or player at thr pick to partner with Reid would be most clubs play as its the safe one, Keeping tom is a bigger risk to eagles specifically in this type of rebuild as opposed to moving him. That is why Hawthorn have a lot more leverage in this deal than the West will realise.
Sydney want Barrass, Warner wants home. Sounds like a better deal to me. Sounds fairer too.
Barra is spot on. Baker is a good player but definitely not a 1st rounder. Eagles... go to the draft.
Ghee the whole league must see West Coast as absolute suckers.
Barrass arguably is in the top 5, was stiff to not make the AA team. Liam baker isn't even the best 20 in the league.
Baker is a tough hard skilled player…he was voted the most courageous player by all his afl peers…he is a known quantity..the draft is a lottery ..take baker
Barra is such a tool, the other guy Quarters actually talking sense & knows Bolton is a gun.
Warner fir 9 10 and future first (10) is what warner deal will take.i would do that as warner is way better than Bolton as he can playv4 quarters of good midfield Bolton plays about a half if your lucky I midfield
Bakers value is 20-25. Quarters is out of his mind
Get the kids in simple Baker average Graham below average Quarters is off the mark here
No way pick 13 for baker. Pick the kids.
All those Richmond players, Graham, Baker, Bolton’s best are behind them.
Unfortunately incorrect , men world wide in the sporting field do not reach peak until 26-27yrs and there's a 5 yr window . These guys are only starting to enter it .
@@TheVanguard333 check their stats, all in the down hill direction .
@@bigdannyp76 you mean Bolton & Baker who finished equal 5th in the fairest and best only 5 votes away and after missing games and Baker missed 6 .What stats are you talking about. Oh and Bolton kicked his 2nd biggest bag this year . Hmm what were those stats again . PS and Liam Baker had his 2nd best disposal ave this year in a bottom team. What were those stats again .
yeh disagree
graham yes sorry
Not sure who the old guy is but glad he isn't making any genuine decisions for the eagles.
And that is why Mr Quatermaine is a mouth piece and not employed by the football industry
Baker is a better player than barass
Bolton is overrated, he won’t get Fremantle up.
Baker is a gun and one of the toughest players in the comp..pick 13 is about right
No way!
I wouldn’t budge with anyone Richmond need this deal other wise they will be out for 10 + years stay in the draft…. No interest in Richmond players in the back in of there career,
liam baker out of contract not worth 13 not even close!!!!! 23 at best!!!!! barrass two first rounders or no deal!!!! no way baker!!!! no way baker!!!! no way baker!!!! barras 100% right!!!!!!!!!!! no way baker
😂 Barrass has 3 or 4 injury riddled years left in him