@@copperymaster idk if u day drive or night drive but it adds an extra layer of intensity watching these in the middle of no where on some back road in the middle of the night
Bunny was a childhood hero of mine. The original "Hacking the Xbox" and TechTV interviews is what got me into computers, security, and software development.
Great episode. Takes me back to my Xbox modding days in high school. For those interested, this scene is still going. 20 years later people are still developing and creating things for the original Xbox.
@@oodles86 I believe there are people still working on porting games, old consoles, to xbox. But none creating games from scratch that I am aware of. But there are people still updating dashboards and writing/editing software. Also still some hardware modding happening.
Awesome, I have a stack of twenty I bought off ebay. About half need the capacitors replaced. XBMC ruled my TV from 2007-Kodi. Thanks for the heads up, I will check it out, still solid.
I agree. The idea of purchasing a product and not owning it or doing as you please with it makes no sense. If they want to rent it to us then just rent them. I purchased the hardware so I am going to do what I'd like.
The issue arises when you cause damage to Intellectual Property sales and development. It’s heavy handed, but if you don’t distribute your work, you are unlikely to run into trouble. If these guys weren’t basically just kids, they could’ve done much more, in a much more legally rigorous way.
No one said that, it’s not illegal to mod as long as you don’t break any other laws. Might void your warranty and they might kick you from live. Which is reasonable considering how many laws these people were actually breaking fucking constantly. All the games and data stolen etc. Idk there are so many people walking around that entitled that think because you technically purchased the hardware for device you should be able to do whatever you choose with the software that you don’t own and never did
I had a dev kit 360 I got from my friend Lewis, a network engineer. He was friends with r0wdy, and it probably came from him. It was one of the early ones with the bad solder balls in the video chip. I had to point a house fan at the side of it to keep it from artifacting (green blobs, going to streaks if it got too hot). After the dev kit, Lewis gave me a 250Gb Elite with c4eva firmware on the DVD drive. My first hacked console was a PS1, but my favorite will always be the original X-Box that Lewis chipped with a Team Xecuter v2 chip for me. It had two 250 Gb HDDs, the Team Avalaunch dashboard, XBMC, all the emulators, and MAME with over 1000 ROMS. It started out with the stock black case, but I did some stucco patches for him and traded up for the holy grail, the clear acrylic custom Halo case with the Master Chief laser engraved on the top. These were customs that someone designed and had a limited run made up. The kits were 6 pieces of flat clear acrylic fastened together with 1/2" square clear acrylic cubes and polished brass machine screws with large flat heads. The mobo was mounted on brass standoffs. I had Antec LED case fans in mine. I only saw 3 of these cases. One was mine. One belonged to Lewis. The third one was on display at Best Buy in San Carlos (it wasn't for sale, it was a fully functioning console). I lost mine to a storage lien sale in 2017. Whoever bought it probably thought it was just a regular X-Box with a fancy case. But if you knew the secret and long pressed the power button, you booted Avalaunch instead of M$FT's fugly dashboard. If anyone comes across this console, I'd like to get it back. Lewis passed away, and it has sentimental value to me. If you have it, my name that I used as player one for my game saves was, and still is v0n_7hi22l3. Much heartfelt thanks to Bunnie, Team Xecuter, Team Avalaunch and r0wdy personally, c4eva, Team Jungle, and ABGX360, #xbins, XBMC, t3ch, the Scene, and all the people that uploaded to USENET and TPB. It was a helluva ride, and I learned so much from it. Free GaryOPA!
@Nick C Only that one. Emulators seem to be where it's at now. They can't sue you, charge you, or drag you off to jail for writing an open source software emulator of their hardware. At least not yet....Nintendo will probably be the first, followed closely by Sony. I had a Dell laptop that was absolutely ruined by that Sony rootkit. To this day, I do not buy anything made by Sony. Good luck policing all the ROMS off TPB, KAT, 1337x, USENET, etc you Whack-A-Mole tards. The hydra, by its nature, will always come out on top. Sharing is caring.
Using your email password for anything else is one of the biggest no no's. People who steal passwords from a name commonly go attempt to use that password on their email. A lot of people get their emails hacked this way.
@@ClickClack_Bam DO the keyborad rub for your password. Won't be easy to crack. A way to remember is to start your password with "Password_" and add things after like symbols and mixed characters.
@@glock-kay yeah im dumb. i set my username as my password on my first account on the _____ _______ hosting service, i was really young tho.. and the thing is i still use variations of that same password..
It's inevitable that the more people you let into the trusted circle, someone is going to spill the beans. What's really amazing to me is that 1 single password opened the door to all of this.
Dillon is nothing but a pathetic coward making his mother do 18 months in prison because he didn't have the integrity to stand trial for what he did. Absolutely pathetic.
The way most script kiddies are. The people on these series are the worst. Momma probably should have swallowed a few of these guys. I hope he starts getting some interesting people on. Like Markus Hutchins.
When he says 'dev kits got bricked', that is not entirely accurate. It was JTAGs getting banned. I know because I was involved in the scene back in the day. I was selling these guys KV files to unban their consoles. These were 'Key Vault' files that I extracted form dead RROD consoles. I was doing repairs and chips and got dead 360's by the dozen for $10-15. I could get most RROD 360's to JTAG boot Xell long enough to get the CPU key and extract the NAND files. Near the end of it I was selling KVs for over $150 before my supply tapped out.
Incredible two episodes mate. I couldn’t believe that dude walked into Microsoft twice and stole 3 in-development Xbox Ones. This episode highlights how lax security was - whether it was physical or digital. Totally crazy. These days its all pretty locked down.
"These days its all pretty locked down." Man that's like saying "back in the day science was easier".....nah i'm sure it was simpler but you don't know what you don't know!!
@@LoopBooost lol no, the exact opposite dude - it's as hard as its always been...a cat and mouse game. Exploits are found, vendors resolve them, new tech is implemented, exploits are found etc. Does that clear it up at all?
@@CorinHarper The thing im wondering right now is, its alot harder to hack these big tech companies now, but for example attacking your local store website/system is easier now because of all the tools and info you can find.
@@LoopBooost that's hard to say - websites have become standardized to the point that only enthusiasts would really set their own up - otherwise its a hosted reskin job rented from a big tech company. The real question is what would the payoff even be? It's not like you're gonna be cracking payment gateways and multifactor authentication in online banking only makes things harder - data will be the easier thing to penetrate but let's be real here, nobody is vying to buy your local grocery stores analytics....let alone for the risk of some hefty fines and jailtime.
Fun Fact: Reading Bunny's book, specifically his FPGA hack inspired the idea for the RGH hack. Also don't believe everything you read on Wikipedia, that's not the origin of the term 'Hacker' Also I remember all these guys, 360 days were truly the golden days.. So many more untold stories from that time, that will probably stay untold unfortunately
@@kenosabi debatable, there are worse sources. Locked wikipedia articles end up being pretty ok. And the sources are solid, news websites on the other hand ...
Def remember Avalaunch and Slayers Evox Installer. I had a fully modded Halo Translucent Green Xbox (among others) with the modded OEM DVD-Rom you could find at micro center (not modded yet) that was actually good at reading and ripping the games. A huge hard drive tons of emulators. Everything was so easy. Either just stick the game in and rip or FTP it. I learned a lot back then and had my all my music and movies on my network so I could use XBMC now Kodi on the Xbox to play stuff off my computer. Great scene!
Man this bring me back to freshman year in high school. I JTaged my Xbox 360 and was able to play black Ops a few months before release and modded the hell out of COD and Halo online. It was a great time back then until my Xbox was console banned 😢 Now it’s just sitting in a closet collecting dust
The Xbox is what sparked a technology fire inside me. The OG Xbox scene blew my mind. The plot twist is Microsoft actually benefited from all the development in this scene. I have 12 Xbox because whenever I go thrift and I see one I have to buy it just to rescue it
I remember when CliffyB used to regularly post on the something awful forums back in the day - he was a pretty good dude from what I remember. SA was amazing back in the day in general.
Senad is stalking Vince Vintage the UA-camr right now, trying to ruin his life for making a video like this.... respect to you jack for this interview but this turn of events seems worthy of an update video on senad and his illegal exploits. Hes even trying to rope the hacker community into the stalking
I was one of those kids in IRC loosing his shit - spent hours and nights on end trying to get it to work. Now work for a global infosec vendor. Thanks Bunny.
I appreciate the love these dudes had for Dreamcast. Hands down one of my favorite systems. I remember going to DEFCON back in 2002 and got to meet some dudes that put Windows Millenium on one.
this takes me back to the PSP hacking nod scene, I remember my excitement after many hour's of tinkering and bouncing around different forum's trying to figure it out without bricking my PSP 🤣
I remember getting into COD lobbies where it was just fucking chaos. Your bullets were replaced with 40mm, there were like 10 c130s overhead, fully auto javelins. People were so triggered by it, but I thought it was absolutely hilarious.. Are these lobbies the same ones? There for a few weekends it seemed like 1 or 2 of 5 games I’d join would be that way, my friends would be like “this is lame, let’s leave” and I’d stay and try to get kills with the javelin 😂 good times
This evening for no reason I decided to type "xbox underground" into youtube. David went to my highschool and elementary so im very familar with the story. I remember his face in the newspaper. The world is a simulation, what are the chances this video drops the day I remember and inquire about it. Crazy.
New visitor to your channel, but I've just listened to three of your stories and really enjoyed them. New subscriber here! I do listen at 1.25 speed BTW 😂
Watched an interview nfrom you recently and heard you mention this was one of your favorites. I didn't know the UA-cam videos were backlogged!! 🙌🏾🙌🏾 I have a TON of new episodes to check out!!
I'm old and no computer skills past everyday user. I'm about 15 minutes away from the end of the video. And I'm enraptured by not just the video, but your channel. I've enjoyed listening 🎧 to all of the five or so I've watched so far. Don't change a thing, unless you want to 😂🖖🏻☮️
This has to be one of the most interesting stuff I have been listening to in a long time. For my own reference: 1:06:40 "Hacking" into US military for the Apache military simulator.
So because one guy leaked an unreleased game and tried to steal data in front of staff at PAX, everyone else got pulled down alongside them? There's always that one idiot...
They all became idiots in their own way. SAE, Dylan Wheeler, and some others that were in this group had so many opportunities to legally get out of trouble and all ignored it
My buddy put a CD in my Xbox and installed every single Gameboy and Gameboy Color game known to man. I still own the console and it still works. It also still has the plastic film on the power/eject buttons because I'm that guy.
My first major hacking was using a pdf guide from isohunt to flash the CD ROM and play copied games, you brought that back to me when somebody said having MW3 early :D
I have bunnie's book, very good read! ;-) loved the scene, Modded the shit out of my first xbox 😀Avalaunch was the best Dashboard, loved the competion for the Logo design. Also because I was more a graphix designer. But the xbox got me in to hardware hacking. learned so much back then.
omg this takes me back! I remember JTAG hacks from cod mw2. Back then all my friends wanted to join hacked lobbies because they’d instantly max out your account so you’d unlock everything. The actual in-game cheats like aimbot and stuff were just a bonus and went away once your xbox turned off. One dayI found a service selling spots in one of these lobbies (I think they were called 10th prestige lobbies) and all my friends pooled together money so we could max out our accounts. The only issue was that my dad was an IT professional so our home internet was actually too secure for me to be able to actually join the lobby (Idk what this means or how it works but my NAT type was strict and I couldn’t join certain servers and would disconnect from others often) So I had to convince a friend to give up their hacks for the day so they could log off, sign into my account, join the lobby, and then sign off. I remember being sooooo freaked out I went through all that work and got the $25 (I was only 14 mind you) and that I wouldn’t even get to join (I had already paid for my spot too!) but in the end I got my 10th prestige. I still never got to experience all the aimbot hacks and stuff. I could experience that now with newer games but it wouldnt be the same. For one, back then havks like that were a lot more rare (now anybody can do it) and having aimbot made you feel like you were a part of some elite private club. Also, the hacks were temporary and fleeting (assuming you didnt have a dev kit. we didnt even know what those _were_ back then. only Jtag’d 360s). A rare treat to fuck around with for a few hours. If you do it now you can do it whenever you play so it’s more just something that makes the game lose any meaning. If you can only be god for 4 hours one day then you still have the other 100+ hrs of gaming youve done and will do as a reference point to make the cheating feel so crazy. Anyway I was into things like that but never hardware, too uncoordinated, but I did find a way to cheat acheivements in any xbox game and I used the method to give myself and my friends recon armor in halo 3 (which was basically a skin originally only available to the devs and a select few community members but was later made available to anybody that completed a series of insanely difficult achievements. So it was still very rare and sought after). I thought I’d make a ton of money doing it but I really only made $30-$60 because I had no “cred” 😅. And even worse for my budding business, Halo Reach came out soon after and anybody could get recon armor in that game.
Oh also the jtag fix was only a hardware change to newer models of 360s. You could still JTAG old models of 360s or use the JTAG xboxs you still had. at least until 2012. I stopped paying attention to that scene after that (started talking to girls)
Amazing the resources that are poured into protecting IP, and not into protecting people. I watched my friends go to jail for hacking as a teen. From the moment you started I knew some of this would boil down to SQL injections and PHPbb. You can tell so much about these orgs from the outside, their shoddy security, etc.
imagine the cool kid in school being like "I have pre-ordered this game and I'll get to play it a day before everyone else!" while the loner hacker kid in the corner there has already had access to it a year before release and is probably already finished with the game, but probably doesn't tell anyone because he wants to be alone with his dev kit. That's the real pro right there.
This was the first video I've seen of yours and it was so good. I believe I've seen other videos on the topic but yours was so in depth and the personal accounts were great. I can't wait for the part 2! Edit: I actually saw the adult film advertisement malware right before this one but all the other stuff I said still stands lol
Back in the early days of the original Xbox when I was in college, my roommate who was really into over clocking PCs and building PCs somehow hacked his Xbox to run windows, gave it a custom dashboard and modified OS that icould play bootleg games and then he replaced the HDD with a much larger one that he filled with bootleg games. It didn’t work online but until he sold it a few weeks later on eBay, we played every Xbox game available for free 😆 it was the greatest thing ever and I still wish I’d bought it from him myself or paid him to mod another one for me.
Isn't this the biggest hacking of all times? i want the next episode now, and a movie or a serie based on it. I'm feeling like after watching Wargames for the first time, back in time.
Jack - you should do research into "Black Sunday" in 2001, and all the cat-and-mouse involved in the cracked DirecTV receiver world of the late '90s. Especially tying the work of that time with the DSS work still being done today... #GameOver #Dave
Wow. This is amazing to listen to, as a child with an Xbox 360 I have extremely fond memories of flashing the drive, and subsequently getting ahold of a leaked Halo Reach copy *months* before release. I celebrated with a party, inviting some of my middle school friends who were pretty impressed. And hosting modded CoD5 lobbies. Anything else required a JTAG which I couldn't afford or otherwise acquire. Yeah, that was in 6th or 7th grade. Super eye opening to hear this side of the story! Thanks again Jack!
Wow, what an amazing part one. Man this brings back memories from ps4 24/7 lobbies I was in, was would glitch GTA online. Everyday looking for exploits, getting hints from 7sins. I miss that thrill, of being those guys on a server doing shit, and regular players having no idea of what we were doing, right in front of them.
Yeah, there's a big difference between actual dev kit units and JTAG consoles. I don't believe for a second they had 10 dev kits each. 10 JTAGed consoles, sure. JTAGs were a big thing by 2009, and you can run modded lobbies on JTAGs. These guys would not confuse these two names, which makes me question their credibility.
I just knew Justin would be on there :') Back in the day he kept trying to get my IP to DDOS my home connection because he didn't enjoy getting silenced on IRC for being unhinged and rude
Damn you had my attention so vividly that the cliffhanger felt like a personal attack. I'm like "ay bro ay bro c'mon man don't fucking do me like that I thought you were my homie... Wtf?" Lmfao!
I remember when this was going on I was a Junior and Senior in Highschool when the COD MW2 "Mod Lobbys" were going on you couldn't even believe some of the things that these guys were giving to random people all over the US. Points were being given AND scammed you could join one JUST ONE of the lobbies and youre console was considered "Infected" at that point until you turned off the xbox. You would be joining into LIVE MW2 Lobbies with Aim bot wall hacks and so so so much more. I Only knew them as "J-Tag" lobbies and people would PAY YOU thousands upon THOUSANDS of Live points worth 99.99 Just to join your private match of rust for 1 minute in order to receive these infected lobbies and take it online and spread. I cant even tell you how much money I made sitting around playing xbox with my friends during an entire summer. Very fond memories and so many stories. Thanks for this episode Jack brought back such great memories.
This story is incredible and mainly because of the effort these people went through to gain access to run cfw. Then theres the ps3 that lets you do whatever you want to it 🤣
14:30 I have had both an original xbox dev console and a ps4 dev console in my possession. I have never been part of or associated with game development. I sold the PS4 dev kit to someone on a farm in scotland while it was the current gen console, after contacting Sony and trying to find out what the process was to return it. Basically they didn't have one, and even their team that was supposedly in charge of the dev consoles just sent me a canned off topic response when I contacted them about it. I figured if they officially would not acknowledge ownership of the console, despite my best efforts, it was mine. Part of me thinks I undersold it. I think I got $1200 for it, but I believe it was the most powerful version of the dev console that existed. The thing was like 20lbs and massive.
I love you bro I'm a trucker and this shit is super entertaining to listen to in the middle of the night in no where
fucking same guy has hands down the best audio content when I'm driving
Thank you for your service @Blake Rowley!!!
@@billievillarreal9547 thanks but I'm not a veteran lol I'm just a money hungry fuck up that drives a truck😂😂
@@copperymaster idk if u day drive or night drive but it adds an extra layer of intensity watching these in the middle of no where on some back road in the middle of the night
im a freight broker and i watch this while posting loads on DAT.
Bunny was a childhood hero of mine. The original "Hacking the Xbox" and TechTV interviews is what got me into computers, security, and software development.
Sadly due to life it all stopped for me after xbox360
@@robertwells3797 what stopped ?
Who is bunny?
@@MonkeyModeR6 Andrew "bunnie" Huang. He wrote "Hacking the Xbox". en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Huang_(hacker)
@@MonkeyModeR6 He is the guy who talks at the beginning, he created the path for xbox underground
When a guy named Skitzo sounds like the sane one you know you’re in way to deep.
Fr. Then again I knew someone who went by psycho... odd coincidence xD
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Hey we're just getting started!
@@OriginalAustinOblivionyo wonder if it's the same psycho I know
This brings back memories of the modding scenes back then. What a great time it was to be a kid into hardware and software modding.
Great episode. Takes me back to my Xbox modding days in high school. For those interested, this scene is still going. 20 years later people are still developing and creating things for the original Xbox.
Games?
@@oodles86 I believe there are people still working on porting games, old consoles, to xbox. But none creating games from scratch that I am aware of. But there are people still updating dashboards and writing/editing software. Also still some hardware modding happening.
@@russ225 cool, thanks for clarifyin 👍
Awesome, I have a stack of twenty I bought off ebay. About half need the capacitors replaced. XBMC ruled my TV from 2007-Kodi. Thanks for the heads up, I will check it out, still solid.
Where can I find more info on the scene
Not being allowed to mod your own box is just absolutely insane.
I agree. The idea of purchasing a product and not owning it or doing as you please with it makes no sense. If they want to rent it to us then just rent them. I purchased the hardware so I am going to do what I'd like.
He didn’t say you couldn’t mod it just said can’t pass around copyright protection workaround software
You can always mod your hardware, you signed a license to use software tho bro
The issue arises when you cause damage to Intellectual Property sales and development. It’s heavy handed, but if you don’t distribute your work, you are unlikely to run into trouble. If these guys weren’t basically just kids, they could’ve done much more, in a much more legally rigorous way.
No one said that, it’s not illegal to mod as long as you don’t break any other laws. Might void your warranty and they might kick you from live. Which is reasonable considering how many laws these people were actually breaking fucking constantly. All the games and data stolen etc. Idk there are so many people walking around that entitled that think because you technically purchased the hardware for device you should be able to do whatever you choose with the software that you don’t own and never did
I had a dev kit 360 I got from my friend Lewis, a network engineer. He was friends with r0wdy, and it probably came from him. It was one of the early ones with the bad solder balls in the video chip. I had to point a house fan at the side of it to keep it from artifacting (green blobs, going to streaks if it got too hot). After the dev kit, Lewis gave me a 250Gb Elite with c4eva firmware on the DVD drive. My first hacked console was a PS1, but my favorite will always be the original X-Box that Lewis chipped with a Team Xecuter v2 chip for me. It had two 250 Gb HDDs, the Team Avalaunch dashboard, XBMC, all the emulators, and MAME with over 1000 ROMS. It started out with the stock black case, but I did some stucco patches for him and traded up for the holy grail, the clear acrylic custom Halo case with the Master Chief laser engraved on the top. These were customs that someone designed and had a limited run made up. The kits were 6 pieces of flat clear acrylic fastened together with 1/2" square clear acrylic cubes and polished brass machine screws with large flat heads. The mobo was mounted on brass standoffs. I had Antec LED case fans in mine. I only saw 3 of these cases. One was mine. One belonged to Lewis. The third one was on display at Best Buy in San Carlos (it wasn't for sale, it was a fully functioning console). I lost mine to a storage lien sale in 2017. Whoever bought it probably thought it was just a regular X-Box with a fancy case. But if you knew the secret and long pressed the power button, you booted Avalaunch instead of M$FT's fugly dashboard. If anyone comes across this console, I'd like to get it back. Lewis passed away, and it has sentimental value to me. If you have it, my name that I used as player one for my game saves was, and still is v0n_7hi22l3.
Much heartfelt thanks to Bunnie, Team Xecuter, Team Avalaunch and r0wdy personally, c4eva, Team Jungle, and ABGX360, #xbins, XBMC, t3ch, the Scene, and all the people that uploaded to USENET and TPB. It was a helluva ride, and I learned so much from it.
Free GaryOPA!
god the executioner chip was so fun, i remember getting mine and seeing all the roms and emulators the first time i was floored
Man you probably have so many stories. Are you still involved at all in the modding scene?
@Nick C Only that one. Emulators seem to be where it's at now. They can't sue you, charge you, or drag you off to jail for writing an open source software emulator of their hardware. At least not yet....Nintendo will probably be the first, followed closely by Sony. I had a Dell laptop that was absolutely ruined by that Sony rootkit. To this day, I do not buy anything made by Sony. Good luck policing all the ROMS off TPB, KAT, 1337x, USENET, etc you Whack-A-Mole tards. The hydra, by its nature, will always come out on top. Sharing is caring.
Valuable lesson: Don't reuse your passwords especially if you're a high value target.
Even if you're a regular person its a dumb thing to do lol.
Using your email password for anything else is one of the biggest no no's.
People who steal passwords from a name commonly go attempt to use that password on their email. A lot of people get their emails hacked this way.
@@ClickClack_Bam DO the keyborad rub for your password. Won't be easy to crack. A way to remember is to start your password with "Password_" and add things after like symbols and mixed characters.
@@glock-kay yeah im dumb. i set my username as my password on my first account on the _____ _______ hosting service, i was really young tho.. and the thing is i still use variations of that same password..
Use an encrypted database (and not one of those stupid cloud ones) and generate long random strings.
What a thrill! This story should be turned into a Hollywood Movie. Can't wait for Part 2
It’s on Spotify this came out late 2019 lol he’s just putting now on yt
I agree, I hope someone turns this whole story into a movie
It's inevitable that the more people you let into the trusted circle, someone is going to spill the beans.
What's really amazing to me is that 1 single password opened the door to all of this.
Dillon is nothing but a pathetic coward making his mother do 18 months in prison because he didn't have the integrity to stand trial for what he did. Absolutely pathetic.
His mother chose to help him flee, she knew the consequences of it
The way most script kiddies are. The people on these series are the worst. Momma probably should have swallowed a few of these guys. I hope he starts getting some interesting people on. Like Markus Hutchins.
No, he chose to allow her to allow him to flee. Coward is pretty applicable.
@@RizztrainingOrder yep
@@RizztrainingOrder no, she chose to allow him to allow her to allow him to flee
This is so exciting. I love this whole scene, all of these super skilled modders and reverse-engineers. Awesome.
When he says 'dev kits got bricked', that is not entirely accurate. It was JTAGs getting banned. I know because I was involved in the scene back in the day. I was selling these guys KV files to unban their consoles. These were 'Key Vault' files that I extracted form dead RROD consoles. I was doing repairs and chips and got dead 360's by the dozen for $10-15. I could get most RROD 360's to JTAG boot Xell long enough to get the CPU key and extract the NAND files. Near the end of it I was selling KVs for over $150 before my supply tapped out.
Damn, did you know what they were doing with it or did you just mind your own business and get the bag?
that is so fucking cool thanks for sharing
WRONG.
the paper weight dev kit is holding open my door right now, i would know >.>
Incredible two episodes mate. I couldn’t believe that dude walked into Microsoft twice and stole 3 in-development Xbox Ones. This episode highlights how lax security was - whether it was physical or digital. Totally crazy. These days its all pretty locked down.
"These days its all pretty locked down."
Man that's like saying "back in the day science was easier".....nah i'm sure it was simpler but you don't know what you don't know!!
@@CorinHarper Do you seriously think for example the new xbox is easier to hack?
@@LoopBooost lol no, the exact opposite dude - it's as hard as its always been...a cat and mouse game.
Exploits are found, vendors resolve them, new tech is implemented, exploits are found etc.
Does that clear it up at all?
@@CorinHarper The thing im wondering right now is, its alot harder to hack these big tech companies now, but for example attacking your local store website/system is easier now because of all the tools and info you can find.
@@LoopBooost that's hard to say - websites have become standardized to the point that only enthusiasts would really set their own up - otherwise its a hosted reskin job rented from a big tech company.
The real question is what would the payoff even be? It's not like you're gonna be cracking payment gateways and multifactor authentication in online banking only makes things harder - data will be the easier thing to penetrate but let's be real here, nobody is vying to buy your local grocery stores analytics....let alone for the risk of some hefty fines and jailtime.
my buddy and i listened to this on our trip out of state and back... fantastic narration
Fun Fact: Reading Bunny's book, specifically his FPGA hack inspired the idea for the RGH hack. Also don't believe everything you read on Wikipedia, that's not the origin of the term 'Hacker' Also I remember all these guys, 360 days were truly the golden days.. So many more untold stories from that time, that will probably stay untold unfortunately
Or "fortunately" for those who were participating in the actions that lead to the stories
Wikipedia is trash and anyone quoting it in a debate should be pointed to and laughed at.
@@kenosabi debatable, there are worse sources. Locked wikipedia articles end up being pretty ok. And the sources are solid, news websites on the other hand ...
Brilliant podcast. Worked closely with Epic over the years. So super interesting.
Just think of the raises & bonuses you could've gotten if you knew these dudes at the right time😂
Def remember Avalaunch and Slayers Evox Installer. I had a fully modded Halo Translucent Green Xbox (among others) with the modded OEM DVD-Rom you could find at micro center (not modded yet) that was actually good at reading and ripping the games. A huge hard drive tons of emulators. Everything was so easy. Either just stick the game in and rip or FTP it. I learned a lot back then and had my all my music and movies on my network so I could use XBMC now Kodi on the Xbox to play stuff off my computer.
Great scene!
Man this bring me back to freshman year in high school. I JTaged my Xbox 360 and was able to play black Ops a few months before release and modded the hell out of COD and Halo online. It was a great time back then until my Xbox was console banned 😢
Now it’s just sitting in a closet collecting dust
Wat remove
u do know u can change the kv or even use a stealth server that has nokv mode
So many things wrong with this fake story lmaoo
Guy doesn't even know what a kv is.
@@OrangeYTT ikr
@@OrangeYTT okay bud. I still got the Xbox in my closet if you wanna see. I was a broke high schooler at the time and couldn’t afford a KV
It is 1/3/2023 and I still have this book and 2 old Xbox collecting dust. One hacked with help from this book.....Good times!
This was such an amazing time in my life. Thank you to the creater for making all this. You've made an old man feel young again.
Where you part of the hacking group?
@@diegobotto6245 no. I used to mod out old gaming consoles in a previous life.
@@Jordan-ln2ef what made you stop?
if you have the skills to do such a difficult thing, why not take the hobby up again?
@@diegobotto6245 I'm too old now. I was in a work accident. Changed my life brother.
@@Jordan-ln2ef
shit, sorry to hear that man, what happened?
The Xbox is what sparked a technology fire inside me. The OG Xbox scene blew my mind. The plot twist is Microsoft actually benefited from all the development in this scene. I have 12 Xbox because whenever I go thrift and I see one I have to buy it just to rescue it
I remember when CliffyB used to regularly post on the something awful forums back in the day - he was a pretty good dude from what I remember. SA was amazing back in the day in general.
Second this, crazy how many people were actually genuine and good on a forum called "Something Awful"
Senad is stalking Vince Vintage the UA-camr right now, trying to ruin his life for making a video like this.... respect to you jack for this interview but this turn of events seems worthy of an update video on senad and his illegal exploits. Hes even trying to rope the hacker community into the stalking
Nobody asked you, that vince is just a f b😂
senad? is that you
@@Oly876
@@Oly876cope
I was one of those kids in IRC loosing his shit - spent hours and nights on end trying to get it to work. Now work for a global infosec vendor. Thanks Bunny.
i was scouting for old stories to list by as no new ones were uploaded recently, guess what came up as i refreshed. A new video. Lets Go!
I appreciate the love these dudes had for Dreamcast. Hands down one of my favorite systems. I remember going to DEFCON back in 2002 and got to meet some dudes that put Windows Millenium on one.
this takes me back to the PSP hacking nod scene, I remember my excitement after many hour's of tinkering and bouncing around different forum's trying to figure it out without bricking my PSP 🤣
Ever head of devils shadow forums?
Me too bro haha
I remember getting into COD lobbies where it was just fucking chaos. Your bullets were replaced with 40mm, there were like 10 c130s overhead, fully auto javelins. People were so triggered by it, but I thought it was absolutely hilarious..
Are these lobbies the same ones? There for a few weekends it seemed like 1 or 2 of 5 games I’d join would be that way, my friends would be like “this is lame, let’s leave” and I’d stay and try to get kills with the javelin 😂 good times
This evening for no reason I decided to type "xbox underground" into youtube.
David went to my highschool and elementary so im very familar with the story. I remember his face in the newspaper.
The world is a simulation, what are the chances this video drops the day I remember and inquire about it. Crazy.
same as i vaguely remember this type of video edit
That's a schizophrenic thought process.
New visitor to your channel, but I've just listened to three of your stories and really enjoyed them. New subscriber here!
I do listen at 1.25 speed BTW 😂
Hello IT Department , Thank you for the keys , Dreamcast Blk Sports Edition 🚓 QC
Watched an interview nfrom you recently and heard you mention this was one of your favorites. I didn't know the UA-cam videos were backlogged!! 🙌🏾🙌🏾 I have a TON of new episodes to check out!!
Jack Rhysider whyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!???? 😢😢😢. You're a good story teller buddy. 👍
This was a banger! Can't wait for Part 2. This should be a movie. LoL
I'm old and no computer skills past everyday user.
I'm about 15 minutes away from the end of the video.
And I'm enraptured by not just the video, but your channel. I've enjoyed listening 🎧 to all of the five or so I've watched so far.
Don't change a thing, unless you want to 😂🖖🏻☮️
This has to be one of the most interesting stuff I have been listening to in a long time.
For my own reference: 1:06:40 "Hacking" into US military for the Apache military simulator.
thats not the craziest thing 'tox has done
🎉🎉🎉 love this show! Always the best stories! Thanks for bringing it always Jack!
This is One of the best episode from jack.
So because one guy leaked an unreleased game and tried to steal data in front of staff at PAX, everyone else got pulled down alongside them?
There's always that one idiot...
They all became idiots in their own way. SAE, Dylan Wheeler, and some others that were in this group had so many opportunities to legally get out of trouble and all ignored it
Not even into gaming but really enjoyed this. Always enjoy your work
My buddy put a CD in my Xbox and installed every single Gameboy and Gameboy Color game known to man. I still own the console and it still works. It also still has the plastic film on the power/eject buttons because I'm that guy.
Thanks for the 2am video! I’m sad I’m going back to day work in a few days. It’s nice to be the only one around in saint louis
Just know these videos make me very happy, you deserve to be huge
My first major hacking was using a pdf guide from isohunt to flash the CD ROM and play copied games, you brought that back to me when somebody said having MW3 early :D
I'm at work right now and this will make my night much better
I'm a trucker and I listen to you while I'm throwing trucker bombs at random passersby
I have bunnie's book, very good read! ;-) loved the scene, Modded the shit out of my first xbox 😀Avalaunch was the best Dashboard, loved the competion for the Logo design. Also because I was more a graphix designer. But the xbox got me in to hardware hacking. learned so much back then.
omg this takes me back! I remember JTAG hacks from cod mw2. Back then all my friends wanted to join hacked lobbies because they’d instantly max out your account so you’d unlock everything. The actual in-game cheats like aimbot and stuff were just a bonus and went away once your xbox turned off. One dayI found a service selling spots in one of these lobbies (I think they were called 10th prestige lobbies) and all my friends pooled together money so we could max out our accounts. The only issue was that my dad was an IT professional so our home internet was actually too secure for me to be able to actually join the lobby (Idk what this means or how it works but my NAT type was strict and I couldn’t join certain servers and would disconnect from others often) So I had to convince a friend to give up their hacks for the day so they could log off, sign into my account, join the lobby, and then sign off. I remember being sooooo freaked out I went through all that work and got the $25 (I was only 14 mind you) and that I wouldn’t even get to join (I had already paid for my spot too!) but in the end I got my 10th prestige. I still never got to experience all the aimbot hacks and stuff. I could experience that now with newer games but it wouldnt be the same. For one, back then havks like that were a lot more rare (now anybody can do it) and having aimbot made you feel like you were a part of some elite private club. Also, the hacks were temporary and fleeting (assuming you didnt have a dev kit. we didnt even know what those _were_ back then. only Jtag’d 360s). A rare treat to fuck around with for a few hours. If you do it now you can do it whenever you play so it’s more just something that makes the game lose any meaning. If you can only be god for 4 hours one day then you still have the other 100+ hrs of gaming youve done and will do as a reference point to make the cheating feel so crazy.
Anyway I was into things like that but never hardware, too uncoordinated, but I did find a way to cheat acheivements in any xbox game and I used the method to give myself and my friends recon armor in halo 3 (which was basically a skin originally only available to the devs and a select few community members but was later made available to anybody that completed a series of insanely difficult achievements. So it was still very rare and sought after). I thought I’d make a ton of money doing it but I really only made $30-$60 because I had no “cred” 😅. And even worse for my budding business, Halo Reach came out soon after and anybody could get recon armor in that game.
Oh also the jtag fix was only a hardware change to newer models of 360s. You could still JTAG old models of 360s or use the JTAG xboxs you still had. at least until 2012. I stopped paying attention to that scene after that (started talking to girls)
Bro, I love this show! I look forward to every new episode. Tbh I wish I didn't binge watch all your videos so quickly.
Just listen to the missing 60 episodes on spotify lol
Amazing the resources that are poured into protecting IP, and not into protecting people. I watched my friends go to jail for hacking as a teen. From the moment you started I knew some of this would boil down to SQL injections and PHPbb. You can tell so much about these orgs from the outside, their shoddy security, etc.
Some of the coolest stuff being discussed here. Xbox 360 Flashing days were the golden days of console gaming.
Ah damnit. Had I known this was a 2 part series I would have waited!! 😭😭😭
Just listen to part 2 on his website, spotify or iTunes... its been out for years. UA-cam is getting a slower rollout...
@@Monokai THOSE DIRTY DIRTY JERKS !!
imagine the cool kid in school being like "I have pre-ordered this game and I'll get to play it a day before everyone else!" while the loner hacker kid in the corner there has already had access to it a year before release and is probably already finished with the game, but probably doesn't tell anyone because he wants to be alone with his dev kit. That's the real pro right there.
pantheon series captured this just right
Dude… awesome way to format your channel. Keep it going and within 18 months you will be over a million
Dylan and Justin are examples of why I dislike hackers/pirates so much lol
Yo. The algorithm sent me here. I'm halfway through the video and so hooked. Bruh just got epic credentials
wow yoy overdid it on this one it was really awesome! keep up the good works!
Only past the intro and this sounds like you talking to you. Love ya work bud I'm hooked
This was the first video I've seen of yours and it was so good. I believe I've seen other videos on the topic but yours was so in depth and the personal accounts were great. I can't wait for the part 2!
Edit: I actually saw the adult film advertisement malware right before this one but all the other stuff I said still stands lol
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Back in the early days of the original Xbox when I was in college, my roommate who was really into over clocking PCs and building PCs somehow hacked his Xbox to run windows, gave it a custom dashboard and modified OS that icould play bootleg games and then he replaced the HDD with a much larger one that he filled with bootleg games. It didn’t work online but until he sold it a few weeks later on eBay, we played every Xbox game available for free 😆 it was the greatest thing ever and I still wish I’d bought it from him myself or paid him to mod another one for me.
I love how they always try and justify themselves but anyone who goes slightly further is just out of line😂
an IT *admin* at *Epic Games* not only uses a simple password, but reuses it across platforms including his work.
this is mind boggling
hahahaha they understold the fuck outta it
Isn't this the biggest hacking of all times? i want the next episode now, and a movie or a serie based on it. I'm feeling like after watching Wargames for the first time, back in time.
Love this thumbnail! And I remember haking the OG duke X-box had one decked out with neon lights n huge HD color change paint 😂
This is funny because I was also modding and fix Xbox’s. Amazing episode! Looking forward to the next one!
This video takes me back to the days of hanging out with those skids in BWA and vM.
SWA and BW Tx
Jack - you should do research into "Black Sunday" in 2001, and all the cat-and-mouse involved in the cracked DirecTV receiver world of the late '90s.
Especially tying the work of that time with the DSS work still being done today...
#GameOver #Dave
Wow. This is amazing to listen to, as a child with an Xbox 360 I have extremely fond memories of flashing the drive, and subsequently getting ahold of a leaked Halo Reach copy *months* before release. I celebrated with a party, inviting some of my middle school friends who were pretty impressed. And hosting modded CoD5 lobbies. Anything else required a JTAG which I couldn't afford or otherwise acquire. Yeah, that was in 6th or 7th grade.
Super eye opening to hear this side of the story! Thanks again Jack!
I've listened to every one of your episodes .. multiple times. keep up the good work. ..
There's often a difference between what is legal and what is right and wrong.
Wow, what an amazing part one. Man this brings back memories from ps4 24/7 lobbies I was in, was would glitch GTA online. Everyday looking for exploits, getting hints from 7sins. I miss that thrill, of being those guys on a server doing shit, and regular players having no idea of what we were doing, right in front of them.
Thank you for putting this together.
Yeah, there's a big difference between actual dev kit units and JTAG consoles. I don't believe for a second they had 10 dev kits each. 10 JTAGed consoles, sure. JTAGs were a big thing by 2009, and you can run modded lobbies on JTAGs. These guys would not confuse these two names, which makes me question their credibility.
They were rare for you. These were the guys you were buying them from.
They had dev kits, they even had dev kits for the Xbox one and released their own version on the One before Microsoft
THANK YOU
Randomly came across this video, not a hacker or into computers at all, but found this story very fascinating.
just stumbled across your channel, the quality of your content is insane. binging episodes atm
I remember frying my ps2 trying to solder in a mod chip. Good times. Lol
Mannnnnn I love your channel!!! This is so nostalgic!!! Love hearing about this stuff.
Really gave the growing Internet a reason why you don't reuse passwords 😂
I found an awesome first episode to discover your channel by in this upload. Thanks, and I've subbed of course.
1st video ive came across of yours, i wasnt planning on listening to it all but its on to the 2nd episode now👌
This was an awesome episode! I can't wait for part 2!
It’s on his Spotify, like a year ago ish
Challenge accepted...
Halo themesong gently fades in..
You got it boss..
Do an episode about script kiddies getting in too deep.
I just knew Justin would be on there :')
Back in the day he kept trying to get my IP to DDOS my home connection because he didn't enjoy getting silenced on IRC for being unhinged and rude
Justin’s my dawg, fuck all y’all 😂
Damn you had my attention so vividly that the cliffhanger felt like a personal attack. I'm like "ay bro ay bro c'mon man don't fucking do me like that I thought you were my homie... Wtf?" Lmfao!
Urghh
Best content ever!!!! I just love this channel!
This brings back memories of modded lobbies in Modern Warfare 2 🤣
Good listen as always!
Subscribed. Great Content. Your narration style is uncannily similar to Ira Glass from NPR.
I love these stories and have gotten me into program late in life (41). Are these stories on Spotify or apple?
I remember when this was going on I was a Junior and Senior in Highschool when the COD MW2 "Mod Lobbys" were going on you couldn't even believe some of the things that these guys were giving to random people all over the US. Points were being given AND scammed you could join one JUST ONE of the lobbies and youre console was considered "Infected" at that point until you turned off the xbox. You would be joining into LIVE MW2 Lobbies with Aim bot wall hacks and so so so much more. I Only knew them as "J-Tag" lobbies and people would PAY YOU thousands upon THOUSANDS of Live points worth 99.99 Just to join your private match of rust for 1 minute in order to receive these infected lobbies and take it online and spread. I cant even tell you how much money I made sitting around playing xbox with my friends during an entire summer. Very fond memories and so many stories.
Thanks for this episode Jack brought back such great memories.
This story is incredible and mainly because of the effort these people went through to gain access to run cfw. Then theres the ps3 that lets you do whatever you want to it 🤣
14:30 I have had both an original xbox dev console and a ps4 dev console in my possession. I have never been part of or associated with game development. I sold the PS4 dev kit to someone on a farm in scotland while it was the current gen console, after contacting Sony and trying to find out what the process was to return it. Basically they didn't have one, and even their team that was supposedly in charge of the dev consoles just sent me a canned off topic response when I contacted them about it. I figured if they officially would not acknowledge ownership of the console, despite my best efforts, it was mine. Part of me thinks I undersold it. I think I got $1200 for it, but I believe it was the most powerful version of the dev console that existed. The thing was like 20lbs and massive.
Sounds like a radioLab episode. Well done
I’m on a 3rd video of yours. This channel is awesome!!!
One of my all time favourite UA-cam videos
Awesome show. If possible, it would be great if you could eq your guests. Mainly, drop out the one resonant band.
Jack's back with a fucking good one