Glad you are enjoying your new setup! The Marantz is a cooling looking receiver. Curious what you have into your new system. One can get good value going vintage if everything has been serviced and brought up to spec.
Great question. I totally agree, you can get some amazing sounding gear for a really great price by going vintage. I will say that I paid top dollar because everything is serviced and/or refurbished. Also, once I figured out what I wanted, I had to act fast so I probably paid more by not having the luxury of patience. Also, I tried to buy from local or trusted sellers so that if there was a problem I felt a little more comfortable that I could resolve it. Turntable: $800 shipped. It is very clean and serviced to like-new spec. These are pretty rare turntables and usually in need of work or not great cosmetically. Cartridge & Stylus: $450 Amazon. All I can say is this stylus is killer. Probably the best "value" in the setup. Receiver: $1,000 shipped. Kicking myself a little here, but the black face-plate, although an after-market feature, just sucked me in. It too has been serviced, but you can still find these cheaper. Speakers: $700 local pick up. Again, patience is a virtue here. These speakers can run from $300 - $1,000 depending on condition. What you don't want is a pair that end up needing work, because servicing these is very labor intensive. So I pulled the trigger because I was able to hear them first. I hope this helps! Thanks for the question!
This was fantastic. Definitely had those bouts of fatigue. I Urge to spin always returns though. Great on you for doing all that research. I got a ton to learn about gear, but a system upgrade needs to happen sooner than later. Enjoy the new set up. 🤘🏼
Thank you so much for the nice words! Yeah, I had been putting it off for a long time. In a way I was sort of a budget gear martyr, just in the sense that I embraced it with all of its shortcomings. Not that there's anything wrong with that. But finally I was like, okay, time for a change. As long as you're not an obsessive nut like me, you can just take it slow. 😊
I had a love/hate relationship with Magnepan’s at one point. I had the 1.6QR and they were extremely finicky and power hungry. I went all the way up to a 300w solid state and still couldn’t get them to have the right amount of energy. It took me like a year to save up for them, so I was kind of stuck holding on to them for awhile - almost 10 years. I will say those vintage ones you picked up are pretty sick. Good stuff ✌️
After listening to these for a few months now, I know just what you mean. Although these don't seem to be as power-hungry as I was led to think reading through the forums. There are people out there that claim to run these quite nicely with very little power, which is why I decided to take a chance. I'm literally powering these with 30w, and I've read of people going as low as 15w. I'm actually a little surprised that they sound as great as they do, all things considered. I've also read that the quality of current matters, or that they will function with low wattage but will sound way better with a lot of power. To your point though, you were struggling to get them sounding great with 300w! Finicky indeed!!! I don't pretend to understand all of the quirks that seem to come with owning a pair of these! Seems like every setup is unique and everyone has a dramatic range of experiences! Where I struggle with these is with the ultra narrow sweet spot, you really have to fix yourself in a very specific position to appreciate them (especially in a smaller room, I believe). I ignored this little detail because 99.9% of the time it's just me listening, but it is a bit annoying that moving around the room, or standing, or even just turning your head, augments the sound dramatically!!! At some point I would love to get a nice pair of Klipsch Heritage or something like that. Probably won't be any time soon, so I'll just enjoy these, quirks and all, for a while longer. What speakers are you using now?
Thank you so much for saying that! My last system was a Fluance turntable, Klipsch bookshelf speakers, and Schiit preamp and eq. I enjoyed it for about 4 or 5 years, but it was time for a change!
The 2220B is a beautiful receiver as well! Yep, I used the pre out. I had to split the signal using RCA splitters since the sub has no output. One end goes to the sub and the other goes out to an eq and then from the eq back to the receiver's Main In. The eq in the chain allows me to better control the frequencies going to the main speakers. The sub has it's own amp and frequency control so it really is very close to having a dedicated crossover component. Sub = 80hz and below, mains = everything greater than 80hz. You don't need to crossover obviously, but I watched a great video on how to do it, and I believe it does improve the sound quality. At some point my plan is to get a proper crossover with at least 2 channels, which just offers more fine-tuning and flexibility.
Yep, the 2230 is refurbished, and the faceplate is after market. I don't believe the Marantz' ever had an option for the black faceplates back in the day, like the Sansui models did. But now you can find them for pretty much any model. Some are higher quality than others.
@@spinzvinyl right on! I too have a 2230 (I’m having it serviced right now, actually 🙃) and previously explored putting modern fishes on it. This video is definitely good for getting me to make some long overdue changes to my setup 🤘🏻
@ConcertBuddie oh wow. That’s crazy that you have a 2230 too! If you like the black faceplate, you can literally just search for it on Google. I guess I mostly see them on eBay. They’re like around $130.
Dude long as your about the music its all good. Ppl gotta stop being “influenced” by YT salesmen. I saw Fremmer (whom I like) say his $76k phono preamp is worth every dollar hahaha. Thats not about music anymore. Just get good music and everything else is secondary. Recently I worked in a shed and listened to Spotty on an iPhone placed in a bucket 12hrs a day and it was groovy as f**k!
Ah Magnepan.....a friend of mine who worked in a hifi store around '81 brought a pair home to test.....he played "A Nightingale Sang In Berkeley Square" by The Manhattan Transfer and WELL....I think I briefly lost bladder control such was the effect.....*whew* 😬
8:40 it's better than nothing, but on the corners these marshmallows doesn't work with low freq at all, bass traps is more better solution. Great video, always interesting and inspiring 🙂
Thank you so much for the nice words! Yeah, your point is very well taken. Once I started down the acoustic treatment rabbit hole I realized I wasn't prepared to go all-in yet. I'll get there. These foam squares were literally $50, and do a good job of absorbing high frequency reflections. They'll have to do for now, but yes, I'm looking forward to upgrading them to a nicer, more efficient set up for sure!
Planer speakers like Maggies and electrostatic speakers shine in the mid-range and soundstage. For me, they lack the sort of slam I like. I sold my Quad 57s for that reason. That said, Maggies are impressive in what they do, producing a wall of sound (not to be confused with Phil Spector) like you said. I've had my ADS 1230s for 40 years. I've heard plenty of speakers in that time, including Maggies, but none wowed me enough to part with my 1230s. To each his own.
I’ve never heard the 1230s but they look pretty sweet! I’m glad that I snagged these, but I don’t know that I’ll be a Maggie “lifer”. I was curious to see how they’d pair with my system. They sound great in certain situations, but aren’t great for others, as you say. I definitely think the best way to set them up is crossed over with a sub. I listen to so much jazz that it really squeezes the best out of these speakers. But to your point, I wouldn’t recommend them to someone that primarily listens to music with heavy bass. Thanks for your comment!
@@spinzvinyl It's the aesthetics also, not just the sound. Some can't get past the way Maggies look. I like the look of large, heavy cabinets such as they 1230s. They stand just under 41" and weigh 87 pounds apiece - heavily constructed with thick walnut veneer.
Glad you are enjoying your new setup! The Marantz is a cooling looking receiver. Curious what you have into your new system. One can get good value going vintage if everything has been serviced and brought up to spec.
Great question. I totally agree, you can get some amazing sounding gear for a really great price by going vintage. I will say that I paid top dollar because everything is serviced and/or refurbished. Also, once I figured out what I wanted, I had to act fast so I probably paid more by not having the luxury of patience. Also, I tried to buy from local or trusted sellers so that if there was a problem I felt a little more comfortable that I could resolve it.
Turntable: $800 shipped. It is very clean and serviced to like-new spec. These are pretty rare turntables and usually in need of work or not great cosmetically.
Cartridge & Stylus: $450 Amazon. All I can say is this stylus is killer. Probably the best "value" in the setup.
Receiver: $1,000 shipped. Kicking myself a little here, but the black face-plate, although an after-market feature, just sucked me in. It too has been serviced, but you can still find these cheaper.
Speakers: $700 local pick up. Again, patience is a virtue here. These speakers can run from $300 - $1,000 depending on condition. What you don't want is a pair that end up needing work, because servicing these is very labor intensive. So I pulled the trigger because I was able to hear them first.
I hope this helps! Thanks for the question!
Wonderful system. I made this journey several years ago. Your thoughtful choices are inspiring. Happy listening 🎶. Greg
Hey Greg. Thanks so much for the nice words! Happy listening to you!
Great example of a beautiful vintage system. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you for saying that, and for watching the video! Have a great weekend!
Awesome Man. Enjoy, Great Christmas gift for you.
Thanks, Rob! Absolutely, Christmas came early this year! 🎁
This was fantastic. Definitely had those bouts of fatigue. I
Urge to spin always returns though. Great on you for doing all that research. I got a ton to learn about gear, but a system upgrade needs to happen sooner than later. Enjoy the new set up. 🤘🏼
Thank you so much for the nice words! Yeah, I had been putting it off for a long time. In a way I was sort of a budget gear martyr, just in the sense that I embraced it with all of its shortcomings. Not that there's anything wrong with that. But finally I was like, okay, time for a change. As long as you're not an obsessive nut like me, you can just take it slow. 😊
I had a love/hate relationship with Magnepan’s at one point. I had the 1.6QR and they were extremely finicky and power hungry. I went all the way up to a 300w solid state and still couldn’t get them to have the right amount of energy. It took me like a year to save up for them, so I was kind of stuck holding on to them for awhile - almost 10 years. I will say those vintage ones you picked up are pretty sick. Good stuff ✌️
After listening to these for a few months now, I know just what you mean. Although these don't seem to be as power-hungry as I was led to think reading through the forums. There are people out there that claim to run these quite nicely with very little power, which is why I decided to take a chance. I'm literally powering these with 30w, and I've read of people going as low as 15w. I'm actually a little surprised that they sound as great as they do, all things considered.
I've also read that the quality of current matters, or that they will function with low wattage but will sound way better with a lot of power. To your point though, you were struggling to get them sounding great with 300w! Finicky indeed!!! I don't pretend to understand all of the quirks that seem to come with owning a pair of these! Seems like every setup is unique and everyone has a dramatic range of experiences!
Where I struggle with these is with the ultra narrow sweet spot, you really have to fix yourself in a very specific position to appreciate them (especially in a smaller room, I believe). I ignored this little detail because 99.9% of the time it's just me listening, but it is a bit annoying that moving around the room, or standing, or even just turning your head, augments the sound dramatically!!!
At some point I would love to get a nice pair of Klipsch Heritage or something like that. Probably won't be any time soon, so I'll just enjoy these, quirks and all, for a while longer.
What speakers are you using now?
Fantastic video. I absolutely loved it.😍🥰
Thank you for saying that! It means a lot!
@@spinzvinyl Hey, There were some important things to say about your youtube channel.
System looks great! Congrats 🎉 And, as always, awesome video. I love watching your stuff.
Thank you so much! 😉
Jason, I just discovered your channel‼️ I'm digging your system and vibe‼️ You have a new subscriber in me‼️
Thank you so much for saying that! Very happy you enjoyed the video, and glad to have you!
Love the Napster shirt.
Haha! Thank you!
Thanks for sharing, great video.
What kind of set up have you had before?
Thank you so much for saying that! My last system was a Fluance turntable, Klipsch bookshelf speakers, and Schiit preamp and eq. I enjoyed it for about 4 or 5 years, but it was time for a change!
that looks a great turntable jason, very nice!
Thank you! Yeah, it's right up my alley. I love it!
@@spinzvinyl that looks like i mean!
I have a Marantz Model 2220B that I Love but seldom use. Where did you plug in your powered subwoofer on your Marantz!
Pre Out?
The 2220B is a beautiful receiver as well!
Yep, I used the pre out. I had to split the signal using RCA splitters since the sub has no output. One end goes to the sub and the other goes out to an eq and then from the eq back to the receiver's Main In.
The eq in the chain allows me to better control the frequencies going to the main speakers. The sub has it's own amp and frequency control so it really is very close to having a dedicated crossover component. Sub = 80hz and below, mains = everything greater than 80hz.
You don't need to crossover obviously, but I watched a great video on how to do it, and I believe it does improve the sound quality.
At some point my plan is to get a proper crossover with at least 2 channels, which just offers more fine-tuning and flexibility.
This was great - curious on your 2230: refurbished, right? Custom faceplate?
Yep, the 2230 is refurbished, and the faceplate is after market. I don't believe the Marantz' ever had an option for the black faceplates back in the day, like the Sansui models did. But now you can find them for pretty much any model. Some are higher quality than others.
@@spinzvinyl right on! I too have a 2230 (I’m having it serviced right now, actually 🙃) and previously explored putting modern fishes on it. This video is definitely good for getting me to make some long overdue changes to my setup 🤘🏻
@ConcertBuddie oh wow. That’s crazy that you have a 2230 too! If you like the black faceplate, you can literally just search for it on Google. I guess I mostly see them on eBay. They’re like around $130.
Dude long as your about the music its all good. Ppl gotta stop being “influenced” by YT salesmen. I saw Fremmer (whom I like) say his $76k phono preamp is worth every dollar hahaha. Thats not about music anymore. Just get good music and everything else is secondary. Recently I worked in a shed and listened to Spotty on an iPhone placed in a bucket 12hrs a day and it was groovy as f**k!
Ah Magnepan.....a friend of mine who worked in a hifi store around '81 brought a pair home to test.....he played "A Nightingale Sang In Berkeley Square" by The Manhattan Transfer and WELL....I think I briefly lost bladder control such was the effect.....*whew* 😬
Haha! Yeah, Magnepans are a whole different experience!
I'd be interested to know what gear your got rid of, I don't remember you mentioning it.
Hey, thanks for asking! I got rid of a Fluance turntable, a pair of Klipsch bookshelf speakers, and Schiit preamp and eq.
What was your amp?
@@amb3cog the Klipsch speakers were powered.
8:40 it's better than nothing, but on the corners these marshmallows doesn't work with low freq at all, bass traps is more better solution. Great video, always interesting and inspiring 🙂
Thank you so much for the nice words! Yeah, your point is very well taken. Once I started down the acoustic treatment rabbit hole I realized I wasn't prepared to go all-in yet. I'll get there. These foam squares were literally $50, and do a good job of absorbing high frequency reflections. They'll have to do for now, but yes, I'm looking forward to upgrading them to a nicer, more efficient set up for sure!
Wow bro that takes complete balls to sell off your complete system, To buy another one.. I don't think I could do that though I wish I could...lol
Yeah, it was a lot of work and a little scary, but once I made the decision there was no turning back. I'm very pleased with the end result though!
Planer speakers like Maggies and electrostatic speakers shine in the mid-range and soundstage. For me, they lack the sort of slam I like. I sold my Quad 57s for that reason. That said, Maggies are impressive in what they do, producing a wall of sound (not to be confused with Phil Spector) like you said. I've had my ADS 1230s for 40 years. I've heard plenty of speakers in that time, including Maggies, but none wowed me enough to part with my 1230s. To each his own.
I’ve never heard the 1230s but they look pretty sweet! I’m glad that I snagged these, but I don’t know that I’ll be a Maggie “lifer”. I was curious to see how they’d pair with my system. They sound great in certain situations, but aren’t great for others, as you say. I definitely think the best way to set them up is crossed over with a sub. I listen to so much jazz that it really squeezes the best out of these speakers. But to your point, I wouldn’t recommend them to someone that primarily listens to music with heavy bass. Thanks for your comment!
@@spinzvinyl It's the aesthetics also, not just the sound. Some can't get past the way Maggies look. I like the look of large, heavy cabinets such as they 1230s. They stand just under 41" and weigh 87 pounds apiece - heavily constructed with thick walnut veneer.
Adding subs using an active crossover really helps with the bass slam short comings that maggies have.
@@dajikbatarang1 A guy I know added an 18" Velodyne sub to his 1.6 Maggies. Makes a huge difference, especially when viewing movies.
@@MarkMiller-i8q i use dual JL Audio subs with my 1.7i’s that are actively crossed over. The integration is seamless.
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