✌ Hi! Please be so kind as to consider this message for a moment. It may not surprise you to know that these videos take a lot of time and effort to produce, and they're also not particularly cheap. I'm hoping that this project will be sustainable in the long run, so that I can fulfil the goal of creating a complete catalogue of philosophical and psychological texts that will aid people's research for a long time to come. A small bit of support from a small number of viewers can determine the survival of this project, so if you're in a position for that to be you, here are a few ways to help (all scripts and artwork will be available to supporters): Share the channel with a friend:▶ youtube.com/@mindofnous?sub_confirmation=1 Become a Patron of the channel:🎗 patreon.com/mindofnous Send me a one time donation:🎁 ko-fi.com/mindofnous Try the best AI voice cloning:🎙 try.elevenlabs.io/s5ziczv1990t Alternatively, if you didn't know already, I am also developing a philosophical science called paraphilosophy, which is discussed on my main channel: Watch a 4 minute intro to my work: 🪬 ua-cam.com/video/P4gvxs3jAHQ/v-deo.html Check out my book: 📕 pge.me/4JWyoe I also have a discord server related to my main channel, so if you're interested in learning/discussing paraphilosophy, feel free to join: discord.gg/HHFcG76v7y Thank you SO much! 🙏
After learning about vultology (currently being developed by Juan E. Sandoval), I wanted to learn about Jung's original descriptions - which forms its basis. This is a good summary for a start.
@@mindofnous It's basically a theory that the way we move our bodies (non-verbal communication) correlates with our preferred ways of thinking. For example, a typical politician will have a rigid stance and project their hands outwards to emphasise points as they talk. They're comfortable in an open position, and like their mind, their body seems to enforce their way of thinking unto the air or universe. A lot of them are typed as Te leads because they are the types drawn to that sort of position and likely to succeed too. The use of each cognitive function is characterised by a list of bodily movements styles, and by watching a long enough video of a person that's communicating and noting their most commonly used nuances and how strongly they are used, one can make a good guess of their preferred mental processes just from how they move as they communicate.
I got really into it for a while and still have some knowledge of typing people using the system but I haven't undergone the official training and I'm not part of the research team. I'm just someone that got really interested in the subject and wanted to get good at it. I guess I usually lose my compulsive-level interest in things after reaching that point.
Leonardo da Vinci said " The greatest deception men suffer is from their own opinions " Plato shared with us wisdom he learnt from Egypt, wisdom that was a death sentence in Greece, Rome ( Christianity) ..Pythagoras, Socrates and later Hypatia of Alexandria. Plato in his dialogue " The Republic " tells the allegory of " The Cave " Plato starts by telling us of prisoners being held in a sort of underground den, let us examine this den via the geometry of Bernhard Riemann and Felix Klein..Klein bottle..3rd and 4th dimensions. Plato tells us that the prisoners are bound up unable to move their heads, let us examine this bondage via the psychology of Erich Fromm.. socialisation of consciousness.. aware-unaware. Plato tells us that the prisoners mistake shadows for substance, let us examine this mistake via the philosophy of Thales and Kant..synthetic a priori..not thing in itself. Plato tells us that one of the prisoners is released, let us examine this release via the instructions given by T.Lobsang Rampa..stilling the mind and conscious astral travel..leaving the cave/body. Plato tells us that the prisoners will reject this release, let us examine this rejection via the psychological effects of Stockholm syndrome..Plato quotes Homer " Better to be a poor man, and have a poor master, and endure anything, than to think and live after their manner " Men are not prisoners of fate, but only prisoners of their own minds. Mathew 23 13 31
This is that one thing I disagree with Jung , I think Introverted Thinking being about philosophy and not being used in science and not being recognized by society is really wrong, Ti can be and is used everywhere, science is actually something that Introverted Thinking types do participate alot in. There are introverted thinking types in sciences, arts, healthcare, mechanics, sports, education, finances et cetera. Also, by ''subjective'' Jung meant that this thinking happens solely in the head and cannot be experienced by others (Check the ''psychological definition', of ''subjective''), it is like calculating 95 x 73 in your head or visualizing causes and effects with what Jung called ''Subjective images'' (Aka images in your head, not images of your feelings and beliefs) , not about ''personnal beliefs and emotions'' which are Introverted Feeling and actually highly repressed by the Introverted Thinking type, this is why you barely hear them say ''I believe'' and ''I feel like'' and instead hear them say '' I think'' all the time. While the ET type uses facts in front of it to prove points and make decisions, the IT type uses these facts at a subjective level, to link things together, to create an inner understanding of the world and how things work. There are many times when I wrote massive opinional paragraphes on subjects and Extroverted Thinking types wouldn't believe me because what I said contradicted their ''objective opinion''... Many times I had to search back places where I found the information (Sometimes years ago) with which I created these opinions of mine, citing many sources, really tiring.
I believe Jung is referring to the purist methodology of science in regard to extraverted thinking. So, refining consensus through experimentation, along with the industry of peer-review literature, make the scientific method extraverted. I recall that, conversely, he recognised theoretical science as an introverted thinking exercise, an example being Einstein's method of 'gedankenexperiment'. Likewise, he recognised the epistemological empiricists as forming an extraverted branch of philosophy. In the first part of the book he tries to show how, in really all arts and disciplines, there is an extraverted and an introverted approach. Interesting thoughts, though! Thanks for your comment and for watching.
Thanks for this clear video. For me it’s a bit difficult to understand that ‘people with equal thinking and feeling are considered immature’. Is there a reasoning behind it?
In Jung's theory of development, a dominant function is promoted and its opposite is repressed. At least early in life, differentiation of the dominant function is a marker of growth. A balance between thinking and feeling therefore indicates a lack of differentiation of the dominant function, and an immature personality. Nevertheless, Jung also says that the inferior function should be integrated into consciousness as life goes on. So a balance between thinking and feeling could in some cases be a sign of a mature personality, if conscious effort towards integration has been made throughout life.
Not everything makes sense to me, maybe somebody can explain? I know quite a few feeling types who are excellent mathematicians or physicists. They are the most excellent thinkers but they have a big heart too, and would don't make decisions like robots would, considering their value and others. You are saying that in thinking types, feeling is repressed and is primitive and infantile. This hasn't been my real life experience. Also, how would you actually spot a thinking or feeling type in real life? This all sounds rather impractical to me.
Are they infj, I mean infj looping with ni-ti is actually very strong in mathematics especially in very abstract subfield like category theory, Jocab Lurie honestly seems like a infj to me. like for people outside math, we have people like Ludwig Wittenstein, Noam Chomsky, Alfred North Whitehead, all of their work has a very abstract metaphysical vibe to them.
Another thing is that even in the theory, thinking and feeling can be very balanced but instead intuition and sensation would be very imbalance, it depends on your type. For example practical people that fully rely on experience and ignore possibilities , people that overthink but can't see obvious things in front of them. For example the type that I describe tends to be very balance with thinking and feeling but lose touch with the reality easily.
You mentioned category theory... a friend of mine is trying to create a new theory in this exact domain. And I understood that the functions involved in such a process must be extraverted, since it orients itself on already established knowledge from the outside world (extraverred thinking), and come up with new findings related to the outside world (extraverted intuition).
@@macktheknife8443 that is more interesting, since I wouldn't be surprised at all for infj, since they are everywhere in the academia especially in philosophy, but there are every types in all the places
✌ Hi! Please be so kind as to consider this message for a moment.
It may not surprise you to know that these videos take a lot of time and effort to produce, and they're also not particularly cheap. I'm hoping that this project will be sustainable in the long run, so that I can fulfil the goal of creating a complete catalogue of philosophical and psychological texts that will aid people's research for a long time to come.
A small bit of support from a small number of viewers can determine the survival of this project, so if you're in a position for that to be you, here are a few ways to help (all scripts and artwork will be available to supporters):
Share the channel with a friend:▶ youtube.com/@mindofnous?sub_confirmation=1
Become a Patron of the channel:🎗 patreon.com/mindofnous
Send me a one time donation:🎁 ko-fi.com/mindofnous
Try the best AI voice cloning:🎙 try.elevenlabs.io/s5ziczv1990t
Alternatively, if you didn't know already, I am also developing a philosophical science called paraphilosophy, which is discussed on my main channel:
Watch a 4 minute intro to my work: 🪬 ua-cam.com/video/P4gvxs3jAHQ/v-deo.html
Check out my book: 📕 pge.me/4JWyoe
I also have a discord server related to my main channel, so if you're interested in learning/discussing paraphilosophy, feel free to join: discord.gg/HHFcG76v7y
Thank you SO much! 🙏
After learning about vultology (currently being developed by Juan E. Sandoval), I wanted to learn about Jung's original descriptions - which forms its basis. This is a good summary for a start.
Interesting, I'd not heard of vultology before!
@@mindofnous It's basically a theory that the way we move our bodies (non-verbal communication) correlates with our preferred ways of thinking.
For example, a typical politician will have a rigid stance and project their hands outwards to emphasise points as they talk. They're comfortable in an open position, and like their mind, their body seems to enforce their way of thinking unto the air or universe. A lot of them are typed as Te leads because they are the types drawn to that sort of position and likely to succeed too.
The use of each cognitive function is characterised by a list of bodily movements styles, and by watching a long enough video of a person that's communicating and noting their most commonly used nuances and how strongly they are used, one can make a good guess of their preferred mental processes just from how they move as they communicate.
I got really into it for a while and still have some knowledge of typing people using the system but I haven't undergone the official training and I'm not part of the research team. I'm just someone that got really interested in the subject and wanted to get good at it. I guess I usually lose my compulsive-level interest in things after reaching that point.
Wonderful summery.👏🏼👏🏼 Thank you, I look forward to seeing more of your content.😊
Thank you so much!
This was so easy to understand and actually relate to. Also the artwork was amazing! Certainly gonna be watching more of this. Glad I found you.
Thank you for your kind comments. I'm really glad you found this useful. Best of luck to you! 🙏
This channel was a pleasure to come across keep doing what you do brother.
Appreciate that dude. Take care.
very well explained .
I have completed the book already and this video can be called a Good summary 👍
Leonardo da Vinci said " The greatest deception men suffer is from their own opinions " Plato shared with us wisdom he learnt from Egypt, wisdom that was a death sentence in Greece, Rome ( Christianity) ..Pythagoras, Socrates and later Hypatia of Alexandria. Plato in his dialogue " The Republic " tells the allegory of " The Cave " Plato starts by telling us of prisoners being held in a sort of underground den, let us examine this den via the geometry of Bernhard Riemann and Felix Klein..Klein bottle..3rd and 4th dimensions. Plato tells us that the prisoners are bound up unable to move their heads, let us examine this bondage via the psychology of Erich Fromm.. socialisation of consciousness.. aware-unaware. Plato tells us that the prisoners mistake shadows for substance, let us examine this mistake via the philosophy of Thales and Kant..synthetic a priori..not thing in itself. Plato tells us that one of the prisoners is released, let us examine this release via the instructions given by T.Lobsang Rampa..stilling the mind and conscious astral travel..leaving the cave/body. Plato tells us that the prisoners will reject this release, let us examine this rejection via the psychological effects of Stockholm syndrome..Plato quotes Homer " Better to be a poor man, and have a poor master, and endure anything, than to think and live after their manner " Men are not prisoners of fate, but only prisoners of their own minds. Mathew 23 13 31
This is that one thing I disagree with Jung , I think Introverted Thinking being about philosophy and not being used in science and not being recognized by society is really wrong, Ti can be and is used everywhere, science is actually something that Introverted Thinking types do participate alot in. There are introverted thinking types in sciences, arts, healthcare, mechanics, sports, education, finances et cetera.
Also, by ''subjective'' Jung meant that this thinking happens solely in the head and cannot be experienced by others (Check the ''psychological definition', of ''subjective''), it is like calculating 95 x 73 in your head or visualizing causes and effects with what Jung called ''Subjective images'' (Aka images in your head, not images of your feelings and beliefs) , not about ''personnal beliefs and emotions'' which are Introverted Feeling and actually highly repressed by the Introverted Thinking type, this is why you barely hear them say ''I believe'' and ''I feel like'' and instead hear them say '' I think'' all the time.
While the ET type uses facts in front of it to prove points and make decisions, the IT type uses these facts at a subjective level, to link things together, to create an inner understanding of the world and how things work.
There are many times when I wrote massive opinional paragraphes on subjects and Extroverted Thinking types wouldn't believe me because what I said contradicted their ''objective opinion''... Many times I had to search back places where I found the information (Sometimes years ago) with which I created these opinions of mine, citing many sources, really tiring.
I believe Jung is referring to the purist methodology of science in regard to extraverted thinking. So, refining consensus through experimentation, along with the industry of peer-review literature, make the scientific method extraverted. I recall that, conversely, he recognised theoretical science as an introverted thinking exercise, an example being Einstein's method of 'gedankenexperiment'.
Likewise, he recognised the epistemological empiricists as forming an extraverted branch of philosophy. In the first part of the book he tries to show how, in really all arts and disciplines, there is an extraverted and an introverted approach.
Interesting thoughts, though! Thanks for your comment and for watching.
Thanks for talking the time to share this.
@mindofnous which book are you referring too?
Thanks a lot. You explained it throughly
Thanks for this clear video. For me it’s a bit difficult to understand that ‘people with equal thinking and feeling are considered immature’. Is there a reasoning behind it?
In Jung's theory of development, a dominant function is promoted and its opposite is repressed. At least early in life, differentiation of the dominant function is a marker of growth. A balance between thinking and feeling therefore indicates a lack of differentiation of the dominant function, and an immature personality. Nevertheless, Jung also says that the inferior function should be integrated into consciousness as life goes on. So a balance between thinking and feeling could in some cases be a sign of a mature personality, if conscious effort towards integration has been made throughout life.
@@mindofnous Thank you for your thorough explanations!
Excellent video my friend
Thanks again, friend. :)
Nice and easy to understand ❤️
Glad you think so!
This was fantastic!
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Not everything makes sense to me, maybe somebody can explain? I know quite a few feeling types who are excellent mathematicians or physicists. They are the most excellent thinkers but they have a big heart too, and would don't make decisions like robots would, considering their value and others. You are saying that in thinking types, feeling is repressed and is primitive and infantile. This hasn't been my real life experience.
Also, how would you actually spot a thinking or feeling type in real life? This all sounds rather impractical to me.
Are they infj, I mean infj looping with ni-ti is actually very strong in mathematics especially in very abstract subfield like category theory, Jocab Lurie honestly seems like a infj to me. like for people outside math, we have people like Ludwig Wittenstein, Noam Chomsky,
Alfred North Whitehead, all of their work has a very abstract metaphysical vibe to them.
Another thing is that even in the theory, thinking and feeling can be very balanced but instead intuition and sensation would be very imbalance, it depends on your type. For example practical people that fully rely on experience and ignore possibilities , people that overthink but can't see obvious things in front of them. For example the type that I describe tends to be very balance with thinking and feeling but lose touch with the reality easily.
And by the way two of my aforementioned friends are ENFP and INFP respectively.
You mentioned category theory... a friend of mine is trying to create a new theory in this exact domain.
And I understood that the functions involved in such a process must be extraverted, since it orients itself on already established knowledge from the outside world (extraverred thinking), and come up with new findings related to the outside world (extraverted intuition).
@@macktheknife8443 that is more interesting, since I wouldn't be surprised at all for infj, since they are everywhere in the academia especially in philosophy, but there are every types in all the places
Moral of the story.... we're all screwed and there is no hope.