So is it normal to get a new subframe or just change the bushings? My mechanic suggested replacing the subframe on my 2009 Rogue, That's almost 1,000 dollars. It has 180K but a new transmission because of their CVT issues recall. So, it's relatively new save the suspension issues. Please advise. TY
Well put video, will be usefull to many users. Especially that you did it mostly with all common tools. The way we found that was the fastest and easiest is to burn the bushing with a torch either oxy/acetylene but a MAP (yellow bottle) can get it done aswell, be sure that you're in a well vented area and free of combustible. We then use a air chisel to get the outer race out, starting from the lip that overlaps on the subframe sleeve all the way around and it then pull out almost by itself as going around the whole external race with the air chisel.
@@gmurf5599 The heat is not applied long enough to do any harm to the subframe, and you just burnt out the rubber with the torch, you can put your bare hand directly on the subframe after you've torch'd them out. Also, the subframe is made from standard mild steel, if heat was a worry, they would'nt have had the bushing "sleeves" welded to the subframe as that itself genrates way more heat than burning up the rubber part of the bushing.
+1 on just setting the rubber on fire with a small MAP torch. Just let the rubber burn. It will not get hot enough to damage the metal. Also, a small air hammer can help driving the bushing out in some cases. Saves a lot of time...
is this same so called crossmember bushing.? and what the other flat bush rubber that pluginto the at one side by hand. it seat horizontally at sub frame
@7:55 Can you use a special press tools and press and receiving cups to remove those bushings? Or you always need to drill some parts out? Thank you for the informative film. @9:03 Special thanks for pointing out on the fact that some manufacturers produce bushings without Inner Race, and you might need to reuse the original ones. We have 2009 Nissan Sentra and already on 61K (we didn't drive it a lot) the front bushings on the Front Subframe went bad. So it is important to have those extra bushings, and better extra subframe with newly inslalled bushings. I want to remark here, that something strange is going on w/suspention on that car. I replaced all the struts and shocks, hoping that it was them what caused the clunking, and all of them were bad. We have 2 other GM cars and on one of them the Struts (they all have struts only) lasted 111K, and another car had 130K and no problems w/struts (I replaced them, but that is just bcs I wanted the car to sit higher).
Approx. how much would a shop charge to do what you guys did in the video? Remove the subframe and old bushings, and reinstall new ones and reinstall the subframe?
I have a 2014 Q50. Are there any after market rear-subframe bushings that will work for it? My dealer wants to charge me $2700 to replace the whole sub frame and I can't seem to find any specific bushings for the Q50.
I wish I had this tip when installing my rear diff bushings for my 04 350z. I just replaced the subframe bushings and left the left and right ones alone
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I ran into trouble with the two larger subframe bushings and realized I needed a heavier sledgehammer and chisel because the ones I had were just tiny so that makes a big difference in being able to get them out.
so yeah guys I'm not really sure what subframe you're working on there I'm going to guess it's a 300ZX but it's so different on each car you really need a video for each one and doing solid subframe bushings would be helpful. I didn't find this to be extremely useful for my 350Z.
I've seen another video where they heat the subframe with a torch and freeze the (solid) bushing to create a big enough difference that the bushings don't have to be pressed in. Would you recommend this, could it possibly be bad for the bushings to do this? (assuming they are solid bushings)
I noticed when I was braking at high speeds that my car was bumpy. I took it to the Nissan service they charging more than $2K to replace the bushings along with the subframe in my 2014 Pathfinder. 🤔😱 they claim that the subframe must go. Thankfully I have warranty on the car so it’s covered. They quote it 9 hour labor.
Do you have a distinct whine coming from the rear as you increase speed. I was thinking solid subframe and differential bushings from SPL will I get this whine. ua-cam.com/video/cOSiVcOsEjU/v-deo.html The time frame where I hear it start is at 15 seconds in and starts at 30mph. Will I have to deal with this?
Hopefully this helps everyone out! If you have any questions don't be shy to ask
So is it normal to get a new subframe or just change the bushings? My mechanic suggested replacing the subframe on my 2009 Rogue, That's almost 1,000 dollars. It has 180K but a new transmission because of their CVT issues recall. So, it's relatively new save the suspension issues. Please advise. TY
@@jeanetteroberts4427 I would get a new mechanic
I really wanna know what brand doesn’t include the inner sleeve? I have yet to see a brand that doesn’t offer it unless it’s some eBay trash.
Keep up the good work with the videos. I buy from you guys all the time and i love watching the videos you guys make. Make more youtube videos!
Well put video, will be usefull to many users. Especially that you did it mostly with all common tools.
The way we found that was the fastest and easiest is to burn the bushing with a torch either oxy/acetylene but a MAP (yellow bottle) can get it done aswell, be sure that you're in a well vented area and free of combustible. We then use a air chisel to get the outer race out, starting from the lip that overlaps on the subframe sleeve all the way around and it then pull out almost by itself as going around the whole external race with the air chisel.
Heating the sub frame is not advised. You do not want to mess with the hardness of the steel.
@@gmurf5599 The heat is not applied long enough to do any harm to the subframe, and you just burnt out the rubber with the torch, you can put your bare hand directly on the subframe after you've torch'd them out.
Also, the subframe is made from standard mild steel, if heat was a worry, they would'nt have had the bushing "sleeves" welded to the subframe as that itself genrates way more heat than burning up the rubber part of the bushing.
This video was sick! I own a 350z 03 and you guys motivate to make a UA-cam channel of my own! Keep up the work guys!
Thank You!!
Damn. Your edits are sick! Subscribing rn.
A ball joint press works great also.
Great tutorial I have a rear end of a z32 that needs the bushings replace
+1 on just setting the rubber on fire with a small MAP torch. Just let the rubber burn. It will not get hot enough to damage the metal.
Also, a small air hammer can help driving the bushing out in some cases. Saves a lot of time...
is this same so called crossmember bushing.? and what the other flat bush rubber that pluginto the at one side by hand. it seat horizontally at sub frame
@7:55 Can you use a special press tools and press and receiving cups to remove those bushings? Or you always need to drill some parts out? Thank you for the informative film.
@9:03 Special thanks for pointing out on the fact that some manufacturers produce bushings without Inner Race, and you might need to reuse the original ones. We have 2009 Nissan Sentra and already on 61K (we didn't drive it a lot) the front bushings on the Front Subframe went bad. So it is important to have those extra bushings, and better extra subframe with newly inslalled bushings. I want to remark here, that something strange is going on w/suspention on that car. I replaced all the struts and shocks, hoping that it was them what caused the clunking, and all of them were bad. We have 2 other GM cars and on one of them the Struts (they all have struts only) lasted 111K, and another car had 130K and no problems w/struts (I replaced them, but that is just bcs I wanted the car to sit higher).
Approx. how much would a shop charge to do what you guys did in the video? Remove the subframe and old bushings, and reinstall new ones and reinstall the subframe?
Fucked up trying to install the energy suspension subframe bushings, I removed the whole sleeve lol now it’s time to order these
Smh, we really have to reuse them
I have a 2014 Q50. Are there any after market rear-subframe bushings that will work for it? My dealer wants to charge me $2700 to replace the whole sub frame and I can't seem to find any specific bushings for the Q50.
Do you think that the polyurethane might helps?
I am just wondering, is no tool for this ?
I wish I had this tip when installing my rear diff bushings for my 04 350z. I just replaced the subframe bushings and left the left and right ones alone
Well that's a shame. We are here now. Dont be afraid to ask us for help, we try to make videos on subjects people ask us about so comment away on future videos
Really appreciate the content!
I ran into trouble with the two larger subframe bushings and realized I needed a heavier sledgehammer and chisel because the ones I had were just tiny so that makes a big difference in being able to get them out.
so yeah guys I'm not really sure what subframe you're working on there I'm going to guess it's a 300ZX but it's so different on each car you really need a video for each one and doing solid subframe bushings would be helpful. I didn't find this to be extremely useful for my 350Z.
Just had my rear subframe bushing replaced by Infiniti, sucks that they had to replace the whole rear crossmember. Warranty to the rescue!
you got lucky there, Glad to hear it was covered though
I've seen another video where they heat the subframe with a torch and freeze the (solid) bushing to create a big enough difference that the bushings don't have to be pressed in. Would you recommend this, could it possibly be bad for the bushings to do this? (assuming they are solid bushings)
it can help, but usually the tolerances are so tight it won't make a HUGE difference
Nice video 🤙🏼
What’s the subframe from?
I noticed when I was braking at high speeds that my car was bumpy. I took it to the Nissan service they charging more than $2K to replace the bushings along with the subframe in my 2014 Pathfinder. 🤔😱 they claim that the subframe must go.
Thankfully I have warranty on the car so it’s covered. They quote it 9 hour labor.
Thank you 🤘🏾🔥
Better make your own polyurethane bushings..
Do you have a distinct whine coming from the rear as you increase speed. I was thinking solid subframe and differential bushings from SPL will I get this whine. ua-cam.com/video/cOSiVcOsEjU/v-deo.html The time frame where I hear it start is at 15 seconds in and starts at 30mph. Will I have to deal with this?