@@davidepannone6021 yeah but they didn’t even give him any mic time, which is his biggest if not only strength, they could’ve gotten literally anyone else to be a silent jobber if that’s what they wanted. That’s like hiring Eminem to make balloon animals at a birthday party instead of do the thing he’s actually good at.
@Davide Pannone You ate fucking ignorant. Eddie is many things but he is no jobber and only a bloody ignorant smark who thinks who knows everything (but doesn't) would say something so stupid about Eddue Kingston. Maybe try looking up his work before you open your mouth again
@@davidepannone6021Exactly. Tony Khan’s booking of AEW is proof that, if you try to get everyone over, no one gets over. You need four or five guys who are main event caliber, a couple people in the midcard that could be elevated to the main event over time, and then a bunch of guys who are just there to take losses and make the stars look good.
He's also gonna take TKs job and what's fucked is he'll probably do it better how do I know he's gonna take his job well it's fucking Slapnuts and he's gonna find some way to take the creative lead position
I remember when I first saw Eddie Kingston it was in some random Indy match and it was really good. then I saw him in Impact and I was like "Maybe he wasn't all that great." now after seeing him agian in AEW, I can see Impact just dropped the ball with the creative.
I only knew of him because of those Chikara videos, then I thought he fell off for a while (and was doing not much in Impact. May have missed that run too). But then there were videos of him absolutely killing it on the mic. Was an instant fan.
The stunner version was originally called "Twist of Hate" when he turned heel in 2010, and he started doing the cutter version(which was still called "Twist of Fate") a lot less at that point. When he was taken off TV after Victory Road 2011 and came back six months later, though, he still did the stunner version more than the cutter version, but both were being called as "Twist of Fate."
@@acceptable1609 The neckbreaker version is called "Extreme Twist of Fate" in the Smackdown games, though I've never heard it actually be called that on commentary. It was rarely used as it is. Regardless, "Twist of Hate" was what the stunner version was initially called on commentary, before they started just calling both the stunner and cutter versions "Twist of Fate."
I always thought Jeff started to use that version of it because he was heavily involved with Matt Hardy at the time and Matt Hardy also uses the Twist of Fate but as his main finisher. Jeff uses it as a signature move to set up for the Swanton Bomb so they had to make it so that Matt's is more special since it's meant to put away people
There is a chance that CM Punk will be done with AEW soon; if he is, he'll qualify for another Ring of the Hawk episode. I was thinking a video about the Dirt Bike Kid could be amusing too; he's mostly famous for getting beaten up by The Great Sazuke but he made a few ECW appearances (I'm not sure if many of those were actually televised and he was mostly just a jobber; his whole career apparently consisted on only 37 matches over the course of 7 years).
@@RandomGuyCDN I'm mostly curious about what Marky thought about his run due to his segments generally being the best parts of AEW programming (as a Punk fan I'll admit I think it's a shame about his outburst at the media scrum before getting into a fight with the Elite).
@@tempestfennac9687 just because a bunch of CM Punk fan girls like you all tuned in to watch his recycled promos every week did not make him the best part of the show
Damn. I remember when the Poetry in Motion would look like Jeff was taking a running start, jumping off a crouching-on-all-4s Matt's back & look like he was impersonating an Olympic highjumper, into the the opponent that would (secretly) catch him. But now we've got..... running & just kinda... falling _on_ them, like the drunk uncle that always shows up & ruins your holiday?
Speaking as someone who only knew Kingston from aew and chikara where they've let him run wild with promos and feuds this is so surreal to me just how badly tna wasted him
The jeff hardy twist of fate tna stunner thing I heard was something to do with Jeff's back. It hurt less for him if it was a stunner like move then an actual twist of fate. Seems to me landing on your ass would hurt your back more, but thats what I heard lol
@@jansmitowiczauthor78 I agree. It's honestly a wonder how they're still going. Though they probably shouldn't be at this point. Matt's knees are so obviously shot to bits and Jeff looks so slow now as his back has clearly gone. I feel they should open a wrestling school if they haven't already and retire.
@@Noobie2k7 Omega? Is that not their school? Matt looks like he has advanced Spondylitis in both hips, it's unpleasant. And Jeff looks like he's never actually selling, he's just in pain. It doesn't surprise me at all that he has such drug problems
I remember when he started in TNA and thinking to myself "this isn't gonna be good" since he's pretty vocal about his views on corporate wrestling. Glad to see Bram doing WAY better in the NWA though
For me, eddie is at his best on the mic doing his own thing, he's passionate and raw and he really gets the crowd's sympathy. He's an underdog and he's reminiscent to wrestling before television existed, which i think is awesome. But it's not everyone's thing
he might not be everyone's thing, but properly used I think you can get a reaction out of everyone. he would make a great mouthpiece that occasionally gets involved when things don't go his way. maybe even kayfabe forbid him to wrestle because he does not follow the rules in is too brutal. like that his weaknesses can be covered up and his strength pushed to the foreground
Jesus, that run was rough. I don't know what clicked with him once he showed up in AEW, but I've loved him just walking up to people and beating the shit out of them to start the match.
Eddie Kingston got me interested in TNA again after so long with his LAX stuff . The promo work he did was amazing I thought. That DDC stuff was rough.
TNA had some weird fascination with Bram. He'd get released then re-signed every other week like he was some hot main event star they couldn't afford to lose (yet they let AJ go). He's never done anything there or anywhere else, just has a vaguely good look and a cool voice. At that time his look didn't stand out at all really, I wouldn't have picked him out of a line up between him, Gunner, Storm, Roode, etc.
@@Markyd123 I used to love Terry's spin kicks back when he was the 'Global' champion for like a year. But that got old quick, just didn't have any personality and his in ring work stagnated badly.
Oh man I remember those days. They used to keep posting what seemed to be every 10 days that bram had signed a new 2 year contract. It became so ridiculous that there was a bot twitter account that would just keep posting picture of bram and a TNA exec shaking hand and saying that bram had signed a two year deal if you mentioned it. I forgot all about that. Crazy times 😂
i gotta thank hawk for introducing me to stuff i never heard of, even eddie Kingston's tna run which i didn't know existed, and i already thought i know alot about him😂
Say what you want about Godderz, toward the end of the BroMans run you could tell how much better he got in the ring. I know he's the Big Brother guy, even more than Luchasaurus is. But he worked hard to get better, i'm kind of surprised he isn't at least in the NWA or something.
@@Markyd123 I didn't know if he was still in OVW or not. I'm sure he still shows up on BB once a summer too. You're prolly right about him just enjoying it as a hobby or whatever.
This video brought an idea back to me. A sort of follow up on some of the low end (C, D, and Shove It Zones) entries of Ring of the Hawk that continued on wrestling for a good. See if they got better after specific runs or jumped to a different company, even compare gimmicks if they had any. This would exclude any one-offs or close enough to one-offs, ie DDP and Ric Flair's final matches after TNA. Examples I can think of right now would be Christy Hemme and Samuel Shaw/Dexter Lumis.
It would have been nice to mention that the DCC was unceremoniously killed because **a wild Slapnuts appeared** to take over creative and decided to push the OiOIOi guys instead.
The stunner Twist Of Fate was in a lot of the WWE video games (as well as the original). And of course Hardy had the inverted version of the move call the Twist Of Hate too!
I never understood Kingston's run in The DCC. He had absolutely nothing in common with the other guys, no prior connections to them whatsoever, and looked totally out of place. I've been a fan of Kingston since 2005, but I knew right away that Impact run wouldn't be the road to success.
Looking back at this. Between the debut, the gear, him not fitting in with bram and storm … TNA did him NO favors. I remember hating this entire thing and not watching once they moved to pop tv
TNA/impact Wrestling failed pretty much everybody during that era. I mean Eddie Kingston was never going to get over and that company. Yeah he had the promo and the DCC was something that was interesting but they dropped it almost as soon as they revealed who was in the group.
Eddie is the saving grace of AEW in my eyes, love that guy. He reminds of of a Sandman character in the sense that "they believe because HE believes. And now I believe"
I'm a massive Eddie Kingston fan so I enjoy lots of his work. He didn't have much to work off with in his first run in TNA but really, REALLY shined when he was part of LAX. First half with DCC (even though I like all that spooky mask cult stuff) did nothing for him, whereas the LAX feud and all the stuff with Konnan, especially the Street Fight in Toronto, showed what he could do without being restrained.
As an April fools gag you should do an ROH episode about Hogan's one match in the XWF. If you wanted to make the video longer, you could throw in his SWS stuff. I think those were commercially released and should be able to be found relatively easily.
@@d.52555 Not specifically because it's been a decade since I watched it, but poor production, bad wrestling, and utterly forgettable. Imagine Hero's of Wrestling, but without the notability of a cracked out Jake Roberts. That's the bar where it sits. All the boring and poor wrestling without anything memorable.
@@sklba632 DAMN, that’s a shame because I remember hearing Rikishi say that everyone had fun on that tour, but maybe the backstage fun didn’t translate to the in ring fun
this was during such a odd time in TNA (DCC could’ve worked but, whoever booked it was clueless or just didn’t care) The DCC concept would later be used with Eric Young & VBD and even Sami Callihan took elements of DCC….. Eddie Kingston is a interesting cat the guy can cut awesome promos but, his ring work is really bad (He was never amazing in ROH or any other indie promotion he worked in he’s very average but, can talk i’m sure he only got the AEW gig due to nepotism (Since AEW is pretty much PWG with a big budget they sign any/all indie names
I actually remembered seeing Kingston in TNA and when I did, I actually was hyped for it (since I saw his work in CZW & Chikara). Sadly, Impact bungled him hard.
@@titoA4794 you said it sir.. he doesn't look like one, because really hes not. He's another stone cold "throw a million punches and kicks" Rather than actually wrestle.
Two things to say about Eddie Kingston's aew and TNA run in some cases it's very true his promo is perfect but is wrestling not so much but he has his good moments and it is very true he does hate cameraman LOL
I'm glad i found this channel - been nice reliving the ol TNA days - but wow - toward the end of this - seeing how far IMPACT! fell from grace - to using TV's? as their huge display? and a ring that was basically being dismantled? just... wow - they have been on life support for so long now it seems - certainly not how I thought TNA Impact! would go :(
D Brown was agile for his size.. Jim Cornette gave him the push in Smokey Mountain Wrestling...which eventually landed him on the Main Stage! Good reference comparison via the vest!
This run is the greatest example of the saying "a great talent can't overcome bad booking". He is a great hardcore wrestler, a solid worker in general and one of the best promos ever, and we saw little to none of his strong points until his run with LAX and the OGs.
@@thebigcheese4453 Even some of the best wrestlers in the world insist on using moves they can't do convincingly sometimes (Stone Cold's mudhole stomps if you look at his feet, Cena's STF, The Rock's Sharpshooter, CM Punk's diving elbow...) Not to say Eddie is one of the best in the world in the ring (he is serviceable without a stipulation), but the most important thing in wrestling is personality, and Eddie has that in spades. Edit: I think those chops look bad no matter who does then, including Kobashi.
I used to be a big Eddie Kingston fan, I still am. He has always been great, until he gets in the ring for an actual match. It is even worse nowadays. He can barely run the ropes without blowing himself up in under 30 seconds. His multi man matches are decently entertaining, and you can kind of hide his poor conditioning with those matches. His best attribute is his promos/mic work. And he could probably be a top 5 all time manager if he went that route earlier.
I don't know if this has been brought up before about the DCC but the group's original plans changed when Billy Corgan had left TNA according to James Storm in a July 2017 interview. James Storm was going to win the world championship at Slammiversary 2017 from Bobby Lashley. The group was going to have a 4th member and I swear I am not making this up but Storm was going to have Slapnutz appear as the final member!
Hey Hawk, props on pronouncing my last name correctly. Not many people do, let alone birds. Oh, and I'm glad you enjoyed Eddie's matches. I knew they'd meet your low standards. Keep up the good work as your the last credible person talking about wrestling.
Your right about the gimmicks... Silly, but also really good storytelling.. and the Wrestling was really good! I'm gonna go watch me some Chikara "Mike Quakenbush" style wrestling on this warm, northeast Sunday morning
@@Keepinspirin Kingston gets used a lot hes just been getting in trouble a lot lately Pretty sure hes about to start a new storyline tho theyve been hinting at it for a couple weeks
I know it's slightly outside the way the way this shoe is run, but I really hoped Marky would react to the time during the OGz/LAX fued, TNA had Kingston kayfabe run over a kid with his car.
this is incredibly out of left field, but watching public access cable growing up we saw the show Big Brother on like every summer. Jessie Godderz was on that show before he ever set foot in a ring. crazy small world. I think he wrestles in OVW currently
I agree that he basically was made to be a jobber forever.... and once they actually let him do something? The guy had a few decent promos and 1 gnarly hardcore performance. Sucks that was his last match there after he finally showed promise. Kingson is, well, it was said best in AEW by Jericho. He's the 2nd best Kingston and the 3rd best Eddie, meaning he's the worst of both of his names lmao. Speaks volumes.
Im amazed at how many people in this comment section did not know Kingston was in TNA. Thats exactly where I known him from. Every time I hear his name I keep thinking hes still in TNA 😂😂😂😂
His promos are so raw and real, I fucking love his fued with CM Cunt, he pretty much predicted that Cunt would flame out and disappear again. Kingston and Jericho had an AWESOME old school All Japan style fight at Revolution 2022. His matches are great when he's booked decently and allowed to wrestle his style. His main event PPV against Moxley was brutal but hampered by pandemic no crowds.
@@jansmitowiczauthor78 I’m not knocking his promo abilities, but the guy is an actor. A good one. He’s not a real tough guy. Gonna fat shame me bro? Like dude. Lol. As the Hawk said, he has the physique of someone who has just given up on life,
Jeff wasn't botching. He has two version of the Twist of Fate. He had back problems, he had to alter the move, so he wouldn't take the bump. That's why he stopped using the Swanton, for a bit.
I loved the concrete jungle match and LAX 2 in tna, they were so much better than in aew but Kingston is a very rare case where AEW has used someone better than Impact did
Hey hawk.... Hernandez wears suspenders to keep his pants up ...or are you wanting to do a special no pants edition of ring of the hawk on that?
Ask sonny sonny siaki
@@Markyd123 I tried to ask him a few months ago when I went to Vegas....he just kept yelling at people not to squawk at his A$S!
@@Markyd123 Did you know that Crazzy Steve is considered legally blind how the guy performs so well is really amazing work!!
I remember his run very rarely
@@Markyd123 In impact
This is one of those runs that honestly makes you wonder why a company hired someone if that's all they had planned for them.
You guys realize not every wrestler can be a main eventer or a multi time champion, right? You need jobbers and midcarders too.
@@davidepannone6021 yeah but they didn’t even give him any mic time, which is his biggest if not only strength, they could’ve gotten literally anyone else to be a silent jobber if that’s what they wanted. That’s like hiring Eminem to make balloon animals at a birthday party instead of do the thing he’s actually good at.
@@VLE-Grimace would've changed anything if he was free to talk? No. He would've still jobbed. So yeah, a jobber that could talk. Who cares.
@Davide Pannone You ate fucking ignorant. Eddie is many things but he is no jobber and only a bloody ignorant smark who thinks who knows everything (but doesn't) would say something so stupid about Eddue Kingston. Maybe try looking up his work before you open your mouth again
@@davidepannone6021Exactly. Tony Khan’s booking of AEW is proof that, if you try to get everyone over, no one gets over. You need four or five guys who are main event caliber, a couple people in the midcard that could be elevated to the main event over time, and then a bunch of guys who are just there to take losses and make the stars look good.
It's crazy that Eddie used to be Bastion Booger back in the 90's. Glad he lost some weight.
Not much😅
Not much😅
Markyd has made Slapnuts a legend in 2022! He's been in NWA, GCW, WWE, Ric Flair's last match and now he's rocked up in AEW to take TK's Money 😂
Jarrett is bulletproof.
Slapnuts really is the King of the Mountain
He's also gonna take TKs job and what's fucked is he'll probably do it better how do I know he's gonna take his job well it's fucking Slapnuts and he's gonna find some way to take the creative lead position
I remember when I first saw Eddie Kingston it was in some random Indy match and it was really good. then I saw him in Impact and I was like "Maybe he wasn't all that great." now after seeing him agian in AEW, I can see Impact just dropped the ball with the creative.
I only knew of him because of those Chikara videos, then I thought he fell off for a while (and was doing not much in Impact. May have missed that run too).
But then there were videos of him absolutely killing it on the mic. Was an instant fan.
his managing work was good in impact ogz vs lax
The Jeff Hardy stunner-twist is the "Twist of Hate" which I think started with his Willow character initially
And it's an actual move used in the WWE wrestling games, so it has to be an official move and not a botch.
The stunner version was originally called "Twist of Hate" when he turned heel in 2010, and he started doing the cutter version(which was still called "Twist of Fate") a lot less at that point. When he was taken off TV after Victory Road 2011 and came back six months later, though, he still did the stunner version more than the cutter version, but both were being called as "Twist of Fate."
I thought the twist of hate was the neckbreaker version of the twist of fate
@@acceptable1609 The neckbreaker version is called "Extreme Twist of Fate" in the Smackdown games, though I've never heard it actually be called that on commentary. It was rarely used as it is.
Regardless, "Twist of Hate" was what the stunner version was initially called on commentary, before they started just calling both the stunner and cutter versions "Twist of Fate."
I always thought Jeff started to use that version of it because he was heavily involved with Matt Hardy at the time and Matt Hardy also uses the Twist of Fate but as his main finisher. Jeff uses it as a signature move to set up for the Swanton Bomb so they had to make it so that Matt's is more special since it's meant to put away people
There is a chance that CM Punk will be done with AEW soon; if he is, he'll qualify for another Ring of the Hawk episode. I was thinking a video about the Dirt Bike Kid could be amusing too; he's mostly famous for getting beaten up by The Great Sazuke but he made a few ECW appearances (I'm not sure if many of those were actually televised and he was mostly just a jobber; his whole career apparently consisted on only 37 matches over the course of 7 years).
He's already done. Hawk doesnt need to do a video on the rise and fall of CM McCryfuck. Just let him fade into obscurity
@@RandomGuyCDN I'm mostly curious about what Marky thought about his run due to his segments generally being the best parts of AEW programming (as a Punk fan I'll admit I think it's a shame about his outburst at the media scrum before getting into a fight with the Elite).
@@tempestfennac9687 just because a bunch of CM Punk fan girls like you all tuned in to watch his recycled promos every week did not make him the best part of the show
@@VLE-Grimace What do you consider to be the best parts of Dynamite?
@@tempestfennac9687 when there’s a good wrestling match
I can't agree with the title honestly, his LAX work was really good.
Yea but that first faction he was in was appaling
@@Markyd123 that's fair
What a wholesome disagreement-resolution, only shit wrestling can bring ppl to terms so fast
@@jansmitowiczauthor78 lmfao
@@onorubsediata2720 😳
It may be the shortest video of Ring Of The Hawk ever, but Bobby Fish´s Impact run commented by The Hawk could be glorious.
What run that was just him visiting like Nick Aldis
Damn. I remember when the Poetry in Motion would look like Jeff was taking a running start, jumping off a crouching-on-all-4s Matt's back & look like he was impersonating an Olympic highjumper, into the the opponent that would (secretly) catch him.
But now we've got..... running & just kinda... falling _on_ them, like the drunk uncle that always shows up & ruins your holiday?
Speaking as someone who only knew Kingston from aew and chikara where they've let him run wild with promos and feuds this is so surreal to me just how badly tna wasted him
Chikara was fantastic! Fan of the Ants
The jeff hardy twist of fate tna stunner thing I heard was something to do with Jeff's back. It hurt less for him if it was a stunner like move then an actual twist of fate. Seems to me landing on your ass would hurt your back more, but thats what I heard lol
That's exactly what I figured all these years. The Hardys make me uncomfortable to watch, they look like it hurts to walk.
@@jansmitowiczauthor78 I agree. It's honestly a wonder how they're still going. Though they probably shouldn't be at this point. Matt's knees are so obviously shot to bits and Jeff looks so slow now as his back has clearly gone. I feel they should open a wrestling school if they haven't already and retire.
@@Noobie2k7 Omega? Is that not their school? Matt looks like he has advanced Spondylitis in both hips, it's unpleasant. And Jeff looks like he's never actually selling, he's just in pain. It doesn't surprise me at all that he has such drug problems
Eddie was apart of something with the DCC but that all crumbled when Billy Corgan fell out with Dixie over the sale of the company
I remember when he started in TNA and thinking to myself "this isn't gonna be good" since he's pretty vocal about his views on corporate wrestling. Glad to see Bram doing WAY better in the NWA though
For me, eddie is at his best on the mic doing his own thing, he's passionate and raw and he really gets the crowd's sympathy. He's an underdog and he's reminiscent to wrestling before television existed, which i think is awesome. But it's not everyone's thing
he might not be everyone's thing, but properly used I think you can get a reaction out of everyone.
he would make a great mouthpiece that occasionally gets involved when things don't go his way. maybe even kayfabe forbid him to wrestle because he does not follow the rules in is too brutal. like that his weaknesses can be covered up and his strength pushed to the foreground
He definitely has that relatable everyman thing going for him.
Eddie Kingston makes David young look like The Rock
lmao he does
The master of the Cab Driver Slam, The Cab Driver Slam.
Bro I was having just the worst day and feeling terrible, but I cheered up when I saw a new ring of the hawk. Thanks for what you do
Jesus, that run was rough. I don't know what clicked with him once he showed up in AEW, but I've loved him just walking up to people and beating the shit out of them to start the match.
If underrated has a definition than it would definitely be markyd 123 following the guy since he had 2k subscribers ❤️❤️ love u man from India
Thanks brother
He won't be for long. Just look at the comments whenever anyone talks about Jeff Jarrett, and soon enough you'll find a "wild SLAPNUTS" comment.
Eddie Kingston got me interested in TNA again after so long with his LAX stuff . The promo work he did was amazing I thought. That DDC stuff was rough.
TNA had some weird fascination with Bram. He'd get released then re-signed every other week like he was some hot main event star they couldn't afford to lose (yet they let AJ go). He's never done anything there or anywhere else, just has a vaguely good look and a cool voice. At that time his look didn't stand out at all really, I wouldn't have picked him out of a line up between him, Gunner, Storm, Roode, etc.
I guess the same reason rob terry kept a tna deal for so long. Potential. But yea I agree
@@Markyd123 I used to love Terry's spin kicks back when he was the 'Global' champion for like a year. But that got old quick, just didn't have any personality and his in ring work stagnated badly.
Oh man I remember those days. They used to keep posting what seemed to be every 10 days that bram had signed a new 2 year contract. It became so ridiculous that there was a bot twitter account that would just keep posting picture of bram and a TNA exec shaking hand and saying that bram had signed a two year deal if you mentioned it. I forgot all about that. Crazy times 😂
@@veryonlineman hahahaha that's exactly what I was thinking about when I commented
i gotta thank hawk for introducing me to stuff i never heard of, even eddie Kingston's tna run which i didn't know existed, and i already thought i know alot about him😂
Kingston had such a long history, there was a wrestling company featuring main stream rappers years ago and he was in that company.
@@micahjohnsonboxing6409 Urban wrestling federation?
You have no idea how much I've been waiting for The Hawk to make a video on this KFC cashier.
I remember the DCC. Weird angle that felt like it would go nowhere. I liked Bram as the legend killer, they should have stuck with that.
Please do a "Was it any Good?" for Kane and Big Show tag team.
Here's the short version: no. He should do Chuck Palumbo in WWE
They were my favourite tag team back in the day 😂 They were all I looked forward to.
@@ricardonb6375 Kane and Big Show were a great team, Palumbo was absolute ass
@@ChuckGibbs39 Dude had a pirate gimmick before transitioning into discount American Badass. No surprise he didn't last long in the WWE
"No"
There ya go.
Eddie kingston failed himself
Say what you want about Godderz, toward the end of the BroMans run you could tell how much better he got in the ring. I know he's the Big Brother guy, even more than Luchasaurus is. But he worked hard to get better, i'm kind of surprised he isn't at least in the NWA or something.
Yea I’m suprised he still wrestles in Ovw. Guessing the man has proper career and just wrestles for the fun of it
@@Markyd123 I didn't know if he was still in OVW or not. I'm sure he still shows up on BB once a summer too. You're prolly right about him just enjoying it as a hobby or whatever.
had no idea of this run whatsoever . the hawk continues educating
My only exposure of him before AEW was of TNA so I used to think he wasn’t that good but man do I love him now
How everyone failed Eddie Kingston - especially Eddie Kingston.
This video brought an idea back to me. A sort of follow up on some of the low end (C, D, and Shove It Zones) entries of Ring of the Hawk that continued on wrestling for a good. See if they got better after specific runs or jumped to a different company, even compare gimmicks if they had any. This would exclude any one-offs or close enough to one-offs, ie DDP and Ric Flair's final matches after TNA. Examples I can think of right now would be Christy Hemme and Samuel Shaw/Dexter Lumis.
It would have been nice to mention that the DCC was unceremoniously killed because **a wild Slapnuts appeared** to take over creative and decided to push the OiOIOi guys instead.
The stunner Twist Of Fate was in a lot of the WWE video games (as well as the original). And of course Hardy had the inverted version of the move call the Twist Of Hate too!
Had no idea he had that run
That wooden ring set-up for the last match actually looks awesome. I’d like to see more promotions use the stripped-down look.
I never understood Kingston's run in The DCC. He had absolutely nothing in common with the other guys, no prior connections to them whatsoever, and looked totally out of place. I've been a fan of Kingston since 2005, but I knew right away that Impact run wouldn't be the road to success.
Looking back at this. Between the debut, the gear, him not fitting in with bram and storm … TNA did him NO favors. I remember hating this entire thing and not watching once they moved to pop tv
Pop TV, BTW, is owned by Paramount Global (formerly Viacom), which Marky D hates 😆😆😆
TNA/impact Wrestling failed pretty much everybody during that era. I mean Eddie Kingston was never going to get over and that company. Yeah he had the promo and the DCC was something that was interesting but they dropped it almost as soon as they revealed who was in the group.
Please do a Jeff Hardy Monolouge about himself stealing his own Moves.
Always good to see Kongo Kong again 16:36
Eddie is the saving grace of AEW in my eyes, love that guy. He reminds of of a Sandman character in the sense that "they believe because HE believes. And now I believe"
Wow that's crazy to know he still does the spinning back fist as his finisher LOL shout out to marky
He's been doing the back fist since the indy days
I'm a massive Eddie Kingston fan so I enjoy lots of his work. He didn't have much to work off with in his first run in TNA but really, REALLY shined when he was part of LAX. First half with DCC (even though I like all that spooky mask cult stuff) did nothing for him, whereas the LAX feud and all the stuff with Konnan, especially the Street Fight in Toronto, showed what he could do without being restrained.
I think Ludvig Borga in WWF could be interesting one to your roster
As an April fools gag you should do an ROH episode about Hogan's one match in the XWF. If you wanted to make the video longer, you could throw in his SWS stuff. I think those were commercially released and should be able to be found relatively easily.
Also the australia hulkamania tour
@@TheFailedmessiah Oh god. I had forgotten about that. I think I have the DVD somewhere. Such a disaster.
@@sklba632 can you go in depth on why it was a disaster?
@@d.52555 Not specifically because it's been a decade since I watched it, but poor production, bad wrestling, and utterly forgettable.
Imagine Hero's of Wrestling, but without the notability of a cracked out Jake Roberts. That's the bar where it sits. All the boring and poor wrestling without anything memorable.
@@sklba632 DAMN, that’s a shame because I remember hearing Rikishi say that everyone had fun on that tour, but maybe the backstage fun didn’t translate to the in ring fun
this was during such a odd time in TNA (DCC could’ve worked but, whoever booked it was clueless or just didn’t care) The DCC concept would later be used with Eric Young & VBD and even Sami Callihan took elements of DCC….. Eddie Kingston is a interesting cat the guy can cut awesome promos but, his ring work is really bad (He was never amazing in ROH or any other indie promotion he worked in he’s very average but, can talk i’m sure he only got the AEW gig due to nepotism (Since AEW is pretty much PWG with a big budget they sign any/all indie names
Those 2 kids from the second match must be the 2 only people in the world who own a DCC merchandise
Eddie Kingston, with the mic skills of Punk...and the body of David Young at his worst
I actually remembered seeing Kingston in TNA and when I did, I actually was hyped for it (since I saw his work in CZW & Chikara). Sadly, Impact bungled him hard.
I met Eddie Kingston. Dude is cool as hell and very easy to be around.
Eddie kingston doesn't look like a wrestler
There's a reason for that
@@ASCUMBAGWh0re 😳
@@titoA4794 you said it sir.. he doesn't look like one, because really hes not. He's another stone cold "throw a million punches and kicks" Rather than actually wrestle.
Two things to say about Eddie Kingston's aew and TNA run in some cases it's very true his promo is perfect but is wrestling not so much but he has his good moments and it is very true he does hate cameraman LOL
I think Eddie can have great matches if he's paired with the right opponent, but he certainly isn't a guy who can have great matches with just anyone.
Gotta let the hawk know ow there's been a recent slapnuts sighting in aew.
Eddie has always struck me as a dude who was a passable wrestler who always should've been a manager instead because he's great on the mic
@Chuck Buskee he been skinny fat his whole wrestling career. Beside mic work I don't see that guy as super gifted person.
@Chuck Buskee I never said he was bad. To my eyes he kinda of average.
Dude is totally average in the ring
@Chuck Buskee dude took one look at shinya hashimoto and said "he's a fat jobber, screw him" 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀😭💀
@Chuck Buskee I've watched a good amount of old school AJPW and he's doing a kinda poor imitation of it
I'm glad i found this channel - been nice reliving the ol TNA days - but wow - toward the end of this - seeing how far IMPACT! fell from grace - to using TV's? as their huge display? and a ring that was basically being dismantled? just... wow - they have been on life support for so long now it seems - certainly not how I thought TNA Impact! would go :(
Didn’t remember Eddie Kingston was in DCC, was definitely watching Impact at this time and forgot about this by now
Had no idea until now that Bram is Thom Latimer on NWA lol 😆
The vest wearing Eddie Kingston reminded me a 1998 D'lo Brown, the vest, the haircut and almost the same physique
D Brown was agile for his size.. Jim Cornette gave him the push in Smokey Mountain Wrestling...which eventually landed him on the Main Stage! Good reference comparison via the vest!
@@daveschannel747 remind me, why WWE and TNA gave up on him? Is it because of the Droz Incident?
hope he reacts to A WILD SLAPNUTS APPEARED in AEW
Eddie Kingston failed himself by looking like a fan who ran into the ring instead of an actual athlete
This run is the greatest example of the saying "a great talent can't overcome bad booking". He is a great hardcore wrestler, a solid worker in general and one of the best promos ever, and we saw little to none of his strong points until his run with LAX and the OGs.
Did you just call him one of the best promos ever? He's not even the best in his promotion
Do you want me to show you the video of his pathetic chops in AEW. It's way too funny🤣
Lets not overrate him now, hes pretty average
@@thebigcheese4453 Even some of the best wrestlers in the world insist on using moves they can't do convincingly sometimes (Stone Cold's mudhole stomps if you look at his feet, Cena's STF, The Rock's Sharpshooter, CM Punk's diving elbow...)
Not to say Eddie is one of the best in the world in the ring (he is serviceable without a stipulation), but the most important thing in wrestling is personality, and Eddie has that in spades.
Edit: I think those chops look bad no matter who does then, including Kobashi.
I used to be a big Eddie Kingston fan, I still am. He has always been great, until he gets in the ring for an actual match. It is even worse nowadays. He can barely run the ropes without blowing himself up in under 30 seconds. His multi man matches are decently entertaining, and you can kind of hide his poor conditioning with those matches. His best attribute is his promos/mic work. And he could probably be a top 5 all time manager if he went that route earlier.
I had no idea Kingston was in TNA.
I liked how he looks sickly.
Thanks Hawk!
Jeff Hardy's finish in TNA was called the twist of hate
I felt like Eddie Kingston was supposed to be the leader of this group
In AEW (the only place I have seen him personally), he is great at promos and brawling, strong style matches.
He was one of those crazy extreme dudes at CZW too, just saw him there and AEW but the man is crazy good on the mic and solid strong style wrestmer
He was fantastic in Chikara as well
Were the dcc suppose to be TNAs version of the shield? Looked more like retribution
Kingston sucks. That's why you don't even see him in Aew anymore except for dark
You clearly are one clueless mark.
@@christophermarriott1681 feelings hurt much
I don't know if this has been brought up before about the DCC but the group's original plans changed when Billy Corgan had left TNA according to James Storm in a July 2017 interview. James Storm was going to win the world championship at Slammiversary 2017 from Bobby Lashley. The group was going to have a 4th member and I swear I am not making this up but Storm was going to have Slapnutz appear as the final member!
Do a Ring of the Hawk of Eric Rowan (Bird Cage Spider Gimmick)
Eddie Kingston with some of the worst ring gear since Jeff Jarrett in the 90s and 00s.
Hey Hawk, props on pronouncing my last name correctly. Not many people do, let alone birds. Oh, and I'm glad you enjoyed Eddie's matches. I knew they'd meet your low standards. Keep up the good work as your the last credible person talking about wrestling.
He had some good matches in Chikara. Really wierd though when you consider how silly s lot of the gimmicks were there and how serious he can be.
Your right about the gimmicks... Silly, but also really good storytelling.. and the Wrestling was really good! I'm gonna go watch me some Chikara "Mike Quakenbush" style wrestling on this warm, northeast Sunday morning
@@daveschannel747 Chikara's storytelling was another level.... What other promotion can say they pulled off some of the stuff they did? Still miss it.
Or: How TNA Failed Eddie Kingston
Yes I prefer that
@@Markyd123 well atlease impact wrestling Utilize hin unlike aew
@@Keepinspirin stop the 🧢
@@Keepinspirin Kingston gets used a lot hes just been getting in trouble a lot lately
Pretty sure hes about to start a new storyline tho theyve been hinting at it for a couple weeks
that is true tna failed Eddie Kingston
TNA had 2 versions of the Twist of Fate. They had the Twist of Fate (the normal one we all know) and the Twist of Hate (the stunner)
Was this recorded before or after A Wild SLAPNUTS showed up in AEW
Never thought Eddie Kingston was good at all. Even now he’s just not good. Good talker but that’s about it.
I know it's slightly outside the way the way this shoe is run, but I really hoped Marky would react to the time during the OGz/LAX fued, TNA had Kingston kayfabe run over a kid with his car.
this is incredibly out of left field, but watching public access cable growing up we saw the show Big Brother on like every summer. Jessie Godderz was on that show before he ever set foot in a ring. crazy small world. I think he wrestles in OVW currently
I am once again requesting Ezekiel, Elias’ younger brother, for an episode on Ring of the Hawk.
Gotta respect The Idiot Abyss as the stalwart of TNA, every time you watch Ring oF The Hawk about TNA you watch, you got Abyss
Great video
11:15 Feetgerpoke of Doom 😆/ Wind Blast Kick.
If Eddie Kingston got a clue and hit the gym and stopped larping as a 90s AJPW wrestler then he'd actually be a star
Facts on Facts 💯💪
Dude is a star in AEW, dumb mark.
@@christophermarriott1681 That's like bragging you are the smartest person on the retarded bus lol Ain't really nothing to brag about.
@@christophermarriott1681 hardly a star he's a midcarder
@@christophermarriott1681 he's a mid carder who cuts good promos
I agree that he basically was made to be a jobber forever.... and once they actually let him do something? The guy had a few decent promos and 1 gnarly hardcore performance. Sucks that was his last match there after he finally showed promise. Kingson is, well, it was said best in AEW by Jericho. He's the 2nd best Kingston and the 3rd best Eddie, meaning he's the worst of both of his names lmao. Speaks volumes.
I do love his Hardcore spots
You know I thought Kingston looked familiar when I saw him in AEW. I called him “the 3rd guy in Storm’s mask club”
That Super-kick @ 11:16 wasn’t even close.
Please do Okada's TNA Run.
There's only 1 or 2 matches on the main show pointless to be honest
Yeah Eddie didn’t exactly have a good time in TNA, but at least he's doing better in other companies like AEW and New Japan
Im amazed at how many people in this comment section did not know Kingston was in TNA. Thats exactly where I known him from. Every time I hear his name I keep thinking hes still in TNA 😂😂😂😂
There's where I found him from. I really enjoyed the LAX run
Same, it’s because I’ve watched Impact way before aew obviously & never stopped. Although I watch impacts a little less now.
I like Eddie, he's one of the best parts of AEW. Even considering The Sparkler Incident.
He's one of the biggest fake tough guys ever. I think a pretty boy like Sammy G can beat him in a shoot and that's saying a lot.
His promos are so raw and real, I fucking love his fued with CM Cunt, he pretty much predicted that Cunt would flame out and disappear again. Kingston and Jericho had an AWESOME old school All Japan style fight at Revolution 2022. His matches are great when he's booked decently and allowed to wrestle his style. His main event PPV against Moxley was brutal but hampered by pandemic no crowds.
@@TheFailedmessiah that's nice of you to say Sammy is pretty, kind of a sloppy dweeb though. He is good looking though
@@TheFailedmessiah Stone Cold was the fakest tough guy ever. Eddie Kingston actually comes from the streets. You clearly don't know anything.
@@jansmitowiczauthor78 I’m not knocking his promo abilities, but the guy is an actor. A good one. He’s not a real tough guy. Gonna fat shame me bro? Like dude. Lol. As the Hawk said, he has the physique of someone who has just given up on life,
Honestly, late TNA or "IMPACT" was so bad that him just getting TV time and being in a faction put him ahead of 90% of the roster.
Jeff wasn't botching. He has two version of the Twist of Fate. He had back problems, he had to alter the move, so he wouldn't take the bump. That's why he stopped using the Swanton, for a bit.
I loved the concrete jungle match and LAX 2 in tna, they were so much better than in aew but Kingston is a very rare case where AEW has used someone better than Impact did
I didn't realize Jessie from big brother was a wreslter till just now
That match with godderz seemed fine
1:26 Don't worry everyone else did too...even Kingston and James Storm
I was thinking Venom singer/bassist Kronos.🤘