I purchased the same lathe last winter, took until April to receive it. I got all the equipment you mentioned plus the taper attachment, ER 40 collet chuck, a bunch of toolholders for the qc tool post, and indexable carbide tool set. I have since built a spider, 5c collet spindle sleeve and drawbar, wooden blocks for the 3+4 jaw chucks. I used a 4' length of unistrut bolted to the top of the backsplash and aluminum angle to use for holding the tool holders. I built a spindle stop with a 1/2" rod and bushing that fits the spindle ID and an expandable aluminum sleeve for the outboard end of the spindle . I have a few complaints about the machine. #1 no way wipers on the tailstock, I contacted PM to ask if the wipers on the carriage could be used and got a short response to just attach some rubber. #2 changing the belt from high to low has interference with the 120/127 thread gear and a little longer belt would be nice. #3 I seem to have trouble engaging the half nut precisely when threading. #4 No tailstock way wipers (that's a really big issue for me and PM ought to be able to address it . I also bought a PM 833T, seems like a decent machine. The Z axis feed, both the quill and the headstock, really suck though. My next big project is to buy 3 80% lowers to machine. Is there a book you could recommend to guide me on the processes?
I wanted a V13 as well, but ended up getting the 1236T since I wasn’t getting any younger waiting to find one. These are great lathes, but occasionally I wish I spent a but more, and waited for them to arrive, and got the 1340GT
I have the exact same lathe… from Eisen in 2011 … it has been a golden machine… You will love it. Highly recommend that machine…. Turned a lot of rifle barrels on it..
Nice setup. I've had my PM1340GT for just over 10 years now and I really enjoy it. I purchased the lathe along with a PM935TV knee mill at the same time back in 2014. Budget was stretched so I only purchased a DRO for the mill at the time. However, I just recently purchased the MagXact-100 and installed it and so far really like having a DRO on the lathe as well as the milling machine. Mike
Sorry Gavin, Sometimes posting gives me problems. Great video on a good machine! I'm a semi retired machinist, toolmaker with 50 yrs experience and bought the tools and tooling as my retirement gift to me.
@@Ultimatereloader Your content is always helpful Gavin, especially with an investment type purchase like this that you can't lay hands on before buying. Thanks for the work you put into the channel.
Awesome video. Am looking forward to more videos with you using this machine. Got a PM 13X40GT a few months ago. Am a FClass shooter and am chambering my own barrels now. Have enjoyed learning to use the machine and chambering barrels plus making other useful parts, ie plumbing pieces and parts to fix tractor. Have PM 940V on order as well. Keep up the good work!!!
I've run both the Hardinge and a Southbend Heavy 10 in gunsmithing school. The Hardinge head stock is to long to do short barrel. They run extremely smooth and are a great machine for everything else (toolroom model). The Southbends are pretty much worn out and nobody wants to work on them any longer, parts? I'll keep trucking with my 1340 GT.@@joshuagibson2520
Great video. Another set up operation that viewers might find helpful is on how to level a lathe which is often a neglected or misunderstood process. Have you considered fitting the tail stock with a collet holder? This can help reduce the errors imparted when using a drill chuck. Again great video with very important information when setting up a new lathe.
That’s great, I ordered it , I don’t know 3 months ago, single F , I got in addition to what you have is the coolant system, and 5-C collet chuck, home shop, upgraded from my 10 year old China 10x22 . I’m excited supposed to get it in a week, I’ve been looking for any information on the 13x40 GT . Perfect timing
Having a smaller lathe for barrel work is great. I have a new production heavy 10 and it’s made me a ton of money. Lots of short barrels in our buisness and the smaller machine is ideal. I’d buy that machine but I wouldn’t keep that base. Gotta have room for those chips. I’ll build a base if I pick one of those up.
I've considered getting a better lathe. This definitely sold me. Could you please do a segment just for tooling used commonly for gunsmith with? Kind of an all in one segment.
I recently put this machine in my basement. I just finished the floor with epoxy and I am anxious to wire it up, so I will be following this. This is a fine model shop, all purpose lathe. Putting any bigger of a lathe down stairs into the basement seemed impractical.
@@mazdaRX7fdrdgen I bolted 2x8s to the bottom of the machine. put a 4x4 across the man door to the garage and a 2x4 across the top of the basement door. used a come along and rope fall to EASE it down stairs. A little hairy but it worked. The contractor who built my house wondered why I wanted a straight shot to the basement LOL.
Ever consider doing a manual mil video and doing videos on optics cuts for hand guns, notching a bolt for m16/sako extractors, light stock work like opening barrel channels, trimming bedding, ect? Like what would be a good home sized mill to achieve things like that while not entering the commercial domain with a 2500 pound 15k knee mill
I own the ubiquitous mini lathe. It works. I'm not doing gun stuff. Just random stuff car mods and robot parts. I just made some motor to wheel hub adapters. It works well enough, There's mods to make it better. but I haven't really needed to do those mods. I also bought the cheap mill, slightly bigger than the cheapest one. I did use that for 80% build. I didn't like the end result. too loose and rattley. I'm just a hobbyist and not looking to perfect my trade so I don't think it's worth building my own but just buying what I want in regards to guns.
Gavin, for someone starting a gunsmith shop, general gunsmithing with aim to eventually build custom precision rifles at business level, which lathe would you recommend, this one or the 1440 HVT? Does the additional features of the 1440 HVT, justify the additional cost? I want to buy once, cry once. Not get by then upgrade later. What is your thoughts?
I kind of wish you would get one of the smaller PM machines and try to do some builds with one of those. PM1030 or PM1130V would be awesome. I ain't got the cheddar or the space for a PM-1340
The main thing is twist in the ways. So yes technically flat and square is enough. But you get that by proxy through leveling. It's incredible but the uneven pressure that makes a lathe not level will put enough twist in the ways to make it cut a taper of several thousandths of an inch over a reasonable distance.
Ultra Precision == not cheap. Some hobbyists are pretty serious, and this is a great lathe for them. If you don't have budget for an Ultra Precision Taiwanese lathe, there are other options.
Budget is the grizzly 4003g it’s like 2 grand cheaper and comes with a spider, precision Mathew’s isn’t all that it’s made out to be. Plus it comes with a decent chuck
Get a g0750g lathe and as honest of s comparison as you can. I understand you're a PM pusher, but the grizzly with Japanese bearings is supposed to be just as good and the PM.
I purchased the same lathe last winter, took until April to receive it. I got all the equipment you mentioned plus the taper attachment, ER 40 collet chuck, a bunch of toolholders for the qc tool post, and indexable carbide tool set. I have since built a spider, 5c collet spindle sleeve and drawbar, wooden blocks for the 3+4 jaw chucks. I used a 4' length of unistrut bolted to the top of the backsplash and aluminum angle to use for holding the tool holders. I built a spindle stop with a 1/2" rod and bushing that fits the spindle ID and an expandable aluminum sleeve for the outboard end of the spindle
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I have a few complaints about the machine. #1 no way wipers on the tailstock, I contacted PM to ask if the wipers on the carriage could be used and got a short response to just attach some rubber. #2 changing the belt from high to low has interference with the 120/127 thread gear and a little longer belt would be nice. #3 I seem to have trouble engaging the half nut precisely when threading. #4 No tailstock way wipers (that's a really big issue for me and PM ought to be able to address it
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I also bought a PM 833T, seems like a decent machine. The Z axis feed, both the quill and the headstock, really suck though.
My next big project is to buy 3 80% lowers to machine. Is there a book you could recommend to guide me on the processes?
Good info Kurt - Thanks
To call these lathes High Precision is a joke. They simply are not that class of lathe. They are high end hobby lathes.
I've been eyeballing PM lathes for my venture into home smithing, these videos are much appreciated! Thanks Gavin.
Glad this was helpful, thank you for watching!
Just make sure you go with the Taiwanese versions if possible.
This was THE lathe that I was going to get until an EMCO V13 came up for sale near me for a great deal. the 1340GT is a great machine.
I wanted a V13 as well, but ended up getting the 1236T since I wasn’t getting any younger waiting to find one. These are great lathes, but occasionally I wish I spent a but more, and waited for them to arrive, and got the 1340GT
I have the exact same lathe… from Eisen in 2011 … it has been a golden machine… You will love it. Highly recommend that machine…. Turned a lot of rifle barrels on it..
Nice setup. I've had my PM1340GT for just over 10 years now and I really enjoy it. I purchased the lathe along with a PM935TV knee mill at the same time back in 2014. Budget was stretched so I only purchased a DRO for the mill at the time. However, I just recently purchased the MagXact-100 and installed it and so far really like having a DRO on the lathe as well as the milling machine.
Mike
It sounds like you've put together a great shop with the PM-1340GT and the PM935TV knee mill!
@Ultimatereloader thank you. Yes I'm pretty proud of my home shop. The Precision Mathews machines have been a nice addition.
Mike
Sorry Gavin,
Sometimes posting gives me problems.
Great video on a good machine!
I'm a semi retired machinist, toolmaker with 50 yrs experience and bought the tools and tooling as my retirement gift to me.
Looking good. That’s what I’d get based on my needs.
We should get you some time on this lathe! :)
@@Ultimatereloaderheck yeah!!
Now that's an awesome invite!
Planning to purchase this lathe in the spring. This video is excellent.
Good choice, glad this was helpful!
@@Ultimatereloader Your content is always helpful Gavin, especially with an investment type purchase like this that you can't lay hands on before buying. Thanks for the work you put into the channel.
Awesome video. Am looking forward to more videos with you using this machine. Got a PM 13X40GT a few months ago. Am a FClass shooter and am chambering my own barrels now. Have enjoyed learning to use the machine and chambering barrels plus making other useful parts, ie plumbing pieces and parts to fix tractor. Have PM 940V on order as well. Keep up the good work!!!
Awesome- what a great capability for an F-Class shooter!
budget is an extremely subjective description but 7-8k for a precision machine like this isnt bad at all
I would rather have an old Hardinge or South Bend.
@@joshuagibson2520 cool story bro
I've run both the Hardinge and a Southbend Heavy 10 in gunsmithing school. The Hardinge head stock is to long to do short barrel. They run extremely smooth and are a great machine for everything else (toolroom model). The Southbends are pretty much worn out and nobody wants to work on them any longer, parts? I'll keep trucking with my 1340 GT.@@joshuagibson2520
@@joshuagibson2520 Thanks for letting us know that.
Great video. Another set up operation that viewers might find helpful is on how to level a lathe which is often a neglected or misunderstood process. Have you considered fitting the tail stock with a collet holder? This can help reduce the errors imparted when using a drill chuck.
Again great video with very important information when setting up a new lathe.
That's the same lathe my gunsmith has, he just placed 5th in the PRS 2024 season! (Ryan Beck). That thing definitely can spin great barrels!
Awesome! It’s a great machine!
Good stuff. Thanks!
That’s great, I ordered it , I don’t know 3 months ago, single F , I got in addition to what you have is the coolant system, and 5-C collet chuck, home shop, upgraded from my 10 year old China 10x22 . I’m excited supposed to get it in a week, I’ve been looking for any information on the 13x40 GT . Perfect timing
Awesome! You will love that new lathe.
Are you planning on setting up a fluid pressure system for chambering? Thanks for the great videos!
Having a smaller lathe for barrel work is great. I have a new production heavy 10 and it’s made me a ton of money. Lots of short barrels in our buisness and the smaller machine is ideal.
I’d buy that machine but I wouldn’t keep that base. Gotta have room for those chips. I’ll build a base if I pick one of those up.
This would be an awesome use of student loans if I didn’t have to go to class lol
Good show
I've considered getting a better lathe. This definitely sold me.
Could you please do a segment just for tooling used commonly for gunsmith with? Kind of an all in one segment.
Thank you! If you are wondering what tooling is needed specifically to chamber rifles, I have that video here: ua-cam.com/video/4ezZAyHG3xI/v-deo.html
I recently put this machine in my basement. I just finished the floor with epoxy and I am anxious to wire it up, so I will be following this. This is a fine model shop, all purpose lathe. Putting any bigger of a lathe down stairs into the basement seemed impractical.
Nice! A great choice! Keep us posted!
How did you get it into basement? Same dilemma here. 1340 vs 1440 but need to get it down somehow
@@mazdaRX7fdrdgen I bolted 2x8s to the bottom of the machine. put a 4x4 across the man door to the garage and a 2x4 across the top of the basement door. used a come along and rope fall to EASE it down stairs. A little hairy but it worked. The contractor who built my house wondered why I wanted a straight shot to the basement LOL.
Are you going to have a video on the fab of your spider
Ever consider doing a manual mil video and doing videos on optics cuts for hand guns, notching a bolt for m16/sako extractors, light stock work like opening barrel channels, trimming bedding, ect?
Like what would be a good home sized mill to achieve things like that while not entering the commercial domain with a 2500 pound 15k knee mill
Go to Precision Mathews website and check out their mills.
Can you go over full length bed setup. Making sure there is no taper in a longcut> Thanks
is buying one worth it compared to making a lathe /mill i want both
are you able to put a brake on this?
I own the ubiquitous mini lathe. It works. I'm not doing gun stuff. Just random stuff car mods and robot parts. I just made some motor to wheel hub adapters.
It works well enough, There's mods to make it better. but I haven't really needed to do those mods.
I also bought the cheap mill, slightly bigger than the cheapest one. I did use that for 80% build. I didn't like the end result. too loose and rattley. I'm just a hobbyist and not looking to perfect my trade so I don't think it's worth building my own but just buying what I want in regards to guns.
I'd like to see the PM-1130V
Gavin, for someone starting a gunsmith shop, general gunsmithing with aim to eventually build custom precision rifles at business level, which lathe would you recommend, this one or the 1440 HVT? Does the additional features of the 1440 HVT, justify the additional cost?
I want to buy once, cry once. Not get by then upgrade later. What is your thoughts?
The PM-1440HVT2 would be worth the investment for sure!
@Ultimatereloader thank you sir!
brake parts cleaner will work much better for cleaning off that coating. the same coating comes on new brake drums and rotors.
What do some you you do for a living? Holy crap 😂 I need to change careers. Keep killing it.
I kind of wish you would get one of the smaller PM machines and try to do some builds with one of those. PM1030 or PM1130V would be awesome. I ain't got the cheddar or the space for a PM-1340
We may have smaller lathe content in 2025, something we're looking at!
@Ultimatereloader if you don't want to keep it afterwards ..... Hit me up 🤣
Hi Javin
Do you have a discount you can offer, from PM?
Unfortunately no!
Sticking with my little Austrian quality machine 😉
not a machinist, what are the applications where it being level is important. Why isnt flat or square enough?
The main thing is twist in the ways. So yes technically flat and square is enough. But you get that by proxy through leveling. It's incredible but the uneven pressure that makes a lathe not level will put enough twist in the ways to make it cut a taper of several thousandths of an inch over a reasonable distance.
show us how to make baffles mr gavin you got the license to do so.
C’mon, man. Let’s get a barrel spun up on that bad boy.
It’s coming in part II :)
Judging by pricing,this isn't aimed at the hobby market
Ultra Precision == not cheap. Some hobbyists are pretty serious, and this is a great lathe for them. If you don't have budget for an Ultra Precision Taiwanese lathe, there are other options.
Why do people still waste money on rotary phase converters when VFD are superior in every way?
They are non-trivial to wire up in a lathe!!! See images.app.goo.gl/aFJnXRKiYb4E8UqNA
You got some cash somewhere. LOL
I'll stick with my long South Bend 10k.
Looks like a nice machine though.
Budget is the grizzly 4003g it’s like 2 grand cheaper and comes with a spider, precision Mathew’s isn’t all that it’s made out to be. Plus it comes with a decent chuck
You can’t really compare a Chinese lathe (Grizzly) with this Taiwanese lathe, big difference in quality!
Get a g0750g lathe and as honest of s comparison as you can. I understand you're a PM pusher, but the grizzly with Japanese bearings is supposed to be just as good and the PM.
It is good that it is made in Taiwan the Chinese stuff is crap I know I have a Chinese lathe.