We all know what a talented machinist you are and have learned so much. You know what's cool? showing the error of the year. Instead of some edit retake. Very cool Mr. π, not comfortable calling you Joseph.
Thanks Joe - I'm saving the links to all of these tricks as E-mails so I can be reminded when needed. Your threading trick has saved me a lot of anxiety threading barrels- I'm forever in your debt, thanks again.
It is only in the last few years I knew anything about these quick change tool holders ever existed. I was out of the trade and retired first knowing any thing about them. Needing one on a 12 ft chuck boring mill is pretty slim eh, LOL. I have always thought and admired your setups. They are simple and strong. No bells and whistles. Without a solid setup there is no way to be confident of us hitting the numbers. You know the ones on the print. The joy of being dead on can't be any more of a feel good thing that they make. Oh yea, That is at 72 F lol. LOL, It's always nice to have the teacher/owner make the bo bo. Proves your humanity eh, chuckle, Like have always said the difference between a pro and a newbie is the pros can usually fix their mistakes, LOL. This is one of your many ways to make our machines beter than the day it came home to help you out old friend. All the best to you and yours my friend. Thanks !
Great idea Joe - much appreciated. You remind me of a couple tool makers this old engineer used to work with. We could always laugh at each others goof ups. We all do it. Keep the ideas coming.
I use the small to tiny solid carbide boring tools frequently so I took a piece of 5/8 drill rod, milled a flat top and bottom, leaving a small registration nib on each end for repeatable length, then drilled and taped hole for a retention screw for the bars. Not to waste one end I drilled and reamed one end for each of the standard size shanks I use. Thanks to this video I’ve got a plan for a shim that will eliminate the need to un-loosen and re-adjust the height between the two sizes. As always you teach me something every video, I’ve got to put some handles on my tool holders, arthritis does not get better with age.
I just thought I'd mention that I worked at a tube mill in the 90's, mostly running these trimming machines that were like reverse lathes to trim & bevel the ends of steel tube from 6 to 16" OD. Those chips were so hot that everybody taped their gloves & boots to their overalls & grew beards because when they hit your bare face, they tended to stick & burn for a bit. If you wanted your boots to last more than a month, you used needle-nose pliers on break, to pull the chips out that had melted into the souls. A pair of army surplus Jungle Boots I had, became my best friend because the souls were so hard & durable, they saved my having to buy what would have been about 6 pairs of boots.
fork out on leather SOLES made by a cobbler? had them for brazing. click click of hobnails, and i prefer the smell of charring cowhide to melting plastic/rubber. like welding... leather bootlaces.
some 24 years ago I discovered that the then common mouse ball is in fact soft steel under that rubber covering and can be easily machined into a knob. The rubber covering can be removed with a wire wheel in the drill press. Yes, I have a jar of mouse balls which I collected as old mice at work got replaced with opticals.
Thank You Joe... Always FUN... I worked in the same small machine shop for 49+ years. I must have worked for around 100 different folks off and on. My way of quickly assessing a brand new person was to very slowly and polity show them a coiled up bandsaw blade. I would throw it into a safe corner of the shop and allow it to spring open. Walk over, with gloves, safety glasses on pick it up. Slowly coil it up while they were carefully watching. I would do again if they wanted. Then have them repeat it. Watching how a fellow watched me demo, talked, didn't talk, moved and coiled up that springy blade or delt with a simple frustration tells a great deal about how a person thinks and solves simple problems.
Simple puzzles or challenges is a great way to assess who your candidate is. I personally love a good challenge and have a huge puzzle collection to prove it.
Tool holder knobs: Might have missed this if you or someone else mentioned it, but my Asian knockoff BXA tool holders have an M10x1.0 thread… a nice fit for easy-to-find lamp finials. So far they work on Shars and Colton.
@Joe Pie I have the same tool holder but can't find the proper inserts. Can you reply with the inserts you use for that NSL-123B holder at the beginning
Happy days Joe, great job as always, love these tips, tricks and projects, thanks for sharing buddy, best wishes to you and yours from merry ol England
Joe, this question isn't related to this "full of great ideas" video, but here goes anyway: would you consider making a video explaining the different grades of HSS, which is best for cutting what metals, etc. I doubt my old (at least 113 years old now) South Bend lathe is rigid enough to really use insert tooling, so I need to figure out what types of HSS I need to buy. Thumbs up!
This is an easy one. Any HSS that contains Cobalt is the way to go. Super tough tools. And...I've always preferred HSS tools for materials like brass , aluminum and plastics. the materials just seem to flow better and leave a nicer finish. true cold rolled is never going to cooperate unless it the 1218. I'd also never think a lot of pieces in stainless with a HSS tool would be a good idea. Carbide for sure.
I literally ran into this issue last night at work. I was making some aluminum spacer bushings for a flapper prox. I have already made the centerline reference bar. When I switched to the parting tool I ran out of travel on the height adjustment.
One other option for raising the height of the threading tool. Cut down the bottom of the tool holder by the required amount plus a little bit more. Place a spacer under the toolholder when clamping into dovetail holder. Adjust as required. Another option would be to put a spacer under the tool post irself. One thing l found helpful with using insert tooling in smaller tool posts. The A or B series was to take an insert holder. Lets say a CN 43x with a 1” or bigger shank. Machine the shank as needed to fit the dovetail of the tool post. Then drill and tap for the adjustment screw. If you look at a Dorian or Aloris catalog you will see such items listed. Every interface you can eliminate in a toolholding setup is a benefit.
I know what I'm doing next time in the shop. already do the double sided chamfer tool, but have a knock-off aloris 'B' tool post, so I'll be making up the rest.
I enjoy these video, the only problem is in my workshop I do not have a mill. Unaffordable for me. I do hobby lathe work. I would like to make this, but no way without a mill.
Joe, Keith I really feel a bit (like a back seat driver) What in heck are imperial kits?? Either send me a more detailed explanation, or better yet, a picture of this kit. Please send me a reply, thanks.
At no time will my hands leave my arms. Old boy here we go again , feels like April fool's again on perpetual motion , and magnetizing aluminium 😜 lol.
[Edit--it's 1/8"-27, not 1/4"] Um...that "lighting" thread at the home store is 1/4"-27 straight pipe thread, not 3/8"-24. I've heard it said that "303, she's for me--304, she's a wh@re. Great tricks for the toolholder. I already use a couple and will use others now that you've taught them. Thanks.
@@joepie221 Yeah, I misremembered the size--it's actually 1/8"IP -27, not 1/4". Lamp finials and knobs will fit on well enough, though, so it's still a great tip.
One of my early mentors, Mr. George Metz, an old German toolmaker once said, "Joe, a good toolmaker will still make the occasional mistake, but nobody will ever be able to find it". George passed some years back, but I'll always be grateful for the values he instilled in me early on.
Center to center. Why didn’t you use caliper math. Measure the screw then zero the calipers then measure the outside of the screws for the center to center distance
I have to laugh when you cut that back down, This happens when the older you get Just wait until your my age 82 And see how many foolish things one makes that you curse and laugh at !
We all know what a talented machinist you are and have learned so much. You know what's cool? showing the error of the year. Instead of some edit retake. Very cool Mr. π, not comfortable calling you Joseph.
Thanks for the compliment. I could have easily re-shot that, but that wouldn't be true to who I am. I had a good laugh.
2:34 zero the calipers on a single stud first, then get your outside dimension, maths is done for you then. no need to subtract a diameter.
Thanks Joe - I'm saving the links to all of these tricks as E-mails so I can be reminded when needed. Your threading trick has saved me a lot of anxiety threading barrels- I'm forever in your debt, thanks again.
Glad I could help.
Don't know how you do it, I learn something from every video that solves an issue I have run into. Great stuff.
It is only in the last few years I knew anything about these quick change tool holders ever existed. I was out of the trade and retired first knowing any thing about them. Needing one on a 12 ft chuck boring mill is pretty slim eh, LOL. I have always thought and admired your setups. They are simple and strong. No bells and whistles. Without a solid setup there is no way to be confident of us hitting the numbers. You know the ones on the print. The joy of being dead on can't be any more of a feel good thing that they make. Oh yea, That is at 72 F lol.
LOL, It's always nice to have the teacher/owner make the bo bo. Proves your humanity eh, chuckle, Like have always said the difference between a pro and a newbie is the pros can usually fix their mistakes, LOL. This is one of your many ways to make our machines beter than the day it came home to help you out old friend. All the best to you and yours my friend. Thanks !
Great idea Joe - much appreciated. You remind me of a couple tool makers this old engineer used to work with. We could always laugh at each others goof ups. We all do it. Keep the ideas coming.
I use the small to tiny solid carbide boring tools frequently so I took a piece of 5/8 drill rod, milled a flat top and bottom, leaving a small registration nib on each end for repeatable length, then drilled and taped hole for a retention screw for the bars. Not to waste one end I drilled and reamed one end for each of the standard size shanks I use. Thanks to this video I’ve got a plan for a shim that will eliminate the need to un-loosen and re-adjust the height between the two sizes.
As always you teach me something every video, I’ve got to put some handles on my tool holders, arthritis does not get better with age.
Trident Metal Distributors would like to thank you for this video.
I miss the sound of the formula 1 race car engines turning 15,000 to 20,000 RPM running past the shop when you fast forward.
Love this comment…cheers from Florida, Paul
Hi Joe,
They were all fantastic tips and yes I have had a 316 chip go down my shirt. Not pleasant. You and the family stay safe.
I just thought I'd mention that I worked at a tube mill in the 90's, mostly running these trimming machines that were like reverse lathes to trim & bevel the ends of steel tube from 6 to 16" OD.
Those chips were so hot that everybody taped their gloves & boots to their overalls & grew beards because when they hit your bare face, they tended to stick & burn for a bit. If you wanted your boots to last more than a month, you used needle-nose pliers on break, to pull the chips out that had melted into the souls. A pair of army surplus Jungle Boots I had, became my best friend because the souls were so hard & durable, they saved my having to buy what would have been about 6 pairs of boots.
fork out on leather SOLES made by a cobbler?
had them for brazing. click click of hobnails, and i prefer the smell of charring cowhide to melting plastic/rubber.
like welding... leather bootlaces.
Outstanding video Joe! Thank you!
You're welcome!
some 24 years ago I discovered that the then common mouse ball is in fact soft steel under that rubber covering and can be easily machined into a knob. The rubber covering can be removed with a wire wheel in the drill press. Yes, I have a jar of mouse balls which I collected as old mice at work got replaced with opticals.
Thanks Joe. Another excellent tip. Loved the great visual demonstration at the end!
It's reassuring knowing that even you are capable of an error Joe. Makes you just a bit more relatable to the rest of us!
I love your tips
25:38
confusing picture
I assume the contraption should/can be fitted in reverse to avoid screw hitting the wedge?
thank you again 👍
Excellent tutorial Joe - a great tool and a lot of good tips contained within. Cheers!
Thank You Joe... Always FUN... I worked in the same small machine shop for 49+ years. I must have worked for around 100 different folks off and on. My way of quickly assessing a brand new person was to very slowly and polity show them a coiled up bandsaw blade. I would throw it into a safe corner of the shop and allow it to spring open. Walk over, with gloves, safety glasses on pick it up. Slowly coil it up while they were carefully watching. I would do again if they wanted. Then have them repeat it. Watching how a fellow watched me demo, talked, didn't talk, moved and coiled up that springy blade or delt with a simple frustration tells a great deal about how a person thinks and solves simple problems.
Simple puzzles or challenges is a great way to assess who your candidate is. I personally love a good challenge and have a huge puzzle collection to prove it.
A meatball part got to be a smaller meatball. 😆
Thanks for showing it all.
I forgot to complement the finish of the meatball part. Ship it! Awesome!
Tool holder knobs: Might have missed this if you or someone else mentioned it, but my Asian knockoff BXA tool holders have an M10x1.0 thread… a nice fit for easy-to-find lamp finials. So far they work on Shars and Colton.
Rite Joe, Good to see you in the shop again, stay safe n well n keep unloosenin Dude 😁 TFS, GB :)
LOL, it looked like it was sped up 50 times when you cut away the 'wall'
Having way too much fun 😁
Love your videos Joe! I think that the thread used for electrical and lamp components is a 1/8-27 nps (straight not tapered)
Joe, that just proves that you are human and can laugh at yourself. I have done such many times.
Still using those calipers too. I’m always amazed they are still kicking haha.
Lots of helpful information. Thanks for the video keep on keeping on.
Great tips, handy to know. Thanks for showing their uses.
Of course it helps if you have a quick change tool holder - which i don't have on my Chinesium! 😛
Very clever. Nice work sir
@Joe Pie I have the same tool holder but can't find the proper inserts. Can you reply with the inserts you use for that NSL-123B holder at the beginning
Not bad Joe....Not bad!
Quite an interesting piece,Joe.Thank you.Have a good vacation.
Another Joe Pie master class.
Happy days Joe, great job as always, love these tips, tricks and projects, thanks for sharing buddy, best wishes to you and yours from merry ol England
The only people that don’t make mistakes are the ones that don’t do anything
Thanks Joe, more shop gems that benefit everyone.
Cheers for the tips! Also yes chips don't have to be smoking to be hot enough to burn!
Very useful tips, Joe. Happy Thanksgiving.
Joe, this question isn't related to this "full of great ideas" video, but here goes anyway: would you consider making a video explaining the different grades of HSS, which is best for cutting what metals, etc. I doubt my old (at least 113 years old now) South Bend lathe is rigid enough to really use insert tooling, so I need to figure out what types of HSS I need to buy.
Thumbs up!
This is an easy one. Any HSS that contains Cobalt is the way to go. Super tough tools. And...I've always preferred HSS tools for materials like brass , aluminum and plastics. the materials just seem to flow better and leave a nicer finish. true cold rolled is never going to cooperate unless it the 1218. I'd also never think a lot of pieces in stainless with a HSS tool would be a good idea. Carbide for sure.
Very good vide Mr Joe Pie..thanks for your time
Excellent tips thanks for sharing love your channel looking forward for the next project
Thanks!
I'll try that file trick.
Thank You and it's nice to hear the neighborhood engine's back at it.
another great Joe also Happy Thanks giving to you and family
Thank you, Same to you!
I literally ran into this issue last night at work. I was making some aluminum spacer bushings for a flapper prox. I have already made the centerline reference bar. When I switched to the parting tool I ran out of travel on the height adjustment.
❤Wishing you and your family a very happy thanksgiving, Paul ❤
Thanks Paul. Same to you and yours.
Good stuff Joe. Have you tried knurling 303 SS?
Small diameters, yes, but using a cut knurl on stainless is much easier.
Thanks for the video very helpful tips. Thanks!
Thanks for the tips and tricks Joe.
Any time!
Great - as always!
Best regards!
Steuss
Absolutely brilliant
Always better the second time around ! 😂🤣😂 !
Joe, I had phenolic balls on all of my holders. Made it a lot easier to handle them.
Thanks for sharing your experience
un-loosen? do you mean tighten?
Unloosen made my day. Twofer, even! 😂
Thanks!!
You Bet.
@ 10:35: Brilliant! Now why didn’t I think of that?
That is a useful tool. Thankyou (Don't beat yourself up too much on the little miscue. We have all been there)
Hey Joe, I've missed your content lately. How goes the remodel project?
Good! Update video coming soon.
Yep @15:46!!! Stuff happens! I've had my share of those. LOL
Another useful tool, and to see even you! make the occasional mistake makes me feel better with my own efforts! 😊
I didn't make the mistake, my hands did. :)
So, you are human Joe? If I hadn't seen it with my own eyes, I never would have believed it.
I'm sure that Trident Metals appreciates the free advertising.
Well done.🙂🙂
Thanks, Joe!
Cool videos
Maybe I'm just dense but I finally figured out what the 10-32 screw was for! A fine height adjustment!?
That and adjustment beyond the top of the block.
Glad to see I'm not the only one.😮
Hey Joe, you remember that time you milled the lip off of that part you were making for the QCTPs? Man, that was great. Good times... LOL
Mistakes happen. Eyes and fingers are intact. No worries.
One other option for raising the height of the threading tool. Cut down the bottom of the tool holder by the required amount plus a little bit more. Place a spacer under the toolholder when clamping into dovetail holder. Adjust as required.
Another option would be to put a spacer under the tool post irself.
One thing l found helpful with using insert tooling in smaller tool posts. The A or B series was to take an insert holder. Lets say a CN 43x with a 1” or bigger shank. Machine the shank as needed to fit the dovetail of the tool post. Then drill and tap for the adjustment screw. If you look at a Dorian or Aloris catalog you will see such items listed. Every interface you can eliminate in a toolholding setup is a benefit.
Thanks again
I know what I'm doing next time in the shop. already do the double sided chamfer tool, but have a knock-off aloris 'B' tool post, so I'll be making up the rest.
That mistake was gold, It is good to see that it just oroves that you are human...
Thanks. I had to include it.
A master piece as usual Joe, and no I didn't see a f=ck up, your my hero, and don't make mistakes....
I enjoy these video, the only problem is in my workshop I do not have a mill. Unaffordable for me. I do hobby lathe work. I would like to make this, but no way without a mill.
"Unloosen"
That's his thing, saying that. Just to poke people.
Like the intro got a knight rider/Air wolf feel to it
Loved the Air-wolf chopper.
That 1.320 is that feet or miles. Just trying to figure this out. Don't give up on me. 😁
Inches.
Joe, Keith I really feel a bit (like a back seat driver) What in heck are imperial kits?? Either send me a more detailed explanation, or better yet, a picture of this kit. Please send me a reply, thanks.
www.advancedinnovationsllc.com/product-page/clamping-kit
Try using kerosene as as a cutting agent machine aluminum 😊
Just my opinion.
Opinions may vary 😊
WD 40 is ok.
@@norton750cc Kerosene is much cheaper.
Old Stingray says, " Sometimes you just have to sing the blues" 😎
Mistake? No mistake there, just using your head 🙃
At no time will my hands leave my arms. Old boy here we go again , feels like April fool's again on perpetual motion , and magnetizing aluminium 😜 lol.
[Edit--it's 1/8"-27, not 1/4"] Um...that "lighting" thread at the home store is 1/4"-27 straight pipe thread, not 3/8"-24. I've heard it said that "303, she's for me--304, she's a wh@re. Great tricks for the toolholder. I already use a couple and will use others now that you've taught them. Thanks.
1/4 inch is a lot smaller than 3/8 , Joe what say you?
@@davidl.579 1/4" PIPE, not 1/4" screw. [Edit--it's 1/8"-27, not 1/4"]
1/4" pipe is the ID.
@@joepie221 Yeah, I misremembered the size--it's actually 1/8"IP -27, not 1/4". Lamp finials and knobs will fit on well enough, though, so it's still a great tip.
wow you are human
Don't spread that around. Shhh
It is 0230hrs, you owe me some sleep.
As I used to tell my men at work, it’s not the stuff up that counts, but how well we recover that.🇦🇺
One of my early mentors, Mr. George Metz, an old German toolmaker once said, "Joe, a good toolmaker will still make the occasional mistake, but nobody will ever be able to find it". George passed some years back, but I'll always be grateful for the values he instilled in me early on.
I mess up like that all the time lol
Center to center. Why didn’t you use caliper math. Measure the screw then zero the calipers then measure the outside of the screws for the center to center distance
Good to know even the pros make a mistake occasionally.
Enjoyed….as your bozo was in process, I said 😂😂😂😂❤….
I looked right past it Chuck. It took me to the finish pass to realize it. I didn't have the heart not to show it.
Good grief, Joe! What were you thinking?
Maybe form the feature you want first, then remove the rest of the surface.
Not cool, Joseph, not cool! 😂
"UNLOOSEN".....WTF 🤯
Don't worry, it's a meme on this channel
You'll hear it about once per video.😁
It’s an east coast thing. 😂
@@Bobs-Wrigles5555 Lefty Loosey, righty unloosey
@@Bobs-Wrigles5555 heard it twice.
@@duncanwilson9533 You got it😀
I was confused when you milled off the shoulder, then I realized, Joe is human....lol, laughing with you not at you...
OOPS!
I have to laugh when you cut that back down,
This happens when the older you get
Just wait until your my age 82
And see how many foolish things one makes that you curse and laugh at !
W T F
What's That For ?? :)