I play heavy and commando depending on my mood. I see win all over. I see my self carrying more weapons with different stars, and changing them depending on the event or need at the moment. Ex. Medics and radiation rumble. No more dead scavengers. Very glad to see the minigun do so well. I kind of want to go and burn up a few thousand 5mm.
@@jeremyrappa6333 Also a heavy/explosives gunner build, focused on Bloodied, and non-VATS. This is a huge positive for not just my build, but for the overall balance of the game. There was absolutely zero reason that VATS builds should have done exponentially more damage than any other build, in the past, when they already had a built in aimbot as their primary function. They got the best of all worlds, and then some.
now they need to combine Commando and Rifleman into one perk; same with Gunslinger and Guerilla along with unstacking all the pistol perks out outside agility
I like the changes overall but still feel iffy about the Quad changes. Same with Vampire. Were shotguns really so overpowered that they needed one of their few advantages taken away? At least buff them in other ways so that they don't feel just plain worse...
Nerfing vampire shotguns is wild. It’s like they noticed a vampire fixer build only had more Damage AND more range AND more armor penetration AND better stealth AND better accuracy… but we better nerf vampire shotgun healing to the point of being unviable because it’s outperforming the commando builds in one niche category.
Whole update is useless. They did all that work to get players flocking to 76 again, just to fuck the entire game up beyond goofy, and then be like there ya go ya filthy fuckin animals, you know that gun you took 3 months to grind for? Well fuck you! We're nerfing it beyond usability for shits and giggles. It's fine Bethesdas gone undo the railway cremator and vats nerfs, if they want to live. Otherwise their flesh gets peeled off in thin, smooth, slices.
@@estebandelgado2002wild, considering the sub par state of shotguns isn’t it? The least they could do is buff shotguns, and probably buff pistols a bit too so I can use pistols like I did in new Vegas lol
@DaSauceDatsBoss 100%. It's obvious they're favoring commando and auto heavy weapon builds, and totally neglecting shotgun and pistols. You'd think they'd buff shotguns and pistols to get them in a decent place before buffing commando AGAIN
The mini gun has always been underpowered. Good for my non VATS heavy gunner. It's good to change it up when railway rifles can kill Earl in 30 seconds. Everyone is always complaining that the game is too easy.
It will still be easy, we just need more bullets, the game needs some nerfs to stealth and low health builds, but i think that this is a good direction and like the changes, minigun needed some love 🎉
@cowofwar9004 I agree with low health, but stealth usually takes patience and some skill with hitting shots before you're detected. Plus the double damage while not detected has pretty much been a staple feature since Fallout 3.
I think every spin-up weapon is underpowered, even if there is decent DPS to it, just for mere fact that stagger totally ruins youbshooting and in public places, things as fixer and railway just kills anything practically instantly before you even spin thing up, would be enough already much better if you could spin up those without shooting yet (such as how TF2 miniguns work)
I see it as a win as actually aiming by hand is more challenging and most of the time more fun, I see it as a whole new skill to be able to use rather than losing something!!!
If they made it so u can literally only get 1 (2% HP Regen), they would absolutely have to max it out at their cap of 60% HP Regen, per shot, for it to even be half viable.
Still, I’m sad for my double barrel shotgun I had vampires on. Pump actions felt slow for it too. But as a quick heal the double barrel felt nice. Could get a lot of my health back from a quick swap and back if I timed it before death lmao. As compared to simply full auto with a sub gun… which eh. I wanna like shotguns but I swear Bethesda makes it kinda hard lmao 😂 I love shotguns. I don’t love VATs. Nor do I wanna sneak. But I do. Edit: Saw on someone else’s comment that the shotguns may benefit strongly from the headshot change! If it does, I won’t care about the loss of vampires being good on them. Here’s hoping they count as low damage projectiles!
@@trustdad3786 oh dear God. Nuka world and Foundation speaks legends of your inter-dimensional pickaxe demon phasing in and out of their reality a thousand times a day.
@@Momofukudoodoowindu i was farming with 3 accounts. One was for respawning the pickaxes on the private server, 2 of them collecting. I could easily farm around 400 pickaxes an hour this way😂👀
I have like over 1000 hours on FO76 and am close to level 1000 but I haven’t played in almost 2 years so this games going to feel basically brand new when I come back.
Guess whos owning all the LMG, got a bloodied faster firerate. Anti armor explosive, a two shot expolsive and an bloodied explosive .50cal... they rip. one hitting super mutants on lvl 100 and killing a deathclaw withing about 6-10shots... altough it may be so much damage the game cannot register and undoes the damage of some shots...
Was going to say rip shotguns, but i think now my double barrel shotgun is going to do much more dmg in vats(bcs all Pellets hit the head). Since the doublebarrel doesnt have any option for anti armor apart from the legendary effect, the head dmg bypass sounds good. I think im going to build a full hp vats shotgunner. When the new cards cone out ofc.
@@DaSauceDatsBoss so if my shotty has 300 dmg onthe Display. This is Split between for lets say 8 Pellets per shots. Its 37,5 dmg per Pellet. I would say that counts as low dmg. Ofc Bethesda spaghetti could prove me wrong.
@@kompott_addict I do fear the Bethesda spaghetti. But I am hopeful. Shotguns have been my favorite irl and on games… so I’m hopeful. If we’re lucky, the goat Angy 🐢 might cover some of the finer aspects of this update like how shotguns fare. Trying to find (I think his video) that shows scrip costs of making a weapon 3 star legendary. I think it costs more scrip now
@SegularRpork yeah, we'll have to see if it's gonna be actually possible when this releases... I do know that quad and faster reload are not possible on thirst zapper, but on PTS I was able to put them on it, so who knows, maybe medic can be used as well.
Takeaways: Vampire's effect on the Cremator will no longer multiply with the multi-projectile barrel? VATS critical builds will still do the most damage (same damage they were doing) but non critical builds will be doing better damage because of damage reduction removal, which consequently also makes the endangerol syringer much less useful as well? Also, is Medic's effect now just healing nearby teammates (complete inverse of Vampire's) or does it count you as a friendly target (works like Vampire's but also heals nearby teammates)?
Endangerol will be more useful now because they swapped the flat damage reduction for individual resistances on bosses. From some testing last night endagerol doesn't even work on sbq right now. Was doing the same damage with my lmg before and after hitting it with 4 different syringers
By the sounds of it, medics can no longer heal you at all. You have to manually shoot other people to heal them instead of healing everyone at once on a crit
@@AngryTurtle time To build a medics weapon to strike down my newbie friends. I mean, assist them. Medics flamethrower with fire heal perk, anyone? 🤣 gotta know if it stacks up
For the 2 star perks, you said nothing changed, but when you had the mini gun out, it had +25% damage, and then +25% when aiming. Is that 2 weapon damage bonuses? Or it's just one
I really like the boss reduction damage change. I like to play with commando and heavy gunner but it feels bad when I am using heavy weapons outside of vats and doing way less damage than I will be doing with my critical commando build, I dont know why some people complain a lot about this changes, it seems that they only use commando weapons all the time and especially the railway rifle that is extremely powerful. I also use commando weapons and I have the 3 more powerful railway rifles (Qffr, QE, Q50c) and I like that bethesda will nerf them a little bit so my other weapons like fixers, handmades, plasma rifles, etc, will be viable options for boss killing. I hope bethesda will do more changes to make a wide variety of options to the meta builds and weapons so everyone can have fun with their favorite weapons and contribute slightly the same in boss fighting, especially I will like to see changes to the pistol builds with I believe that they could change the 20% dmg perk cards to perception category so we can use all the amazing agility perk cards and turn pistols into a viable option, perhaps they could also add critical shots outside of vats for the people that also like to aim manually (this actually is a very popular mod in almost all fallout games). They could buff the rifleman builds to do amazing single shot damage so they can compete with automatic weapons in terms of dps (I think automatic should always win but I think that they could be a close competitor). Finally, a lot of changes could me made but my point is to give love to every build and playstile possible so everyone can have fun
Really have to wait for live version. Current problem is bosses dying too fast, but if all this translates to 20 minute boss fights that may end up worse.
Watch tyr's video. They won't die insanely fast like the speed runners do, but at an event full of high levels, the queen will still die in 1-5 minutes
On that mini I think the reason you were getting those numbers is because of the second star, the second is giving you 50 percent damage increase while aiming
So TLDR: VATS crits and aiming for weak spot on non-VATS will be more comparable from a damage point of view. VATs crits on bosses are being softened and non-VATs buffed. But the changes don’t make the VATs crit builds suddenly obsolete. They lose the glitch advantage they had previously. It’s a fair fight now.
its only 5% slower than it was before if you use Ground pounder. In the end you are just needing to swap some points around, before you wouldn't use ground pounder most of the time as your ap needed the reload time to fully refresh. The only people that will notice a difference are the ones that spammed coffee for kills and used ground pounder before.
@@Average1212 almost all my weapons are quad and less ap cost, so no need to recharge while reloading. And I always use ground pounder on 2. So it's way slower for me. New quad g roll is probably with faster reload soon
So a non vats build aiming for headshots (which will be missing out on the VAT CRIT DAMAGE perk) will feel like you do more damage than a vats build auto aiming headshots with the vat crit damage perk?
What do you mean not completely ruined? Used turtles build and it's absolutely worthless. One shot was enough to decimate half a room last time. Now its going to tickle your enemies. Not to death it's just gonna tickle em. Like who TF smoked crack and then was like whatever this man says just DO IT! Doesn't matter if it sounds insane do it anyway this guy's the man. Like TF no someone sat down and smoked a big ass bowl of crack to think this was in any way needed or wanted by anybody in the community
In order to make the 2nd star Explosive balanced, for single shot weapons have it at 15% weapon damage per shot, but stuff like laser rifle/gatling plasma with splitter mods, it needs to be the shotgun explosive of 3% so its more balanced (instead of legacies where it was 15% per)
I still want shotguns, pistols and lasers to get buffed I don't know why they don't get any love. I don't want to scrip my crusader pistols my g roll bloodied crit less ap😊
Hi. Thank you. I think Vampires getting nerfed that way is going to really affect some choices of weapons. Bethesda really shouldn't meddle with this effect.
@@IHasClipsI hope you're right. The other thing I'm wondering is if some of this is in preparation for the ghoul update, it sounds like there's going to be a lot of heavy endurance perks for ghouls, so vampire may not even really be necessary if you're playing a ghoul. Still nerfs vampire for bloodied builds though
@@VanityOfEliCLee thats true cause theres 6 other perks mr turtle didnt talk about , they all have a ghoul vault boy on the picture, so that means your gonna have alot of buffs when your a ghoul , too good to be true , we just have to be patient to find out.
@@VanityOfEliCLee thats true cause theres 6 other perks mr turtle didnt talk about , they all have a ghoul vault boy on the picture, so that means your gonna have alot of buffs when your a ghoul , too good to be true , we just have to be patient to find out.
@@VanityOfEliCLee thats true cause theres 6 other perks mr turtle didnt talk about , they all have a ghoul vault boy on the picture, so that means your gonna have alot of buffs when your a ghoul , too good to be true , we just have to be patient to find out.
I love the changes, the only thing that is not so great is the reloading change - it's ok for weapons with magazines, but it should not apply to weapons like lever rifles or pump shotguns.
Question about the legendary crafting, so should I be saving legendary weapons/ armor for this update instead of scripping it right now? To scrap it to try and learn the effects or whatever?
I'm wondering the same thing. I've started saving scrip with desirable legendary effects for scrapping into legendary mods once the changes go live. But not sure if it's better to use my modules up for crafting now, or save them.
So if vampire only triggers from 1 projectile does that mean explosive 2nd star won't trigger additional healing like it does now? What about ricochet does that still trigger vamp when holding a vamp weapon even without ammo in it?
Question: does the new healer effect work with splash damage? e.g. does the splash damage from the cremator hear yourself when shot at your feet or a close by enemy?
@@turbo_killer347 any capacitor on it that 'adds burning damage' (gamma wave emitter, refined/severe beta wave tuners) does make it work with friendly fire.
@tommyq374 I already use friendly fire with holy fire for that but as it is I still need the perk. With this change I can dedicate special weapon for it and use the 3 perk points to put something else in Charisma. The enclave flamer was just an example.
I'm really interested to see how the change to vampire effect works on flamers and Holy Fire. If the change is per shot, how will this affect them as a flamer and Holy Fire can be one continuous spay of the flame, not individual shots? I'm glad to see that mini guns are now getting some love. They should have always been more deadly and now it looks like they may just be.
removing damage reduction on bosses is a great idea. it makes all weapons equally effective against bosses and the only differentiating factor would be build and style of play as opposed to having the "right" weapon. this along with the repeatable after 100 challenge of attending public events means there's more incentive for experienced players to continue playing and events will be more populated. similarly there will be more and more boss fights with better chances for newer players to participate in them and do damage alongside others. the combination of these effects may be one of the rare examples of Bethesda reworking something toward perfection. excited to see it take shape in the final release.
TBH the updates look spicy. legendary reworks are amazing. legendary crafting is amazing if they fine-tune it correctly. It should be right between "good for casuals to get god-rolls, but still diffecult to obtain" Boss changes are huge! Now my non-vats builds actually stand a chance compared to the others! And vats changes... Long time comming
If you thought God rolls were gonna remain hard to obtain you missed the entire point of freeing legendary crafting like this. It's specifically to devalue real world trades for cash. And its gonna work tremendously. When each player can just pick what rolls they want on it, god rolls are gonna be as common as caps. They'll be everywhere. And there's nothing any of you whiners will do about it but whine and pout.
@@estebandelgado2002 permalearni g is not a good change. No more long term motivation for playing the game when people dont have to grind for anything. Hope permalearning get scrapped or the game is over. People getting what they want in a short amount of time, means no need whatever to go to any events with legendary drops again. Personally i like how it is and hope they scrap the whole shitshow, but its at least not as bad if they remove permalearning. Its a reason why many have played for many years, its because they hope this is the day. Soon everything is in a day and the game is over.
Do you think it will take me 2 min to solo earl or 3 min in the next update? My Holy fire is B5025 and melts him in 57 seconds in the live game! Im genuinly excited to see the chages take effect.
When shotguns lose their ability to stack vampire will that also affect their effectiveness to cripple? If I understand correctly that is also from multiple pellets hitting.
So vampire explosive weapons won't proc twice from the explosive splash damage? Or is it just for how it stacked for specific weapons in specific use cases (shotguns and multi-shot cremator in VATS)? Either way, this looks like an overall reduction to self-healing and thus a reduction in survivability. This also makes me realize that this could affect Vampire laser weapons with the beam splitter mod in VATS. Those are functionally similar to shotguns with that mod. And then there's Quad. Who wants to stand around reloading and loosing dps? The point of quad is to shoot more and reload less, keeping the pressure going. Ammo efficiency. And it will be an absolute nightmare on weapons like the pump action shotgun, lever-action rifle, and revolvers.
They actually weakened the shotgun. Vampires are now almost unusable because the HP restored is too little and the speed is too slow. Now it only restores a fixed 1% of HP per second, and enemies can easily tear you apart. On PTS, the explosion damage of the Gaussian shotgun has been weakened and can only cause 1~3 damage.
With the change to vampire I’m curious if it will affect chainsaw… Will it still heal continuously while using or will I need to keep restarting it to get the heals? Wouldn’t surprise me if it ends up being the latter even if as an accidental bug, damn thing is already bugged and constantly having to restart attacks for hits to register is annoying
Thanks again for doing all this leg work and letting us all know what's to come man 🙏 Also as a vats user, I have to say I am happy to hear about the ADS balancing. I know there are many players out there who do not enjoy or ever use vats (and that's totally okay. Your wasteland, your playstyle). From what I gather, we should all be doing around the same damage to bosses now. Or at least the damage will be a bit closer together and not a 12x in favor of vats.
I like most of these changes, but I do wonder if non-automatic rifles are getting any support, currently commando builds seem to be typically better and while low damage, high fire rate weapons like the minigun being better is a good thing. What about the hunting rifle and black power rifle? I'm really hoping we get the anti-material rifle as a season weapon to fill the void that currently exists in this weapon class. Additionally, single fire pistols probably deserve some attention too.
does this mean we are getting energy weapons like laser rifles, plasma minigun etc to have the explosive effect again like back then with legacy weapons?
i like the idea of the medics weapons but i would like to see some kind of perk card (opposite of friendly fire) that will allow you to heal i love vampire weapons and friendly fire perk so i would like a bit of both worlds at the same time which is why im currently running around with a vampire flaming auto axe.
Thanks for the info, id love to know if the Encryptid event has been fixed or not? Does the Imposter Sheepsquatch still ignore 100% armor when it attacks or whatever?
Did they reverse combat change? I just get to pts and check that handmade in vats hit mutants in head with exactly same damage as live version of the game
I wonder if Anti-Armor is going to be a top 3 or at least a strong competitor for fighting bosses with the Damage Mitigation being removed from bosses. Will Medics work on other player's that aren't on your team but are eventmates too? It could lead to a few player's making everyone immortal. Still I'm so happy to see that even if it's just in the PTS they're allowing us to craft Legendary Gear *_the way we want to have it_* it'll take some time but we won't have to depend on RNG for the "God Rolls" and instead *make them the God Rolls*
Ok i get your saying vats crits will not be good on bosses anymore, but do you still do tons of damage to headshots on normal enemies with normal vats shot and critical vats head shot? Like does it still bypass damage mitigation if you shoot the enemies in head with normal and vats headshots or has that been nerfed as well?
Would be interesting to know if Cold Shoulder got hit with the quad nerf or not. Maybe is has a bit of a different effect? Or will it also get nerfed alongside all quad weapons?
@@AngryTurtle Ah damn 😭 Well while i have you here, I also have just a second quick question for ya. How did your character get yeeted out of existence? Ever since i heard you say that i started getting scared about bethesda not fixing the bug in time and loosing my character when the update goes live 😅
Overall, i love it. Just 2 problems i have. 1, explosive on energy weapons. Legacies were a plague. But the effect doing nothing for now makes me think 1 of 3 things will happen. 1, it won't change. You can put explosive on an energy weapon, it just won't do anything, like when you switch crusader pistol to energy. 2, they'll remove the ability to even put it on them. 3, they'll actually rework it so it works and isn't absolutely busted. With the changes to railway rifles, i don't think they're interested in returning game destroying weapons. And i just don't like the vampire change. It's cool being able to use shotguns to mass heal. But if they go forward with this, i guess I'll just change my pepper shaker from vampire ffr to anti armor explosive ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ hell, with born survivor and healing factor i barely use my pepper shaker to heal anymore anyway. And with the ghoul character it'll probably be even less needed. I hope to see more legendary prefix reworks. Nocturnal, juggernauts, berserkers, all still pretty useless. And the enemy specific effects too.
Well the update is live, and it doesn't seem like this is the case in regards to weakpoint damage. At least, the damage with my automatic rifles on headshots still seems about the same as before the patch.
I played as a comando for a long time and still think that this is a good direction. Tired if being forced into one build. Great direction. Now untie exp gain from INT or give us idiot savant so non bloodied builds can keep up in exp
Hello Turtle, "how long have you been wandering in the wasteland?" Wouldn't you like the game to be a little more difficult?...I don't know...in this game it is not necessary to eat, hydrate, or heal wounds or illnesses...we only do it to improve according to what attributes of our character, but it is not mandatory. this is not real.... They tell me that back in the day, a long time ago, if you didn't eat and drink you could die... is that true? You do very good work... Greetings Bro
Well the only thing I like to make changes, they are all good but the mag cap for some of the guns like the handmade rifle and the assault rifle should have some mag to 30 or so and the drum to be a bit more like say 50 or 60 worth.
What about Explosive on Vampire weapons? Did they change it to where it’s only the projectile that heals, or will the splash damage from the explosion still provide healing?
Explosions and multiple warheads can no longer interact with vampires. If the content of pts is implemented into the official game, it can be concluded that the vampire is dead.
As a heavy gunner i see it as a Win
I play heavy and commando depending on my mood. I see win all over. I see my self carrying more weapons with different stars, and changing them depending on the event or need at the moment. Ex. Medics and radiation rumble. No more dead scavengers. Very glad to see the minigun do so well. I kind of want to go and burn up a few thousand 5mm.
@@jeremyrappa6333 Also a heavy/explosives gunner build, focused on Bloodied, and non-VATS. This is a huge positive for not just my build, but for the overall balance of the game. There was absolutely zero reason that VATS builds should have done exponentially more damage than any other build, in the past, when they already had a built in aimbot as their primary function. They got the best of all worlds, and then some.
now they need to combine Commando and Rifleman into one perk; same with Gunslinger and Guerilla along with unstacking all the pistol perks out outside agility
I would love this
Agreed
Honestly this entire automatic and rifle is such a ridicules design, they should just make the weapons selective fire and be done with it.
I like the changes overall but still feel iffy about the Quad changes. Same with Vampire. Were shotguns really so overpowered that they needed one of their few advantages taken away? At least buff them in other ways so that they don't feel just plain worse...
Nerfing vampire shotguns is wild.
It’s like they noticed a vampire fixer build only had more Damage AND more range AND more armor penetration AND better stealth AND better accuracy… but we better nerf vampire shotgun healing to the point of being unviable because it’s outperforming the commando builds in one niche category.
They did the same thing unfortunately quite some time back with the medic’s effect with shotguns. Was a good combo.
Whole update is useless. They did all that work to get players flocking to 76 again, just to fuck the entire game up beyond goofy, and then be like there ya go ya filthy fuckin animals, you know that gun you took 3 months to grind for? Well fuck you! We're nerfing it beyond usability for shits and giggles. It's fine Bethesdas gone undo the railway cremator and vats nerfs, if they want to live. Otherwise their flesh gets peeled off in thin, smooth, slices.
@@estebandelgado2002wild, considering the sub par state of shotguns isn’t it?
The least they could do is buff shotguns, and probably buff pistols a bit too so I can use pistols like I did in new Vegas lol
@DaSauceDatsBoss 100%. It's obvious they're favoring commando and auto heavy weapon builds, and totally neglecting shotgun and pistols. You'd think they'd buff shotguns and pistols to get them in a decent place before buffing commando AGAIN
Shotguns suck who cares they might as well nerf nocturnals
The mini gun has always been underpowered. Good for my non VATS heavy gunner. It's good to change it up when railway rifles can kill Earl in 30 seconds. Everyone is always complaining that the game is too easy.
I’ve been sitting on an AAE15rl mini for three years. It’s finally time.
It will still be easy, we just need more bullets, the game needs some nerfs to stealth and low health builds, but i think that this is a good direction and like the changes, minigun needed some love 🎉
Foundations vengeance is gonna tear ass…kinda does now but it’s gonna be brutal now lol
@cowofwar9004 I agree with low health, but stealth usually takes patience and some skill with hitting shots before you're detected. Plus the double damage while not detected has pretty much been a staple feature since Fallout 3.
I think every spin-up weapon is underpowered, even if there is decent DPS to it, just for mere fact that stagger totally ruins youbshooting and in public places, things as fixer and railway just kills anything practically instantly before you even spin thing up, would be enough already much better if you could spin up those without shooting yet (such as how TF2 miniguns work)
I wish they'd decrease the spin up speed for the minigun. Hell I'd take it as a third star.
Or just no spin up speed at all because the second they do start to spin, they immediately fire.
I think it'd be better as a mod, maybe Gunsmith 5 makes it fire almost instantly like a real mini gun or something that makes it fire way sooner
Just let the mini gun spin on right click. At least we can stun while it's spinning now.
I see it as a win as actually aiming by hand is more challenging and most of the time more fun, I see it as a whole new skill to be able to use rather than losing something!!!
Had me worried about the vampire change. I'm glad follow upp attacks still stack, it would've been pretty bad if it didn't.
If they made it so u can literally only get 1 (2% HP Regen), they would absolutely have to max it out at their cap of 60% HP Regen, per shot, for it to even be half viable.
Still, I’m sad for my double barrel shotgun I had vampires on. Pump actions felt slow for it too. But as a quick heal the double barrel felt nice. Could get a lot of my health back from a quick swap and back if I timed it before death lmao. As compared to simply full auto with a sub gun… which eh.
I wanna like shotguns but I swear Bethesda makes it kinda hard lmao 😂 I love shotguns. I don’t love VATs. Nor do I wanna sneak. But I do.
Edit: Saw on someone else’s comment that the shotguns may benefit strongly from the headshot change! If it does, I won’t care about the loss of vampires being good on them. Here’s hoping they count as low damage projectiles!
I can't wait to check all the changes out when it does come to live version. I've currently saved 524 modules in anticipation for the update!
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Thanks pickaxes 🙏🏻😮
1000 for me 😆
@@Momofukudoodoowindu 5k here😂👌🏽 my mules are crawling instead of walking
@@trustdad3786 oh dear God. Nuka world and Foundation speaks legends of your inter-dimensional pickaxe demon phasing in and out of their reality a thousand times a day.
@@Momofukudoodoowindu i was farming with 3 accounts. One was for respawning the pickaxes on the private server, 2 of them collecting. I could easily farm around 400 pickaxes an hour this way😂👀
All great news. Now, we just need the endgame enemies to hit harder. Maybe they can increase the max level for mobs to 200.
I have like over 1000 hours on FO76 and am close to level 1000 but I haven’t played in almost 2 years so this games going to feel basically brand new when I come back.
Don't worry, when you get to experience the multiple crashes every day, it'll feel like old days.
@@choppersghost5439 not on pc
The Red Terror LMG is gonna be so good with those weak spot changes
Guess whos owning all the LMG, got a bloodied faster firerate. Anti armor explosive, a two shot expolsive and an bloodied explosive .50cal... they rip. one hitting super mutants on lvl 100 and killing a deathclaw withing about 6-10shots... altough it may be so much damage the game cannot register and undoes the damage of some shots...
Was going to say rip shotguns, but i think now my double barrel shotgun is going to do much more dmg in vats(bcs all Pellets hit the head). Since the doublebarrel doesnt have any option for anti armor apart from the legendary effect, the head dmg bypass sounds good. I think im going to build a full hp vats shotgunner. When the new cards cone out ofc.
My Gauss Shotty... I'm drooling....
I didn’t consider the potential of the buff working for shotguns. I assume they count as low damage per shot? If so, then I won’t be too upset
@@DaSauceDatsBoss so if my shotty has 300 dmg onthe Display. This is Split between for lets say 8 Pellets per shots. Its 37,5 dmg per Pellet. I would say that counts as low dmg. Ofc Bethesda spaghetti could prove me wrong.
@@kompott_addict I do fear the Bethesda spaghetti. But I am hopeful. Shotguns have been my favorite irl and on games… so I’m hopeful. If we’re lucky, the goat Angy 🐢 might cover some of the finer aspects of this update like how shotguns fare.
Trying to find (I think his video) that shows scrip costs of making a weapon 3 star legendary. I think it costs more scrip now
@@DaSauceDatsBoss you probably mean this one ua-cam.com/video/vvFqRamUPN4/v-deo.htmlsi=pciG18-U7IfKja2d
Would like to see how the charging Gatling Laser performs with this weak spot targeting now
R.I.P to all my multi-projectile vampire weapons 😞
Medic's thirst zapper will go crazy
@@alfiearmadillo omg!!!!!! if only you got ex for healing. Maybe some perk cards for a solid medic build.
I believe Medic is one of the effects that cannot go onto Thirst Zapper.
@@1990Alfer noooooooooooo :(
@@1990Alferdo forget they’re removing a lot of restrictions like that
@SegularRpork yeah, we'll have to see if it's gonna be actually possible when this releases... I do know that quad and faster reload are not possible on thirst zapper, but on PTS I was able to put them on it, so who knows, maybe medic can be used as well.
Takeaways: Vampire's effect on the Cremator will no longer multiply with the multi-projectile barrel? VATS critical builds will still do the most damage (same damage they were doing) but non critical builds will be doing better damage because of damage reduction removal, which consequently also makes the endangerol syringer much less useful as well? Also, is Medic's effect now just healing nearby teammates (complete inverse of Vampire's) or does it count you as a friendly target (works like Vampire's but also heals nearby teammates)?
with medics you need to shoot teammates
Endangerol will be more useful now because they swapped the flat damage reduction for individual resistances on bosses. From some testing last night endagerol doesn't even work on sbq right now. Was doing the same damage with my lmg before and after hitting it with 4 different syringers
By the sounds of it, medics can no longer heal you at all. You have to manually shoot other people to heal them instead of healing everyone at once on a crit
@@AngryTurtle time
To build a medics weapon to strike down my newbie friends. I mean, assist them. Medics flamethrower with fire heal perk, anyone? 🤣 gotta know if it stacks up
For the 2 star perks, you said nothing changed, but when you had the mini gun out, it had +25% damage, and then +25% when aiming. Is that 2 weapon damage bonuses? Or it's just one
Yeah i saw that too. Thats why the minigun was doing more dmg!!
I really like the boss reduction damage change.
I like to play with commando and heavy gunner but it feels bad when I am using heavy weapons outside of vats and doing way less damage than I will be doing with my critical commando build, I dont know why some people complain a lot about this changes, it seems that they only use commando weapons all the time and especially the railway rifle that is extremely powerful.
I also use commando weapons and I have the 3 more powerful railway rifles (Qffr, QE, Q50c) and I like that bethesda will nerf them a little bit so my other weapons like fixers, handmades, plasma rifles, etc, will be viable options for boss killing.
I hope bethesda will do more changes to make a wide variety of options to the meta builds and weapons so everyone can have fun with their favorite weapons and contribute slightly the same in boss fighting, especially I will like to see changes to the pistol builds with I believe that they could change the 20% dmg perk cards to perception category so we can use all the amazing agility perk cards and turn pistols into a viable option, perhaps they could also add critical shots outside of vats for the people that also like to aim manually (this actually is a very popular mod in almost all fallout games).
They could buff the rifleman builds to do amazing single shot damage so they can compete with automatic weapons in terms of dps (I think automatic should always win but I think that they could be a close competitor).
Finally, a lot of changes could me made but my point is to give love to every build and playstile possible so everyone can have fun
Really have to wait for live version. Current problem is bosses dying too fast, but if all this translates to 20 minute boss fights that may end up worse.
People forget about that.. and also the cost of a long boss fight too and in return you get rubbish loot
Watch tyr's video. They won't die insanely fast like the speed runners do, but at an event full of high levels, the queen will still die in 1-5 minutes
@@beastabuelos6421 If they still die in a minute then what's the point of any of these changes?
@@almsley to make it so you don't have to use vats to do big damage
On that mini I think the reason you were getting those numbers is because of the second star, the second is giving you 50 percent damage increase while aiming
You know that means aim for the head people your ttk will be quicker.
I like the change to medics, I hope they add similar changes to all less desirable rolls like exterminator or all the X Slayer rolls.
The new combat changes are great, and is also more realistic now
So TLDR: VATS crits and aiming for weak spot on non-VATS will be more comparable from a damage point of view. VATs crits on bosses are being softened and non-VATs buffed. But the changes don’t make the VATs crit builds suddenly obsolete. They lose the glitch advantage they had previously. It’s a fair fight now.
This. And as a low health commando I like it. Maybe now I will try heavies
-30% reload on quad is crazy. I hope that doesn't stay. But it seems most other changes are good for legendaries.
this is also on top of the ever present reload bug...
True. I really hope the -30% reload speed doesn't make it to the live servers. I could trash all the equipment I'm using except my elders mark.
its only 5% slower than it was before if you use Ground pounder. In the end you are just needing to swap some points around, before you wouldn't use ground pounder most of the time as your ap needed the reload time to fully refresh.
The only people that will notice a difference are the ones that spammed coffee for kills and used ground pounder before.
It'll only drop to -5% on anything with +25% ⭐️⭐️😉
@@Average1212 almost all my weapons are quad and less ap cost, so no need to recharge while reloading. And I always use ground pounder on 2. So it's way slower for me. New quad g roll is probably with faster reload soon
I have so many questions about different weapons and poison damage from strangler Armor. Keep testing please and TY.
So a non vats build aiming for headshots (which will be missing out on the VAT CRIT DAMAGE perk) will feel like you do more damage than a vats build auto aiming headshots with the vat crit damage perk?
Pretty much
omg they buff the MINIGUN i LOVE IT
thanks god the cremator is not completely ruined..... i love that gun.. :D
What do you mean not completely ruined? Used turtles build and it's absolutely worthless. One shot was enough to decimate half a room last time. Now its going to tickle your enemies. Not to death it's just gonna tickle em. Like who TF smoked crack and then was like whatever this man says just DO IT! Doesn't matter if it sounds insane do it anyway this guy's the man. Like TF no someone sat down and smoked a big ass bowl of crack to think this was in any way needed or wanted by anybody in the community
@@Blackbird_80 too bad whine about it more I'll make the explosions twice as large as before and 4x as blinding
@@Blackbird_80 get your comment erased
@@Blackbird_80 now how's that for low skill got your entire channel removed
@@Blackbird_80 _"I dont even have a channel"_ - You do, obviously. You just don't have a brain.
5:08 What are you doing step-hound?
Hey Turtle, I notice some slowdowns/fps drops in the video, is this something you experience while playing or just the recording?
In order to make the 2nd star Explosive balanced, for single shot weapons have it at 15% weapon damage per shot, but stuff like laser rifle/gatling plasma with splitter mods, it needs to be the shotgun explosive of 3% so its more balanced (instead of legacies where it was 15% per)
I’m curious how pistols fare with the crit changes given that pistols need crits to do any damage at all.
I still want shotguns, pistols and lasers to get buffed I don't know why they don't get any love. I don't want to scrip my crusader pistols my g roll bloodied crit less ap😊
I think the weak spot changes will be a big buff to those weapon types
Hi. Thank you. I think Vampires getting nerfed that way is going to really affect some choices of weapons. Bethesda really shouldn't meddle with this effect.
Its only getting nerfed because its gonna even out the game with the nerfs of dmg of enemies and how we are doing much more dmg this upcoming update.
@@IHasClipsI hope you're right. The other thing I'm wondering is if some of this is in preparation for the ghoul update, it sounds like there's going to be a lot of heavy endurance perks for ghouls, so vampire may not even really be necessary if you're playing a ghoul. Still nerfs vampire for bloodied builds though
@@VanityOfEliCLee thats true cause theres 6 other perks mr turtle didnt talk about , they all have a ghoul vault boy on the picture, so that means your gonna have alot of buffs when your a ghoul , too good to be true , we just have to be patient to find out.
@@VanityOfEliCLee thats true cause theres 6 other perks mr turtle didnt talk about , they all have a ghoul vault boy on the picture, so that means your gonna have alot of buffs when your a ghoul , too good to be true , we just have to be patient to find out.
@@VanityOfEliCLee thats true cause theres 6 other perks mr turtle didnt talk about , they all have a ghoul vault boy on the picture, so that means your gonna have alot of buffs when your a ghoul , too good to be true , we just have to be patient to find out.
I love the changes, the only thing that is not so great is the reloading change - it's ok for weapons with magazines, but it should not apply to weapons like lever rifles or pump shotguns.
Question about the legendary crafting, so should I be saving legendary weapons/ armor for this update instead of scripping it right now? To scrap it to try and learn the effects or whatever?
I'm wondering the same thing. I've started saving scrip with desirable legendary effects for scrapping into legendary mods once the changes go live. But not sure if it's better to use my modules up for crafting now, or save them.
I know the views for this kind content aren't the best, but I really appreciate these little bits of information. These changes are very much needed.
7:25 I like this keep testing everything until it breaks
So if vampire only triggers from 1 projectile does that mean explosive 2nd star won't trigger additional healing like it does now? What about ricochet does that still trigger vamp when holding a vamp weapon even without ammo in it?
Question: does the new healer effect work with splash damage? e.g. does the splash damage from the cremator hear yourself when shot at your feet or a close by enemy?
lol now you can play as medic, idea, Enclave plasma flamer as medics wand to keep during events
@tommyq374It doesn't because it's plasma not fire
@turbo_killer347 what if it has the true flamer mod🧐🤔
@@turbo_killer347 any capacitor on it that 'adds burning damage' (gamma wave emitter, refined/severe beta wave tuners) does make it work with friendly fire.
@tommyq374 I already use friendly fire with holy fire for that but as it is I still need the perk. With this change I can dedicate special weapon for it and use the 3 perk points to put something else in Charisma. The enclave flamer was just an example.
Let us shoot stimpacks with the syringer!
With the relaxed Legendary rules on PTS, are you able to craft things that are normally unrollable - ie a Quad The Dragon or Two-shot Thirst Zapper?
So. Vampires Auto Axe and Holy Fire should be widely unaffected from the effect change, yes?
I'm really interested to see how the change to vampire effect works on flamers and Holy Fire. If the change is per shot, how will this affect them as a flamer and Holy Fire can be one continuous spay of the flame, not individual shots?
I'm glad to see that mini guns are now getting some love. They should have always been more deadly and now it looks like they may just be.
removing damage reduction on bosses is a great idea. it makes all weapons equally effective against bosses and the only differentiating factor would be build and style of play as opposed to having the "right" weapon. this along with the repeatable after 100 challenge of attending public events means there's more incentive for experienced players to continue playing and events will be more populated. similarly there will be more and more boss fights with better chances for newer players to participate in them and do damage alongside others. the combination of these effects may be one of the rare examples of Bethesda reworking something toward perfection. excited to see it take shape in the final release.
TBH the updates look spicy.
legendary reworks are amazing.
legendary crafting is amazing if they fine-tune it correctly. It should be right between "good for casuals to get god-rolls, but still diffecult to obtain"
Boss changes are huge! Now my non-vats builds actually stand a chance compared to the others!
And vats changes... Long time comming
@@last_dutch_hero258 heb je een klap van de molen gehad of begrijp jij serieus niet wat dit doet met de trade market🤡
@@trustdad3786 It will destroy the trade market. No one will care.
It does look like a good change. I’m on board 👍
If you thought God rolls were gonna remain hard to obtain you missed the entire point of freeing legendary crafting like this. It's specifically to devalue real world trades for cash. And its gonna work tremendously. When each player can just pick what rolls they want on it, god rolls are gonna be as common as caps. They'll be everywhere. And there's nothing any of you whiners will do about it but whine and pout.
@@estebandelgado2002 permalearni g is not a good change. No more long term motivation for playing the game when people dont have to grind for anything. Hope permalearning get scrapped or the game is over. People getting what they want in a short amount of time, means no need whatever to go to any events with legendary drops again. Personally i like how it is and hope they scrap the whole shitshow, but its at least not as bad if they remove permalearning. Its a reason why many have played for many years, its because they hope this is the day. Soon everything is in a day and the game is over.
Do you think it will take me 2 min to solo earl or 3 min in the next update? My Holy fire is B5025 and melts him in 57 seconds in the live game! Im genuinly excited to see the chages take effect.
When shotguns lose their ability to stack vampire will that also affect their effectiveness to cripple? If I understand correctly that is also from multiple pellets hitting.
So vampire explosive weapons won't proc twice from the explosive splash damage? Or is it just for how it stacked for specific weapons in specific use cases (shotguns and multi-shot cremator in VATS)? Either way, this looks like an overall reduction to self-healing and thus a reduction in survivability.
This also makes me realize that this could affect Vampire laser weapons with the beam splitter mod in VATS. Those are functionally similar to shotguns with that mod.
And then there's Quad. Who wants to stand around reloading and loosing dps? The point of quad is to shoot more and reload less, keeping the pressure going. Ammo efficiency. And it will be an absolute nightmare on weapons like the pump action shotgun, lever-action rifle, and revolvers.
Is the weak spot change for Free Aim only or do VATs headshots do more damage too?
for all
that 4x damage will dominate that I wouldn't care about quad, just hope it works with vats, if not, it's a mess.
The DOT indicator on the health bar is SO welcome! I might switch back to minigun tho haha
Much cool stuff, very odd they are not boosting all the weaker weapons though.
They actually weakened the shotgun. Vampires are now almost unusable because the HP restored is too little and the speed is too slow. Now it only restores a fixed 1% of HP per second, and enemies can easily tear you apart.
On PTS, the explosion damage of the Gaussian shotgun has been weakened and can only cause 1~3 damage.
With the change to vampire I’m curious if it will affect chainsaw… Will it still heal continuously while using or will I need to keep restarting it to get the heals? Wouldn’t surprise me if it ends up being the latter even if as an accidental bug, damn thing is already bugged and constantly having to restart attacks for hits to register is annoying
They should add a perk that lets you Vats your team memebers so the medic's weapons and healing flames will be worth more to use.
Thanks again for doing all this leg work and letting us all know what's to come man 🙏
Also as a vats user, I have to say I am happy to hear about the ADS balancing. I know there are many players out there who do not enjoy or ever use vats (and that's totally okay. Your wasteland, your playstyle). From what I gather, we should all be doing around the same damage to bosses now. Or at least the damage will be a bit closer together and not a 12x in favor of vats.
I like most of these changes, but I do wonder if non-automatic rifles are getting any support, currently commando builds seem to be typically better and while low damage, high fire rate weapons like the minigun being better is a good thing. What about the hunting rifle and black power rifle?
I'm really hoping we get the anti-material rifle as a season weapon to fill the void that currently exists in this weapon class.
Additionally, single fire pistols probably deserve some attention too.
does this mean we are getting energy weapons like laser rifles, plasma minigun etc to have the explosive effect again like back then with legacy weapons?
What did they f*ck up mow?
3:16 - I swear, are we going to see legacy explosive weapons make a return?!
That’s wild if they do, I had around 30 legacies when they nerfed them…if they did that just to bring them back I’m gonna be annoyed lol
Ripped out of our hands by crybabies who don’t understand or wont put the time into it to understand what it takes.Why take away something I earned.
i like the idea of the medics weapons but i would like to see some kind of perk card (opposite of friendly fire) that will allow you to heal
i love vampire weapons and friendly fire perk so i would like a bit of both worlds at the same time which is why im currently running around with a vampire flaming auto axe.
I love to see this game still get so much love.
does the “lower damage weapons are doing more weak spot damage” change affect all weapons, or just heavy weapons?
The cremator only shoots one shot in vats. I wouldn't think this is intended.. if it is what's the point of multi canister
Same as every weapon. Shotguns in vats show 1 shot too
@@Pinda220 boo boo this is unacceptable
So the weak spot on the Minigun does that apply to vats as well or only outside of vats
Sounds positive overall. Even as someone who flips between vampires shotgun and stealth commando builds.
Thanks for the info, id love to know if the Encryptid event has been fixed or not? Does the Imposter Sheepsquatch still ignore 100% armor when it attacks or whatever?
Did they reverse combat change? I just get to pts and check that handmade in vats hit mutants in head with exactly same damage as live version of the game
I wonder if Anti-Armor is going to be a top 3 or at least a strong competitor for fighting bosses with the Damage Mitigation being removed from bosses.
Will Medics work on other player's that aren't on your team but are eventmates too? It could lead to a few player's making everyone immortal.
Still I'm so happy to see that even if it's just in the PTS they're allowing us to craft Legendary Gear *_the way we want to have it_* it'll take some time but we won't have to depend on RNG for the "God Rolls" and instead *make them the God Rolls*
It does seem like there's a lot more good changes compared to a couple bad changes.
Turtle, Can the Holy Fire and Elders Mark guns be re-rolled or have legendary mods added to them in the PTS?
Mr. Turtle, does the medic effect also heal you? Wondering if it works on yourself with a cremator or other explosive weapon.
I really want to see some love given to the underwhelming legendary effects. Glad to see the rebalancing medic for example..
Ok i get your saying vats crits will not be good on bosses anymore, but do you still do tons of damage to headshots on normal enemies with normal vats shot and critical vats head shot? Like does it still bypass damage mitigation if you shoot the enemies in head with normal and vats headshots or has that been nerfed as well?
Would be interesting to know if Cold Shoulder got hit with the quad nerf or not. Maybe is has a bit of a different effect? Or will it also get nerfed alongside all quad weapons?
Brw i dont understand if it affects all vats or only critical, aiming by hand and in vats in same weak spot will result in different dmg?
Love the improvements! Hopefully this will reduce the amount of bullet sponge complaints from vocal players who have bad builds
Hello Turtle! ^,.,^
Did they also fixed the wood and Nooding Donkey collector not being able to be placed at the same time?
I don't know, no access to atom shop and season items on pts
@@AngryTurtle Ah damn 😭
Well while i have you here, I also have just a second quick question for ya.
How did your character get yeeted out of existence?
Ever since i heard you say that i started getting scared about bethesda not fixing the bug in time and loosing my character when the update goes live 😅
When does this update go live? Is this the same update that will add the new legendary crafting changes?
Overall, i love it. Just 2 problems i have. 1, explosive on energy weapons. Legacies were a plague. But the effect doing nothing for now makes me think 1 of 3 things will happen. 1, it won't change. You can put explosive on an energy weapon, it just won't do anything, like when you switch crusader pistol to energy. 2, they'll remove the ability to even put it on them. 3, they'll actually rework it so it works and isn't absolutely busted. With the changes to railway rifles, i don't think they're interested in returning game destroying weapons.
And i just don't like the vampire change. It's cool being able to use shotguns to mass heal. But if they go forward with this, i guess I'll just change my pepper shaker from vampire ffr to anti armor explosive ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ hell, with born survivor and healing factor i barely use my pepper shaker to heal anymore anyway. And with the ghoul character it'll probably be even less needed.
I hope to see more legendary prefix reworks. Nocturnal, juggernauts, berserkers, all still pretty useless. And the enemy specific effects too.
What paint you have on the plasmacaster?
Well the update is live, and it doesn't seem like this is the case in regards to weakpoint damage. At least, the damage with my automatic rifles on headshots still seems about the same as before the patch.
Hey Angry Turtle so what happens to Legendary cores now? are they still being used for legendaries?
Will two shot be more viable when damage resistance has changed. It used to be powerful but lost some of its glory during the way.
How are the legendary mods learned are they all in one pool or are they split per weapon
So then what happens to our current legendary cores and legendary modules?
I played as a comando for a long time and still think that this is a good direction. Tired if being forced into one build. Great direction.
Now untie exp gain from INT or give us idiot savant so non bloodied builds can keep up in exp
Hello Turtle, "how long have you been wandering in the wasteland?"
Wouldn't you like the game to be a little more difficult?...I don't know...in this game it is not necessary to eat, hydrate, or heal wounds or illnesses...we only do it to improve according to what attributes of our character, but it is not mandatory. this is not real....
They tell me that back in the day, a long time ago, if you didn't eat and drink you could die... is that true?
You do very good work...
Greetings Bro
So if it affects the regular mini gun will it affect the gaus mini gun too since that weapon needs a boost? Can you please test turtle?
Well the only thing I like to make changes, they are all good but the mag cap for some of the guns like the handmade rifle and the assault rifle should have some mag to 30 or so and the drum to be a bit more like say 50 or 60 worth.
As a holy fire main, I’m gonna melt everything even faster now, monster hunter taught me to aim for weak spots
It's cool you now finaly can have a healer in your party. Does it work during events when everybody is it the same team though?
Looks like they’re trying to buff up non-vats users. I like it, let’s get some more play styles going.
Named Weapons- can we choose legendary effects or Roll them?
This is not a bad thing. Though I'm a vats build myself, people have been complaining about our build for a long time.
What about Explosive on Vampire weapons? Did they change it to where it’s only the projectile that heals, or will the splash damage from the explosion still provide healing?
Explosions and multiple warheads can no longer interact with vampires. If the content of pts is implemented into the official game, it can be concluded that the vampire is dead.
@@黄国轮 yeah, that’s what it was sounding like to me too
@@KetoFitChef 🥲
Has the legendary crafting changed for armor as well or just weps?
did you tested the 10mm pistol with automatic receiver?
How do the boss changes anti armor and executioner ? Is Aa even better then before ?